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Channel comments with friendofutube2009
« on: February 18, 2010, 07:09:18 AM »
friendofutube2009 (2 hours ago)

"If that were the case the neuter gender would not have been used in the "one". That makes it mean of one essence."

The Greek word used for ONE is HEN or EN which is exactly the SAME both in John 17:21 (ONE with disciples) and John 10:30 (ONE with God). Neuter gender or not, the issue is if Jesus and God are ONE (HEN) in essence, then Jesus, God, 12 disciples are ONE (HEN) in essence too in John 17:21. How many gods then FORTEE-NITY!


 friendofutube2009  (2 hours ago)

If Jesus is God or begotten Son of God or part of the Triune God,

(1) WHY did he wait for 30 years to start preaching when the world around him was awash with sin? Did he not come to pay for the scourge of the original sin? Why tarry?

(2) WHY are his two genealogies (Matthew 1:1 & Luke 3:23) do NOT mention God as his father but instead Joseph, the Carpenter?

(3) WHY did Jesus nor his brother James NOT preach the Trinity? Why is the ONLY biblical reference to the Trinity (1 John 5:7) NOT FOUND in the most ancient manuscript?

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Re: Channel comments with friendofutube2009
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 07:12:03 AM »
 PeteWaldo (30 minutes ago)

The Greek Word 1520 heis {hice} is used.
John 17:21 That they all may be one; AS thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

By AS He means like Jesus is in the Father and the Father in Jesus.
...for your goodness [is] AS a morning cloud...
Does that mean goodness IS A morning cloud?
Most importantly, if Jesus simply meant one in purpose as was suggested earlier, the Pharisees would have agreed they were one in purpose with God too.
So why did the Pharisees want to stone Jesus for blasphemy again?
John 10:30 I and [my] Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.


PeteWaldo (25 minutes ago)

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Jesus spoke the words above after He was crucified and resurrected. If Jesus isn't God how could He have ALL POWER IN HEAVEN AND EARTH?


PeteWaldo (20 minutes ago)

"1) WHY did he wait for 30 years to start preaching when the world around him was awash with sin? Did he not come to pay for the scourge of the original sin? Why tarry?"

What a foolish question. You act as though there was no solution to sin before Jesus Christ, but God's people had already been following Him for 1,500 years before Jesus Christ was made manifest.
And throughout God's revelation to mankind atonement for sin has always come through the shed blood of sacrifice. From when He had His chosen people build their first temple 3,000 years ago.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=54.0


PeteWaldo (18 minutes ago)

Or are you asking why didn't Jesus start preaching from the cradle, since Mohammed lifted an Egyptian apocryphal fable that suggested Jesus spoke while He was still in the cradle, and so Mohammed put his own twisted version of the fable in his Quran?
Thank you for offering me an opportunity to introduce folks to the forum. What do Jesus speaking in the cradle and clay birds have in common?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=893.0


PeteWaldo (11 minutes ago)

"(2) WHY are his two genealogies (Matthew 1:1 & Luke 3:23) do NOT mention God as his father but instead Joseph, the Carpenter?"

You seem as literacy challenged as your false prophet. Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (AS WAS SUPPOSED) the son of Joseph, which was [the son] of Heli,

For those ignorant to the truth, and to unregenerate persons who knew the truth but didn't believe it (such as yourself) it was SUPPOSED that Jesus was Joseph's son, because Joseph acted in the role of Jesus' surrogate father.
There are 234 verses in the Word of God that declare God the Father, and many or even most of them spoken by Jesus of His Father. You can review them at this link.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=316.0
But even Mohammed taught that God impregnated the virgin Mary with Jesus.


PeteWaldo (4 minutes ago)

"(3) WHY did Jesus nor his brother James NOT preach the Trinity? Why is the ONLY biblical reference to the Trinity (1 John 5:7) NOT FOUND in the most ancient manuscript?"

Your premise is false. Where do you guys get this stuff? From your lying Greek sophist styled deceiving entertainers like Ahmed Deedat? (see featured video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc
Hundreds of verses mention that Jesus is the Son of God.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=56.0
Hundreds more mention that God is Jesus Father
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=316.0
And hundreds more mention the Spirit of God and the Holy Ghost.


PeteWaldo (4 minutes ago)

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:

Why don't you try reading the Gospel some time? Many unregnerate followers of the false prophet Mohammed have been saved by reading just a few verses.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm


PeteWaldo  (2 minutes ago)

Now let me ask you something friendofutube2009. I can understand it of a bunch of 7th century desert dwelling illiterates, but how is it that 21st century, now literate men, still bow to the sole surviving pagan rock god idol in the Ka'aba, 5 times a day? Let alone travel to it so they can march around and around it, and even rub on it and kiss it, as Mohammed did?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UnrVCQFmh0

Let alone pray the prayers of the heathen to it?
Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.


 PeteWaldo  (11 seconds ago)

friendofutube2009 you asked why I chat with np here. It is because we EXCHANGE channel comments on EACH OTHERS channels. I posted my last comment on your channel, and find it is "pending approval". You are apparently one of those Mohammedan censoring cowards, who feels at liberty to post? on? others channels, while censoring the truth from his own channel. Are you going to post my question to you?
http://www.youtube.com/user/friendofutube2009