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The Council of Nicea Changed the Scriptures?
« on: December 18, 2013, 10:09:06 AM »
Followers of Muhammad, whose capacity for critical thought would seem to have been removed, parrot famous Islamic dissimulators, that suggest that somehow the scriptures were rewritten at the Council of Nicea, which took place in 325 AD. Displaying not only an ignorance to the history of scripture, but an even more abject ignorance as to the whole purpose of that council (second post).

Yet we have 5300 partial or complete copies of the New Testament that date to before 300AD - before the Council of Nicea - that were translated into every popular language and were being real all over the known world, through which hundreds of verses reveal:
God as the Father of Jesus:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/god_the_father.htm
His Son:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/jesus_the_son_of_god.htm
And the Holy Spirit.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/spirit_of_god.htm

So to suggest the scriptures were corrupted at Nicea, is to advance the preposterous notion, that men collected up all those copies, in all those languages, that were distributed all over the known world, and uniformly changed or added those hundreds of verses, in all of those manuscript copies, in every popular language that was known to man, were distributed throughout the whole known world! Indeed somehow changed the whole subject of the Gospel, which is the crucifixion, death and resurrection of the Lamb of God, who saves all from sin who have faith in His shed blood!
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

Yet in spite of the nature of such a foolish, transparent and conspicuous lie, Islam's dissimulators and parrots continue to propagate it.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/global_war_against_truth.htm#taqiyyah

And for what reason? Because they must reject all of the prophets and witnesses of YHWH - as revealed in His 1600 year record, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years - to follow THE false prophet Muhammad alone.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

And by Muhammad's 7th century, those same 5300 partial or complete manuscripts we have from prior to 300 AD (and that's just the ones that have been recovered thus far), while it had continued to be translated into every popular language, copied tens of thousands of times, and had been read all over the known world for centuries by the time Muhammad told Jews and Christians to go by what is revealed therein! So while they are making their empty and false accusations against the scriptures, they are painting their own "messenger" out to have been a fool, for having encouraged Jews and Christians to go by what is in our scriptures!
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

In spite of choosing to believe foolish, transparent and conspicuous lie, there is not a shred of historical or archaeological evidence that supports Muhammadanism, but rather the evidence suggests that Mecca ever existed before the fourth century, even according to Muslim Eastern History teachers.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2859.0

Let alone that a leading expert on Arabic and the Quran informs us that about 1/5 of the verses in the most ancient Quran manuscript, simply do not make any sense.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2576.0

Let alone that the Arabic language did not even exist in a written form until around 300 AD, and scant evidence of the language even existing in spoken form before that.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2561.0
Yet in spite of that fact they continue to insist on referring to the God of the Christians and Jews, YHWH (said Yahweh), by the name of the Arabian pagan's (most likely) moon god "Allah".
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2265.0

Let alone the internal evidence itself since Muhammad realized he made such a goofed up and self-contradicting mess of his record of "revelation" that he had to institute a doctrine of abrogation.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/abrogation_quran.htm

For those so sorely deluded by the taqiyyah and dissimulation of Islam's pitifully transparent liars, we recommend you do some independent investigation regarding the textual integrity of scripture, so you won't be so easily fooled in the future.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/global_war_against_truth.htm#taqiyyah

Why not try being honest with yourself, while actually investigating the subject, rather than depend on the empty words of others?!
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/#bible_corruption

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/bible_manuscript_errors_.htm

For those followers of Muhammad that have chosen self-imposed abject ignorance, over information regarding this subject, there is a mountain of information available on the Internet, as well as on YouTube videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIAkxB-EH5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8cY3T-SCTk

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Re: The Council of Nicea Changed the Scriptures?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 10:26:21 AM »
http://www.leestrobel.com/videoserver/video.php?clip=strobelT1092

From resisting: "Above is a lecture covering the events that ACTUALLY led to the Nicean Council and why the divinity of Jesus had never been under question in orthodox Christian beliefs."

Please comment on that video on the forum topic dedicated to it at the following link.

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2110.0

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Re: The Council of Nicea Changed the Scriptures?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 10:30:38 AM »
http://www.leestrobel.com/videoserver/video.php?clip=strobelT1036

Resisting wrote: "Above is an interview with Dr. Straus who explains the revisionist history used to undermine the Canonical Gospels and Jesus' claim of Deity."

Please comment on this video on the dedicated thread here:

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2107.0

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Re: The Council of Nicea Changed the Scriptures?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 11:30:38 AM »
Yet time after time - even in the same day - the history and scripture ignorant, continue to parrot the tripe they received from Islam's dissimulators that duped them.

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1790.msg15934#msg15934
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1140.msg15949#msg15949
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3344.msg15950#msg15950
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1790.msg15952#msg15952

2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.