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« on: August 19, 2013, 10:46:58 AM »
Islamophobia? Who would be afraid of an anti-religion, that follows Muhammad alone through his STAND-ALONE 23 year 7th century record, that proclaims the EXACT OPPOSITE of the  WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel? This while engaging in thinly veneered Arabian pagan moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals making it obvious that Islam is NOT an option as a path to the one true God of the Bible, as He revealed Himself through ALL of the prophets and witnesses in His 1600 year record of revelation to mankind, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years. Rather Islam is a path to the EXACT OPPOSITE. While there is good reason to fear God, there is no reason whatsoever tob be afraid of a false "religion"?

Muslimophobia on the other hand, regarding those striving to be like Muhammad, through the record of his life and false religion? Why not ask the families of the victims, of the tens of thousands of deadly Islam inspired Muslim terror attacks around the world just since 9-11, if there is reason to be Muslimophobic?
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=51.0
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Edit addition on 1-15-19 from a webpage best read on that page that contains lots of links):
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamophobia_or_christian_love.htm

"ISLAMOPHOBIA" OR CHRISTIAN LOVE?

"The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." ~ George Orwell

"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." ~ Aristotle

Besides those who live in areas where Muslims are currently slaughtering innocent non-Muslims, who has more reason to be afraid of Islam, than Muslims themselves? They know better than anybody that if they exercise our God-given rights to freedom, liberty and self-determination, and choose to leave Islam, they may loose their inheritance, family, friends, community, job, and in some Islamic slave states even be subject to the death penalty by State statute for "apostasy". Offspring may even be murdered by their own father or mother in an Islamic "honor killing".
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/death_penalty_apostasy.htm

"Muslims are the first victims of Islam, to liberate them from this religion is the best service that one can render them..." ~ Ernest Renan (1823-1892)

So who has reason to be more "Islamophobic" than Muslims, who are enslaved into performance, before their Muslim masters?

AP - December 06, 2006 MOGADISHU, Somalia - "Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day will be beheaded, an Islamic courts official said Wednesday, adding the edict will be implemented in three days."



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The suffix "phobia" suggests a fear that is "unrealistic" or ".....typically disproportional to the actual danger posed, often being recognized as irrational.....", so it is obviously oxymoronic to apply that suffix to the term "Islam", which identifies a violent, murderous, imperialistic, political machine, whose adherents are commanded by their leader to conquer the world and subjugate all people to Muhammad's followers. Thus it should be painfully obvious to a rational person that the term "Islamophobia" is an invention of the enemy of all mankind and those who parrot the term are useful dupes of the enemy. Not so dissimilar to origin and use of the word "Palestine".

Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle.....

For Muhammad's orthodox followers those words are just as relevant today as they were 1400 years ago. Indeed for a Muslim to suggest fighting is not prescribed is "hypocritical", according to Islamic scholars in the Middle East cradle of the religion, that get Islam. Of course it would pure blasphemy against Jesus Christ to testify as that verse commands, and many Christians are martyred by Muslims for refusing to do so when that, or denial of Jesus Christ, is demanded of them. While Muslims are unable to see it, Islam's actual ultimate goal is to subjugate everyone in the world to denying the Son of God and rejecting his crucifixion and thus His shed blood - the whole subject of the Gospel.

Surah 2.216 fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

Quran Surah 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

No surprise then that Islamic slave States subject their own citizens to the death penalty for speaking freely or choosing to leave Islam. This Islamic State-sponsored court-sentenced murder is practiced by fundamental, non-"hypocrite" followers of Muhammad and leaders of Islamic nationstates in the cradle of Muhammad's anti-religion, that are at or near achieving the "perfection" of "Sharia" - that get Islam.

Quran Surah 5:33 The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.

Indeed Muhammad prohibits his followers from even making friends with Jews and Christians or they become of us:

Surah 5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust.

It reads the same, or even worse, in all translations. Very serious business indeed for: "He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them." as Pickthall and many others put it, since Muslims are taught that to confess that Jesus is the Son of God or even to pray in Jesus' name, constitutes Muhammad's ONLY UNFORGIVABLE SIN of "shirk". Muslims may pretend friendship for purposes of daw'ah, even to the point of Muslim men marrying Christian women, for purposes of the eventual conversion of the wife and her community. However the inverse, of a Muslim woman marrying a Christian man, could put the woman in danger of loosing her life through an "honor killing".

It would seem that Muslims are compelled to believe that each and every Christian throughout the last nearly 2,000 years, has lived and died in a state of committing Muhammad's only unforgivable sin of "shirk".

https://youtu.be/dl6IAYa7Wuo

However our beliefs of course, are based on the hundreds of New Testament verses that proclaim the Father and His Son, which goes to the very "doctrine of Christ":

2John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Since Islam is a violent, murderous, imperialistic anti-religion that directly and specifically opposes the Gospel of Jesus Christ, how irrational, disproportional or even inappropriate would a response of fear be, for the Christian mother of five who has been sentenced to death in Pakistan, for a false accusation of blasphemy brought against her by accusers that exposed themselves as being anti-Christian Muslim bigots? Pakistan is a primary driving force among the antichrist Islamic States of the Organisation of Islamic [unilateral] Cooperation who Secretary of State Hillary Clinton prostituted the U.S. out to, by supporting anti-blasphemy laws toward global speech control, and against her oath of office to support and defend the Constitution.

"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." ~ George Washington

John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

The end of politically correct western societies?

https://youtu.be/6-3X5hIFXYU

"Join the Islamophobes through history.
Islamophobe means you are fighting against tolerance for the intolerable and for protection of liberties and human rights against the very enemy of humanness, rights and freedom. No creed have a greater record of violence and barbarity than the followers of Islam, and they have never transformed or improved over the centuries."

From Atlas Shrugs: "Muslims Slaughter 75 in Deadly Attack on Historic Church in Pakistan"
"Relentless. Muslims murdering, persecuting, torturing Christians in Muslim countries, and the world says nothing. The same silence preceded the Nazi genocide of twelve million people.
Instead, the world advances the savages' narrative that opposition to jihad and sharia is "islamophobia." Vilified are the few who dare to speak out against this vicious anti-human system of oppression. And their dissemblers in the media and proxies in the West like CAIR, ICNA, ISNA, MSA, Aslan Media, etc., are lauded and loved. "

"Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions." ~ G. K. Chesterton


Would any of the 75 innocent men, women and children that were targeted and killed or the 141 that were injured, by Islamic suicide bombers in that historic church in Pakistan, have been harboring an irrational or disproportional fear of Islam, before they went to church that morning? How about the non-Muslim mall shoppers targeted in the Kenya mall siege? Would any of the 2 million killed, displaced and enslaved by Muhammad's followers in the Sudan alone, be harboring an irrational or disproportional fear of Islam? I'll embellish the following quotes between parentheses:

From Christianity Today: "Once again, women are the targets. In mid-March, (Muslim) rebels assaulted three women gathering firewood and cut off their ears, lips, and breasts." 
"Starting in 2003, Janjaweed (Muslim) Arabs, a Sudan-backed (Muslim) militia, have driven 2 million villagers from their homes in ethnic-cleansing attacks designed to suppress local rebels."

"Eyewitness accounts detailing the (Muslim) militia attacks are horrifying. "They killed my 3-year-old son right in front of my eyes," one father from West Darfur said. Since last fall, women have reported more than 500 rapes. Three women said five (Muslim) militiamen beat and raped them last August. The women said, "After they abused us, they told us that now we would have Arab babies. And, if they would find any [more] women, they would rape them again to change the color of their children.""

Just as Muhammad recommended his followers do: 
Bukhari B93 #506 Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interrupt us. The Prophet said, "It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection." Qaza'a said, "I heard Abu Sa'id saying that the Prophet said, 'No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it."

How about the Muslims in this Somalian town - an irrational or disproportional fear of Islam?
AP - December 06, 2006 MOGADISHU, Somalia - "Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day will be beheaded, an Islamic courts official said Wednesday, adding the edict will be implemented in three days."

Would any of the men, women and children that have been murdered in over 21,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11, or their survivors, have been harboring irrational or disproportional fear of Islam prior to the attacks? Would any of the 3,000 killed in the World Trade Center Islamic terror attack on 9-11, have been harboring an irrational or disproportional fear of Islam, when they headed out to work that morning?



Would fear of Islam be an irrational or disproportional emotion for the families of most of the 100,000 to 180,000 Christians that are martyred (let alone maimed) by Muhammad's followers all around the world every year?

CNS reports: "Sunni Muslim terrorists committed "about 70 percent" of the 12,533 terrorist murders in the world last year, according to a report by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC)."



The effort to silence voices of truth and reason by hurling epithets like "Islamophobe" remains the domain of those who, as a result of a limited capacity for critical thought, have been duped into believing falsehood that they are then unable to defend.

Liars for Satan himself preposterously accuse "Islamophobia" in order to run and hide from the truth, even while churches burn and Christians are slaughtered as the last of the non-Muslim remnant is wiped out, in the formerly Christian lands of the Middle East as well as in much of the rest of the world.



It isn't difficult to see that use of the term "Islamophobia" is more of a testament to the abject ignorance or mental incapacity of non-Muslims who use it. While spurious terms like "islamophobia" and claims of "insulting our prophet" have been effective contrivances employed by Muhammad's followers to peddle false victimhood, and by Islam's ignorant - or worse - apologist dhimmis, in transparent efforts to end conversations in which undeniable truth has become increasingly apparent.

Even though Muhammad's anti-religion crosses all national boundaries and includes all races, no shortage of intellectually challenged liars even parrot preposterously false charges of "racism", against those that simply point out the truth about Islam. It is a shame that so many can't understand that a love of truth, is so much more of a blessing, than being reduced to hurling epithets as a result of being unable to defend lies. Even worse, no shortage of the defense of Islam by non-Muslims is in fact motivated by the continuing and increasing, 2500 years of black-hearted hatred and persecution of Jews.

"It was politically incorrect to say we need to stamp out Nazism in 1933 and if you critique Islam you are labeled an "Islamaphobe." If you criticized Nazism by definition you were a Naziphobe. Winston Churchill was a minority voice calling out the warning that world would not heed. The Naziphobes were right and were hated in their time, so again does history repeat and us small band of "Islamaphobes" sound the alarm to warn another great darkness that will befall us if we do not awaken from our deep stupor." ~ Keith Davies
 
Hatred of Muhammad's blasphemy is an expression of love for his followers (URL)

The simple fact of the matter is that it is not possible for a faithful Christian or Jew to recognize Muhammad as other than a false prophet and his stand-alone 23 year 7th century record as other than a lie, in the light of the 1600 year record of YHWH to mankind as revealed through all of His prophets and witnesses, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years. Pointing that fact out to Muhammad's followers, far from being an expression of Islamophobia or hatred of them, is an expression of our love for them. Indeed many Christians around the world are willing to, and in fact do, sacrifice their own lives by preaching Christ crucified to Muhammad's sorely deluded followers.

1Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

Here's an example of some real hate speech.

As made painfully obvious from the first Quran Surah quoted on the home page, Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel, which necessarily renders Muhammadan Islam to be patently false from a Christian perspective - period. Let alone Muhammad's blasphemy against the Son of God, and the historical origins of Islamic rituals, coupled with the absence of a history of Mecca prior to the 4th century AD, that demonstrates 4500 years of pre-Muhammad Islamic so-called "tradition" to be a work of scripture-contrary pure fiction.

There is also, however sadly, certainly no shortage of supersessionist self-proclaimed Christians involved in the ecumenical movement, including the Roman Church, with some even being duped into religious pluralism, however this would all seem to be fulfillment of yet more prophesy during the "falling away" or apostasy that seems a perfect fit for the times in which we may well find ourselves.

If a person harbored hatred for Muhammad's followers, the best way to advance their hatred would simply be to ignore them so they could continue down the path that the scriptures would seem to indicate they are on, unimpeded.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Indeed it is an expression of our Christian love to point the truth out to our Muslim could-become-brethren in Christ Jesus, though no shortage of false accusations of hatred are leveled against those of us who have been called, to help those poor folks overcome the strong delusion that they suffer.

2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will  live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

This is frequently compounded by their transparent efforts to shift the subject of Christian hatred for Muhammad's blasphemy against Jesus Christ, to instead falsely accuse us of hating Muslim persons, when the exact opposite is in fact what motivates us.

John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

As for Jews, the New Testament suggests that God may have given some of them blindness to the Gospel, in this new covenant era, perhaps so they can't sin against it. I'll let Jews express their own opinion regarding Muhammad's prophethood, through Islam's own books, in what follows. Ever since Muhammad's day Jews have been slaughtered by Muhammad's followers, for rejecting Muhammad as a prophet, because they follow our one great God YHWH through our scriptures:

Ishaq:461 "After the siege exhausted and terrorized them, the Jews felt certain that the Apostle would not leave them until he had exterminated them. So they decided to talk to Ka'b Asad. He said, 'People of the Jews, you see what has befallen you. I shall propose three alternatives. Take whichever one you please.' He said, 'Swear allegiance to this man and accept him; for, by Allah, it has become clear to you that he is a prophet sent from Allah. It is he that you used to find mentioned in your scripture book. Then you will be secure in your lives, your property, your children, and your wives.'"

Mohammed having revealed himself as a terrorist. The Jews responded:

Ishaq:462/Tabari VIII:30 "The Jews said, 'We will never abandon the Torah or exchange it for the Qur'an.' Asad said, 'Since you reject this proposal of mine, then kill your children and your wives and go out to Muhammad and his Companions as men who brandish swords, leaving behind no impediments to worry you. If you die, you shall have left nothing behind; if you win you shall find other women and children.' The Jews replied, 'Why would we kill these poor ones? What would be the good of living after them?'"

Even though they knew their very lives were at stake, Yahweh's faithful people well understood that abandoning the Torah to follow Mohammed in this life, would result in a death sentence in the hereafter.

Bukhari:V5B59N448 "They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sa'd to give the verdict. Sad said, 'I give my judgment that their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'"

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

Abu Dawud 38:4390 Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi: I was among the captives of Banu Qurayza. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

So all those innocent young farm boys - and their dads and grandpas - were beheaded, as their little brothers, sisters, mothers and grandmothers looked on. Unfortunately that wasn't the end of it for the women:

Bukhari:V5 B34 #432 Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.

Qur'an 33:26 "Allah took down the People of the Scripture Book. He cast terror into their hearts. Some you slew, and some you made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, giving you a land which you had not traversed before. And Allah has power over all things."

How irrational, disproportionate or even inappropriate would a response of fear have been, for the men, women and children of the three Medina based Jewish tribes that Muhammad attacked, murdered and looted? Or any of the rest of the victims of the first Islamic Jihad conquest, of nearly the whole known world, all the way up to France and Austria.

".... according to one unidentified Arab, 'That army went through all places like a desolating storm.' sacking and capturing the city of Bordeaux, and then defeating the army of Duke Odo of Aquitaine at the Battle of the River Garonne - where the western chroniclers state, 'God alone knows the number of the slain'”[3] and Odo fled to Charles Martel, seeking help." 

As far as phobias go, God's people know we have no need to fear anything, as we understand that our temporal life in this world is as a little steam escaping from a teapot compared to the earth's atmosphere.

James 4:14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

Additionally, the term "Islamophobia" is perhaps a bit of a misnomer, since the record makes it clear there is no reason for anybody to fear the religion of Islam or Muhammad's "Allah", however, unfortunately, the same can't be said for Muhammad's true followers. Perhaps "true-followers-of-Muhammad-phobic", or "non-hypocrite-Muslim-phobic", would be better ways to characterize it, if the fear had actually been irrational or disproportionate. While unregenerate pagans were fearful of the deities of other pagan religions, because of the mystique created through their unfamiliarity, there is no reason in this information age for anyone to be fearful of a deity that creates 4,500 years of pre-Muhammad history from thin air, based in a town that did not exist before the 4th century AD, that would inspire the kind of behavior that it does in Muhammad's true followers, that Muhammad did. There is no reason to fear a religion of flying donkey-mules. Indeed it is those who follow an anti-religion so perfectly opposite to that revealed through the 1600 year record of the one great God YHWH of the Jews and Christians, that are the ones that should be phobic - indeed in absolute sheer terror.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Whether Jesus returns within the hour, or a follower of Muhammad drops dead this very hour, and stands in judgment before the very Son of God they blaspheme.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

While Christians never have anything to fear, there is however very good reason for the average guy on the street to fear Muhammad's true followers, because of what Muhammad commands his followers to do, and their willingness to carry out his instructions over the last 1400 years. With over 21,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world today, just since 9-11, as reported by the folks at TheReligionOfPeace.com



Tens of thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

"Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari" - Maktba Dar-us-Salam's page 580
Chapter 2. The best among the people is that believer who strives his utmost in Allah's Cause with both his life and property.
footnotes:
[1] "Al-Jihad (the holy fighting) in Allah's Cause (with full force of number and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior, [His Word being La ilaha ill-Allah (which means: none has the right to be worshipped but Allah] and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; there honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfill this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.
[2] Of course, nobody can offer Salat (prayer) and observe Saum (fast) incessantly, and since the Muslim fighter is rewarded as if he was doing such good impossible deeds, no possible deed equals Jihad in reward.

Since the term "Islamophobia" is an oxymoron, if today you would fear speaking freely about anything at all for fear of the intellectually incapacitated hurling ridiculous epithets at you - and yet you don't do anything about it - what kind of future are you consigning your heirs to? Is it reasonable to expect the direction of things to automatically reverse course?

The world is setting up, for what could be the greatest tragedy to hit mankind in the history of the world, if Jesus were to return today. Far from being an act of hatred, it is an act of Christian love, compassion, and indeed our Christian duty, to warn Muhammad's followers about impending judgment, by preaching Christ crucified.

Bukhari B34 #425: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts.

1Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Quran Surah 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

And just because a person is "Islamophobic", doesn't mean Muhammad's followers aren't commanded to conquer, subdue, and subjugate him!

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Re: Islamophobia
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2014, 09:36:43 AM »
Famous "Islamophobes" (a conspicuous oxymoron):

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/islamophobes/

"Join the Islamophobes through history.
Islamophobe means you are fighting against tolerance for the intolerable and for protection of liberties and human rights against the very enemy of humanness, rights and freedom. No creed have a greater record of violence and barbarity than the followers of Islam, and they have never transformed or improved over the centuries.
Today there is no wisdom in governance anywhere in the West. Even in 50 BC leaders had more common sense than we see today. Just read below their wisdom and foresight."

"If Muslim people do not change their mind in spite of the changes of social conditions, and if we supplement Islamic courtesy and law without explaining and advertising real Islamic beliefs at the same time, then it is impossible to save the minds of the people." ~ Ma Fuxiang

"The command to propoagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective...... by fraud, or by force. ~ President John Quincy Adams

During the thousand years that included the careers of the Frankish soldier and the Polish king, the Christians of Asia and Africa proved unable to wage successful war with the Moslem conquerors; and in consequence Christianity practically vanished from the two continents; and today nobody can find in them any “social values” whatever, in the sense in which we use the words, so far as the sphere of Mohammedan influence. There are such “social values” today in Europe, America, and Australia only because during those thousand years the Christians of Europe possessed the warlike power to do what the Christians of Asia and Africa had failed to do – that is, to beat back the Moslem invader. – Theodore “Teddy” Roosevelt
26th President of the United States

   The Roman statesman must have foreseen the coming of Islam:
The wisdom from 50 BC: A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. – Marcus Tullius Cicero
Roman philosopher, statesman, lawyer

   The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within. – Will Durant
American writer, historian, and philosopher. He is best known for The Story of Civilization.

   These future United States presidents questioned the ambassador as to why his (Islamic) government was so hostile to the new American republic even though America had done nothing to provoke any such animosity. Ambassador Adja answered them, as they reported to the Continental Congress, ‘that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise’. – Thomas Jefferson
To the Continental Congress about the brutal pirate attacks of the Muslim Ottoman Barbary (1801–1805 and 1815)

   How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, lovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. – Sir Winston Churchill, 1899.
British Conservative politician and statesman of the United Kingdom during the Second World War

   Nor can the Plundering of Infidels be in that sacred Book [the Quran] forbidden, since it is well known from it, that God has given the World, and all that it contains, to his faithful Mussulmen, who are to enjoy it of Right as fast as they conquer it. – Benjamin Franklin
United States founding father

   Over a billion people believe in Allah without truly knowing what Allah supposedly stands for or what he really demands of them. And the minority that do understand continue to be Moslems because they have redefined their morality and ethics to fit within the teachings of Islam, which are floridly lacking in morality. They therefore redefine what is good and evil in order to fit their lives into what is preached by Islam, instead of examining Islam to see if it fits within the good life. Backwards thinking, imposed by a backward religion. – Professor Bertrand Russell
British philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, and social critic

   Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain others in the practice of this religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him. – Joseph Ernest Renan
French expert of Middle East ancient languages and civilizations

   In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. – John Quincy Adams
6th president of the United States

   Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities – but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome. – Sir Winston Churchill
British Conservative politician and statesman of the United Kingdom

   Without demolishing religious schools (madrassahs) and minarets and without abandoning the beliefs and ideas of the medieval age, restriction in thoughts and pains in conscience will not end. Without understanding that unbelief is a kind of religion, and that conservative religious belief a kind of disbelief, and without showing tolerance to opposite ideas, one cannot succeed. Those who look for the truth will accomplish the mission. -- Mevlana Jalal ad-Din Rumi
Persian Sufi poet and philosopher. Sufi’s have been outlawed and persecuted for seven centuries in the Islamic world.

   The wisdom from 50 BC: For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. -– Marcus Tullius Cicero
Roman philosopher, statesman, lawyer

   Do not suppose the statements of the prophets to be true; they are all fabrications. Men lived comfortably till they came and spoiled life. The sacred books are only such a set of idle tales as any age could have and indeed did actually produce. They recite their sacred books, although the fact informs me that these are fiction from first to last. O Reason, thou (alone) speakest the truth. Then perish the fools who forged the religious traditions or interpreted them! – Al-Ma’arri
11th Century blind Arab philosopher, poet and writer. He labeled religions in general as “noxious weeds” and said that Islam does not have a monopoly on truth.

   A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. – Sir Winston Churchill
British Conservative politician and statesman of the United Kingdom

   Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached. God is not pleased by blood – and not acting reasonably is contrary to God’s nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats… To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death. – Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos
Conversation between the Emperor and a Persian scholar, 1391.

   Some, indeed, dream of an Islam in the future, rationalised and regenerate. All this has been tried already, and has miserably failed. The Koran has so encrusted the religion in a hard unyielding casement of ordinances and social laws, that if the shell be broken the life is gone. A rationalistic Islam would be Islam no longer. – Sir William Muir
Victorian orientalist scholar, Cambridge 1881

   The penalty for apostasy in Islamic law is death. Islam is conceived as a polity, not just as a religious community. It follows therefore that apostasy is treason. It is a withdrawal, a denial of allegiance as well as of religious belief and loyalty. Any sustained and principled opposition to the existing regime or order almost inevitably involves such a withdrawal. – Bernard Lewis
British-American historian, scholar in Oriental studies, and political commentator.

   The contrast between our own faith and Islam is most remarkable. There are in our Scriptures living germs of truth, which accord with civil and religious liberty, and will expand with advancing civilisation. In Islam it is just the reverse. The Koran has no such teaching as with us has abolished polygamy, slavery, and arbitrary divorce, and has elevated woman to her proper place. As a Reformer, Mahomet did advance his people to a certain point, but as a Prophet he left them fixed immovably at that point for all time to come. – Sir William Muir
Victorian orientalist scholar, Cambridge 1881

   He (Muhammad) poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. The essence of his doctrine was violence and lust: to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature.. – John Quincy Adams
6th president of the United States

   The tree (of Islam) is of artificial planting. Instead of containing within itself the germ of growth and adaptation to the various requirements of time and clime and circumstance, expanding with the genial sunshine and rain from heaven, it remains the same forced and stunted thing as when first planted some twelve centuries ago. – Sir William Muir
Victorian orientalist scholar, Cambridge 1881

   â€¦ On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this [witness of signs, and God's wonders, and divers miracles]. The point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure.In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants. What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning, Those who believed in him were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Muhammad forced others to become his followers by the violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on the part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimonies of the Old and New Testaments by making them into fabrications of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place any faith in his words believe foolishly. –St. Thomas Aquinas (1225 – 1274)
Contra Gentiles, Book One, Chapter 6, Paragraph 4.

"Qur'an....an accursed book..... so long as there is this book there will be no peace in the world ~ PM of Great Britain William Gladstone


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Re: Islamophobia
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2014, 10:58:15 AM »
I'm certainly no fan of Bill Maher and do not watch his show, and realize he suffers from a foul spirit and self-imposed abject ignorance, but it's always entertaining when a liberal is exposed to a blizzard of anti-freedom political correctness directed at them from their fellow liberals.
With this particular case of Bill Maher well characterizing:

"The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." ~ George Orwell

Here's the video in which Sam Harris, an atheist, does a good job of defining the argument, while Ben Affleck makes quite the comical spectacle of himself in defense of Islam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60

In other venues Sam Harris argues against Islam while arguing falsely against Judaism and Christianity with claims as ignorant as "there is no truly central message" in the Bible (though he doesn't do as reprobate a job as"young Turk" and not-so-former Muslim Cenk Uygur).

Of course Maher's fellow liberals have been silent, regarding all of the anti-Judeo-Christian bigotry, including Bill Maher's expressed ignorance through his ridicule and demonization of Christianity.

Here's one of the liberal rags that amusingly calls it Bill Maher's "defense of islamophobia"! The cognitively dysfunctional author amusingly goes on to do, exactly what Sam Harris described the problem is, when he opened with: "The crucial point of confusion is that we have been sold this meme of Islamophobia, where every criticism of the doctrine of Islam, gets conflated with bigotry toward Muslims as people."

The article is even titled and subtitled with a big fat lie of: "Maher's latest effort to demonize Muslims", but hey, as in the case of so many liberals, there's no problem with lying or using any other dishonest means available, to demonize truth:

"Bill Maher’s horrible excuse: Why his defense of Islamophobia just doesn’t make any sense

For all his odes to liberal ideals, Maher's latest effort to demonize Muslims reveals a disturbing, illiberal truth"
Myriam Francois-Cerrah

When what Maher and Harris did, as they specifically and emphatically and repeatedly stated, was criticize Islam and specifically not Muslims.
http://www.salon.com/2014/10/12/bill_mahers_horrible_excuse_why_his_defense_of_islamophobia_just_doesnt_make_any_sense/

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Re: Islamophobia
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2019, 10:05:23 AM »
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