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Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition
« on: August 22, 2013, 09:23:23 AM »
New tract prepared for the new site http://www.FalseProphetMuhammad.com
Web page: "Ask Your Imam" http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/ask_your_imam.htm
PDF tract:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/m32.pdf

Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition

Tract M 32


1. Ask your imam to present you with some historical or archaeological evidence that suggests that Mecca existed before the 4th century AD (Besides trotting out the usual anecdotal misunderstandings of 18th century Edward Gibbon and early 20th century A. J. Wensinck). Bearing in mind that Arabia has one of the best preserved archaeological records on earth, because the low rainfall reduces degradation of the archaeological evidence. There are many ancient towns to which the historical and archaeological records of Arabia attest, that also attest to each other, and even to small Arabian towns that came and went over a couple of centuries prior to the Christian era.

2. Ask your Imam how there came to be such a massive historical and archaeological record of Jerusalem, in the Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs - where there are a million artifacts on display - while the epicenter of Islam being Mecca has none, yet is supposed to have predated Jerusalem, with Adam credited with having built the Kaaba.

3. Then ask your Imam why Abraham would abandon his wife Sarah - and his son Isaac in whom God made His covenant - in Hebron (where Muslims visit Abraham's grave to this day) to wander across 1200 kilometers of harsh barren desert, with Sarah's handmaiden Hagar and her son Ishmael to the place where Mecca was eventually settled in the 4th century AD.

4. Then ask your Imam how Abraham traveled across 1200 kilometers of unexplored, uncharted, untraveled desert, with Sarah's handmaiden Hagar and her son Ishmael, most of a millennium before the historical record tells us the first caravan route was established along the Red Sea in Arabia.

5. Then ask your Imam how they accomplished that journey most of a millennium before the advent of camel transport (1200-1000 BC according to this Islamic site).

6. Did Hagar again wander over 1000 kilometers from Mecca to Egypt, to fetch Ishmael his Egyptian wife, and the two of them wander back to Mecca again?

7. Then ask your Imam how Ishmael was able to travel back across that same 1200 kilometers of unexplored, untraveled, barren desert wasteland, to join his brother Isaac in time for their father Abraham's burial in Hebron.
 
Theological Questions

In terms of theology, it is important to preface with the fact that by Muhammad's 7th century, the Gospel had been translated into every popular language, had been copied many tens of thousands of times, and had been read all over the known world for centuries. In that context:

8. How does your Imam reconcile the fact that Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel, while at the same time instructing Christians to believe in what is revealed in the Gospel?

Surah 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

9. How does he reconcile Muhammad's followers denying the Son of God, in spite of the hundreds of verses in scripture that proclaim Jesus the Son of God and God His Father, even after Muhammad proclaimed:

Surah 5:68 Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith.

10. How does your Imam reconcile rejecting remission of sin through the blood of the Lamb of God - the whole subject of the Gospel and essentially the whole Bible - even after Muhammad described the Gospel thus:

Surah 48.29 ... This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.

In light of Muhammad's astute observation, consider what's going on in Nigeria and all around the rest of the world, with 105,000 to 180,000 Christians martyred around the world every year.

11. Since there were no Islamic books in Muhammad's day, how does your Imam justify modern day Muslim's claims of "corruption", since Muhammad proclaimed:

Surah 80.13 (It is) in Books held (greatly) in honour, 14 Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy,15 (Written) by the hands of scribes- 16 Honourable and Pious and Just.

12. Why are a massive 71 out of only 114 chapters in the Quran subject to abrogation, even though the Quran was revealed to only one man, and only over the short span of just 23 years?

13. Why did Muhammad switch the qibla of his followers from Jerusalem to Mecca, and why did he switch his "holy day" from the Sabbath to Friday?

14. How can a follower of Muhammad do as Muhammad's "Allah" instructed him to do, and "believe in" "the scripture which He sent to those before" Muhammad, if they have never even read them? Why not read the Gospel of John right now at this link?
Or watch the movie on Netflix, or watch a YouTube of it (look for the full version)?

Surah 4:136 O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray.

15. Bearing in mind the preface to this theology section, since Muhammad's followers are supposed to "believe in" the scriptures that were sent down before Muhammad, how could there be any harm in reading them? Which brings us to the next question to ask your Imam.

16. What spirit would be behind a follower of Muhammad being subject to the death penalty under the law, for choosing to leave the anti-religion of Islam, in Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Qatar, Yemen and Mauritania, and could be imprisoned for the same in Egypt, UAE, Malaysia, Jordan and Morocco (for 15 years!)?

17. What spirit would be behind the Gospel being banned or restricted in 53, primarily Islamic, nations around the world?

18. What spirit would be responsible for "Sunni Muslim terrorists" committing “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders around the world last year, according to the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC)? (That's for the year 2011, and doesn't even include Shiite Muslim terrorist murders.)

19. What spirit was responsible for Muhammad's "Allah" bestowing on him all the wives and concubines he desired, but only for him?

20. What spirit was responsible for Muhammad's "Allah" bestowing on him one-fifth of all the "spoils of war" and "booty" stolen from others, when Abraham with whom Muhammad wished to be associated, given the very same set of circumstances following his conquest of the Sodomites that was ordained directly by God, specifically refused the spoils of war when the vanquished invited him to take them?

21. What spirit made Muhammad behave in a way that was the opposite of that of Jesus?
Jesus healed the lame so they could walk.
Mohammed brought lameness to the walking. Bukhari V4 B52 #261 "...they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off." video
Jesus brought sight to the blind.
Mohammed brought blindness to the seeing. "...then he ordered for nails which were heated and passed over their eyes..."
Jesus brought the dead back to life.
Mohammed mass murdered the living.

What should all of the numbered points above communicate to Muhammad's followers about Muhammad and his "Allah" through which he served himself? What spirit is involved?

Please keep checking back as this list will continue to be expanded, regarding the perfectly opposite nature of Islam to the Gospel, as well as Muhammad to Jesus. Also look for the PDF to come, that will allow you to simply hand it to your Imam, or leave it laying around where he will find it.

If you live in the Middle East cradle of Muhammad's anti-religion, you likely already know that rather than offer you answers, your Imam will instead put your name on a list of aspiring "apostates", possibly resulting in a death sentence. Why do you suppose that is? Because your Imam is walking in truth, or is terrified of it? It would be interesting to hear the replies, of those Imams in western societies, where freedom of speech is still a little bit protected, and thus far folks aren't sentenced to death for their speech as in Islamic countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

The answer to all of the above questions is, of course, that there is not a shred of evidence that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD. The entirety of Islamic so-called "tradition" regarding suggestion of a history of Mecca prior to the 4th century AD, was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD without reference to any actual historical record from prior to the 5th century.

Islamic "tradition" that masquerades as 4500 years of a pre-4th century history of Mecca, that is in its entirely directly contrary to the actual historical record bequeathed to us through the scriptures of the Jews and Christians. The record of the ONE true God YHWH, as revealed through all of the prophets and witnesses in His 1600 year record to mankind, that His people have followed through two covenants, for 3500 years.

1John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

The false prophet Muhammad's followers compose the only anti-a-specific-religion group of people on earth.

Please do your own due diligence. Web search - historical record mecca - or - archaeological record mecca.

ASK YOUR IMAMS. If you are afraid to, that should communicate to you everything that you need to know. Here's why:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

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Re: Questions for Imams Re Islamic Tradition
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2013, 09:57:46 AM »
Why do Imams continue to advance the 16th century Muhammadan forgery of the so-called gospel of Barnabas, when that preposterous bunch of Muhammadan forged blasphemous tripe has Jesus proclaiming, that Muhammad is the Messiah?

http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_barnabas.htm

Gospel of Barnabas Chapter 97 Then said the priest: "How shall the Messiah be called, and what sign shall reveal his coming?" Jesus answered: "The name of the Messiah is admirable, for God himself gave him the name when he had created his soul, and placed it in a celestial splendour. God said: "Wait Muhammad; for your sake I will to create paradise, the world, and a great multitude of creatures, whereof I make you a present, insomuch that whoever shall bless you shall be blessed, and whoever shall curse you shall be accursed. When I shall send you into the world I shall send you as my Messenger of salvation, and your word shall be true, insomuch that heaven and earth shall fail, but your faith shall never fail." Muhammad is his blessed name." Then the crowd lifted up their voices, saying: "O God send us your Messenger: O Muhammad, come quickly for the salvation of the world!"

Amazingly it is the third most viewed page on this site:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_barnabas.htm

This should give us an idea as to the lies that Muhammad's followers are being fed. Anything to keep them away from the Gospel, and stuck in the spirit of antichrist.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/#antichrist

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Re: Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 10:05:39 AM »
According to Muhammad's followers, the most deadly and only unforgivable sin is committed, if a follower of Muhammad were to confess that Jesus is the Son of God, or even to pray in Jesus' name. As opposed to child rape or cold-blooded mass murder, which may be forgiven.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3344.0

How would it then not necessarily follow, that Muslims must believe that each and every Christian throughout a period of nearly 2,000 years, has lived and died in a state of committing the only unforgivable sin in the false prophet Muhammad's religion, because we pray in Jesus name just as the Gospel instructs?
(the same Gospel that even Muhammad told Christians to go by what is revealed therein!)
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Jhn 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

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Re: Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 10:55:27 AM »
Why do Muslims consider Christians guilty of shirk for recognizing Jesus as our intercessor, but Muhammad's followers are not guilty of shirk, for recognizing Muhammad as their intercessor?
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3790.0

Bukhari B7, #331 Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: the Prophet said,.....4. I have been given the right of intercession (on the Day of Resurrection). 5. Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have been sent to all mankind.

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Re: Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 11:28:44 AM »
You have read Islamic literature and the Quran but you fail to understand due to your closed heart that refuses to seek for guidance from your Lord.

Read the verses of the Quran that addresses you directly. Ya ayuhul .kitaab o people of the book and ponder over why Allah would address you in the Quran as he has address all of his creation. If you a man that believes in God you will be guided. That is the promise of Allah

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Re: Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2014, 07:54:11 AM »
You have read Islamic literature and the Quran but you fail to understand due to your closed heart that refuses to seek for guidance from your Lord.

Read the verses of the Quran that addresses you directly. Ya ayuhul .kitaab o people of the book and ponder over why Allah would address you in the Quran as he has address all of his creation. If you a man that believes in God you will be guided. That is the promise of Allah

Just notices this post. Don't be silly Muj. Your Imams have no more answers to the questions in the OP than you provided in this vacuous post, because of the pure fiction Muhammad's followers created, in the 7th to 10th centuries AD.
Perhaps you agree with Ibn Ishak who originated the idea, that Abraham and Ishmael regularly traveled back and forth between Hebron and Mecca, on flying donkey-mules!
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1713.msg7037#msg7037

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Re: Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2014, 08:29:06 AM »
New tract prepared for the new site http://www.FalseProphetMuhammad.com
Web page: "Ask Your Imam" http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/ask_your_imam.htm
PDF tract:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/m32.pdf

Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition

Tract M 32


1. Ask your imam to present you with some historical or archaeological evidence that suggests that Mecca existed before the 4th century AD (Besides trotting out the usual anecdotal misunderstandings of 18th century Edward Gibbon and early 20th century A. J. Wensinck). Bearing in mind that Arabia has one of the best preserved archaeological records on earth, because the low rainfall reduces degradation of the archaeological evidence. There are many ancient towns to which the historical and archaeological records of Arabia attest, that also attest to each other, and even to small Arabian towns that came and went over a couple of centuries prior to the Christian era.

2. Ask your Imam how there came to be such a massive historical and archaeological record of Jerusalem, in the Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs - where there are a million artifacts on display - while the epicenter of Islam being Mecca has none, yet is supposed to have predated Jerusalem, with Adam credited with having built the Kaaba.

3. Then ask your Imam why Abraham would abandon his wife Sarah - and his son Isaac in whom God made His covenant - in Hebron (where Muslims visit Abraham's grave to this day) to wander across 1200 kilometers of harsh barren desert, with Sarah's handmaiden Hagar and her son Ishmael to the place where Mecca was eventually settled in the 4th century AD.

4. Then ask your Imam how Abraham traveled across 1200 kilometers of unexplored, uncharted, untraveled desert, with Sarah's handmaiden Hagar and her son Ishmael, most of a millennium before the historical record tells us the first caravan route was established along the Red Sea in Arabia.

5. Then ask your Imam how they accomplished that journey most of a millennium before the advent of camel transport (1200-1000 BC according to this Islamic site).

6. Did Hagar again wander over 1000 kilometers from Mecca to Egypt, to fetch Ishmael his Egyptian wife, and the two of them wander back to Mecca again?

7. Then ask your Imam how Ishmael was able to travel back across that same 1200 kilometers of unexplored, untraveled, barren desert wasteland, to join his brother Isaac in time for their father Abraham's burial in Hebron.
 
Theological Questions

In terms of theology, it is important to preface with the fact that by Muhammad's 7th century, the Gospel had been translated into every popular language, had been copied many tens of thousands of times, and had been read all over the known world for centuries. In that context:

8. How does your Imam reconcile the fact that Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel, while at the same time instructing Christians to believe in what is revealed in the Gospel?

Surah 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

9. How does he reconcile Muhammad's followers denying the Son of God, in spite of the hundreds of verses in scripture that proclaim Jesus the Son of God and God His Father, even after Muhammad proclaimed:

Surah 5:68 Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith.

10. How does your Imam reconcile rejecting remission of sin through the blood of the Lamb of God - the whole subject of the Gospel and essentially the whole Bible - even after Muhammad described the Gospel thus:

Surah 48.29 ... This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.

In light of Muhammad's astute observation, consider what's going on in Nigeria and all around the rest of the world, with 105,000 to 180,000 Christians martyred around the world every year.

11. Since there were no Islamic books in Muhammad's day, how does your Imam justify modern day Muslim's claims of "corruption", since Muhammad proclaimed:

Surah 80.13 (It is) in Books held (greatly) in honour, 14 Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy,15 (Written) by the hands of scribes- 16 Honourable and Pious and Just.

12. Why are a massive 71 out of only 114 chapters in the Quran subject to abrogation, even though the Quran was revealed to only one man, and only over the short span of just 23 years?

13. Why did Muhammad switch the qibla of his followers from Jerusalem to Mecca, and why did he switch his "holy day" from the Sabbath to Friday?

14. How can a follower of Muhammad do as Muhammad's "Allah" instructed him to do, and "believe in" "the scripture which He sent to those before" Muhammad, if they have never even read them? Why not read the Gospel of John right now at this link?
Or watch the movie on Netflix, or watch a YouTube of it (look for the full version)?

Surah 4:136 O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray.

15. Bearing in mind the preface to this theology section, since Muhammad's followers are supposed to "believe in" the scriptures that were sent down before Muhammad, how could there be any harm in reading them? Which brings us to the next question to ask your Imam.

16. What spirit would be behind a follower of Muhammad being subject to the death penalty under the law, for choosing to leave the anti-religion of Islam, in Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Qatar, Yemen and Mauritania, and could be imprisoned for the same in Egypt, UAE, Malaysia, Jordan and Morocco (for 15 years!)?

17. What spirit would be behind the Gospel being banned or restricted in 53, primarily Islamic, nations around the world?

18. What spirit would be responsible for "Sunni Muslim terrorists" committing “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders around the world last year, according to the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC)? (That's for the year 2011, and doesn't even include Shiite Muslim terrorist murders.)

19. What spirit was responsible for Muhammad's "Allah" bestowing on him all the wives and concubines he desired, but only for him?

20. What spirit was responsible for Muhammad's "Allah" bestowing on him one-fifth of all the "spoils of war" and "booty" stolen from others, when Abraham with whom Muhammad wished to be associated, given the very same set of circumstances following his conquest of the Sodomites that was ordained directly by God, specifically refused the spoils of war when the vanquished invited him to take them?

21. What spirit made Muhammad behave in a way that was the opposite of that of Jesus?
Jesus healed the lame so they could walk.
Mohammed brought lameness to the walking. Bukhari V4 B52 #261 "...they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off." video
Jesus brought sight to the blind.
Mohammed brought blindness to the seeing. "...then he ordered for nails which were heated and passed over their eyes..."
Jesus brought the dead back to life.
Mohammed mass murdered the living.

What should all of the numbered points above communicate to Muhammad's followers about Muhammad and his "Allah" through which he served himself? What spirit is involved?

Please keep checking back as this list will continue to be expanded, regarding the perfectly opposite nature of Islam to the Gospel, as well as Muhammad to Jesus. Also look for the PDF to come, that will allow you to simply hand it to your Imam, or leave it laying around where he will find it.

If you live in the Middle East cradle of Muhammad's anti-religion, you likely already know that rather than offer you answers, your Imam will instead put your name on a list of aspiring "apostates", possibly resulting in a death sentence. Why do you suppose that is? Because your Imam is walking in truth, or is terrified of it? It would be interesting to hear the replies, of those Imams in western societies, where freedom of speech is still a little bit protected, and thus far folks aren't sentenced to death for their speech as in Islamic countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

The answer to all of the above questions is, of course, that there is not a shred of evidence that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD. The entirety of Islamic so-called "tradition" regarding suggestion of a history of Mecca prior to the 4th century AD, was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD without reference to any actual historical record from prior to the 5th century.

Islamic "tradition" that masquerades as 4500 years of a pre-4th century history of Mecca, that is in its entirely directly contrary to the actual historical record bequeathed to us through the scriptures of the Jews and Christians. The record of the ONE true God YHWH, as revealed through all of the prophets and witnesses in His 1600 year record to mankind, that His people have followed through two covenants, for 3500 years.

1John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

The false prophet Muhammad's followers compose the only anti-a-specific-religion group of people on earth.

Please do your own due diligence. Web search - historical record mecca - or - archaeological record mecca.

ASK YOUR IMAMS. If you are afraid to, that should communicate to you everything that you need to know. Here's why:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Faith is based on belief in the unseen . Muslims do not need archeological conjecture, suppositions, theories and guesses to fulfill their belief. The fact that you questioning the veracity of the claims of the Prophet of ALLAH 1431 years after the fact is tantamount to me writing a book on the prophets and saying it is from GOD. Your questions are irrelevant and absurd and you missing the point of the message that God has sent you.

Your false claims and rhetoric is of no consequence and your vile remarks is an indication of your mental defeat by muslims.
I am not spamming here, I am refuting your absurd conjecture that has no basis in Religion.
Your absurd claims based on pure conjecture is irrelevant to the religious arguments for and against Islam.The absurdity of your claim lies in the fact the YOU HAVE NEVER NOR HAS ANYONE YOU KNOW EXCAVATED MAKKAH and you therefore have no conclusive or even eye witness accounts to make a claim of any sort. Your claim is based on conjecture.

I have told you hundreds of times that THE BOOK (bible, Biblios) Holy Book) whatever you want to call it is a man written account of the Prophets of GOD it is not from the Prophets and much less from GOD. If i write a book it would more or less have the same status, it would be call a book and if I write it in the Name of God it would termed ( a holy book). Who follows it or rejects it is entirely an individual choice not based divine inspiration but on ego. Therefore the writers opinion that Jesus is the way and the light is an individual opinion not a divine decree. If it is in contradiction to the first command then its blasphemy.

You PETER and your band of Followers have not emptied your heart in order for Divine grace and guidance to enter,
Please try as I have done to respectfully read all scripture

OH another lie iOS that the Scripture was translated into every language and read all over the known world is completely baseless. Its a Romantic view that has no basis. As you can recall, Christian historians call this period (5th-15th Century) the dark ages of Europe, Everywhere else in the world people were in the Light. The Muslim conquests brought the world into the light of learning and new concepts. READ THE TRUE HISTORY OF SPAIN!!!!! READ THE HISTORY OF MATHEMATICS, READ THE HISTORY OF MEDICINE!!! WATCH DOCUMENTARIES MDE BY YOUR OWN EXPERTS IN AMERICA REGARDING THE TRUE HISTORY OF THE ORIGIN OF THE RENAISSANCE of Europe

YOUR coffee you consume comes from the arabic word kohwa and the first port of export was Mocha. second country to grow coffee also Muslim Java (indonesia) Worlds favorite coffee Mocha Java.
The Chinese had invented paper and trade with Muslims allowed Europe the opportunity to learn paper making and able to pull out of dark ages.
I can go on and on but this is about questioning the IMAM, as if we don't question everything in ISAM. IT IS OUT NATURE TO LEARN AND TO FIND OUT< NOT TO FOLLOW BLINDLY LIKE THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS!!!!!


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Re: Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 06:03:55 AM »
New tract prepared for the new site http://www.FalseProphetMuhammad.com
Web page: "Ask Your Imam" http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/ask_your_imam.htm
PDF tract:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/m32.pdf

Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition

Tract M 32


1. Ask your imam to present you with some historical or archaeological evidence that suggests that Mecca existed before the 4th century AD (Besides trotting out the usual anecdotal misunderstandings of 18th century Edward Gibbon and early 20th century A. J. Wensinck). Bearing in mind that Arabia has one of the best preserved archaeological records on earth, because the low rainfall reduces degradation of the archaeological evidence. There are many ancient towns to which the historical and archaeological records of Arabia attest, that also attest to each other, and even to small Arabian towns that came and went over a couple of centuries prior to the Christian era.

2. Ask your Imam how there came to be such a massive historical and archaeological record of Jerusalem, in the Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs - where there are a million artifacts on display - while the epicenter of Islam being Mecca has none, yet is supposed to have predated Jerusalem, with Adam credited with having built the Kaaba.

3. Then ask your Imam why Abraham would abandon his wife Sarah - and his son Isaac in whom God made His covenant - in Hebron (where Muslims visit Abraham's grave to this day) to wander across 1200 kilometers of harsh barren desert, with Sarah's handmaiden Hagar and her son Ishmael to the place where Mecca was eventually settled in the 4th century AD.

4. Then ask your Imam how Abraham traveled across 1200 kilometers of unexplored, uncharted, untraveled desert, with Sarah's handmaiden Hagar and her son Ishmael, most of a millennium before the historical record tells us the first caravan route was established along the Red Sea in Arabia.

5. Then ask your Imam how they accomplished that journey most of a millennium before the advent of camel transport (1200-1000 BC according to this Islamic site).

6. Did Hagar again wander over 1000 kilometers from Mecca to Egypt, to fetch Ishmael his Egyptian wife, and the two of them wander back to Mecca again?

7. Then ask your Imam how Ishmael was able to travel back across that same 1200 kilometers of unexplored, untraveled, barren desert wasteland, to join his brother Isaac in time for their father Abraham's burial in Hebron.
 
Theological Questions

In terms of theology, it is important to preface with the fact that by Muhammad's 7th century, the Gospel had been translated into every popular language, had been copied many tens of thousands of times, and had been read all over the known world for centuries. In that context:

8. How does your Imam reconcile the fact that Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel, while at the same time instructing Christians to believe in what is revealed in the Gospel?

Surah 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

9. How does he reconcile Muhammad's followers denying the Son of God, in spite of the hundreds of verses in scripture that proclaim Jesus the Son of God and God His Father, even after Muhammad proclaimed:

Surah 5:68 Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith.

10. How does your Imam reconcile rejecting remission of sin through the blood of the Lamb of God - the whole subject of the Gospel and essentially the whole Bible - even after Muhammad described the Gospel thus:

Surah 48.29 ... This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.

In light of Muhammad's astute observation, consider what's going on in Nigeria and all around the rest of the world, with 105,000 to 180,000 Christians martyred around the world every year.

11. Since there were no Islamic books in Muhammad's day, how does your Imam justify modern day Muslim's claims of "corruption", since Muhammad proclaimed:

Surah 80.13 (It is) in Books held (greatly) in honour, 14 Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy,15 (Written) by the hands of scribes- 16 Honourable and Pious and Just.

12. Why are a massive 71 out of only 114 chapters in the Quran subject to abrogation, even though the Quran was revealed to only one man, and only over the short span of just 23 years?

13. Why did Muhammad switch the qibla of his followers from Jerusalem to Mecca, and why did he switch his "holy day" from the Sabbath to Friday?

14. How can a follower of Muhammad do as Muhammad's "Allah" instructed him to do, and "believe in" "the scripture which He sent to those before" Muhammad, if they have never even read them? Why not read the Gospel of John right now at this link?
Or watch the movie on Netflix, or watch a YouTube of it (look for the full version)?

Surah 4:136 O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray.

15. Bearing in mind the preface to this theology section, since Muhammad's followers are supposed to "believe in" the scriptures that were sent down before Muhammad, how could there be any harm in reading them? Which brings us to the next question to ask your Imam.

16. What spirit would be behind a follower of Muhammad being subject to the death penalty under the law, for choosing to leave the anti-religion of Islam, in Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Qatar, Yemen and Mauritania, and could be imprisoned for the same in Egypt, UAE, Malaysia, Jordan and Morocco (for 15 years!)?

17. What spirit would be behind the Gospel being banned or restricted in 53, primarily Islamic, nations around the world?

18. What spirit would be responsible for "Sunni Muslim terrorists" committing “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders around the world last year, according to the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC)? (That's for the year 2011, and doesn't even include Shiite Muslim terrorist murders.)

19. What spirit was responsible for Muhammad's "Allah" bestowing on him all the wives and concubines he desired, but only for him?

20. What spirit was responsible for Muhammad's "Allah" bestowing on him one-fifth of all the "spoils of war" and "booty" stolen from others, when Abraham with whom Muhammad wished to be associated, given the very same set of circumstances following his conquest of the Sodomites that was ordained directly by God, specifically refused the spoils of war when the vanquished invited him to take them?

21. What spirit made Muhammad behave in a way that was the opposite of that of Jesus?
Jesus healed the lame so they could walk.
Mohammed brought lameness to the walking. Bukhari V4 B52 #261 "...they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off." video
Jesus brought sight to the blind.
Mohammed brought blindness to the seeing. "...then he ordered for nails which were heated and passed over their eyes..."
Jesus brought the dead back to life.
Mohammed mass murdered the living.

What should all of the numbered points above communicate to Muhammad's followers about Muhammad and his "Allah" through which he served himself? What spirit is involved?

Please keep checking back as this list will continue to be expanded, regarding the perfectly opposite nature of Islam to the Gospel, as well as Muhammad to Jesus. Also look for the PDF to come, that will allow you to simply hand it to your Imam, or leave it laying around where he will find it.

If you live in the Middle East cradle of Muhammad's anti-religion, you likely already know that rather than offer you answers, your Imam will instead put your name on a list of aspiring "apostates", possibly resulting in a death sentence. Why do you suppose that is? Because your Imam is walking in truth, or is terrified of it? It would be interesting to hear the replies, of those Imams in western societies, where freedom of speech is still a little bit protected, and thus far folks aren't sentenced to death for their speech as in Islamic countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

The answer to all of the above questions is, of course, that there is not a shred of evidence that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD. The entirety of Islamic so-called "tradition" regarding suggestion of a history of Mecca prior to the 4th century AD, was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD without reference to any actual historical record from prior to the 5th century.

Islamic "tradition" that masquerades as 4500 years of a pre-4th century history of Mecca, that is in its entirely directly contrary to the actual historical record bequeathed to us through the scriptures of the Jews and Christians. The record of the ONE true God YHWH, as revealed through all of the prophets and witnesses in His 1600 year record to mankind, that His people have followed through two covenants, for 3500 years.

1John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

The false prophet Muhammad's followers compose the only anti-a-specific-religion group of people on earth.

Please do your own due diligence. Web search - historical record mecca - or - archaeological record mecca.

ASK YOUR IMAMS. If you are afraid to, that should communicate to you everything that you need to know. Here's why:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Faith is based on belief in the unseen .

What you are describing is blind faith in Muhammad alone with faith in nothing more than what Muhammad SAID, about his Muhammad-serving alter-ego "Allah". You quoted the post but couldn't answer a single question, because Islam is nothing but a lie from top to bottom. It wouldn't be so bad if you had put your blind faith in a man, who told you the tooth fairy or Santa Claus existed. But your blind empty faith in Muhammad alone, is blind empty provably foundationless faith in the exact opposite of that revealed through the 1600 year record of YHWH to mankind, through all of His prophets and witnesses. Pure blind faith in the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel. Your empty blind faith is thus in Satan himself, as delivered to you by his "messenger" Muhammad. Your faith is in an ANTICHRIST and his antichrist satanic lie from straight out of the pit of hell.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

Muslims do not need archeological conjecture,........

It has nothing to do with need, but that you CANNOT consider the evidence because it handily demonstrates Muhammadanism to be a lie. What you mean is that Muhammad's followers must reject the evidence of the truth, and insist on self-imposed abject ignorance instead, until their capacity for critical thought becomes that an information devoid, illiterate, 7th century SW Arabian desert dweller.
Archaeology is a SCIENCE that has only been around since the 17th century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology#Antiquarians
"We speak from facts not theory".
EVIDENCE is the OPPOSITE of CONJECTURE. There are over a million artifacts, just on display, in Jerusalem. This is the EVIDENCE that ever increasingly demonstrates the HISTORICAL RECORD of SCRIPTURE to be a reliable record of ancient history.
https://www.google.com/#q=archaeology+confirms+scripture

All you are admitting is that in order to follow Muhammad alone, a person has to run and hide from EVIDENCE, and void their intellect until it becomes that of a 7th century SW Arabian desert dwelling illiterate. Actually even worse, since most of them even had the good sense to leave Muhammad's cult, after his ridiculous lie about riding around on a magic flying donkey-mule, and praying in a temple that HISTORY tells us had been torn down 500 years before he told his foolish lie.
http://www.petewaldo.com/mohammeds_night_journey.htm

........ suppositions, theories and guesses to fulfill their belief.

Exactly the opposite - however you perfectly described Muhammadanism that did not even exist until the 7th century AD. Your eternal life depends on a self-proclaimed but imitation intercessor in the person of a violent, imperialistic, innocent Jewish farm boy beheading, little girl doing, female captive raping, self-proclaimed "messenger" who founded an anti-religion - with a scripture-contrary, pre-Muhammad history-devoid, archaeology-absent, geographically-impossible, reality-denying Islamic so-called "tradition" - that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-Muhammad history, yet was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD without reference to any actual historical record that preceded the 5th century AD. An anti-religion with a carnal tradition of prostrating toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol and Kaaba in Mecca five times a day - located 1200 kilometers away from the Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs - while praying in the "vain repetitions as the heathen do" in the names of the Arabian pagan deity "Allah" and his "messenger" Muhammad. Even performing thinly veneered Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals as the Quraish did before Muhammad was ever born, and "fasting" during Ramadan as the Sabian moon god worshipers did.

You perfectly described Islam except of course, as the practice of the Arabian pagans whose moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals, Muhammad adopted, adapted and thinly veneered so he could profit from Kaaba Inc. like his pagan uncle had before him.
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_24_Profitable_Prophet_Plan.Islam

What you actually mean is Muhammad's followers must ignore scripture, history, archaeology, geography and fulfilled Bible prophecy, and march around the Kaaba as the Arabian pagans did before Muhammad, because you believe in the lies of Satan - who is the father of them.

The fact that you questioning the veracity of the claims of the Prophet of ALLAH 1431 years after the fact.........

The science of archaeology did not even exist until the 17th century. But the truth is certainly not dependent on archaeology. Fulfilled Bible prophecy makes an even more compelling case:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/bible_prophecy.htm
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/psalms_22.htm
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/isaiah_53.htm

But God gave you the free will, to believe in Muhammad's magic flying donkey-mule, let alone his lying about praying in a temple that history confirms had been torn down 500 years prior to his lying about having prayed in it.
http://www.petewaldo.com/mohammeds_night_journey.htm

...... is tantamount to me writing a book on the prophets and saying it is from GOD.

Don't be silly Muj. Nobody that has ever read the Gospel and the Quran throughout the entirety of the last 1400 years, could believe anything other than Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel.

Quran Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

1Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

Your questions are irrelevant and absurd and you missing the point of the message that God has sent you.

That couldn't be more false. He sent you the same message Muj. You just prefer to believe Muhammad's lies instead. Here's one such message:

1John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
                     
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Your choice Muj. Because you came to this forum and have been shown the truth, you will not have the option of pleading ignorance, when you stand in judgment before the very Son of God that you blaspheme.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Your false claims and rhetoric is of no consequence and your vile remarks is an indication of your mental defeat by muslims.

You act as though it is about me Muj. But any honest MUSLIM Eastern History teacher will tell you the same. Like this one:

"All the facts point to the historical argument that Mecca was constructed in the 4th century A.D."
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2859.0

I am not spamming here,.........

No, just another one of your typical non-responsive and non-substantive replies. In this case quoting a post in which you were unable to reply to a single point.

........ I am refuting your absurd conjecture that has no basis in Religion.
Your absurd claims based on pure conjecture is irrelevant to the religious arguments for and against Islam.The absurdity of your claim lies in the fact the YOU HAVE NEVER NOR HAS ANYONE YOU KNOW EXCAVATED MAKKAH and you therefore have no conclusive or even eye witness accounts to make a claim of any sort. Your claim is based on conjecture.

Don't be silly Muj. If the Kaaba had been the epicenter of Islam ever since Adam, or at least ever since Abraham, artifacts would abound for many miles around - just as they do Jerusalem, and just as the archaeological EVIDENCE of other ACTUAL ancient Arabian towns attests.

I have told you hundreds of times that THE BOOK (bible, Biblios) Holy Book) whatever you want to call it is a man written account of the Prophets of GOD it is not from the Prophets and much less from GOD.

Which proves itself to be true through the historical and archaeological records, fulfilled prophecy, and even mathematically.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

If i write a book it would more or less have the same status, it would be call a book and if I write it in the Name of God it would termed ( a holy book).

Unless it could demonstrate itself to be a holy book, it would only be termed that as a foolish lie.

Who follows it or rejects it is entirely an individual choice not based divine inspiration but on ego. Therefore the writers opinion that Jesus is the way and the light is an individual opinion not a divine decree.

That's why the scriptures were written by corroborating WITNESSES with independent testimony.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm

EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of Muhammadanism. Where are the WITNESSES of Muhammad's magic flying donkey-mule?

If it is in contradiction to the first command then its blasphemy.

But it is the LONE testimony of a 7th century child doing, prisoner raping, mass murdering thief, that you choose to believe. ISLAM IS BLASPHEMY, just as prophesied of the false prophet Muhammad and his kingdom "beast":
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/blasphemy_laws.htm#islam_is_blasphemy

You PETER and your band of Followers have not emptied your heart in order for Divine grace and guidance to enter,

But you only suffer this self-deceit, even as you advocate for Satan, because he filled you with the spirit of antichrist. The exact opposite of a life in Jesus Christ.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

Thus your reality must be inverted. Truth must be considered lies, and lies truth. Good must be called evil and evil be misconstrued as good. Like the imperialistic slaughter of Islam:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm
and 1400 years of slavery:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamic_slavery_dhimmitude.htm
and 1400 years of rape of captives:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/great_tribulation.htm

Please try as I have done to respectfully read all scripture

I have read scripture, and have also read Satan's blasphemy of the Quran cover to cover. If you had done the same you would be running like a scalded dog from Muhammad alone, and into the arms of the one true God of love, as revealed through all of His prophets in His 1600 year record, whose people have followed Him through two covenants for 3500 years. You would be running like a scalded dog from Satan and his spirit of antichrist.

OH another lie iOS that the Scripture was translated into every language and read all over the known world is completely baseless. Its a Romantic view that has no basis.

We have 5300 partial or complete manuscripts of the Gospel that were penned prior to 300 AD that prove you are a liar, through nothing more than abject ignorance.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/bible_manuscript_errors_.htm

But then it isn't about my accusation:

1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

And thank you for all your lies Muj. Your participation in this forum should go a long way toward helping Muhammadans that are genuinely seeking truth, to find it. To recognize that they are living a lie that will carry them straight to the pit of hell.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

As you can recall, Christian historians call this period (5th-15th Century) the dark ages of Europe,

Didn't you even graduate from grade school? Or were you brainwashed in a madrassa instead?
Wrong period Muj. The scriptures complete in the first century. Those 5300 partial or complete transcripts of the Gospel predate the 5th century.

Everywhere else in the world people were in the Light. The Muslim conquests brought the world into the light of learning and new concepts. READ THE TRUE HISTORY OF SPAIN!!!!! READ THE HISTORY OF MATHEMATICS, READ THE HISTORY OF MEDICINE!!! WATCH DOCUMENTARIES MDE BY YOUR OWN EXPERTS IN AMERICA REGARDING THE TRUE HISTORY OF THE ORIGIN OF THE RENAISSANCE of Europe

YOUR coffee you consume comes from the arabic word kohwa and the first port of export was Mocha. second country to grow coffee also Muslim Java (indonesia) Worlds favorite coffee Mocha Java.
The Chinese had invented paper and trade with Muslims allowed Europe the opportunity to learn paper making and able to pull out of dark ages.
I can go on and on......

But why not try getting honest with yourself instead?

"According to Sennels, close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred. In Pakistan, the numbers approach 70%."
"Sennels says that “the ability to enjoy and produce knowledge and abstract thinking is simply lower in the Islamic world.” He points out that the Arab world translates just 330 books every year, about 20% of what Greece alone does.
In the last 1,200 years of Islam, just 100,000 books have been translated into Arabic, about what Spain does in a single year. Seven out of 10 Turks have never even read a book.
"
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1844.0

....... but this is about questioning the IMAM, as if we don't question everything in ISAM. IT IS OUT NATURE TO LEARN AND TO FIND OUT< NOT TO FOLLOW BLINDLY LIKE THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS!!!!!

Get real and honestly compare Islam's anti-intellectuallism and resulting abject failure, with the literacy and contributions to humanity, of Jews:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_and_jews.htm#families_of_earth_blessed

God gave you the free will to choose. Your choice, your fate.
Why don't you try actually answering each question now, Muj, to determine whether you follow the truth or a satanic antichrist lie?

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Re: Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2014, 07:34:03 AM »
Your own false prophet even describes why Satan is having his people persecute and murder Christians around the world:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm

Sura 48.29 ... This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

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Re: Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2014, 09:49:53 AM »
Your own false prophet even describes why Satan is having his people persecute and murder Christians around the world:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm

Sura 48.29 ... This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

YOU ARE THE PROOF OF THE QURAN, you just cited the verse that proves that you one filled with rage at them. The truth of the Quran is strengthened by the scripture. NOT YOUR OPINION OR THE INTERPRETATION OF THE COUNCIL OF NICEA>

HOW COULD A PERSON IN A DESERT DESCRIBE SOMEONE LIKE YOU EXACTLY??

YOU SAID HOW COULD THE FLYING MULE DONKEY GO TO MASJIDUL AQSA WHEN IT WASNT BUIT YET????

WELL HOW DID THE PROPHET KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE BUILT?? HOW DID HE KNOW WHERE???

ALL YOUR RHETORIC IS WORTH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BECAUSE YOU HAVE ARROGANTLY ADDED YOUR SUPPOSITIONS< CONJECTURE THE OPINIONS OF THE COUNCIL OF NICEA, MISINTERPRETATIONS OF UNQUALIFIED SCHOLARS ASKING ABSURD QUESTIONS AND LIES,

How could I possibly believe anything that you type???

You not thinking for yourself, you regurgitating the same fale accusations made in the time of Muhammad by the Atheist. (YES YOUR OBJECTIONS OF MUHAMMAD IS EXACTLY LIKE THE ATHEIST OF THE TIME)

Your attitude is the same as those of the people in the inquisition, making people heretics, branding them and wanting to burn them at the stake.

Well I am not a brainwashed heretic. I am an educated thinker that has studied the life of Muhammad (peace be upon him), the life of all the Prophets. through the Hadith and the Tuarat and the Gospels. I separated the facts from the conjecture and focussed on the divine message of each Prophet.

Prophet Moses mad Hira (flight) from Egypt, The prophet Muhammad mad the hijra from Makkah to Madina,
The Prophet EESA fell on his face and Prayed, Muhammad fell on his face and Prayed.
The Prophet Eesa fasted, Prophet Muhammad perfected it for his followers.
The Prophet Daniel slew the enemies of God, Muhammad fought against the Kuffaar disbelievers of Makkah
The Prophet Muhammad acknowledge Nabi EESA as the Messiah that will come again.


No Other religion describes Almighty God as poignantly or as good as he does. My relationship with God is based upon the beautiful teachings that you have yet to learn.


There is no conflict between Muhammad and the scriptures, there is no denying anything divinely sent.

You however deny the Truth pif the Prophets and you deny the first and most important command,
You follow popular opinion of the enemies of God
You follow your own conjecture
you aim to mislead with falsifying or presenting false testimony.
You have been measured and your rhetoric is found wanting



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Re: Questions for Imams Regarding Islamic Tradition
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2014, 12:14:09 PM »
Your own false prophet even describes why Satan is having his people persecute and murder Christians around the world:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm

Sura 48.29 ... This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

YOU ARE THE PROOF OF THE QURAN, you just cited the verse that proves that you one filled with rage at them. The truth of the Quran is strengthened by the scripture.

No Islam is exactly and specifically refuted by the scriptures. Islam is an anti-Gospel antichrist cult that follows Muhammad alone.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

NOT YOUR OPINION OR THE INTERPRETATION OF THE COUNCIL OF NICEA>

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3916.0

HOW COULD A PERSON IN A DESERT DESCRIBE SOMEONE LIKE YOU EXACTLY??

Who's the one still raging on in all caps Muj? Could your reading and comprehension skills be that wanting Muj? Try it this way:

Sura 48.29 ... This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them.

"them" not "us" Muj. Here's the same group:

Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

By Muhammad's 7th century the Gospel had been translated into every popular language, copied many tens of thousands of times, and had been read all over the known world for centuries.

So when are you going to explain that to us Muj?