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Title: THE ROLE OF THE TEMPLE AT MECCA IN THE JINN RELIGION OF ARABIA
Post by: Peter on April 15, 2010, 08:05:03 AM
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THE ROLE OF THE TEMPLE AT MECCA IN THE JINN RELIGION OF ARABIA

By Dr. Rafat Amari

 The Kaabah was a temple were the two statues of Asaf and Naelah, the famous Kuhhan of Jinn, were located. The Hajj began there and progressed to the statues of Wind-Jinn. Copies of the statues of Asaf and Naelah were placed over the hills of Safa and Marwa. One can not fail to observe the role of the temple of Mecca as a place of worship for the Jinn religion, as well as being a place for the worship of the Arabian Star Family.
    Another element which helps us to understand the role of the Temple of Mecca is that it united the two main religions of Arabia: the Jinn religion, and the Star Family religion. In the Star Family religion, Allah was the biggest star. His wife was the sun, and his daughters were Manat and al-'Uzza, each representing a planet. The Kuhhan who represented the Jinn religion to Arabians who practiced other pagan religions, such as the worship of the Arabian Star Family, were accepted by the people who considered the Kuhhan to be gods. The tribe of Quraish considered Iblis - another name for the devil - and Allah to be brothers.[1]  They said that between Allah and the Jinn, there is great kinship.[ii][2]   They believed that the angels where daughters of Allah, and that the mothers of the angels were the daughters of the "Jinn's lord."[iii][3] The Jinn were viewed as superior to the angels.  Pagan Arabians gave this exalted position to the Jinn because they believed the Jinn were in close relationship and kinship with Allah. Because the Jinn replaced the angels, they left their fingerprints on the Qur'an.

The Jinn-devils Replaced Angels in the Qur'an, Just as They Replaced Angels in Literature and Poetry of the Jinn Religion of Arabia[/i]

The Qur'an represents an Arabian literature developed before Mohammed; such literature attributed artistic works to the Jinn.[iv][4] In the Qur'an, we find the spirit of the Arabian Jinn religion. We see devils as ingenious workers for Solomon in Surah al-Anbiya'. Quoting from Surah 21, verses 81 and 82:
For Solomon, the violent wind flowed under his command to the land which we had blessed, for we do know everything. And among the devils were some who dived into the sea for him, and did other works besides, and we protected them.
Verse 81 refers to Solomon claiming that he had the wind as his servant. Under his command, the wind would go to the land which Allah blessed, called the land of Harran, as we understand from other sources. The wind as a servant of superior gods and deified kings is a habitual theme in ancient religions of the Middle East.
Al-Sabuni, a modern expositor of the Qur'an in Saudi Arabia, commented on verse 82:
The devils dived for Solomon, entering the depths of the sea in order to get jewels and pearls. They made great buildings for Solomon, including the construction of his palaces.
The devils are portrayed in the Qur'an as very useful agents for Solomon and for the prophets. They are pictured as true agents of God, which He placed into Solomon's service.[v][5] This teaching is derived from the Jinn religion which elevated the devils in the eyes of the Arabians so that the devils would become venerated and worshipped. These Qur'anic verses implied a relationship between God in the Old Testament and the devils, to the point that God would have protected them. This is contrary to the teaching of the Bible, where the devils are condemned creatures, and there is no partnership between God and devils.
Other verses of the Qur'an also show the influence of the Jinn religion on the  Qur'an. Surah 38, called Surah S'ad, in verses 37-39, is directed to Solomon: "The devils, which included every kind of builder and diver, is our bounty, so thank us, and no account will be asked."  The devils are portrayed as gifts of God to Solomon, who was required to thank God for them. This false allegation was taken directly from the Arabian Jinn religion, which gave the devils a high position and treated them as treasured gifts to the prophets of the Old Testament. Such allegations are contrary to the teaching of the Bible. The Bible warns us about devils, and presents them as a curse and as enemies of God and man. The Bible warns us not to have any relationship with devils.
Not only in the Qur'an do we also find the idea of devils working for Solomon, but we see it in pre-Islamic poems by men who were known to have a relationship with the Jinn.  For example, we find in the poems of al-Nabighah ??????? that the Jinn worked for Solomon, building the city of Tadmur in the Syrian desert for him[vi][6]. Another example is found in the writings of Al-Aasha', a pre-Islamic Arabian poet. al-Aasha' named the Jinn-devil who inspired his poetry. He called the Jinn-devil,  Musahhal ??????, and described him as his - beloved one."   Al-Aasha' says:  "my brother, the Jinn, has greeted me. My soul is dedicated to him."[vii][7] This shows al-Aasha' was one of the many poets dedicated to the Jinn religion of Arabia. These poets considered the Jinn to be brothers, and they tried to unify men with the Jinn. Mohammed also expressed similar thoughts. He claimed to go to heaven where he encountered Allah who delegated him for a mission to the humans and to the Jinn. Mohammed defined his people as originating from Jinn and humans.[viii][8]  He often claimed that the Jinn became Muslims,[ix][9] and he referred to them as brothers.
Title: Re: THE ROLE OF THE TEMPLE AT MECCA IN THE JINN RELIGION OF ARABIA
Post by: Peter on April 15, 2010, 08:05:36 AM
[1] Tafsir al-Tabari, 23, page 69

[ii][2] Tafsir al-Tabari, 23, page 69

[iii][3] Sahih al-Bukhari, 4, page 96
[iv][4] Al-Jaheth, al-Haiwan, 6, page 187; quoted by Jawad Ali, Al-Muffassal, vi, 723
[v][5] Sabuni, Safwat al-Tafasir, 2, page 270
[vi][6]  Al-Jaheth, Al Haiwan, 6, page 223; quoted by Jawad Ali, Al-Muffassal, vi, 723

[vii][7] Al-Tha'alibi, Abd al-Malik ibn Mohammed, Kitab Thimar al-qulub, pages 69 and 70

[viii][8] Halabieh 2, page 130
[ix][9] Sahih al-Bukhari, 5, page 227

[10] Halabieh 2, page 63
[xi][11] Taj Al Aruss, 9, page 165

[xii][12] Jeremy Black and Anthony Green, gods demons and symbols Ancient Mesopotamia, page 162
[xiii][13] Jeremy Black and Anthony Green, gods demons and symbols Ancient Mesopotamia, p. 88

[xiv][14] Alusi al-Baghdadi Mamud Shukri, Bulugh al-arab fi ma'rifat ahwal al-arab, 2, page 260

[xv][15] Alusi al-Baghdadi Mamud Shukri, Bulugh al-arab fi ma'rifat ahwal al-arab, 2, page 260; Maydaani, Majma' al-Amthaal, 2, page 81
[xvi][16] Maydaani, Majma' al-Amthaal, 2, page 81
[xvii][17]Tarikh al-Tabari, I, page 525

[xviii][18] Taj Al Aruss, 9, 410
[xix][19] Taj Al Aruss, I, pages 147 and 284
[xx][20] Taj Al Aruss, 9, page 165

[xxi][21] Al-Jaheth, Al Haiwan, 4, 203; quoted by Jawad Ali,vi, 726
[xxii][22] Raghib al-Isfahani, Abu al-Qasim al-Husayn ibn Muhammed, Mufradat al-Qur'an, page 307; al-Kalbi, al-Asnam, page 6; Taj al-Aruss, 10, page 225
[xxiii][23] Ibn Hisham I, page 64 ; Hamish Ala Al Rauth Al Anf, I, page 64; quoted by Jawad Ali, al Mufassal, vi, pages 401 and 402
[xxiv][24] Jawad Ali, al-Mufassal,  vi, page 448
[xxv][25] Sahih al-Bukhari, 2, 164
[xxvi][26] Halabieh 1, page 15

[xxvii][27] Ibn Al Muja'wir, Descriptio, 1, 7; quoted by  Patricia  Crone, Meccan Trade, Princeton University Press, 1987,  pages 106, 107
Copyright - 2004 by Dr. Rafat Amari. All rights reserved.
Title: Re: THE ROLE OF THE TEMPLE AT MECCA IN THE JINN RELIGION OF ARABIA
Post by: AnnaMuslim on July 03, 2010, 06:34:25 AM
In the name of ALLAH the Most merciful the most benevolent
All praise is due to ALLAH creator of the entire universe.

Kaabah was a temple were the two statues of Asaf and Naelah, the famous Kuhhan of Jinn, were located. The Hajj began there and progressed to the statues of Wind-Jinn. Copies of the statues of Asaf and Naelah were placed over the hills of Safa and Marwa. One can not fail to observe the role of the temple of Mecca as a place of worship for the Jinn religion, as well as being a place for the worship of the Arabian Star Family.

Ka'ba is the house of ALLAH, the first house of worship and obviously the first target for the biggest Jinn on earth Shaitaan. But despite what abuse may have occurred due to ignorance of the population at the time, The Jews abused the scriptures and Jesus was sent to correct their incorrect belief. Muhammad was sent to correct the incorrect belief of the entire humanity. The practices around the K'aba were obviously based on older pure religious practices that were corrupted over time, through the influences of the Jinn on humans. Humans have atendency to alter scripture over time to suit their own pride and vanity, put their stamp according to their feeble understanding, even historians, it is opinion not facts, one has to sift through most history books to find the facts and make sure the writer (his angle) does not cloud your judgement of the truth.

Just as your commentaries and observations and opinions are based on the opinions of others taken from human witness accounts according to their knowledge is highly inaccurate on almost all the posts in this website. Your comments are devoid of truth, or your truths are shrouded in hundreds of Lies.

Your Judgement is highly clouded by your opinionated teachers, so that you are unable to distinguisg between truth and falsehood.

Your commentary of the K'aba is incomplete and misguided, true as the events may be your conclusions are false.
Here is a short lesson for you, from the books of hadith you are quoting without any knowledge:

There are good jinns and bad jinn, the worst of the bad jinn is Iblees (commonly known as Shaitaan)
Is it so dificult to accept a parallel world to ours when you accept that there are angels and a devil (unseen creation). Your comments are made out of ignorance of the subject of jinns. Pagan Arab belief was what Islam came to correct. if you take all the Quranic reference to the Jinn in context of believing in ALLAH (who created man and Jinn for the purpose of his worship you will get an understanding of Jinn. Please do not not try to confuse readers by merging pagan (pre-Islam with Islamic principles) The Prophet was guided to take that which is good and discard that which was falsely introduced by man like the worship of creation by creation.

Please study Islam carefully and take this historical narration in its context from amn who died as a Muslim he did not change his beliefs due to the narrations he wrote as the said
QuoteMuhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari
QuoteLet the reader be aware that whatever I mention in my book is relied on the news that were narrated by some men. I had attributed these stories to their narrators, without inferring anything from their incidents ... [3].   "
"   If a certain man gets horrified by a certain incident that we reported in our book, then let him know that it did not come from us, but we only wrote down what we received from the narrators [4]

HE the person you quoting gave it no credibility as far as belief in Islam was concerned, Please read the history of this illustrious Muslim Scholar that contributed much to understanding the role jinn played in and still plays in corrupting ignorant humans that are devoid belief in ALLAH.

The role of the Ka'aba is simply a house of worship, House of ALLAH, the centre of earth, the golden mean upon which the mercy of ALLAH descends, the first house of worship built by Adam.

6 million people visit the ka'aba annually, and the numbers are set to soar over the next decade, the number of people embracing Islam at this very moment is an indiacation that we are rapidly moving toward the final period of peace that will be ushered into by the Mahdi and Jesus and where will Jesus be welcomed?
In the baitil Haraam at the Ka'ba. That is the Purpose of the Ka'ba. The second coming of Nabu EESA will take place there.

ALLAH knows best
Title: Re: THE ROLE OF THE TEMPLE AT MECCA IN THE JINN RELIGION OF ARABIA
Post by: Peter on July 03, 2010, 07:02:59 AM
Quote from: AnnaMuslim on July 03, 2010, 06:34:25 AM
Ka'ba is the house of ALLAH, the first house of worship and obviously the first target for the biggest Jinn on earth Shaitaan.

And didn't Satan hit a bulls eye there!!! 1.5 billion people compelled to go and participate in pagan ceremonies, even in this 21st century information age.

You avoided the question at the following link. If you don't answer the questions below next your posts, are going to join your spam storage until you answer them.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1079.msg6355#msg6355

You can answer it - and more - here since this is a related thread.

Was the very same black stone, venerated by Arab pagans before Mohammed, or not?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1050.msg6186#msg6186
Did Arab pagans circumambulate the kaaba and black stone in ceremony or not?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1320.0
Did Arab pagans run back and forth between Al-Safa and Al-Marwah in jinn/demon worship or not?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1282.0
Yes or No? (to each question please)
Title: Re: THE ROLE OF THE TEMPLE AT MECCA IN THE JINN RELIGION OF ARABIA
Post by: AnnaMuslim on July 08, 2010, 04:45:43 AM
Quote
You avoided the question at the following link. If you don't answer the questions below next your posts, are going to join your spam storage until you answer them.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1079.msg6355#msg6355

Muslims doe not worship the black stone, they do not think of it as veneration, they are following the Sunnah of the Prophet, if he did not do it none of his followers would do it, It is not fundamental to belief as a muslim and if it is never done no Sin is committed, it is acknowledging that it comes from ALLAH, it has no other spiritual value.

I did not avoid the question, you don't like my answers, here it is again

Most Religions (not Islam) are based on deviated scripture.
Islam is based on pure the teachings of all the Prophets since the Time of Adam

Religions have one thing in common they all end up worshipping a human or the human spirit,
Islam is the worship of one true GOD, the God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad

The messengers/ Prophets were sent from amongst the people to correct their beliefs
This is a line that started with Adam and continued to Muhammad

The customs, (SUNNAH) the obligation (FARD) all stem from ALLAH as they were revealed it to the Prophets and Muhammad (peace be upon him) connected all the dots.

The black stone is very minor sunnah and there are far more important question you can ask about Islam, but you are being petty trying to prove that Islam is pagan worship when it clearly is not.

The pagans worship objects and buildings and human-gods
Evident in all mythology and archeology from the Mayans to the Egyptians, Persians and the ROmans all have a family of GODS, like the deviated Christians.

AND ALLAH KNOWS BEST
MAY ALLAH GUIDE US



Title: Re: THE ROLE OF THE TEMPLE AT MECCA IN THE JINN RELIGION OF ARABIA
Post by: Peter on July 08, 2010, 05:57:19 AM
As I posted yesterday, no more distractions. You have a task before you AnnaMuslim. You made several accusations. Now it's time to back them up beginning with this one.

Quote from: AnnaMuslim on July 05, 2010, 06:28:34 PM
Dear Peter

Everything I type is relevant and not spam, you have so little understanding that I have to begin at the basics in order for you to grasp simple Religious concepts, before you are able to understand your role as a human being.You are not a person that listens to logic, you only listen to European and Americanized logic and that makes you a racist, you refute evidence from Hindus and Arabs and Persians that the Ka'aba existed long before Christianity, you present opinions as evidence. Most disturbing is that you quote from the Quran and Hadith out context and verses you have no knowledge of, you act out of ignorance, and your disrespect is not dialogue.  
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1079.msg6416#msg6416

Where did I "refute" the "evidence" that you claim I refuted? How can one refute something that one hasn't seen?

Where is the evidence from the Hindus, Arabs and Persians to which you refer?
Please bring the EVIDENCE, and post it at the following thread link so we can compare the EVIDENCE.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1138.0

I of course mean historical evidence. Not that 7th and 8th century created Islamic historical fiction penned by those like Ishak and Tabari, but the actual historical record, recorded by those living in or near the times during which it is recorded.
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