For folks that are honestly seeking truth, better to click the following link to view a Q&A with a sweet Muslim gal on her genuine quest, rather than the following bare knuckled exchange with one of Mohammed's proselytizers/Deedat's disciples (automatons).
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=707.0
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In typical fashion you will notice that even though I reply to his points and questions repeatedly he repeats the same old lines as though I never replied. At the same time you will observe that he almost never replies to my questions, or to my replies to his inquiry, because Mohammed's religion is exposed and left naked in the light of truth of God's Word, history, archaeology and geography.
All PMs from faro are copy and pasted intact. Most that I quoted in their entirety in my reply, have been moved to the chat extension, so you wouldn't have to read the material twice. If anyone finds a topic in the extension that I did not cover, that they have an interest in, please let me know and I will be happy to address it.
The chat with faro began with his two channel comments on my Brotherjw Channel. The video he is making reference to can be accessed at this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-_20sjHVI
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He wrote
fLAG THESE VIDEOS LOOK HOW MANY DISLIKES YOU HAVE AND LOOK HOW MANY LIKES AHMED DEEDATE AND HIS VIDEOS HAVE YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS DOESNT EXCEED THE PHARISES WHAT IF GOD FORBIDS THE KINGDOM TO YOU WE HAVE MANY REVERTS TO ISLAM FROM CHRISTIANITY AND COUNTING THIS MAN AND HOW HE REVEALEVED AND EXPOSED THE TRUTH THAT LITTLE TRUTH IN THE BIBLE YOU WISH TO EXTINGUISH NAY YOU CANT YOU NEVER WILL mAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU
COMMENT PENDING APPORVAL LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA !!!
Peter PM reply Nov 20
[[[fLAG THESE VIDEOS LOOK HOW MANY DISLIKES YOU HAVE ......]]]]]
Perhaps you believe truth is about popularity.
[[[[[..... AND LOOK HOW MANY LIKES AHMED DEEDATE AND HIS VIDEOS HAVE ......]]]]]
That only demonstrates how he fooled poor folks through his fake homemade bible verse. Let's see if you have even a little shred of independent thought capability left.
Please watch the attached video and see if you agree with Deedat, that the First Epistle of John confirms Mohammed was a true prophet, and not antichrist.
Who's right and who's wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_A
Nov 22
[[[[ummmmmm ahmed deedats likes trump the dislikes sorry people dont like hearing the truth my bad my bad ]]]]]
See what I mean?
You couldn't even start a reply. It's impossible for you to engage in an exchange.
You don't have even a smidgen of critical thought left in you. You are a mind numbed automaton - like a zombie.
I asked you to tell me who is right and who is wrong, yet you couldn't even think your way into an answer, to that simple question. There is only one answer.
Does John's first epistle confirm Mohammed was a true prophet and not antichrist, like Deedat suggested?
I proved to you that Deedat was A LIAR, that CREATED HIS OWN BIBLE VERSE to deceive you, yet you continue to defend him.
If you didn't want to watch the video, go to the text version at the link on the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_A
Quote from: Peter on December 02, 2010, 06:33:43 AM
It is popular worlds fastest growing religion
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/jesusq.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhazm0UdlTc
click this link its when you type ahmed deedat just ahmed deedat
Ratings for this video (2875 total)
Number of likes 2669
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lol dude you insult a man who has passed away you have no guilt are you even christian are you????
ARE YOU
WWJD
Matt. 5:44
~I say unto u, Love ur enemies, bless them that curse u, do go0d to them that hate u, and pRay for them which despitefully use u and persecute u
Nov 22
Denial is a virtue its a defense mechanism read about you my friend are in denial!!!!!!!!
Nov 23
[[[You know what im saying WWJD delete those videos!]]]]
See what I mean? You're entirely incapable of thinking for yourself. Also believing that the thing to do with truth is censor it, just like bibles have been banned in Islamic countries. Just like Islam's fear of truth for 1400 years.
You want the truth deleted so Ahmed Deedat's lies can stand uncorrected.
Previously you wrote....
[[[lol dude you insult a man who has passed away you have no guilt are you even christian are you????]]]]
Insult? I labeled him a liar which my video proved. It is a simple matter of fact. But that isn't all that makes Deedat a liar...
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because he BELIEVETH NOT THE RECORDd that God gave of his Son.
Are we to pretend Hitler was a nice guy just because he's dead? Pretend the holocaust never happened?
(Though you likely already do.)
Deedat is alive and well on YouTube thanks to his adoring bible-ignorant minions like you.
And even though it has been proven to you that Deedat was a hopeless liar (and was repeatedly corrected by men of faith) you still defend his lies.
That's because you follow the father of lies through his prophet Mohammed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_A
Nov 30
[[[["Deedat is alive and well on YouTube thanks to his adoring bible-ignorant minions like you.
And even though it has been proven to you that Deedat was a hopeless liar (and was repeatedly corrected by men of faith) you still defend his lies.
That's because you follow the father of lies through his prophet Mohammed."
lol im in the process of reverting .......]]]
"reverting" to a 7th century religion. Isn't that amusing?
[[[[........ two people if God wills you are not a true christian i know that much ]]]]]
You are winning people through satanic lies like Deedat's that I proved to you.
[[[[God will Show u what u did no man cant die for ur sins]]]]]
And that's the tragedy of it. Satan manifest through his false prophet Mohammed forcing you to reject the whole subject of the Gospel - he very blood that would save you.
[[[[CHina banned the bible too ....]]]]
If Satan's need to censor truth and the power of it, doesn't clue you, then you perhaps you do deserve the end you are heading for by following A SINGLE, 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife taking, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, cheating, blood drenched, imperialistic, conquering, terrorist, thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament..
If you believe a single characterization above is unsupportable through YOUR OWN BOOKS please advise and I will provide the support.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Rdej28pP4
Quote from: Peter on December 02, 2010, 06:42:14 AM
Nov 23
... lol all muslim countries what about south africa sorry that your man written words are banned we dont allow pornagraphy in our countries they are from satan
read your bible hunny its dangerous
ezekial 23
1The word of the Lord came to me: 2"Son of man, there were two women, daughters of the same mother. 3They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their youth. In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed. 4The older was named Oholah, and her sister was Oholibah. They were mine and gave birth to sons and daughters. Oholah is Samaria, and Oholibah is Jerusalem.
5"Oholah engaged in prostitution while she was still mine; and she lusted after her lovers, the Assyriansâ€"warriors 6clothed in blue, governors and commanders, all of them handsome young men, and mounted horsemen. 7She gave herself as a prostitute to all the elite of the Assyrians and defiled herself with all the idols of everyone she lusted after. 8She did not give up the prostitution she began in Egypt, when during her youth men slept with her, caressed her virgin bosom and poured out their lust upon her.
9"Therefore I handed her over to her lovers, the Assyrians, for whom she lusted. 10They stripped her naked, took away her sons and daughters and killed her with the sword. She became a byword among women, and punishment was inflicted on her.
11"Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was more depraved than her sister. 12She too lusted after the Assyriansâ€"governors and commanders, warriors in full dress, mounted horsemen, all handsome young men. 13I saw that she too defiled herself; both of them went the same way.
14"But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on a wall, figures of Chaldeansa portrayed in red, 15with belts around their waists and flowing turbans on their heads; all of them looked like Babylonian chariot officers, natives of Chaldea.b 16As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea. 17Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust. 18When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her nakedness, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. 19Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.c
22"Therefore, Oholibah, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will stir up your lovers against you, those you turned away from in disgust, and I will bring them against you from every sideâ€" 23the Babylonians and all the Chaldeans, the men of Pekod and Shoa and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them, handsome young men, all of them governors and commanders, chariot officers and men of high rank, all mounted on horses. 24They will come against you with weapons,d chariots and wagons and with a throng of people; they will take up positions against you on every side with large and small shields and with helmets. I will turn you over to them for punishment, and they will punish you according to their standards. 25I will direct my jealous anger against you, and they will deal with you in fury. They will cut off your noses and your ears, and those of you who are left will fall by the sword. They will take away your sons and daughters, and those of you who are left will be consumed by fire. 26They will also strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry. 27So I will put a stop to the lewdness and prostitution you began in Egypt. You will not look on these things with longing or remember Egypt anymore.
28"For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am about to hand you over to those you hate, to those you turned away from in disgust. 29They will deal with you in hatred and take away everything you have worked for. They will leave you naked and bare, and the shame of your prostitution will be exposed. Your lewdness and promiscuity 30have brought this upon you, because you lusted after the nations and defiled yourself with their idols. 31You have gone the way of your sister; so I will put her cup into your hand.
Dec 1
Dont Worry im not allowed to argue with you : )
But
Its
not christian for you to do this
5:82 Strongest among men in enmity to the believers
wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among
them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say,
"We are Christians": because amongst these are men
devoted to learning and men who have renounced the
world, and they are not arrogant.
5:83 And when they listen to the revelation received
by the Messenger, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with
tears, for they recognise the truth: they pray: "Our Lord!
we believe; write us down among the witnesses.
5:84 "What cause can we have not to believe in Allah
and the truth which has come to us, seeing that we long
for our Lord to admit us to the company of the righteous?"
5:85 And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded
them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their
eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do
good.
5:86 But those who reject Faith and belie our Signs,-
they shall be companions of Hell-fire.
Dec 1
The Muslims say" Peace to yo" ("Assalamu-Alaikum"), whenever they meet each other. The same does Jesus.Then, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled,[a] for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them, "Peace be with you." 21 So Jesus said to them again, "Peace to you! Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, "Peace to you!" John 20:19, 21, (New King James Version). 36 Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, "Peace to you." Luke 24:36 (New King James Version)
Jesus worships just like Muslims
39 He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, "O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will." Matthew 26:39 (New King James Version).
35 He went a little farther, and fell on the ground, and prayed that if it were possible, the hour might pass from Him. Mark 14:35 (New King James Version)
Jesus worships the Lord alone
Now it came to pass, as He was praying in a certain place (Luke11:1)10 Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you,[a] Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.'"[ Matthew 4:10 (New Kin .g James Version).
[Qur'an 1:5] " You alone we worship; You alone we ask for help". [3:50] "I (Jesus) confirm previous scripture - the Torah - and I revoke certain prohibitions imposed upon you. I come to you with sufficient proof from your Lord. Therefore, you shall observe GOD, and obey me.
[Qur'an 3:51] "GOD is my Lord and your Lord; you shall worship Him alone. This is the right path."
[Qur'an 43:63] When Jesus went with the proofs, he said, "I bring to you wisdom, and to clarify some of the matters in which you dispute. You shall reverence GOD and obey me.
Jesus's God is Alaha (Allah)
34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" which is translated, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" Mark 15:34 (New King James Version). Eloi means Alaha in the Aramic language and Allah in Arabic.
Jesus belived in Torah
Jesus believed in the TORAH as the Muslims do. 17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail. Luke 16:17 (New King James Version).
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 018: For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, until all is accomplished. 019: Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 020: For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven Matthew 5: 17 -- 20
Jesus never ate the swine
[for read-only participants regarding Mohammed styled prayer http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2119.msg9138#msg9138
of course any notions of Mohammed's followers observing anything but Mohammed's laws are ridiculous, particularly when Mohammed made his holy day on Friday instead of the Sabbath to insult the Jews http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2119.msg9258#msg9258 ]
Dec 1
Jesus tells Muhammad's coming
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12 "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.(John 16:7-15)
[Qur'an 61:6] Recall that Jesus, son of Mary, said, "O Children of Israel, I am GOD's messenger to you, confirming the Torah and bringing good news of a messenger to come after me whose name will be even more praised (Ahmad)." Then, when he showed them the clear proofs, they said, "This is profound magic."
The Christians do not believe in Muhammad.
[edit for forum read-only participants - how could a Christian believe in a 7th century false prophet that taught the exact opposite of the Gospel? Answer to Deedat's false Comforter teachings here http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=224.0 ]
12-1
The Prophets do not make idols or images like Muslims
Promise of Blessing and Retribution
1 'You shall not make idols for yourselves;
neither a carved image nor a sacred pillar (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=muslims+throw+stones+pillar&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=83f87efc6f926f13) shall you rear up for yourselves;
nor shall you set up an engraved stone in your land, to bow down to it;
for I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 26:1 (New King James Version)
21 "You shall not plant for yourself any tree, as a wooden image, near the altar which you build for yourself to the LORD your God. 22 You shall not set up a sacred pillar (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=muslims+throw+stones+pillar&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=83f87efc6f926f13), which the LORD your God hates. Deuteronomy 16:21-22 (New King James Version)
Who is Israel ?(according to the Bible)
Jakob's name was changed to Israel after his wrestling with en angel
28 And He said, "Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel;[a]for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed." Genesis 32:28 (New King James Version)
Who are the Jews?
Judah was nicknamed "Jew". The descendantds of Jacob are Israelites consisting of the twelve tribes. So that only Judah's descendants wer called jews originally.
Who is Moses ?
Moses was the "Law-giver" to the children of Israel.Torah is Law and the Jews / Christians believe that its five Books are written by Moses himself.
Was Moses a Jew ? (according to the Bible)
Moses was descended from Levite. He was not a Jew because he was not descended from Judah.
16 These are the names of the sons of Levi according to their generations: Gershon, Kohath, and Merari... 18 And the sons of Kohath were Amram, Izhar, Hembron, and Uzziel.
20 Now Amram took for himself Jochebed, his father's sister, as wife; and she bore him Aaron and Moses. Exodus 6:16, 18, 20 (New King James Version).
Moses was not Jew.
Genesis 12:4-5 (New International Version)
4 So Abram left, as the LORD had told him; and Lot went with him. Abram was seventy-five years old when he set out from Haran. 5 He took his wife Sarai, his nephew Lot, all the possessions they had accumulated and the people they had acquired in Haran, and they set out for the land of Canaan, and they arrived there(Genesis 12:4-5).
[edit for read-only participants - always interesting when Muslims bring up the subject of idolatry since they prostrate themselves toward the Quraish's black stone idol 5 times a day - addressed later on http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2119.msg9131#msg9131 ]
12-1
And im not satan ok!
Dec 1
[[[And im not satan ok!]]]]]
I never said you were Satan, my friend.
Even Mohammed taught that Satan is the greatest of schemers.
Do you really believe that those that have been deceived by Satan realize that they have been?
Regarding all of the false presumptions and proof-texted nonsense, we have a whole section that covers that Ahmed Deedat - Greek sophist styled foolishness in the forum.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=33.0
But you can set all your wishful hoping regarding Mohammed in scripture aside, because only one thing matters, my friend.
As a follower of Mohammed you are required to deny the blood that would save you. The sacrifice of the Lamb of God.
Why do you suppose the Messiah's name "Yeshua" means YHWH saves? Saves us from what?
You deny the sacrifice of the Lamb of God even though the crucifixion of the Messiah was prophesied many hundreds of years in advance in the Old Testament.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1007.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bge80vsa4YE
[[[R u teaching me islam and what my religions says lol U r mean by the way Im not......u do a dishonor to christians everywhere dude seriously !]]]]]
Are you saying that you accept the blood that Jesus shed for you?
Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
From the Quran.
Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
You see, my friend, that single verse rejects the primary subject of the Gospel. The subject of the new covenant we were brought through Jesus Christ.
So what part did I get wrong? Surely you can see that Mohammed taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rtYAO3UxA
[[[[Dude blood that will save me man that kinda stuff scares me satan worshippers do human sacrifice plz dont say such things!]]]]
What do you suppose the alter in Solomon's temple was for?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=519.0
[[[[Paul is a deceiver dude they warn about him ........]]]]
But it isn't about Paul. You reject the Gospel to follow Mohammed, who denied Jesus' crucifixion over 500 years after the eyewitnesses testified to the fact.
Matthew 27:35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
Mark 15:24 And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take.
Luke 24:20 And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.
John 19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also [his] coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.
Just as it was prophesied so many hundreds of years in advance.
Psalms 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look [and] stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
[[[[[........... in most of the banned gospels i grew up with all christians the nicest people in the world but they do also have there black sheep but i ignored them add me on facebook
zes--- faro---!]]]]
12-1
From faroo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU
From Peter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80TyYivFsVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rtYAO3UxA
12-1
From faroo
LOL u have no idea who ur talking to do u!
[[[And for saying: "We killed the Christ, Jesus, son of Mary, who was an apostle of God;" but they neither killed nor crucified him, though it so appeared to them. Those who disagree in the matter are only lost in doubt. They have no knowledge about it other than conjecture, for surely they did not kill him,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU
Its Allah defending jesus have u read the thalmud!]]]]]
Sorry but that's Mohammed's alter-ego "Allah" calling Jesus a liar.
See what I mean? You have to reject Jesus sacrifice for us to follow Mohammed.
There is not a single mainstream sect of Judaism that does not believe Jesus was killed. And of course a person couldn't be a Christian without believing that Jesus was crucified because that is what the Gospel is all about.
So why don't you tell me who you believe died on the cross.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=628.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1QPjbzdnlo
12-1
What did u think of the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU
[[[What did u think of the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU]]]]]
What value does a willful unregenerate provide to our chat?
Of what importance does the Talmud serve since even the Jews do not consider it inspired?
You are trying to run and hide from the truth. And that truth is in Jesus Christ, my friend.
That's why you never answered my question regarding why the Messiah's name "Yeshua" means YHWH saves, delivers or rescues.
Rescues us from what?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua_%28name%29#Etymology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8cnOoXBhA
[[[[Not through his blood but his teachings his original teachings did u watch the video they till today say in boast we killed jesus and Allah defends him theres not one verse that insults jesus ........]]]]]
That single verse blasphemes Jesus and rejects the whole Gospel. But that certainly isn't the only reason we can judge Mohammed's inspiration. First we were warned about who Mohammed met in that cave.
2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Yet even Mohammed identified the spirit as a jinn-demon until his wife talked him out of it.
Another way we can tell is Satan, through Mohammed, filled his followers with the spirit of antichrist.
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:
[[[[........ dude u guys cant ignore islam anymore 2 billion and growing faster than christians without our own missionaries even after 9 11 we grew more and more but its ok .......]]]]
Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE [IS] THE GATE, AND BROAD [IS THE WAY, THAT LEADETH TO DESTRUCTION, and many there be which go in thereat:
[[[[[........ im not hiding or runneing]]]]]
Then why didn't you answer who you believe died on the cross?
Why didn't you answer why the Messiah's name means YHWH rescues, saves, delivers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8cnOoXBhA
[[[Psalm 2:7 and John 3:16 are contradictions the book NOT THE ORIGINAL GOSPEL OF JESUS
The Gospel according to you is rejecting itself who it the first or second begotten not made that is blasphemous .......]]]]]
To Mohammed's followers that is blasphemy. It isn't even logical to deny it. If God didn't beget Jesus then who is responsible for Mary conceiving Jesus? Who was Jesus' Father, Mary? There are hundreds of verses that attest that God is Jesus' Father but you have to deny the Gospel to follow Mohammed.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=610.0
[[[[....... that u say God Begot a Son
112:1 Say: "He is God, the One,"
112:2 "God, the Absolute,"
112:3 "He does not beget, nor was He begotten,"
112:4 "And there is none who are His equal."]]]]]
God's Spirit is God and Jesus IS God. All God. Nothing higher or lower. The same.
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=43.0
Even you believe that Mohammed's "Allah" has a spirit yet you can't even see that makes you a polytheistic hypocrite by your own measure.
Sura 38:72 "When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of MY SPIRIT, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
[[[[OK
Get with it God Is not the author of contradictions or pornography ezekiel 23 and many others .......]]]]]
All you are saying is you don't want to try to understand ancient metaphors because you would rather blaspheme YHWH to follow Mohammed.
After all these centuries why do you suppose it is that no Jewish scribes chose to censor the more controversial parts of the Old Testament?
Because they couldn't and conform to Hebrew scribal protocol. It helps show us that the scriptures have been handed down to us very much intact.
Here's a YouTube regarding Ezekeiel 23 but you won't even watch it because you don't really care about doing anything but rejecting Jesus to follow Mohammed.
That's why you are mucking about in the old covenant trying to create reasons to reject YHWH.
You march around with a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas as though it's your answer, when you obviously never even read it.
Did you ever even read the Gospel of John?
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm
How about John's First Epistle that Ahmed Deedat claimed proves Mohammed to be a true prophet and not antichrist? These links are to the same version he used to quote from. Have you even enough critical thinking ability left to read it and decide for yourself? To decide if Deedat was right or wrong?
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/first_epistle_john.htm
[[[[......... and He is definitely not the author of lies i accept the truth about my religion but i diffrenciate it with the people of the religion ok get with it and im not a mohammadan k im a MUSLIM one who submits to The One God
HEar o israel You lord our God is absolute ONE AND ONLY
NOT ONE IN THREE OR THREE IN ONE]]]]
But you don't have to follow Mohammed's blasphemy to understand that. It only takes a little effort.
By the measure you apply to Christians you already believe in 2 Gods.
Sura 32:9 But HE fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something OF HIS SPIRIT. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding): little thanks do ye give!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRE1mg9j3Xo
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[[[And how dare u insult Gabriel and call him a Jinn and Demon ......]]]]]
That's what Mohammed himself called him. Then his wife talked him out of it. Don't you even know the story?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNbzevID550
Of course Mohammed's subsequent unwitnessed "revelations", unfulfilled prophecy, and failure to even perform a single miracle, demonstrate that he was guided by Satan because he WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ through ALL of His witnesses. Let alone when we see how Islam's books portray his character.
[[[[[....... how dare you Y cant we live in peace bro Y Y Y
I dont understand man ppl like u all like minded bigots and anti semetics just keep attacking us Y Y Y]]]]]
Please show me where I attacked you.
See how you turn to false accusation?
You desire to make this about you and I, rather than about the 1600 year record of YHWH through ALL of His prophets and witnesses that you reject, to follow the 23 year record of a.....
Quran Sura 33:50-51 "O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ...
Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
Sahih Muslim Book 8:3431: "It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a captive woman after she is purified (of menses or delivery) in case she has a husband, her marriage is abrogated after she becomes captive.
..... 7th century prisoner rapist.
And you complain about the metaphor in Ezekiel 23!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRE1mg9j3Xo
[[[Yashwah is not the same as Yahwah and God cannot .......]]]]
See? That's your problem. You believe you can assign to God what He can and cannot do. Yet the only reason you try to is because you follow the STAND-ALONE 7th century 23 year record of A SINGLE "prophet" with no fulfilled prophecy, that not a single person ever heard his "Allah" or Gabriel's voice give a single revelation to.
Who witnessed Mohammed's night time ride on his Baraq?
Not a soul, yet you believe it.
None of the Zoroastrians from whom Mohammed copied his flying animal ever claimed to personally ride on it. They believed their FABLED prophet rode to the place where his immortal ancestors dwelled on the flying camel.
Nor do I think any of the Greeks claimed to ride on Pegasus.
Indeed after Mohammed told his tall tale, even many 7th century illiterate Arabian desert dwellers had enough sense to leave Islam.
What mosque do you suppose Mohammed claimed he prayed in when he rode his fabled flying animal to Jerusalem?
[[[[[........ be incarnate then die thn complain to himself my god my god y have u forsaken me and then resurrect then he comes back did u know its in the Quran that hes coming back!]]]]
That certainly wouldn't be all that Mohammed lifted from scripture with the help of Jabr, and his tri-lingual secretary and various wives, concubines and slaves. Many had some Christian and Jewish backgrounds. Like this captive that he raped.
Tabari VIII:38 "The Prophet selected for himself from among the Jewish women of the Qurayza, Rayhanah bt. Amr. She became his concubine. When he predeceased her, she was still in his possession. When the Messenger of Allah took her as a captive, she showed herself averse to Islam and insisted on Judaism."
Of course that was after beheading all the innocent boys and men.
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1528.0
Do you really think that YHWH would contradict His 1600 year record to instead reveal Himself through such a man?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e_MzCUa1nU
[[[[if a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head.
Where is this from google it if u have to!]]]]
It's from scripture.
1Cr 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
If you look at 50 year old pictures of a church congregation you will see that ALL of the women had their heads covered. Breaking these rules are why there are difficulties with the institutional church today.
What else does it say?
1Cr 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head.
What about the Roman church pope and your imams? The EXACT OPPOSITE.
What about prayer?
Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Same thing with the Roman church and Islam there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb7wevMCjWE
[[[[You guys dont follow the Bible u break the first commandment .......]]]]
Even you know in your heart that this is a lie. And your lie is easily exposed through the Gospel.
Mark 12:29 ... The Lord our God is one Lord: ... 32 ... for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
But Christians are to expect false accusers in these times
2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be...boasters, proud, blasphemers...3 Without natural affection...false accusers...despisers of those that are good...8 ...so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
[[[[[....... and at solomons alter they did human sacrifices!]]]]]]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb7wevMCjWE
[[[LOL u have no idea who ur talking to do u!]]]]
I just noticed this as I transcribed our chat.
Who AM I talking to?
Why don't you fill me in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8cnOoXBhA
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Wow that explains nothing You don't even know the definition of begotten and its so weird a 1400 yr old book still stands for itself today that you ppl use the same words
The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.
Quran - 3:59
For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son.
Quran - 19:92
Its the Gospel according to or maybe John not john himself they threw out all the Gospels and burned them kinda like the Quran and its Dialects Uthman did the same but there werent different versions and narratives and stories so uthman authorized under supervision that he would unify one message and add the vowels....but the bible had different narratives different versions and the dead sea scrolls that are being found eveywhere prooves it i gotta read those i think ill buy the book today!
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Where is Jesus insulted literally insulted in any way the thalmud insults him PBUH !
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What about 1 timothy 5:23 Where paul (the false prohet the deceiver according to the banned gospels) is telling timothy to break the commandment to drink stong drinks!!!!!!!
And u havent answered psalm 2:7 and John 3:16
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First of all VAIN AND HEATHEn plz look these words up and get back to me and dont Take definitions out of context i want full definitions !
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Lol ur one of those arent u Soon You will know The truth when The massih isaa ibn Maryam Comes back before the Hour have no doubt about it!
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This isnt the right place to Chat I want to know how people like u think and why you think in such a way.......What do u think of the revised standard edition of the bible!
Dec 2
[[[[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYMKQKSV0bY&feature=channel ]]]]
Why would you rely on children that are wet behind the ears? Particularly one that claimed he read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John but then denies the whole subject of the Gospel which is the crucifixion, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, solely because of Mohammed.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1175.0
Particularly one so foolish as to believe that he follows any laws - other than Mohammed's laws - when even his holy day is on Friday instead of the Sabbath.
[[[LOL u have no idea who ur talking to do u!]]]]
So who AM I talking to?
Why don't you fill me in. An Imam? Perhaps a Mufti like my old buddy np?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=361.0
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The reason Satan put that fake boogieman doctrine in Islam, as well as the institutional church, is so that folks like you would be distracted into chasing a boogieman, when the chase and battle should be internal - inside of you.))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
lol!!!!! this is your opinion
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THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB IS PRACTICED BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT YOUR LAMB IS A HUMAN WE SACRIFICE LAMBS ON BAKARA EID!
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Y U SO FUNNY LOL!
[Faro]
Neither the Jews, nor the Christians, will accept you, unless you follow their religion.
Say, "GOD's guidance is the true guidance." If you acquiesce to their wishes, despite the knowledge you have received, you will find no ally or supporter to help you against GOD. Quran - 2:120
Those who received the scripture, and know it as it should be known, will believe in this. As for those who disbelieve, they are the losers.
Quran - 2:121
Forget i wanted to add you i thought we could all unite but then again this is more challenging than i thought
What type of christian should i become the anglican the protestant the catholics the mormons the jehovah witnesses the baptists You all have different ways different teaching different versions of the Bible some books u keep some you
But then again the Quran says
Neither the Jews, nor the Christians, will accept you, unless you follow their religion.
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It would be easy if a man or a supposed begotten son of God Died for my sins
my five daily prayers my fasting i don't drink i don't party i stay away from women..... and temptation you want me to give that up and true salvation and believe that My holy mighty hero of a prophet jesus Died for my Sins you blaspheme God's messenger man and thats sad he came to save indeed he saves through HIS HIS HIS HIS teachings not matthew mark luke and John HIS HIS HIS true teachings are hidden from you by the romans!
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Lester Seekthetruth Butler ive been reading a lot of what u post and this is one of the most revealing and interesting. to me it made more since that lots wife would have been destroyed in the cities instead of looking back and turned into a pillar of salt. as i read the bible account i thought to myself like, maybe she was left behind for some reason, or she went back for some reason, then reading the Quran's account i was like this seems more realisic to me.
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This is what my friend said on FB a christian im going to give him ahmed deedats videos all of them and if God wills he will revert to islam You cant stop it dude!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF84KS40HEw
Watch this!
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By the way that was me LOL :)
did u add me thats an old pic of me!
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http://www.arrivals.technocrazed.com/episode-16-the-media-and-islam
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http://www.arrivals.technocrazed.com/episode-16-the-media-and-islam
Watch this dude! :)
@brotherjw HOLY GHOST IS GOD AS YOU CHRISTAN SAYS IF HOLY GHOST CME AGAIN NOT WITH JESUS BECAUSE JESUS DIED SO HE CAME FOR WHAT..? SO SECOND GOD COME RIGHT..? AS YOU CHIRISTAN SAID.. BUT HOLY GHOST SAID ABOUT MOHAMMD PUBHU.. NOT YOUR HUMAN GOD WHICH JESUS COMMON WAKE UP..... OTHERWISE TOO LATE FOR YOU IF YOU WANT CHALLENGE WITH ME I WILL DO FOR YOU JUST ANSWER ME THE BELOW VERSE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwcKcvcvEfM
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[[[[Dude we muslims are not your enemys the antichrist massih addajjal is our enemy satan is our enemy .......]]]]
If you want to fight antichrist, you are going to have to start at home, my friend.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER
[[[[......... we need to unite brotherjw that is the true spirit we both belive in God right ......]]]]]
No. You believe in Mohammed's alter-ego "Allah" while I believe in YHWH as His NAME is mentioned nearly 7,000 times in scripture.
[[[[[ ....... we believe in jesus in different ways ........]]]]]
Sorry again, but you believe the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel.
[[[[[........ but the messiah the son of man ........]]]]
The same "Son of man" that fulfilled Daniel's prophecy from hundreds of years before.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2122.0
[[[[[........ just not the begotten son of God have you read alex crowleys book dude y dont the polythiests fight each other like we do here this is from revelations and the quran and some strong hadith about the anti christ instead of attacking us we must attack the foundations for the antichrist ........]]]]
I attack the institutional church for teaching it's scripturally unsupportable fictional heresy of suggesting a single antichrist. It certainly isn't what the scriptures teach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w71CtxLdjio
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/antichrist.htm
The reason Satan put that fake boogieman doctrine in Islam, as well as the institutional church, is so that folks like you would be distracted into chasing a boogieman, when the chase and battle should be internal - inside of you.
[[[[.......b4 we all suffer man its up to you im done arguing with u about this matter itll lead no where k PEACE BE UPON YOU AKHI
http://www.arrivals.technocrazed.com/episode-34-the-infiltration-of-religion ]]]]]
As long as you reject the blood of the Lamb of God nothing else matters, my friend.
We are not struggling together. We are on OPPOSITE SIDES. Sorry my friend, but that's just the way it is. I am a follower of Jesus Christ.
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[[Add me on facebook zeshan farooqi k :)]]]]
I see. When you declared
[[[LOL u have no idea who ur talking to do u!]]]]
I read an air of self-importance and hoped I had another opportunity to chat with a Mufti, or at least an Imam.
I don't have time for facebook, but I can offer a medium that is far superior to that for organizing and keeping a record of our chat. Earlier you wrote...
"This isnt the right place to Chat I want to know how people like u think and why you think in such a way.......What do u think of the revised standard edition of the bible!"
I couldn't agree more. The forum offers an opportunity for us to quote each other, post live links, link to individual posts, perform easy and thorough subject searches, and generally hold each other accountable.
All we ask is that members engage in an EXCHANGE.
I will post the last half dozen or so posts of yours in there, after our earlier Q&A that I already put in there, and will answer them using the quote function in the forum. I think you will find it far superior to any other venue.
If you like you can log in using any ID that you wish if you are concerned about compromising your YouTube or facebook identity. I can change the ID (already partially masked) in the existing thread to whatever you choose.
Let's have a real discussion, my friend.
Oh yea. Regarding the RSV it is a pop-New Age version of the bible, based on a corrupt 19th century Greek text, written by 2 guys from England - Westcott and Hort.
Pop into the forum and I will tell you all about it! I look forward to seeing you there my friend. Let's explore together where the truth is.
There is a link to the forum on all of my videos as well as many links to it on my channel comments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj0IpDUu--w
[[[[Add me on facebook zeshan farooqi k :)]]]]
I signed up just to see your channel. There are 6 zeshan farooqi.
I signed up as Pete Waldo. I think there is only one of those.
Why don't you add me so I can see who you are.
Meanwhile why don't you friend this zeshan farooqi and see what he has to say.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001712001108&ref=ts#!/profile.php?id=100001486682883
Meanwhile I transcribed out PM chat into the forum and masked your ID.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2119.0
Why don't you select a single point that was not addressed and I will address that. Then I will do the same. Sound OK?
Like I said before, use any user ID that you want, and I will edit the existing posts to that identity, and who you are will remain between you and I.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rtYAO3UxA
[[[[Who denieth Jesus is the Christos meaning the messiah who is MASSIH IBN MARYAM JESUSSSSSSSSSS SO WE DONT DENY HIM WE ARENT THE ANTICHRIST!]]]]]
Let's try the verse again and read it to the end this time. Try to get Ahmed Deedat's phony homemade verse out of your head.
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...
You see my friend, it isn't about what you wish it were, but about what it IS.
There are only 4 verses that contain the term.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/antichrist.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_A
[[[we dont view it that way ......]]]]]
That's right. You view it by the way of the 23 year, 7th century, STAND-ALONE record of the false prophet Mohammed.
[[[[[........ God cannot .......]]]]
See what I mean? You think you can dictate what YHWH can and cannot do, just like Mohammed did. That's what makes you a Mohammedan.
[[[[[......... beget a son .....]]]]
Even as you fully agree that God is responsible for Mary's pregnancy.
[[[[[...... and you never answered my other posts!????]]]]
There's no point when you've ignored my replies to your other post. Just like you did the last one.
According to the Bible are you an antichrist or not? Yes or no?
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...
What else does God make you? Remember my friend, these aren't my words.
1John 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.
And your reward?
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.
I've simply been sent to warn you about what a bunch of liars you have been brainwashed by, even if that wasn't their intent. They were all brainwashed themselves.
Why don't you try reading the Bible some time?
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8cnOoXBhA
[[[[ummmmm my other msgs about porn in the bible does God speak like that yes or no and do u think making a video insulting someone anyone willl aloow you to goto into the kingdom]]]]
What video insults someone? Watch the video again.
I am reporting the news that Deedat appreciated the Cape Town Muslims for being the most militant Muslims in Africa. Those of us in civilized societies don't much appreciate militant Muslims. Maybe you do.
The video further points out that Mohammed and his religion is THE OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ and the Gospel. So where's the insult?
[[[[Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:21
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:22
But I will reply, 'I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God's laws.'
Matthew 7:23]]]]
So why do you ignore the Sabbath and instead have Mohammed's "holy day" on Friday?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e_MzCUa1nU
[[[^^^^^^^ pay attention is what your doing righteous YES OR NO YES OR NO
NO Its not its unrighteous ok!]]]]]
How can I show my love for Muslims better than to help you overcome their false prophet Mohammed?
If I didn't love you why would I bother, let alone engage in the activity full time? It's because I am desperate for you, my friend. I already showed you the consequences. But here is why God did what He did.
1Jo 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world. 15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sk3fKY9PhY
[[[Matthew 7:12]]]]
That's a great verse. What follows?
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Weren't you the one boasting about the big numbers of those that follow Mohammed?
What's the very next verse?
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Now look at the prior verse again.
"...narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life..."
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sk3fKY9PhY
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[[[[[Ye shall know them by their fruit!]]]]
Exactly!
Whether the rape, pillage and plunder of the imperialistic slaughter of the Islamic first Jihad, or the Islamic Mufti of Jerusalem and 2 Islamic Panzer divisions in Hitler's army, advancing Hitler's goal of genocide of Jews.
In Saudia Arabia 15 girls were killed because Islamic religious police sent them back into a burning school for trying to emerge from the burning building without head coverings.
"The English-language Saudi Gazette, in a front-page report yesterday quoted witnesses as saying that members of the religious police stopped men who tried to help the girls escape from the building, saying: 'It is sinful to approach them.'"
http://www.islamfortoday.com/saudi01.htm
"A civil defense officer told an Arabic-language newspaper, al-Eqtisadiah, that he saw three members of the religious police "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya"."
In the U.S. "Mo Hassan, founder of Bridges TV, a station whose mission was "fostering understanding between cultures and diverse populations," cut off the head of his wife, Aasiya Hassan, 37, who had recently filed for divorce." NBC originally reporting on it now remaining considerably silent about it. Local TV - Fox - more
"Rand Abdel-Qader, 17, was killed by her father after falling in love with a British soldier"
Though she had no sexual relations with the man, she told a girlfriend she was in love with him. When her father found out he threw her down, stood on her neck and started to stab her to death. Her brothers came running to help, but when their father told them what he found out, they helped him kill her.
That was just one of over 81 women "honor" killed in Basra for the year, by November 2008.
With over 16,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
With over 2 million killed - so far - in the Sudan alone.
In Indonesia 3 teenage girls were beheaded on their way to their Christian school and one of their heads left on the steps of a Church. The note left behind reads: "We will murder 100 more Christian teenagers and their heads will be presented as presents."
"Once again, women are the targets. In mid-March, rebels assaulted three women gathering firewood and cut off their ears, lips, and breasts."
"Eyewitness accounts detailing the militia attacks are horrifying. "They killed my 3-year-old son right in front of my eyes," one father from West Darfur said. Since last fall, women have reported more than 500 rapes. Three women said five militiamen beat and raped them last August. The women said, "After they abused us, they told us that now we would have Arab babies. And, if they would find any [more] women, they would rape them again to change the color of their children.""
AP - December 06, 2006 MOGADISHU, Somalia - "Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day will be beheaded, an Islamic courts official said Wednesday, adding the edict will be implemented in three days."
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/great_tribulation.htm
Forum section "Christians and Jews Persecuted & Martyred by the Beast and Others"
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=51.0
Muslim on Muslim Murder, Mayhem, and Misery
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=54.0
Hitler and the Mufti
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sk3fKY9PhY
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[[[[[The video you made of ahmed deedat when he was trying to talk back to the little girl who was thanking himm for his service it makes me really upset he was so desperate to talk to her and your making fun of him!]]]]]]
I don't know what video you are talking about. The one where I pictured him in bed while the Muslim visiting him tells him why he was so beloved there "I went to Capetown and I told them what you said about the Capetown Muslims, the most militant Muslims in Africa."
I don't think you understand what condition he was in. Why don't you try the drop down menu on the video.
Deedat never stopped blaspheming YHWH the whole time. He communicated with eye blinks. Look at this video of him with his adoring disciple and fellow antichrist Naik, as they muse over their shared blasphemy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2EIEpBbTfg
Or by "little girl" did you mean the video attached.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKMMr4lZx2E
[[[[What you doing is clearly unrighteous and you dont even know it
In the name of Allah Most gracious most merciful
!8:48 And the devil adorned their work for them...]]]]
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
[[[[[8:49 The hypocrites and those who have a disease in their hearts said: "These people have been deceived by their system."
Listen To what this verse is saying about people like you he has made your deeds fair seeming to you thats y you say its righteous what you do
PEACE BE UPON YOU DUDE AND MAY ALLAH HELP AND GUIDE BOTH ME AND YOU!]]]]]
My friend let's see who is "deceived by their system".
Seems you've lost the ability to judge what a "diseased heart" is. Let me help you from your own books.
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
Ishaq:465 "Then the Apostle divided the property, wives, and children of the Qurayza among the Muslims. Allah's Messenger took his fifth of the booty. He made known on that day the extra shares for horses and their riders - giving the horse two shares and the rider one. A Muslim without a horse got one share of the spoil. It was the first booty in which lots were cast."
Tabari VIII:38 "The Prophet selected for himself from among the Jewish women of the Qurayza, Rayhanah bt. Amr. She became his concubine. When he predeceased her, she was still in his possession. When the Messenger of Allah took her as a captive, she showed herself averse to Islam and insisted on Judaism."
So Mohammed had the innocent Jewish boys brought before him and slaughtered by beheading in front of their mothers, and then he and his boys raped their sisters and mothers pressing them into sexual slavery, selling the older discards and small children off into slavery, while stealing all of their property.
The behavior all codified by your own books. Why do you think Muslims engage in the very same behavior in Africa today? Slavery will never be unlawful among Mohammed's true followers.
Quran Sura 33:50-51 "O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ...
Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
Sahih Muslim Book 8:3431: "It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a captive woman after she is purified (of menses or delivery) in case she has a husband, her marriage is abrogated after she becomes captive.
Mohammed makes Hitler look like a choir boy. He was perhaps the most evil and black hearted person in the history of humanity.
Even promising his fellow rapists for their efforts, a "paradise" of chicken, wine and virgins to defile!
Do you really think that is what heaven is like my friend?
Why do you suppose fresh running water is the most frequently mentioned element in Mohammed's heaven? Do you think that might have appealed to a 7th century southwest Arabian desert dweller that lived in one of the driest places Arabia?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEfKpgiYgHY
I'll reply to this one directly in the forum so you can see how nicely our conversation can be organized.
If you aren't afraid, why not join me here?
The forum keeps an excellent, and handy, record of our chat in it's entirety. The search function works great.
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AM
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Well Thank you for insulting and making fun of My deceased uncle its nice too look at family in Pain :( ......
I wonder why you didn't mention he was your uncle earlier, since your uncle was such a large part of this conversation. Perhaps trying to set up a gottcha? As one of his followers you would be well practiced at dissimulation.
Is that what you were alluding to earlier when you said "LOL u have no idea who ur talking to do u!"
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2119.msg8877#msg8877
Why weren't you honest with me until this PM?
Perhaps you forgot the power of truth.
Hitler is dead and had a family too. Does that mean we are supposed to honor him?
1. Your uncle chose to be a very public figure.
2. His bible-ignorant minions continue to upload his lies, which will of course, continue to make him fair game. Do you really think his lies should go unchallenged just because he is no longer with us?
3. For as long as he is on the internet Scripture will continue to expose his lies.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=335.0
4. Even after so many pastors and scholars tried to correct him, he ignored them and his blasphemy never stopped, just as yours. That's because Mohammed's followers follow the father of lies - Satan.
5. As I already showed you, according to scripture, he was antichrist, just like the false prophet Mohammed. The tragedy is that your uncle helped so many down the road to perdition with his lies against YHWH and phony bible verse. Here is the truth.
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and
the Son. 23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/antichrist.htm
What else does that make him.
1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself:
he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not
the record that God gave of his Son.Those aren't my words, my friend. We can see that Mohammed's 7th century religion teaches the EXACT OPPOSITE.
ONE MUST CHOOSE, between the 1600 year record of YHWH to mankind that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years, or the STAND-ALONE 23 year 7th century record of Mohammed in which a whopping 71 out of only 114 suras are subject to abrogation.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0
Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
PM reply 12-7
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2119.msg8992#msg8992
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AM...... and on top of that you call it righteous good luck ......
Please show me where. Our whole conversation is recorded in this thread. Or from where else? What I cite when the subject comes up is
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Though the timing of Deedat's Easter Sunday blasphemy just before he was stricken does give one pause to wonder.
You see, you follow the typical pattern of Mohammed's followers. Once you realize that the evidence against Mohammed's STAND-ALONE 7th century religious invention is overwhelming you turn to little more than false accusation while blaspheming the record of YHWH. But that's just as it should be.
2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be...boasters, proud, blasphemers...3 Without natural affection...false accusers...despisers of those that are good...8 ...so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
But no matter how much you blaspheme YHWH, it will never magically create thousands of years of history for Mecca, out of thin air. It will never make Mohammed a better man that YOUR OWN BOOKS show that he was.
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AM...... with you mission of reverting muslims i bet you wont put this msg or the Pornography in the bible msg on your blog..............
Why would I abandon truth?
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AM................. You know what im gonna do im in the process of reverting .......
"revert" is a felonious term used by some of Mohammed's proselytizers who haven't yet learned that Mecca didn't exist before the 4th century AD.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/
NOBODY is BORN a Muslim any more than they are born Christian. We are BORN gentiles if we aren't born Jews.
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AM........ some people im gonna show them this video you made about my deceased unlce and im gonna tell them look how people treat the truth and look how they react to it ........... then im gonna Show them your inbox msgs (oh by the way there christians) ........
Why don't you bring them here and show them
the whole conversation - every word -
inbox and outbox? Please be sure not to leave out my last PM to you (http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2119.msg8990#msg8990). If you do otherwise it is nothing more than Islamic dissimulation - taqiyyah.
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AM........ i cried when i saw your video and these future revert loe ahmed deedat and ive showed them ALL ALL ALL ALL his videos and his msg is the same in all of them
Indeed he was consistent with his blasphemy via Mohammed.
When you "revert" the poor folks that make false claims to being Christians (though they don't know it) to a 7th century religion, by showing them lies, all you can expect that they will be following is the father of lies.
But you won't correct your uncles lies any more than he did after being corrected so many times, and even though I have proven it to you and you haven't refuted it.
I could give him the benefit of the doubt and believe it was a mistake, if he hadn't repeated it in many venues, and particularly since it formed
THE WHOLE BASIS of his whole felonious claim. Try it again. There are 2 separate venues linked to at this link.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=335.0
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and
the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/antichrist.htm
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AM
So even if ahmed deedat made a mistake they know that he corrects it in other video .......
He was corrected too many times to pretend his lies were mistakes. It was nothing more than the very same brainwashing lies you are attempting to proselytize with.
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AM...... oh yea thanks again for insulting my uncle .......
It is the truth that insults your uncle, my friend.
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AM....... by the way i can use this to my advantage now :)
Please invite all of your "reverts" to come here. If you fail to show both sides of our chat, you are no less of a liar than your late uncle was. It would be nothing more than the rest of the dissimulation (taqiyyah) that you are feeding the poor folks that are bible-ignorant enough to listen to you.
Same reason Bibles are banned in Islam controlled countries. So only one side of the story is presented. That's also why Muslims that come to know the love of the one true God through Jesus Christ, are killed as "apostates", in Islamic countries. Their peace and joy presents too much of a danger to Muslims.
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AMMay the Peace and Blessing of allah be with you
.......... GOD OR YHWH IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF PORN OR CONTRADICTIONS k
30And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
Gen19:31And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PORN
32Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 33And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 34And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>INCEST
35And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 36Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father
So why do you suppose it is, that after thousands of years, scribes didn't erase the more difficult passages recorded from mankind's early beginnings? How is it that the historical accounts contained in the Old Testament didn't get sanitized? What that tells us is that the record is true. Mohammedan claims of corruption of scripture ring hollow on that note. Why don't you bother to study something before you blaspheme YHWH? The reason is because you follow the father of lies, through his false prophet Mohammed, and your own uncle.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=97.0
The account you proof-text is from mankind's early beginnings. But the fact of the matter is that
Saudi Gov & Heath Care Officials Agree Inbreeding is a Huge Muslim Problem - TODAY. That's because inbreeding is a codified accepted Islamic practice that even your own prophet practiced, and a burden to the western welfare states, that Muslims choose to move to and degenerate in.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1844.msg7612#msg7612
"In some parts of Saudi Arabia, particularly in the south, where Mrs. Hefthi was raised, the rate of marriage among blood relatives ranges from 55 to 70 percent, among the highest rates in the world, according to the Saudi government."
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1844.msg7481#msg7481
"Nicolai Sennels is a Danish psychologist who has done extensive research into a little-known problem in the Muslim world: the disastrous results of Muslim inbreeding brought about by the marriage of first-cousins.
This practice, which has been prohibited in the Judeo-Christian tradition since the days of Moses, was sanctioned by Muhammad and has been going on now for 50 generations (1,400 years) in the Muslim world.""According to Sennels, close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred. In Pakistan, the numbers approach 70%. Even in England, more than half of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins, and in Denmark the number of inbred Pakistani immigrants is around 40%.
The numbers are equally devastating in other important Muslim countries: 67% in Saudi Arabia, 64% in Jordan and Kuwait, 63% in Sudan, 60% in Iraq, and 54% in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.
According to the BBC, this Pakistani, Muslim-inspired inbreeding is thought to explain the probability that a British Pakistani family is more than 13 times as likely to have children with recessive genetic disorders. While Pakistanis are responsible for three percent of the births in the UK, they account for 33% of children with genetic birth defects."
For folks that are honestly seeking truth, better to click the following link to view a Q&A with a sweet Muslim gal on her quest, rather than the prior bare knuckled exchange with one of Mohammed's proselytizers/Deedat's disciples.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=707.0
If any read-only participants out there would like an answer to any unanswered point in this thread, that you can't readily find an already existing answer to using the forum search function, please just register, and ask.
Quote the panel, or part of the panel that you would like a response to, and I will do my best.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=39.0
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Im gonna show them the video in a lil ill ask them !
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 12:47:47 PM
12-7
Im gonna show them the video in a lil ill ask them !
Are you afraid to show them our whole conversation?
12-7
http://www.youtube.com/user/CompleteHolyQuran
Its the complete holy Quran read it@
Quote from: Peter on December 07, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
12-7
http://www.youtube.com/user/CompleteHolyQuran
Its the complete holy Quran read it@
My favorite part is Mohammed's purely carnal chicken and wine serving bordello that he called "paradise".
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=264.0
We have lots of good interactive Quran and Hadith resources.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=609.0
Remember what i said and dont bother deleting the video i downloaded it and ill use it in my missionary k Dont even stress it :)
Quote from: Peter on December 08, 2010, 05:29:06 AM
Remember what i said and dont bother deleting the video i downloaded it and ill use it in my missionary k Dont even stress it :)
You have my permission as long as you keep the video intact, without alteration, including the video description.
Thank you. It will do a good job of introducing folks to the fact that Mohammed, and his 7th century religion, were and are the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ and the Gospel.
A good primary education tool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-_20sjHVI
Islam 101 is another good 1 minute education tool.
http://www.petewaldo.com/
A lot can be learned in one minute at History of Mecca, too.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/
I'll go ahead and edit the thread in the forum to your YouTube username if that's OK with you.
The attached would be another good video for you to use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sk3fKY9PhY
I see you commented on the video at this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTAmszewGg
So what did you think of it?
Since my PM box has gone quiet for a couple of days, and I have hopefully conveyed, without ambiguity, the basics - the undeniable core of the difference (http://www.petewaldo.com/) - that shows that Mohammed and his religion are the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the Gospel, I'll go back and catch a few of the less important details for the benefit of the forum read-only participants.
Faro is, of course, welcome in the forum anytime for further exchange on these replies.
Quote from: Peter on December 02, 2010, 06:35:02 AM
Nov 22
http://truthway.tv/
here is all his amo as well as mine read them for yourself call out his mistakes oh wait if you call out his then u gotta call out the bibles mistakes 50,000 good luck with that .......
Actually the Jehovah's Witness cult article, from which the 50,000 error number springs, references that number of errors
in just the New Testament, in their effort to peddle their bible based on their false teacher Charles Taze Russell. You see, Mohammedans aren't the only ones in the grip of a false prophet or teacher.
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-bible-50000-errors.htm
Pretty impressive claim considering there are only about 180,552 words in total, in the KJ New Testament. That's nearly an error per every 3-1/2 words!
http://agards-bible-timeline.com/q10_bible-facts.html
But hey faro, why investigate the truth of the claims you parrot when it would only impede your blasphemy against the Word of God, and further expose Mohammed's religion as a lie? But no matter how hard you blaspheme YHWH it will never magically create thousands of years of history of Mecca from thin air.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/
Quote from: Peter on December 02, 2010, 06:35:02 AM...... and may Allah .....
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1240.0
Quote from: Peter on December 02, 2010, 06:35:02 AM...... have mercy on you that man died an honorable death .......
The man was an antichrist, according to scripture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc
Quote from: Peter on December 02, 2010, 06:35:02 AM...... preaching with your eye movements he had the world greet him goodbye and was at the royal hospital the KING OF SAUDI ARABIAs personal doctors saw him PREACHING WITH HIS EYES who does that WHO WHO WHO WHO
Another "miracle" of Mohammed's religion?
Other stroke victims
communicate with eye blinks, though Deedat was likely the only one that blasphemed God on a daily basis with it. Rent the movie "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly". I quite enjoyed it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diving_Bell_and_the_Butterfly
Quote from: Peter on December 02, 2010, 06:35:02 AMTimothy 5:23 what made paul say this to timothy look it up!!!!
The verse is self-explanatory. Recommending wine for healthful, medicinal, purposes.
1Ti 5:23 No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach's sake and your frequent infirmities.
But please note
1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous,
nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Quote from: Peter on December 11, 2010, 02:28:02 PM
Dec 11
Lol I dont need to alter It i just add the Part where Deedat corrects himself for the Mistake He made in the lecture Oh wait you dont Have those lectures ......
I see. You mean the videos where he corrected himself by quoting the actual test of PERSONS and not spirits? His video where he admits to being an antichrist because of the verse from the very same 1st Epistle of John?
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and
THE SON. 23
WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
You see my friend, your uncle's fake verse, that he repeated on several occasions formed the WHOLE BASIS of his FALSE CLAIM that Mohammed was not antichrist.
So are you are trying to say that your uncle later admitted that Mohammed and himself were antichrist?
Quote from: Peter on December 11, 2010, 02:28:02 PM.... Do you good luck finding them youll just use them to make more insulting videos and im going to use them and add what i have into it without changing or deleting!!!!!!!!
LOL
Thank you my friend. That will help Mohammed's followers know exactly where they stand in terms of Mohammed's teachings being the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel. One only needs a single verse to verify that.
Surah 4:157 That THEY SAID (in boast), "WE KILLED CHRIST JESUS the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";-
BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRowS51fETc
Quote from: Peter on December 11, 2010, 02:28:02 PM
Dec 11
Lol I dont need to alter It i just add the Part where Deedat corrects himself for the Mistake He made in the lecture ...
Or do you mean the video where he admits that the terms "spirit" and "prophet" are never interchangeable, or synonymous, in scripture, as he had preposterously suggested.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=335.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKMMr4lZx2E
Strong's definitions:
the spirits
New Testament Greek Definition:
4151 pneuma {pnyoo'-mah}
from 4154; TDNT - 6:332,876; n n
AV - Spirit 111, Holy Ghost 89, Spirit (of God) 13,
Spirit (of the Lord) 5, (My) Spirit 3, Spirit (of truth) 3,
Spirit (of Christ) 2, human (spirit) 49, (evil) spirit 47,
spirit (general) 26, spirit 8, (Jesus' own) spirit 6,
(Jesus' own) ghost 2, misc 21; 385
prophet
New Testament Greek Definition:
4396 prophetes {prof-ay'-tace}
from a compound of 4253 and 5346; TDNT - 6:781,952; n m
AV - prophet 149; 149
We can see by the word counts in the definitions above that:
The Greek word "pneuma", translated as "spirit", is NEVER translated as prophet.
The Greek word "prophetes", translated as "prophet", is NEVER also translated as spirit.
Koine Greek was the lingua franca of the 1st century and the language that the New Testament was written in.
My friend, it's 1400 years too late to try the spirits that caused Mohammed to writhe on the ground and foam at the mouth.
It's 1400 years too late to try what Mohammed correctly believed to be jinn that met him in that deep dark cave.
Mohammed was convinced it was a demon until his wife convinced him otherwise, and she wasn't even witness to his feeling squeezed nearly to death by the demon three times.
That's what is so important about having all of the witnesses in God's Word.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEfKpgiYgHY
Quote from: Peter on December 11, 2010, 02:28:02 PM
Dec 12
Lol I dont need to alter It i just add the Part where Deedat corrects himself for the Mistake He made in the lecture Oh wait you dont Have those lectures Do you good luck finding them .....
By the way. If he had corrected himself, why do you suppose the corrections haven't been uploaded to YouTube? Why do you say "...good luck finding them...." are they a secret?
Quote from: Peter on December 11, 2010, 02:28:02 PM..... youll just use them to make more insulting videos ......
No more likely I would expose the falsehoods in the corrections just as I exposed his initial false premise.
Quote from: Peter on December 11, 2010, 02:28:02 PM...... and im going to use them and add what i have into it without changing or deleting!!!!!!!!
LOL
Besides, if you are aware that your Muslim brethren are uploading what you admit are mistakes Deedat made, why aren't you out there telling them to take their videos of him down, rather than asking me to take mine down, that point out his falsehoods and biblical illiteracy?
In typical Mohammedan fashion he disengages, and then PMs a bunch of the same copy and paste we so often receive from Mohammed's followers - Deedat's minions - that has been addressed ad nauseum in this forum.
The dithering on while running from truth, in typical fashion, is copy and pasted in chat extensions.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2158.0
I made an effort to steer the subject into the central issue, indeed the only issue, that matters. The blood of Jesus Christ, as contrasted to how convicting it must be, to follow Mohammed through his thinly repackaged pagan rituals instead of Jesus Christ.
http://www.petewaldo.com/hajj_umrah.htm
The subjects are particularly addressed in the "Islam in and on Scripture" category.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=33.0
Then follows his copy and paste blizzard with
Quote from: Peter on December 13, 2010, 07:35:34 AMTake your Time and read....... Break down everything everything from this I will be patient for your reply read the whole thing once before you start breaking it Down..... i would like you to back up everything you say with websites given below in multi translations of the bible as well ++++++++++++++ as the original greek version of the verses I would greatly appreciate both without beating around the bush and misqouting i repeat the parrallel translations of the verses ++++++++the word by word Greek version of the text
"try and keep it within matthew mark Luke and John" if you wish to use the un orginal non cannon four back up with the with the
original four and when your Qouting verses dont use them out of context i would like the first three verses and three verses after every verse you qoute with refrences of which book which chapter the word by word refrence websites are in the other msg You say you Love me right as a brother ....
I can only consider you as a brother in the secular human sense, as a brother in humanity, the way I would also consider an agnostic or atheist.
My brethren are in Christ Jesus. You are antichrist.
Quote from: Peter on December 13, 2010, 07:35:34 AM.... then you will not conceal or hide anything .......
I am not like you. Truth is what matters most to me. If my uncle had corrected himself after such a huge and important mistake/deception, I would make and upload a YouTube correcting it, rather than keeping it a secret.
Quote from: Peter on December 13, 2010, 07:35:34 AM....... this is not about ego or pride this is us coming to common terms if God wills
Coming to common terms is an impossibility. Let's explore THE CORE of our understanding to see exactly why, rather than you trying to run and hide, in a copy and pasted blizzard of Greek sophist styled foolishness.
Conversations tend to develop in the same predictable pattern with you guys.
But you are only fooling yourself, my friend, even citing the gospel of Barnabas again after I exposed it for you as the 16th century Mohammedan forgery that it demonstrates itself to be. Most YouTube Muslims seem to have been embarrassed enough by it, to have learned better than to cite that nonsense, wherein Jesus declares that Mohammed was the Messiah, and not Jesus.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=465.0
If you had ever read the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you would understand that there is only a single concept that you most need to concern yourself with, and THERE IS NO DISAGREEMENT or misunderstanding between Christians and Mohammedans, in our RESPECTIVE understanding of it. You can set all the rest of your Greek sophist styled nonsense and felonious effort at MISunderstanding aside. Nothing else matters.
This single verse from the Quran exposes Mohammed's 7th century religion as being the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel - no matter what translation you use. This verse from Mohammed's religion shows those of us that follow Jesus Christ - the Messiah - that Mohammedanism was necessarily inspired by a jealous fallen angel named Satan (even Mohammed was convinced it was jinn that met him in that cave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpsWnbApBNw ).
It cannot be any other way. There is no gray area.
ONE MUST CHOOSE between life or death.
Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "WE KILLED CHRIST Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:-
An illiterate 7th century southwest Arabian desert dweller, located 1200 kilometers away from the Holy Land, directly contradicting the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, 500 years after the fact.
Matthew 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, YIELDED UP THE GHOST.
Mark 15:39 And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and GAVE UP THE GHOST, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he GAVE UP THE GHOST.
John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and GAVE UP THE GHOST.
Doesn't matter what translation you choose, my friend, it is the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel and new covenant.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1175.0
Matthew 26:28 For this is MY BLOOD of the new testament, which is SHED FOR MANY for the REMISSION OF SINS.
(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) Matthew 26:28 touto <5124> gar <1063> {FOR THIS} estin <2076> (5748) to <3588> {IS} aima <129> mou <3450> {MY BLOOD,} to <3588> {THAT} thV <3588> {OF THE} kainhV <2537> {NEW} diaqhkhV <1242> {COVENANT,} to <3588> {WHICH} peri <4012> {FOR} pollwn <4183> {MANY} ekcunomenon <1632> (5746) {IS POURED OUT} eiV <1519> {FOR} afesin <859> {REMISSION} amartiwn <266> {OF SINS.} }
You can spew blasphemy against Paul all you want my friend, but it will never change the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and the new covenant we are given through Yeshua, the Messiah.
Even the Messiah's name "Yeshua", means YHWH saves, rescues or delivers.
Please ask yourself, what does the Messiah deliver His sheep from?
Quote from: Peter on December 13, 2010, 07:35:34 AMYou say you Love me right as a brother....
I can only consider you as a brother in the secular human sense, as a brother in humanity, the way I would also consider an agnostic or atheist.
My brethren are in Christ Jesus. You are antichrist.
HOWEVER as a Christian I am called to love everyone. That's why I am doing what I can to help you overcome the false prophet Mohammed and his STAND-ALONE 7th century religion and repackaged pagan rituals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8cnOoXBhA
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[[[[First of all i knew you would divert the conversation .......]]]]]
My friend, all you want to do is squander time, when time is running out. That's why I wanted to begin with the only point that matters. THE CORE of the subject. It is you that wish to engage in the Greek sophist styled nonsense of your uncle.
Let's focus on THE WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel and what makes Mohammed's 7th century religion THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
[[[[[......... but Running and disappearing was on my list as well :) answer the whole post with Greek and parrallel translations which you have not done as of yet in the mean time here is the reply:]]]]]
Didn't you read the PM? This is all that matters. As a gentile, if you reject the blood of Yeshua then you are heading for destruction. You will die wallowing in your sins.
(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) Matthew 26:28 touto <5124> gar <1063> {FOR THIS} estin <2076> (5748) to <3588> {IS} aima <129> mou <3450> {MY BLOOD,} to <3588> {THAT} thV <3588> {OF THE} kainhV <2537> {NEW} diaqhkhV <1242> {COVENANT,} to <3588> {WHICH} peri <4012> {FOR} pollwn <4183> {MANY} ekcunomenon <1632> (5746) {IS POURED OUT} eiV <1519> {FOR} afesin <859> {REMISSION} amartiwn <266> {OF SINS.} }
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) 1 John 5:12 o <3588> {HE THAT} ecwn <2192> (5723) {HAS} ton <3588> {THE} uion <5207> {SON,} ecei <2192> (5719) thn <3588> {HAS} zwhn <2222> {LIFE:} o <3588> {HE THAT} mh <3361> ecwn <2192> (5723) {HAS NOT} ton <3588> {THE} uion <5207> tou <3588> {SON} qeou <2316> thn <3588> {OF GOD} zwhn <2222> {LIFE} ouk <3756> ecei <2192> (5719) {HAS NOT.}
And here's what you can expect.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.
(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) John 3:36 o <3588> {HE THAT} pisteuwn <4100> (5723) {BELIEVES} eiV <1519> {ON} ton <3588> {THE} uion <5207> {SON} ecei <2192> (5719) {HAS} zwhn <2222> {LIFE} aiwnion <166> o <3588> {ETERNAL;} de <1161> {AND HE THAT} apeiqwn <544> (5723) {IS NOT SUBJECT} tw <3588> {TO THE} uiw <5207> ouk <3756> {SON} oyetai <3700> (5695) {SHALL NOT SEE} zwhn <2222> {LIFE,} all <235> {BUT} h <3588> {THE} orgh <3709> tou <3588> {WRATH} qeou <2316> {OF GOD} menei <3306> (5719) {ABIDES} ep <1909> {ON} auton <846> {HIM.}
I am through bothering with the interlinear since you didn't even notice it in my last PM and, as you can see, the KJV is a very good version. If you have questions you can consult the Greek/English interlinear and Hebrew with Strong's definitions at this link.
http://www.olivetree.com/cgi-bin/EnglishBible.htm
[[[["""""An illiterate 7th century southwest Arabian desert dweller, located 1200 kilometers away from the Holy Land, directly contradicting the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, 500 years after the fact."""""""
Are you serious? first of all Lets get some facts straight it was 623 years after NOT 500.......]]]]]
Jesus was crucified around 33AD, and the Gospel penned from about 50 to 63AD, so I forgot the word "over" 500 years.
But do you really think this is the kind of thing you should waste your time with, when you are racing headlong toward an eternity of suffering, by engaging in thinly repackaged Arabian paganism?
[[[[......the whole subject of the gospel according to maybe maybe not matthew mark luke and john ........]]]]]
See? You requested that I quote Mat Mark Luke & John but I knew in advance you would not give a whit about it because you knew when you made your request that you would have to REJECT THEM ALL because you follow Mohammed. You just wanted to waste my time.
You knew that YOU MUST NECESSARILY REJECT THE WHOLE SUBJECT OF THE GOSPEL TO FOLLOW MOHAMMED'S 7TH CENTURY RELIGION.
I quoted the confirmation of the death of Jesus FROM ALL OF THEM.
That's why you didn't quote them, but rather go on your way with more blather.
Why don't you simply be truthful with yourself and admit that you must reject ALL of the prophets and witnesses of YHWH as revealed in His 1600 year record?
1John 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.
Tragically, the only reason you do this is because you follow Mohammed's 23 year 7th century record. A man who your own books reveal as a murdering,
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
prisoner raping,
Tabari VIII:38 "The Prophet selected for himself from among the Jewish women of the Qurayza, Rayhanah bt. Amr. She became his concubine. When he predeceased her, she was still in his possession. When the Messenger of Allah took her as a captive, she showed herself averse to Islam and insisted on Judaism."
thief.
Ishaq:465 "Then the Apostle divided the property, wives, and children of the Qurayza among the Muslims. Allah's Messenger took his fifth of the booty. He made known on that day the extra shares for horses and their riders - giving the horse two shares and the rider one. A Muslim without a horse got one share of the spoil. It was the first booty in which lots were cast."
My purpose is to show you that you are ABSOLUTELY ISOLATED in Mohammedanism.
That there can be no question that Mohammed himself was THE EXACT OPPOSITE of the perfect and sinless Messiah - Jesus Christ. And don't give me that "insulting my prophet" nonsense when it is your own books that insult Mohammed.
[[[[........ and paul is not about the supoosed "death" of Jesus ......]]]]
That's the whole subject of the Gospel as I showed you from ALL of it's authors.
I have isolated just their descriptions of that event from each author here.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1175.0
Jesus was crucified just as was prophesied so many hundreds of years in advance.
Psalms 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look [and] stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
That was written many hundreds of years before crucifixion was ever even invented.
[[[[[......... "It was Made to appear to them so" ........]]]]]
But the ONLY REASON you reject the accounts of all those that lived in Jesus' time, is THE SOLE WORD of A SINGLE so-called "prophet" with no fulfilled prophecy, who not a single person ever heard his "Allah" or Gabriel give a single revelation to, that never performed a single miracle. THAT LIVED OVER 500 YEARS AFTER the men who lived during those times, and penned their accounts.
Can't you see how utterly ridiculous that is? But that's not the half of it. Please read on.
[[[[........ what man who cant read or write with out a translation of the bible in arabic can write such claims WHO can you do it have you met a man who cant read or write have you ever met someone like that plz tell me yes there were Christians in the area at the Time ...........]]]]]
You are the victim of brainwashing, my friend. Even your own Quran and Hadith explains it for you. Mohammed was influenced by those he encountered in his uncle's business, his sugar momma's business, and later by the wives, concubines and slaves that had some Christianity and Judaism in their backgrounds, a tri-lingual Jewish secretary, Tubba and of course Jabr.
In fact, so often did Mohammed get a "revelation" so soon after talking to Jabr, that the local nickname for Jabr in jest became "holy spirit". Mohammed had to make up a special "revelation" in a foolish and transparent effort at damage control.
Sura 16.103 We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.
Much more on this subject.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=452.0
Why don't you try to learn a little about the source of the repackaged Arabian paganism that you follow?
[[[[[....... but cmon for a man to orate such verses is impossible you cant even write a single chapter from it CAN YOU????]]]]]
Didn't you ever even read the Quran???
Illiterates in the 7th century might have believed Mohammed's declaration that you just parroted, but such a ridiculous claim is exposed as the sheer and utter nonsense that it is, in this 21st century information age?
"Gerd Puin, the world's leading specialist in Arabic calligraphy and Qur'anic paleography, studying the oldest manuscripts, speaks with disdain about the willingness of Muslims and non-Muslims alike, to accept Islamic dogma. He says: "The Qur'an claims for itself that it is 'mubeen,' or clear, but if you just look at it, you will see that every fifth sentence or so simply doesn't make sense. Many Muslims will tell you otherwise, but the fact is that a fifth of the Qur'an is just incomprehensible. This is what has caused the traditional anxiety regarding translation. If the Qur'an is not comprehensible, if it can't even be understood in Arabic, then it's not translatable into any language. That is why Muslims are afraid."
Mohammed's confusion and the mess he left behind is also why a whopping 71 out of only 114 suras are subject to abrogation. You know, the Al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh. So please don't try to give me any more of this utter nonsense.
Simply because you are willing to parrot something, doesn't magically make it come true, my friend.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0
[[[[The first arabic bible was available in the 9th century 3 CENTURIES after the prophet muhammad PBUH yes or no plz tell me the man couldnt read his own language .......]]]]
Don't you get it? Mohammed may have been ignorant but many of the people around him were very literate as well as multilingual.
Mohammed claimed of the Quran ".... while this is Arabic, pure and clear." but there are over a hundred words that are not even Arabic, like the Syriac word "injeel", for example. You have been fed a crock of sheer nonsense, my friend.
[[[[[........ none the less read Greek that's what puzzled the people of the book how is he orating scripture without being learned....................]]]]]
That's why he messed up the Arabic and Hebrew fables that he recycled, so badly. Folks in his day tried to correct him but he just went on. It's well known that's where he got the stuff like Jesus speaking from the cradle and clay birds from.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=893.0
Even your rituals are adopted, and then adapted, pagan moon, sun, star and jinn-demon worship.
Mohammed's grandfather dug the well of Zamzam and dedicated it to the most venerated priest and priestess of the Arabian jinn religion. The pagans ran back and forth between Safa and Marwah in jinn worship, just the way you do today! Even Mohammed's closest followers hated to engage in it because they knew it was pure pagan worship.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1784.0
Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " (2.158) (Sahih al-Bukhari 2 Book 26 710)
http://www.petewaldo.com/hajj___umrah.htm#al_safa_al_marwah
Didn't you ever give any thought as to why you bow to a black stone in the corner of a black box 5 times a day? That was the Quraish's moon god idol before Mohammed.
You cannot deny that the black stone was an idol of the Quraish.
Why don't you try to educate yourself?
Start here. Find ANY historical or archaeological evidence whatsoever, that suggests that Mecca ever existed, before the 4th century AD.
Realize that if you come up empty handed you will have no choice but to believe that the rituals you practice are nothing more than thinly repackaged pagan rituals. Just as some of Mohammed's closest followers did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8cnOoXBhA
[[[[[""""I can only consider you as a brother in the secular human sense, as a brother in humanity, the way I would also consider an agnostic or atheist.
My brethren are in Christ Jesus. You are antichrist.'''''''
You and me are gentiles you european me asian arent we all from the seed of adam ie the seed of noah Brothers of humanity my friend ......]]]]
That's what I said.
[[[[[....... or brothers of the Abrhamic monotheistic Faith ......]]]]]
Sorry, but brothers in the Abrahamic faith DO NOT BOW TO THE QURAISH'S BLACK STONE IDOL IN MECCA.
[[[[[[...... and to compare me to an atheist is very insulting ........]]]]
What I said is that under YHWH you are no more of a brother of mine than an atheist is. We can only be brothers in humanity as long as you reject YHWH/Yeshua to follow Mohammed.
[[[[[......... but ill take it for God says to forgive and overlook.......your brothers are in jesus christ then embrace all brands and denominations of the Christiandom even the catholics .......]]]]
My friend, I didn't say I embrace religion. Religion is the worst thing that could have happened to the Ecclesia. Particularly in the forum of the Roman "church".
2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
[[[[[......... right Either way i cant help loving my fellow mankind For God is most Kind to everyone and has shown me too much love for me to show abhor ant distaste for anyone!!!!!!!!]]]]]
You certainly aren't much like your "prophet".
“Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh servant of Allah, oh Muslim, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!†Or his true followers.
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1463wmv&ak=null
[[[[[In What way am I the anti christ = anti Messiah? that is literally incorrect and a false statement ........]]]]]
My friend, I am not expressing an opinion. I am quoting from the same Epistle that your uncle lied about.
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
Being antichrist isn't about what you have been deceived into understanding it is, or wish it was.
Do you hold the doctrine of Christ or not?
2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
OF COURSE YOU DON'T. YOU FOLLOW MOHAMMED.
[[[[[........ anti means the opposite or to oppose and messiah is one who is anointed we Believe in the Messiah Just not Exactly the same way you do and you know that "tell me plz where does the Quran insult Jesus son of man....... his personality his virgin birth his miracles by God his instructions and teachings his character where what Muslim insults Jesus PBUH
who insults him or blasphemes him cuz the second any of them do they need to proclaim there vows of faith again
there is NO other gods Beside God ]]]]]
Simply blathering the same sound bite over again will not suddenly make Mohammedanism akin to Judaism or Christianity.
It will never make Mohammed's 7th century religion, and Mecca repackaged pagan Arabian rituals, any less of a lie.
Mark 12:29 ... The Lord our God is one Lord: ... 32 ... for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
[[[[[I bear witness as a muslim i believe in all the angels, the original Torah, .......]]]]
That's a lie. You even break the Sabbath with Mohammed's holy day on Friday.
See what I mean?
Simply because you are willing to parrot a lie will never make it any less of a lie. You are only lying to yourself.
[[[[[......... the orginal Gospel of jesus, ...........]]]]]
The biggest lie yet. Don't you see how ridiculous it is for you to believe that somehow THE WHOLE SUBJECT OF THE GOSPEL had somehow BECOME THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT HAD BEEN? And you believe your lie purely because of Mohammed.
And check this. In the 7TH CENTURY, after the bible had been translated into every popular language, had been copied tens of thousands of times, and was being read all over the known world, Mohammed's alter ego "Allah" inspired him to recite...
Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.
So was Mohammed's "Allah" just ignorant to the fact that the Gospel that was available all over the known world at the time was THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what is had once been?
Can't you see the sheer stupidity of believing such a thing as some phantom "original Gospel"? Are you completely ignorant to textual criticism?
Why yes of course you have to maintain a state of ignorance to textual criticism, scripture, history, archaeology, and geography, in order to continue to follow Mohammed's recycled Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn demon worship rituals.
[[[[[.......... the Psalms aka zaboor of David and the final testament the Holy Quran
I bear witness as a muslim that i believe in the prophets and messengers of God ......]]]]
You are only lying to yourself, my friend. You sure aren't fooling God when you bow to the Quraish black stone idol 5 times a day. Do you think the Jews that bowed to a golden calf were saved simply because they believed they thought that was the way to worship God? Why do you think you'll be specially excused?
[[[[[.......i believe in the last day the day of judgement and LIFE after Death
proclmation of faith]]]]]
You obey and believe in MOHAMMED, just like he told the ignorant 7th century southwest Arabian desert dwellers to, my friend.
"He who obeys the Messenger, obeys Allah." Sura An-Nisa 4:80
Nothing more and nothing less. You reject YHWH to follow his alter-ego "Allah". And you do it without even getting the satanic fringe benefits of prisoners to rape and their property to steal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt5cWcaT65A
[[[[[TRUST IS NOT BLIND AND NEITHER IS THE TRUTH WE SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH FIRST HAND ....]]]]]
Do you bow toward the Quraish's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day?
Do you travel to the Quraish's Kaaba and march around it 7 times as the pagan moon, sun, star and jinn worshipers did before Mohammed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=324A-S75PTU
[[[[["""""""I am not like you. Truth is what matters most to me. If my uncle had corrected himself after such a huge and important mistake/deception, I would make and upload a YouTube correcting it, rather than keeping it a secret.""""""""
Did you post my previous message on your Forum all of it without blemish YES OR NO......]]]]]
Yes of course, but it's the same old blather that's been answered over and over in the forum. I even posted replies to it until I realized what a colossal waste of time it is.
That's when I realized we needed to condense the chat to THE PRIMARY SUBJECT of the Gospel, as compared to the provable lies and foolishness of the false prophet Mohammed.
[[[[[....if truth is all that matters to you .......]]]]]
If truth mattered to you, you would join me in the forum, where we can have an organized EXCHANGE. You even stated earlier that this is not an appropriate place yet you are too much of a coward to join me there because you well know that your Greek sophist styled foolishness will be exposed for exactly what it is.
[[[[[....... then Y would you insult a Deciest man like the babylonian talmudists......]]]]
Even the Jews don't consider the Talmud inspired.
[[[[[......most certainly you are definitely not like me neither am i like you.........]]]]]
Indeed not. You follow the father of lies through his false prophet Mohammed.
You bow to the Quraish's black stone idol.
You pray in vain repetitions as the heathen do.
You await Mohammed's "paradise" that is nothing more than a chicken and wine serving bordello that he invented, to entice his men to continue on in their murder, prisoner rape, and theft, at the behest of his alter-ego "Allah".
Why do you suppose it is that fresh running water is the most frequently mentioned items in the ridiculous fictitious "paradise", of someone who lived in one of the driest places that even Arabia has to offer
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[[[[[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ9E34-xgSM ]]]]]
The video starts out with the words of a true follower of Mohammed and then turns to a bunch of apostate purveyors of taqiyyah. But you're not fooling anybody here with the empty words of the foolish, and liars. Particularly anyone foolish enough not to realize that they are cheering on their own demise at the hands of the most evil, violent and reprobate sect that emerges from Mohammedanism. Confirmed by over 16,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11.
How could anyone be so naive as to believe that the peacenick apostates could ever prevail?
The 1400 year goal of Islam has been, and will always be, conquest of all the kingdoms of the world (satan's legal possession) and subjugation of formerly free people to Mohammed's religion. Just like during the rape, pillage and plunder of the Islamic first jihad.
Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
While Mohammed was good at sending others to their deaths in the name of his alter-ego "Allah", through the murder of imperialistic conquest, Mohammed himself died in a whimper in bed. Some model!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG1MiLqH0jc
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[[[[Just wanted to ask are you working on it and please send me the link for the "mistake" of uncle deedat!]]]]
It cannot be characterized as a "mistake" because he repeated it too many times, and because his phony verse FORMED THE WHOLE BASIS, of the deception he foisted on his bible-ignorant followers.
All you had to do was click on the first link on the video, where I invite all his defenders, to discuss his phony bible verse in a venue where it makes some sense. Not in this YouTube PM that even you described as the wrong place.
So who's right and who's wrong? Your uncle D or me?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=335.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_A
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Why don't you join me? If you like I can restrict our chat to just the two of us. We both know the answer, don't we.
The next 10 replies are to some of the copy&paste repetition sent later on the 14th that begin at this link.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2158.msg9117#msg9117
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[[[[[Read and refute copy by copy paste by paste word by word PLZ!!!
Say: "O People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of Allah, when Allah is Himself witness to all ye do?"]]]]]
How about line by line? Let's start here.
We know that the term "Allah," as the god of the moon, was derived from the Thamud god of the moon. His name was Hilal, or Hlal, which means "crescent." Later, the name "Hilal" became Hilah, as we see in many inscriptions which were found in Arabia. In the Thamud inscriptions he is found as H-ilah, Ha-ilah and H-alah. We see the same development for "Hilah," the moon deity in Yemen, where Almaqah is called "Halal,' or "Hilal, the Crescent." 15
Safaitic tribes were nomads wandering in many parts of Arabia, especially in the north. The god of the moon was found in their inscriptions as "H-lah." in the Safaitic inscriptions, the letter "H" pronounced as "Ha" is the definite article, "the." It corresponds to the Arabic, "Al."16 This led the Arabians to call him "Al-lah."
The big Star Athtar - Venus - Replaces the Moon for the Title of "Allah"
From the Thamudic inscriptions, we know that Venus worship endeavored to overshadow the worship of other deities of Arabia, willing to impose itself as the monotheistic worship of northern Arabia. The worshippers of "the big star' even underestimated the worship of the other members of the Star Family, such as the worship of the wife of the head, Ellat, which represented the sun, or the worship of the moon itself. Over time, Venus stole the title of "Allah" from the moon. Both the moon and the sun became subjects to Allah, the biggest star. We encounter this concept in the Qur'an, where it says:
He subjected the sun and the moon till they say Allah. (Sura 29:61)
This was because competition grew between the different members of the Star Family. The worshippers of Allah, the biggest star, considered other deities of the Star Family as subordinate to Allah, and maintained that he was the most important in the Star Family. They taught that the other stars became servants to Allah and worshipped him before his throne. The followers of Allah, the head of Arabian Star Family Worship, professed and fought against the followers and worshippers of the other members of the Star Family. This concept of the supremacy of the head of the Star Family over the rest of the members of the family is encountered very clearly in the Qur'an. In the Sura 36;38, we read, "the sun goes to an abiding place." Mohammed then explained this verse in his Hadith saying;
The sun goes to the throne of Allah where it worships the moon.
There are many Hadith of Mohammed in which he claimed that the setting sun goes to the throne of Allah. We quote a Hadith reported in Bukhari, the authoritative book containing the most-confirmed Hadith of Mohammed:
From Abi al-Thur. 'I asked the prophet, peace upon him from Allah, about the verse of Allah in the Qur'an which states that 'the sun goes to an abiding place,' the prophet answered; 'the sun's abiding place is under the throne.'17
Another hadith also reported in Bukhari:
I was with the prophet in the mosque when the sun was setting. he asked me: "Do you know where the sun goes after the sunset?" I answered: "Allah and his prophet better know." The prophet said: "The sun goes under the throne in order to worship, this is the interpretation of Allah's saying 'the sun goes to an abiding place'".18
Al-Tabari also reported a Hadith of Mohammed, in which he describes the sun and the moon going to the throne of Allah to worship.19
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Arabian Monotheism, Which is Based on the Star Venus-Athtar, is the Root of Mohammed's Monotheism
In later times, Athtar, which was the planet Venus, and called the son of the moon, was venerated by the Yemeni tribes. Athtar's worship spread to the north and replaced the moon as Allah. Athtar became the chief deity for monotheism in Arabia. his worshippers rejected the other gods who were worshipped in Arabia and insisted that Athtar, who became Allah, must be worshipped alone. This worship was at the root of Mohammed's monotheistic ideas.
The Qur'an copied the attributes given to Athtar and attributed them to Allah. in Yemeni inscriptions, we find Athtar Khaham, which corresponds in the Arabic of the Qur'an to 'al-Khadir" which means 'the potent," a term used to refer to Allah. We also find in the inscriptions attributed to Athtar the title: 'Athtar al-kaher," which means "Athtar the conqueror,' which we find also attributed to Allah in the Qur'an. We also find another term, 'Athtar Yaglin' which is translated in the Qur'an as "al-montakim," which means "the revenger" or "revengeful.' Still another term referring to Athtar was "Athtar Samum" corresponding to the Arabic of the Qur'an as 'Samie', or 'hearer.' All these titles were attributed to Allah in the Qur'an.31
We see, also, that Attar, in some Thamudic inscriptions, is given the title of 'Rami,' which, in the Arabic language of Mecca and the Qur'an, means 'Akbar,' translated 'the biggest.' This is the same title given to Allah in the Qur'an. The intention of the worshippers of Venus was to say that the Venus deity star was the biggest of all stars. Both Allah in the Qur'an, and Athtar in the Thamudic inscriptions are called 'Rahim,' which means merciful.32 in the inscriptions from the area of Teima, there is a mention of a star called 'Lame'h,' which means 'bright." This is most likely a reference to Venus, which is given in the inscriptions of the title of 'Rahim,'33
The Qur'an has copied many attributes of Arabian gods and given them to Allah. For example, the Thamud gods are described with the inscription;
he was not conceived nor generated nor born. 34
This expression often was used in the Jahiliyah period; in fact, Kes Bin Saideh mentioned it in his sayings.35 Mohammed used to listen to Kes Bin Saideh when he was young. The same idea was copied in the Qur'an and used about Allah, such as Surah al-khlas 112;3, 'he begetteth not, nor is he begotten." This became a verse in the Qur'an.
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Connections of Mecca with Athtar-Venus's worship, and with other Kaabahs that were built for the same kind of pagan worship.
The Athtar-Venus worship was in places like the Kaabah of mecca.39 Al-Masudi, another islamic historian, says that the Kaabah of Mecca is furnished in the same style as a Kaabah in Yemen, which is dedicated to the worship of Venus.40 This helps us see that the Kabbah in Mecca relates to the same worship of Venus (and others) in the Star Family.
Al-Masudi also reveals that, for each region in Arabia, there was a special star which was considered the main deity venerated by the inhabitants of the region. he goes on to say that Venus was the star of Mecca, Tathrib and Yemen.41
Athtar - Venus became Allah, who appears at mecca in the third pert of each night. Mohammed shared the same concepts of this star deity.
No wonder Venus snatched the title "Allah" from the moon. later, the same Athtar-Venus was called "Allah" in Mecca and in other parts of northern Arabia. Allah became a great and high star which descended every third part of the night to appear to his worshippers. We can see this from many authors who wrote about the life of Mohammed, and who wrote about the life and creeds of Jahiliyah, the period before Islam. Among the authors was Ali Bin Burnan al-Din al-Halabi, known as the author of Halabieh. he wrote that Allah descends to the heaven of this world when it is the last part of the night.42 It is clear that, by the word "Allah," they meant the morning star which they saw in the third portion of each night.
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The Hadith contains Mohammed's words, and is considered by Muslims as inspired. in the book of Sahih al-Bukhari, the book which contains the authoritative hadith of Mohammed, we find the words of Mohammed;
Allah, our lord, his name is blessed and high, descends to the heaven of this world every night when it remains in the last third of the night.43
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Islam is a form of the Arabian religion of the Star Family Worship of Mohammed's time. The veil that tries to hide this reality falls when we study the roots of the Islamic religion. The face of the old Arabian religion is easily recognized and identified.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=324A-S75PTU
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[[[[[to follow the Gospel of Barnabas is more Submitting to God's will then your version of Judaism oh wait you guys arent jewish uhm uhm ]]]]
Is that what Muslim scholars say about the Gospel of Barnabas?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=465.msg9063#msg9063
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEfKpgiYgHY
12-15
[[[[MY PAGAN MECCA BELIEFS??????]]]]]
You can't deny that you bow toward the Quraish's black stone idol 5 times a day. Mohammed had all their idols removed EXCEPT ONE. The Quraish's most important idol.
You cannot deny that Muslims travel to Mecca and march around the Kaaba 7 times just like the Arabian moon, sun, star worshipers did on their Hajj. Muslims pointing to, or kissing, the Quraish black stone idol on each time around.
You cannot deny that Muslims run back and forth between al-Safa and al-Marwah just like the Arabian jinn-demon worshipers did. The only difference is that the statues of Asaf and Naelah, the most venerated priest and priestess of the Arabian jinn religion, were removed.
These are simple matters of Arabian historical fact my friend.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=56.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxVGFE6-SzE
12-15
[[[[Hercules
In their popular culture the Romans adopted the Etruscan Hercle, a hero-figure that had already been influenced by Greek culture â€" especially in the conventions of his representation â€" but who had experienced an autonomous development. Etruscan Hercle appears in the elaborate illustrative engraved designs on the backs of Etruscan bronze mirrors made during the fourth century BC, which were favoured grave goods. Their specific literary references have been lost, with the loss of all Etruscan literature, but the image of the mature, bearded Hercules suckling at Uni/Juno's breast, engraved on a mirror back from Volterra, is distinctively Etruscan. This Hercle/Hercules â€" the Hercle of the interjection "Mehercle!" â€" remained a popular cult figure in the Roman legions]]]]]
But my friend you believe the UNwitnessed tall tale Mohammed told of his overnight ride on a flying donkey-mule from Mecca to Jerusalem to "paradise" and back to Mecca by morning. (He told this tale because he was caught in an adulterous affair at a woman's house and that was the best he could do.)
While the Greek Pegasus is the way Mohammedans most like to imagine Mohammed's flying donkey-mule, the Zoroastrian flying camel, that took their mythical prophet back and forth from the place where his mythical immortal ancestors lived, is far more likely where Mohammed copied his fable from.
Later Islamic "tradition" creators realized that the 1200 KM distance from Mecca to Jerusalem made the whole Abraham Ishmael in Mecca nonsense even more implausible so how do you suppose they solved it? They claimed that Abraham flew back and forth from Jerusalem to Mecca on a buraq too!!! :-)
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1713.0
"The Buraq was also said to transport Abraham (Ibrahim) when he visited his wife Hagar and son Ishmael. According to tradition, Abraham lived with one wife in Syria, but the Buraq would transport him in the morning to Mecca to see his family there, and take him back in the evening to his Syrian wife.[4]"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e_MzCUa1nU
12-15
But no matter how hard you tilt against windmills, or how deeply you blaspheme the 1600 year record of YHWH through all of his prophets and witnesses to His people, it will never magically create thousands of years of history for Mecca.
Your blasphemy against YHWH will never make Mohammed's religion anything other than the adopted, then adapted, Quraish pagan rituals, and Mohammedan "tradition" provably nothing more than pure 7th and 8th century created fiction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyMliwaBFHg
12-15
[[[Refute those verses here ill help
____Psalm of David 84:5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you, who have set their hearts on pilgrimageAs they pass through the Valley of Baca, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools.Psalm 84:6
Baca means Mecca still dont believe me read ahead]]]]
I think you're the one that needs to read ahead my friend.
WHAT DOES THE VERY NEXT VERSE SAY?
Psalms 84:7 They go from strength to strength, [every one of them] IN ZION appeareth before God.
See what happens when you copy and paste someone else's lies?
You become the liar.
http://www.petewaldo.com/baca_mecca.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLsniG47IO8
[[[[[WOW you just slander away dont you someone who you dont know havent seen havent met neither have you read the Quran and call him the anti christ.....]]]]]
My friend, how many times do I have to show you that it's not about my words?
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
Do you deny the Son of God or not?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmbvtuW4ZFE
[[[[We pray like heathens REALLY OH WAIT YOU SAID LIKE THE HEATHEN NOW, well atleast we pray to God the one God of all the prophets
And when you call to prayer, they mockingly mimic and deride the act of worship and amuse themselves with what they hear and see.
This is because they are a people who lack the faculty of comprehending intellectually
Quran - 5:58
How amazing is the Quran really a reply for everything does the Bible Do that NOPE ]]]]
Again, it isn't about what I say.
Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
How much more do you think Mohammed's "Allah" appreciates the 33rd time you repeat something, than the first time you said it?
You even pray those vain repetitions while bowing to the Quraish black stone idol, embedded in the Quraish Kaaba, where they worshiped 359 more heathen idols.
Are you beginning to get the picture yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=324A-S75PTU
[[[[[See you couldnt reply to the initial post and are now using a book written 187 years after the prophet passed away (hadith) which was not authorized in any way by him or the disciples in any way you cant refute from the QURAN ]]]]]
Muammar Qaddafi tried to run and hide from the Hadith too. Look what happened to him!
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=892.0
We can well sympathize with your wanting to run and hide from your own books, since they paint such a grim picture of your "prophet"s murder, prisoner rape, and thievery. But the Quran does the same, my friend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1onTtrg1gE8
[[[See you couldnt reply to the initial post and are now using a book written 187 years after the prophet passed away (hadith) which was not authorized in any way by him or the disciples in any way you cant refute from the QURAN ]]]]]
"Even dictators must live within the confines of Islamic law. For example, Libya's leader MuammaQaddafi once declared that he no longer believed in anything besides the Quran and that he had abandoned all of the prophet Mudammad's teachings (hadith).
The Islamic world was shocked. Islamic scholars at Al-Azhar University in Egypt and other Islamic authorities in Saudi Arabia were disturbed greatly. The world of Islam formed a committee of scholars to go and meet with Libya's leader so they could discuss the matter with him personally.
Sheikh Mohammed Al-Gazoly, a scholar from Al-Azhar University, led the committee to Libya. The committee warned the Libyan leader about the result of his decision. They told him that if he did not repent and take back his statement, he would fall under the law of renegades and infidels. They said that according to Al-Qaeda Al-Faquhia he was denying many of the Islamic truths, which would force true Muslims to kill him. In light of this information, the leader of Libya repented and took back his statement. The committee went back from Libya to Cairo and announced Qaddafi's decision to repent to the whole Islamic world.
Even a man of power like Muammar Qaddafi was not free to believe as he wished. No one can escape the terroristic law of Islam. Therefore, no Islamic nation, government or parliament will ever be able to protect a renegade Muslim from the sword of Islam from taking the lives of ex-Muslims unless free countries follow the example of Holland and offer some protection to those people."
SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE?
You have gone from being antichrist, punishable by the wrath of God, and added on being an Islamic renegade and infidel. Punishable by death at the hands of your own brethren!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRowS51fETc
12-16
[[[[[.....their digging by the way and the more they dig the more issues that are raised i know people who were christians and now are athiest and i feel bad <------copy paste everything plz and then reply
This is not about debate bro or dialogue that wont solve anything neither will it unite us .........]]]]
As long as you deny the blood that would save you we could never be united. That's the EXACT OPPOSITE of those of us that follow Jesus Christ.
[[[[[[....... do you think christ is going to come Back as a God and if He does than you know who that is Because God is spirit and you must worship him in truth and spirit and flesh begets flesh and spirit begets spirit John 3:6
YOU NEVER RESPONDED ABOUT DAVID TALKING ABOUT PILGIMAGE TO BACA AND THE VERSE]]]]
This is false. I even included a video of it. Attached is the video I sent
Here is the PM I sent.
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12-15
[[[Refute those verses here ill help
____Psalm of David 84:5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you, who have set their hearts on pilgrimageAs they pass through the Valley of Baca, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools.Psalm 84:6
Baca means Mecca still dont believe me read ahead]]]]
I think you're the one that needs to read ahead my friend.
WHAT DOES THE VERY NEXT VERSE SAY?
Psalms 84:7 They go from strength to strength, [every one of them] IN ZION appeareth before God.
ZION ZION ZION ZION ZION!!!!!! The name of the easternmost hill of Jerusalem.
See what happens when you copy and paste someone else's lies?
You become the liar.
http://www.petewaldo.com/baca_mecca.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLsniG47IO8
[[[[[Brother Peace Be upon you God knows that which we do sitting here arguing about all this.......It makes me sad that we even have to do it because the things you guys make up say and deny are very offensive.......]]]]]
While I have pointed out your falsehoods over and over I have done it through scripture, not my own words. It hasn't been about what I say at all.
Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
[[[[[....But God is the Defender of all of Us and to Him alone should we fear ......]]]]
Yet you follow Mohammed and his alter-ego "Allah" in spite of the fact that his 7th century creation cannot be supported scripturally, historically, archaeologically or geographically.
You even bow to the Quraish's black stone idol 5 times a day. You don't fear YHWH at all my friend. But you should.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
[[[[....... Not each other......It also makes me sad so many innocent lives on that day and the horrific days that followed all the vandals .......]]]]]
Are you talking about the first Islamic jihad, the Islamic Mufti of Jerusalem joined with Hitler in genocide of Jews, or the over 16,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11 in this second Islamic jihad?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sk3fKY9PhY
[[[.....and what not Both of our americans and other nations souls.......when will we have peace will there ever be a time when there will be 0 rapes every 5 mins on the stats instead of every 3 sec a person gets raped in america.......Murders
child abuse
step dads and mothers boyfriends molesting their own daughters..............]]]]
The world, will be the world. Reprobates do the same in Islamic countries.
I would have thought you would be somewhat hardened off to that kind of stuff with Muslim fathers murdering their wives, and Muslim fathers and mothers murdering their own children to preserve their "honor".
[[[[[......pedophilia and what else it makes me sick to my stomach all this demonic stuff.......i agree genital mutilation, innocent killings, honor killings, .......]]]]
Luk 6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
All that you listed plus 16,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks just since 9-11. Two million killed by the hand of Islam in the Sudan alone.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=51.0
[[[[....... lying and all those other things happen and it is neither moral or ethical but it is also anti Quranic as well brother .......]]]]
The reason Muslim still rape and murder around the world is EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THE QURAN.
Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
TRUE Muslims that murder around the world are following your own prophets words AND your own prophets DEEDS.
Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
Now consider the life and teaching of the sinless Messiah that I follow.
John 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rtYAO3UxA
[[[[[....and it is sad that they dont pick up the book and read it in a language they understand....
And Neither Do our People Here and Thats what we all need to start doing No religion allows such un ethical things .......]]]]]
That's true of the revelation of YHWH and his people for about the last 2,000 years.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=935.0
It couldn't be more false regarding Mohammed and his behavior that his fellow murderers emulate.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=51.0
[[[[[........ and whats the saddest part is they hide behind religion and justify it using the Book when the book really doesnt say that there ........]]]]
You know darned well that it does in the Quran. Smite the unbeliever! Fight the unbeliever!
Here's a challenge for you. Find a single place in the Gospel that calls Yeshua's people to violence against others for ANY reason.
[[[[[......... like the SO CALLED "christian By Name" who hide behind the Bible to start war ..........]]]]]
Please show me where the Gospel calls Christians to "start war" (other than spiritual war), or admit this is a lie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sk3fKY9PhY
[[[[...... and justify their actions using there book........Isnt That sad because it makes me sad that we all have to keep fighting and pointing fingers and insulting one another instead of having a civilized Dialouge]]]]]
Please review our dialog and tell me who is uncivil. The places where you believe me to be uncivil are where I quote the Scriptures, but they aren't my words.
[[[[[[..............But God is Watching and He will Judge Both of Us.......]]]]]
Our judge will be the one you deny.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
[[[[[.....And I fear My Lord and His displeasure So plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz plz If I have offended You in any way shape or Form Plz Forgive me and Dont hold against me ......]]]]
Of course I don't, but it isn't me that you've transgressed.
It isn't my forgiveness you need to seek for your Mohammedan blasphemy.
Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
1Jo 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmbvtuW4ZFE
[[[[[....... when you kept calling me Pagan ......]]]]]
What I said was that you engage in pagan rituals. You cannot deny that you bow to the Quraish's black stone idol 5 times a day.
The Saee is the same running back and forth between Safa and Marwah that the jinn worshipers did.
It wasn't my opinion that repetitive prayers are of the heathen.
Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
[[[[[...... I Got a little offended Because I really am Not and "who likes false accusations" No one does brother and on top of that You made an insulting video making Fun of his death which is not funny in the least bit ....]]]]]
Listen to AND READ what is being said to him. Praising him for praising militant Muslims.
[[[[[... it made me Cry But I know God is the one who defends All............So Plz Forgive me and lets Pray for Peace between our communities .......]]]]
We can pray for peace, but it's naive to believe it could ever arrive as long as Islam, and it's 1400 year long goal of conquest of the kingdoms of the world, continues to exist.
That's why I am in the front lines of the battle against this foe of YHWH's people.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=52.0
[[[[[ ........ "dont you think that is more righteous in front of God" What do you say ......]]]]]
But you follow a false prophet my friend. What could be less righteous than to reject YHWH to follow Mohammed's 7th century "Allah"?
[[[[[.....But then again its a free Country with free speech just like were free to drink free to cheat free to fornicate free to do what ever we want free to insult free to hate free to pretty much do whatever we want like bully one another and get away with most of it But we should be concious of a day which is like a thousand years where we will be before God on the day of judgement and he will confront us with all that we have done .......]]]]]
Yet you seem unconcerned.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.
[[[[[....... so Plz forgive me im sorry that I said you were a pagan or anything else I may have said My intention was for You not to Insult someone who has passed .......]]]]
Please read the drop down menu on the video.
Again, your uncle chose to be a public figure. As long as people upload him I will continue to expose his falsehoods. Just like I do the false prophet Mohammed.
Do you think just because Hitler is dead that we should ignore his transgressions too?
[[[[....... but its a free country and you have your religion and I have mine May the Peace and Blessings Of Allah Be with You Brother JW
:)]]]]]
1Jo 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmbvtuW4ZFE
Why not listen to what some of your former Mohammed following brethren at the Mulsims4Jesus channel have to say?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Muslims4Jesus?blend=2&ob=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmbvtuW4ZFE
[[[[[....and "who likes false accusations" No one does brother ........]]]]]
Pointing out that Muslims engage in the rituals of the pagans before Mohammed is not falsely accusing. It's a matter of fact.
You make empty accusations of false accusation, and then turn right around and falsely accuse.
[[[[[....... and on top of that You made an insulting video making Fun of his death which is not funny in the least bit ......]]]]
Where in the video, or in the drop down menu, did I make fun of Ahmed Deedat's death? What's funny about the video?
If you had read the contrasting verses from the Quran and Scripture throughout the video, you should have seen, that the video could not be more serious - indeed deadly serious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8cnOoXBhA
Quote from: Peter on December 19, 2010, 11:38:36 AM
Well said :) Buddy How many converts have you had ??
It's impossible for me to convert anybody. That's up to Jesus Christ. How could I know how many I have influenced into coming to the truth? Good question since it takes the average Muslim about 7 years to overcome Mohammed's religion. And that's in free western countries that don't kill Mohammed's followers for "apostasy" of coming to the love of YHWH through Yeshua.
Over half a million Muslims, have been able to see the EXACT OPPOSITE nature of Mohammed's religion to the Gospel, from the single video that you have been criticizing. I would venture that most of Mohammed's followers that saw it didn't realize the stark and and stunning contrast before.
But then all it takes for you to claim a "convert" is to deceive someone into parroting a single line of blasphemy!
Let me do you a favor. I'll retitle these threads so your proselytes can google your name, and find all the profound truth regarding Mohammed's 7th century religion, that you have shared through your missionary work in this forum. I'll help you share with them the direct and concise answers you offered to all the subjects that were raised.
Quote from: Peter on December 19, 2010, 11:38:36 AMif any? I dunno Y were at war with each other .........
Because Mohammed's 7th century religion is antichrist.
Quote from: Peter on December 19, 2010, 11:38:36 AM........ ever wonder Y real satanists and atheists and polythiesits are never really fought ......
Some people feel called to them. I don't spend time with willful unregenerates. I leave that up to Jesus.
I've been called into helping all those poor folks who have been deceived into believing they worship God, when they instead follow the false prophet Mohammed.
Quote from: Peter on December 19, 2010, 11:38:36 AM...... its always the christians muslims and jews fighting or someone fighting them when we should be living in Peace ......
Don't be so naieve. Conquest of all of the kingdoms of the world has been Mohammedans goal for 1400 years.
Quote from: Peter on December 19, 2010, 11:38:36 AM...... hain naa I dunno its a delima aint it........why dont you and I start a peace revolution lets see how many Follow what do you say!!!!! on the basis of Mark 12:29 and Deutronomy 6:4
The world is well familiar with Islamic styled peace with over 16,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11.
Quote from: Peter on December 19, 2010, 11:38:56 AM
Your only harming yourself Dude By calling our prayers Vain man ........
Who called?
Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Quote from: Peter on December 19, 2010, 11:38:56 AM......... Refrain from It man really Gospel of Yeheshwa is Hidden from You guys and Me as well the Injeel is Hidden or they burnt whatever they Had under constantine the Gospel according to matthew mark luke and John are Not Injeel Issaaa ibn Maryam!!!!!!!!!!! Plus jesus Spoke aramiac Not Greek and Why havent they released all the manuscripts to the public Because they know there not the same?
The Gospel is the same as it was in the first century, as it was yesterday, today and forever.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1175.0
12-19 pm
[[[[Well said :) Buddy How many converts have you had ??]]]]
Let me do you a favor. I'll retitle these threads so your proselytes can google your name, and find all the profound truth regarding Mohammed's 7th century religion, that you have shared through your missionary work in the forum. I'll help you share with them the direct and concise answers you offered to all the subjects that were raised.
Sent to: drzeshanfarooqi
You must not see the name ^^^^^^^^^^ up there I know Exactly what your Doing and which form Of what your Doing use Your Manipulative reverse Psychological ways with another Kay :) peace!!!!!!!!
12-19
[[[[I dont aid and abet mischeif bro Sorry Peace!!!!!!!!]]]]]
You mean you don't want to show your proselytes the truth you revealed by defending Mohammed's religion through our chat?
Dec 20
[[[You must not see the name ^^^^^^^^^^ up there I know Exactly what your Doing and which form Of what your Doing use Your Manipulative reverse Psychological ways with another Kay :) peace!!!!!!!! ]]]]]
Since you know EXACTLY what I am doing then please explain.
What manipulation? What reverse of psychology? If you are going to make accusations you are going to have to explain and support them. Please do so now.
What I DID was show you that Mohammed's 7th century religion falls like a house of cards in the light of truth. Whether in the light of scripture, history, archaeology or geography. It is an EPIC FAILURE on ALL COUNTS. That's why you couldn't even get to first base. Why you couldn't make a single point in it's favor. Even worse, Mohammed's religion is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel. A STRAIGHT-UP LIE.
All I did was move our chat out of the dark alley of personal messaging, that liars love so much because it lets them run and hide from THEIR OWN words, THEIR OWN record, and into the light of day. Why wouldn't you want your name attached to your words, so your proselytes can see the wonderful job you and your uncle did, of taking a Christian mushirk to task?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igSRiZF0eM
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
Peace Be Upon you :)
Brother listen, My only purpose Initial message, was to defend Ahmed Deed at and Convey the Message to You not engage in insulting Debates With you...God is Watching Us and Forgive me If I Offended You in any way..See you dont Perceive anything brother You say your spreading Peace .......
What I would say is I am spreading TRUTH. Because that's what Jesus IS.
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM..... and the only reason Why y your mad or Upset .......
My friend, you're the one that keeps replying with all caps. The only thing I am upset about is Satan's deception foisted on 1.5 billion people that reject YHWH to follow the false prophet Mohammed.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM......... and you've set out to Attack Islam .........
That's because I understand that the world is engaged in a spiritual war.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
The reason you are on the run, and haven't hardly been able to respond to a single subject that has come up, is because of that sword coupled with the unsupportable nature of Mohammed's religion at every level.
Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM......... and Muslims (NOT SPREAD YOUR SO CALLED EXPOSING THE TRUTH) Is because
Now we've taken a stand and we use AHMED DEEDATS lectures .........
That's right. Even after you admitted that he made a "mistake" repeating a homemade bible verse in several different venues, that formed the whole basis of his antichrist lie, and even though you now know the foolishness of his Baca=Mecca nonsense, as well as his Paran=Mecca foolishness, when it wasn't within a thousand kilometers, you still peddle Deedat's lies, because you follow the father of lies.
EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW YOU ARE REPEATING LIES.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM......... from Your Gospel according to MATT MARK LUKE AND JOHN AND PAUL PAUL PAUL the book Full of contradiction over contradiction
But
Why do they not study the Quran carefully? If it were from other than GOD, they would have found in it numerous contradictions
4:82
Dude you only want to Argue not convince it stimulates you doesnt it you enjoy it arguing about that which you dont know You have not read the Quran i posted the Link 4 times so that maybe you could read and see for yourself but see God Knows the Truth and According to his will He shall Guide
That's hilarious, and thank you for the verse apparently from before Mohammed had made such a ridiculous mess of his "revelations". Later on, Mohammed himself, admitted the Quran contradicted itself, and so he had to declare that verses that contradict other verses abrogate the earlier verses. A whopping 71 out of 114 suras are subject to abrogation. BUT THANKS FOR MOHAMMED'S CONTRADICTION REGARDING HIS CONTRADICTIONS!!! :D
2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
go To the Arab Christians and the arabic Bible that The word for God is Allah .........
I agree that the Arabic WORD of God is Allah. But that word is not a name. It is a chameleon. It means "the God" to Muslims today, just like it meant "the god" to those that engaged in monotheistic worship of Venus, just as it meant "the god" to those who considered the moon god as the most powerful deity.
That's why the favorite chant of Islamic suicide murderers still remains Allah Akabr, which means Allah is the greatEST. The Quraish chanted it because they believed their "Allah" was the greatest of all the pagan star family deities. Long before Mohammed, the name Abdullah meant "slave of Allah" just as it does today. That's because Muslims today are slave to the same deity as the pagan Quraish - Satan - through his false prophet Mohammed. This is made obvious by the fact that Mohammed taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel.
The NAME of God is found nearly 7,000 times in scripture. The NAME declared by God Himself is YHWH.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM....... go to
mel gibson and tell him that he used the Name Allah.......
Or ask the Jews why they wandered off into a manmade doctrine where they decided that YHWH's name was too sacred to write or say, so they exchanged that sacred name for other WORDS, and titles that can mean God or god. Just like you cannot deny the name of Allah was invoked by the Arabian pagan star family worshipers.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
Dude Ive explained to You that we dont worship the moon or stones and the stars or Jesus
And I have explained to you that I well understnd that YOU DON'T BELIEVE you worship the Arabian star family, yet you have been deceived into prostrating yourself toward the Quraish black stone idol 5 times a day.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
We worship the One God Just like Yeheshwah .......
No you worship a god of Mohammed's creation that sanctioned his rape, pillage, plunder and murder.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM..... and you say you moved my convo into Light when you pick and Choose what you like to reply to and you dont reply to the Rest......
Every single reply you PMd me is copy and pasted into the forum. Why don't you join me in the forum and select a specific topic I didn't answer to. I placed your repetitions that I had already answered to, and irrelevant continuing nonsense into chat extensions and replied to them there.
Yet you not only ignored all the responses I gave you but declare you are going to continue what you now know to be lies.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
Believe what you want but No man can Die for My sins or the Sins of the World or your sins
You believe that because you are filled with the spirit of antichrist. However it is the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
and Poor Isaaa PBUH has no Idea what a mockery you guys have made out of him you .......
But it is you that is crucifying Him all over again, and mocking Him just as the Jews did.
Just as they mocked and tortured those that followed Him.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM....... guys even changed the Messiahs name....
Yet you call Him by a modern Quraish dialect Arabic name. And when I asked you why His Hebrew name Yeshua means YHWH saves, rescues or delivers, you were dumbstruck, and as answer-less as you were through all the rest of the truth I have shared with you.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM...again and again i proove to you and even this message youll qoute out of context....
Why would I do that since I haven't done it since November? All of your PMs have been copy and pasted into here intact.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM....Brother May Allah Guide You and Me to the Right path and Im sorry satanic Human Sacrifices of Humans is not My forte' you dont reply to My videos or reply properly at all .......
The sacrifice of the Lamb of God in the new covenant was prophesied many hundreds of years in advance. The only reason you reject it is because Satan, through his 7th century false prophet Mohammed told you to.
That's also the only reason you prostrate yourself toward the Quraish's black stone idol 5 times a day.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
You only wish to Delude me like you've deluded yourself to the wrong path of Idol worship brother and you know it thats Why you sit here and propaganda Hate with your slanderous insults towards the Prophet .......
But it is your own books that slander your prophet my friend. I merely point it out to you.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM...... when You know I cant slander or defend
That's because Mohammedanism is indefensible based on YOUR OWN BOOKS. Let alone the absence of a history of Mecca from before the Christian era.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
Because Yeshua isaa ibn Maryam is My Messiah My Beloved Prophet and Prophet and I wouldnt Be muslim if I said anything about him
Just because you declare Yeshua is your "beloved prophet" doesn't excuse your blasphemy of the very blood He shed for you.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
I follow the religion Of Abraham Dude Of
Ibrahim Peace be Upon him
There is no "religion of Abraham" and the simply matter of undeniable fact is you follow Mohammed, and only Mohammed. You follow Mohammed's fake 7th century Gospel just as you follow Mohammed's fake 7th century Torah. Even Mohammed's holy day is on Friday because Mohammed wanted to insult the Jews.
And why do you follow Mohammed? Because Mohammed said to follow Mohammed.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
Muhammad PBUH was not the Fouder to Submission to the Will of God Ibrahim was And you cant Deny that Or youll find some way leeching on to your concept ......
Not my concept, my friend, but the 1600 year record of YHWH to mankind.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM...... of OMG THE BLACK STONE THE KAABAA SAFAA AND MARWA .......
You cannot deny those the black stone was a Quraish idol any more than you can deny those rituals were all Quraish rituals.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM...... dude youve never been there ......
But Mohammed's tribe the Quraish were. The built the kaaba for Arabian star family worship.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM....... and Neither can you go ........
What reason would a Christian have, for going to a godless pagan Arabian stone venerating center, located 1200 kilometers from THE Holy Land?
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM........ Unless You Bear witness like Yeheshua Ibn Maryam DID peace be Upon him and his Honored Mother Go ahead brother
READ THE FOLLOWING
"A group from the people of the Scripture wished that they could misguide you, but they only misguide themselves and they do not notice."
""""""""""""""""God offers you again""""""""""""""""""'
In the Name of The One God who is Most Gracious Most Merciful
Say: "O people of the Scripture, let us come to a common understanding between us and between you; that we do not serve except God, and do not set up anything at all with Him, and that none of us takes each other as patrons beside God."
If they turn away, then Say: "Bear witness that we have surrendered."
"O people of the Scripture, why do you debate us regarding Abraham when the Torah and the Injeel were not sent down except after him Do you not understand"
Anyone who has bothered to investigate well understands.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
Here you have debated in what you knew; so why then do you debate in what you do not know God knows while you do not know.
Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Nazarene, but he was a monotheist who surrendered; he was not of those who set up partners.
The most legitimate people to Abraham are those who followed him; and this prophet, and those who believed; and God is the supporter of the believers.
Read bro
19:34 Such was Jesus, the son of Mary, and this is the truth of the matter in which they doubt.
19:35 God was never to take a son, be He glorified. If He decrees a matter, then He simply says to it: "Be," and it is.
I see. So then Mary was Jesus' father too?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=316.0
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
19:36 And God is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him. This is a straight path.
Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
In old testament prophecy
Isaiah 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Matthew 3:3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
19:37 So the parties disputed between them. Therefore, woe to those who have rejected from the scene of a terrible Day.
19:38 Listen to what they say and watch on the Day they come to Us. But the wicked today are in clear misguidance.
19:39 And warn them of the Day of remorse. When the matter is decided while they are oblivious, and they do not believe.
19:40 It is We who will inherit the Earth and all that is on it. And to Us they will return.
Rejecting the 7th century false prophet Mohammed is the obligation of all of YHWH's people whether Jew or Christian.
[[[[Ok Lets talk about something else.....]]]]
We can both well understand why you want to avoid discussion of the points you have been ignoring regarding the absence of Mecca's history, Paran, Baca and the other nonsense that you have tried to fool me with. But I'd be happy to indulge you.
[[[[[......brother Why do You Love God?]]]]]
The reason I love my awesome God, and the reason I am humbly honored to have been called into His service, would be best expressed by deferring to the disciple that Jesus loved the most - John.
1 John 4.7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world. 15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. 16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. 17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 19 We love him, because he first loved us. 20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
[[[[I love God because he is so Kind to me he is so Kind to My parents hes blessed me With amazing parents You know im Giving my med exam soon I was Having trouble so I prayed and asked God to Help and my dad has been studying with me since then isnt that amazing My dad is Old hes retired and Hes so caring that he sits with me cuz he knows I need someone to study with theres One what about You Why do you Love God:)]]]]]