Chats with TheAlsalaam
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlsalaam
The following is copy and pasted PM conversation and that in channel comments of the following YouTuber. The links have been restored in this thread for ease of clicking.
Following PM was received from TheAlsalaam
08/27/11
[[[[Peace be those follow the way of truth.
Welcome to our channel and know the truth.
I tried too much but didn't add so that's why I send you message]]]]
Also 2 channel comments (which I don't post because it's such a colossal waste of time for reasons that will increasingly become apparent in the following)
[[[[[TheAlsalaam
TheAlsalaam (5 days ago)
Woe be on denier of truth.
welcome to our channel.]]]]]
[[[[TheAlsalaam (5 days ago)
Welcome to our channel and know the truth.]]]]]
8-28
To which I replied by PM
[[[[Welcome to our channel and know the truth.
I tried too much but didn't add so that's why I send you message]]]]
You also left a channel comment.
[[[[[Woe be on denier of truth.
welcome to our channel. ]]]]]
I couldn't agree more!
attached "THE false prophet" video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lEro81ygXQ
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8-28
[[[[Woe be on denier of truth.]]]]]
So who does the DENYING?
Attached "Islam DENIES the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCE_sti-uZc
8-28
By god yu are very funny what I said what is you reply brother you see the youtube you also know and I also very well there are many videos that tell about bible tell about Qur'an & this that. yes? So these kind of videos which we see clearly same of them which against without any proof or out of cotext. wilful from there mind add any foolish anything that found in their mind.
So we should save us or be against them. we should have proof or with refrence like about Bible. Those that do these evily act actuelly they doesn't mislead any. but hisself they and those fall in their poison they are fools. why they don't check or think yet for a movment that is it right or wrong. truth do free us and give us peace but lie not?
and these are that I have seen yet a single of these was not true but in my upion 30% was right 'coz same place this video was with proof.
and I said woe be on denier of truth, So what i said lie can you explain that?
these videos that you made by god not true you bring each of this with reffernces not like BBC or CNN day lie OK. Qura'n is the words of god it is a fact you accept or not. Scienctist accept the Qur'an words of God rather in history those was the owner of wisdom and knowladge they also accept they Qur'an words of God. If you not from deniers and seeker of truth So watch full video not take the act of denier which not watch. Hope brother you will watch please.
http://vimeo.com/26209221
, It is a one video 1000s videos thall accept quran is our master and accept it is true
Peace be on you and Allah SWT give you Hedaya
8-28
"....and I said woe be on denier of truth, So what i said lie can you explain that?"
Easily.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I AM the way, THE TRUTH, and the life: NO MAN cometh unto the Father, but by me.
1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER
sent with "Muslims believe in Jesus and all the prophets."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kCxOGGM5w
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8-28
"....why they don't check or think yet for a movment that is it right or wrong."
Exactly!
Why don't you start by collecting some EVIDENCE - like that available for other ancient Arabian towns - that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD, or it's kaaba before pagan immigrants from Yemen built it in the early 5th century AD?
I'm not talking about the phony Islamic so-called "tradition" that was all CREATED and put to the pen in the 7th and 8th centuries, that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-muhammad history.
I'm requesting EVIDENCE - like that that exists for the other ancient Arabian towns - not superstition.
sent with "history of mecca"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq8VOZbuu-Q
8-29
Re: Peace be those follow the way of truth.
Can you too added on my channel then see your answer.
8-30
[[[[Can you too added on my channel then see your answer.]]]]
Which of those videos provides evidence that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD, or it's kaaba before the early 5th century when pagan immigrants from Yemen built it?
Which of those videos explains how Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael wandered 1200 kilometers from Hebron to Mecca, across harsh, barren desert, about 900 years before the first caravan route was established along the Red Sea?
Please present the historical and archaeological EVIDENCE.
There are over a million artifacts - just on display - in Jerusalem for THE Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs. Archaeological evidence shows us that Abraham's travels were never within 1000 kilometers of where Mecca was eventually built in the 4th century AD.
Please watch the attached video and carefully contemplate the questions that it raises, and show me which video on your channel answers them. Show me any random website that answers them.
Try a Google of the history or archaeology or geography of Mecca.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/
You're the one that said
".....they are fools. why they don't check or think yet for a movment that is it right or wrong. truth do free us and give us peace but lie not?"
So are you just one of those "fools" that you described?
Why don't you spend a little time on the Internet today and investigate the history of Mecca?
Why not investigate the origins of Islam while you are at it?
http://www.petewaldo.com/origins_of_islam.htm
Please watch the attached video and really sit down and think about it?
Have you completely lost the ability to think for yourself?
Sent with "ISHMAEL, HAGAR, PARAN & MECCA (+pics)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh5E--IlCKk
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".....they are fools. why they don't check or think yet for a movment that is it right or wrong. truth do free us and give us peace but lie not?"
What about Ahmed Deedat's lies and deception? He even created a fake bible verse to fool his bible-ignorant minions into believing that Muhammad was not antichrist.
Why not watch the attached video in which I expose his lie and phony bible verse?
Or are you just one of those as you describe "fools" that sits there and claps while sucking in all his lies?
attached "Deedat - First Epistle of John confirms Mohammed was not antichrist"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc
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8-30
wgy you not openly addcomment which I give your reply you like mouse reply for me
If you dare add comment openly.
8-31
[[[[wgy you not openly addcomment which I give your reply you like mouse reply for me
If you dare add comment openly.]]]]
I have squandered countless hours in 500 character bits and pieces with people that fail, just as you did, to ...
"....check or think yet for a movment that is it right or wrong. truth do free us and give us peace but lie not?"
In typical Muhammadan fashion, after directing me to your channel, you completely ignored my request to show me which video on your channel ".....provides evidence that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD, or it's kaaba before the early 5th century when pagan immigrants from Yemen built it?"
That's because you will not find a video on your channel or all of YouTube, any more than you will find any historical or archaeological record outside of YouTube, that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD when pagan immigrants from Yemen settled the area. Thus Muhammadanism is provably nothing more than a pack of preposterously poorly plagiarized fables and myths and recycled pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship rituals.
The reason you DIDN'T answer is because you CAN'T answer, because Mecca NEVER DID EXIST before the 4th century AD.
So instead Muhammadans turn to 500 character bits and pieces of blaspheming the one true God of the bible, as if that will somehow make Muhammad's religion something other than a 7th century cult, that follows nothing more than PURE 7th century FANTASY. Even including flying donkey-mules and talking ants.
I offer far better than 500 character sniping bits and pieces. On every video there is a link to a forum where we can quote each other, post live links, and engage in thoughtful discussion in virtually unlimited space, over time. The record is then permanent and easily searchable with the forum search function so we don't have to repeat ourselves. There is a link to each panel in each thread.
Not like squandering time in 500 character rapidly revolving bits and pieces, repeating the same thing over and over while Muhammadans act as though they never read what you wrote - just like you did to my last PM.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=56.0
I can copy and paste our whole chat in there for openers if you want to continue our discussion in a public venue.
attached "HAJJ & UMRAH (part 2) Al-Safa & Al-Marwah"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWy5KaFvbU"
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8-31
[[[[[wgy you not openly addcomment which I give your reply you like mouse reply for me
If you dare add comment openly.]]]]]
I'll add a question to your channel for your reply.
9-1
I will add the following conversation in which we moved to his channel comments, in chunks
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlsalaam
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PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
Why do Muslims prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq8VOZbuu-Q
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1133.0
PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
Ancient Arabian towns are very well attested in the historical and archaeological records. Could you please direct me to some historical or archaeological EVIDENCE - perhaps some links - that suggest that Mecca ever existed before immigrants from Yemen settled the area in about the 4th century AD, and built their Kaaba in the early 5th century AD for moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship? Such evidence abounds for Jerusalem with over a million artifacts just on display. What about the EPICENTER of Muhammadanism, allegedly since Adam?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq8VOZbuu-Q
http://www.historyofmecca.com/origins_of_islam.htm
TheAlsalaam (6 hours ago)
Peace be on those that follow the way of truth!
<<< PeteWaldo >>> thanks that you added comment openly in firt what you objected on my a comment ( woe be on denier of Qur'an) dear viewers his object is such as like this which he have sent messege (Welcome to our channel and know the truth. I tried too much but didn't add so that's why I send you message. You also left a channel comment.) and too gave so many wibside addresses from one wibside. And his channel I didn't find any think such as like this which reply me aboud my comment that what i said? why i said? after his one massege on prayer (salaah) I replied them to watch I video and he didn't watch that and imminently jamped on other topic. In his whole replies he was jamping and brought other topices, So you didn't replied to even once my comment 1/4
TheAlsalaam (6 hours ago)
I your whole replies there was nothing, yes nothing at all. All was foolish So now we come to you these claim which you pasted what you say in first (Why do Muslims prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day?) Who said you that weprostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca, In which verse of Qur'an in which saheeh Hadith. If you really want answer visite
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrÂMajorTV#p/u/21/XhPBlCdaLSQ
And my dear viewer I have seen first time in my life like this much great denier of truth not only Qur'an rather from his self Holy Bible you know very funny video sent to me by god to much laughed me please my dear viers most watch this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=YDslsWDzPIc
2/4
TheAlsalaam (3 hours ago)
You watched that again and again show the Ahmad deetad and after reading reading soo many verses did you see that verses which Ahmad Deetad was reffred no and too I say you my dear viewers that video also out of context I said you that in spide of Watching that full debate wich you watched you deny from all things shame on you eat poison and die from your this much denying. And he said Mohammadan what is it mean? What is Mohammadanism? even you don't know the meaning of Islam and Muslim. When your knowledge is this much poor that don't know the meaning of Islam and Muslim so how you know the truth. You know any thing very well but you are denier of truth. That video which you in last time have sent to me on Ahmad Deetad you too maybe have seen full debate so why you deny from truth. my dear viewers you know what he was said again i repeat "you can't answer" you was told me, I say you what is that can't answers what you fact you said? 3/4
PeteWaldo (16 minutes ago)
"after his one massege on prayer (salaah) I replied them to watch I video and he didn't watch that and imminently jamped on other topic"
The initial topic was your accusation that those that don't follow Muhammad are "deniers of truth". However it is the followers of Muhammad that deny the truth of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. I follow ALL of the prophets and witnesses of YHWH, as revealed in His 1600 year record, that His people have followed through 2 covenants for 3500 years.
You follow Muhammad alone, who's character was as EXACTLY OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ, as his 23 year 7th century record is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCE_sti-uZc
Through the mass murdering, prisoner abusing thief, Muhammad's followers are blasphemers of the one true God YHWH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kCxOGGM5w
TheAlsalaam (3 hours ago)
He have a wibsite <<< http://www.brotherpete.com >>> read that in that so many things which all are out of context, lie, and videos which have link, which is abslutlly have not any documentation, documented and basicly proof. I always say that Christian and jews and other Non-Muslim they are expert to poison and cheat with their self, and how mislead the people. Finally what you get from these you keep yourself from truth so you are truth. What happen on you? why you like this? this Bible which you say this is words of God this bible fall you in darknesses and Qur'an take out you from darknesses to lightnesses.
Ok reply me after reading these foolish of your Bible www.evilbible.com
we are waiting
PeteWaldo (1 second ago)
"Who said you that weprostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca, In which verse of Qur'an in which saheeh Hadith. If you really want answer visite..."
You seem to be denying that you prostrate yourself toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol, in the Quraish pagan's Kaaba 5 times a day, even as Muhammad's followers are required to do just that. Even traveling to it to march around it as the Quraish pagans did, and kiss or point to the black stone on each trip around the Kaaba.
I don't need to watch the video because I ALREADY KNOW WHY you do it. The ONLY REASON you prostrate yourself to the Quraish pagan's idol is because Muhammad told his followers to. That is what makes you a Muhammadan. You reject ALL of the prophets and witnesses of YHWH as revealed in his 1600 year record, to follow Muhammad and his 23 year 7th century record. Indeed Muhammadans BLASPHEME the prophets and witnesses of YHWH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kCxOGGM5w
PeteWaldo (10 minutes ago)
"I replied them to watch I video and he didn't watch that ...."
You merely pointed me to your YouTube channel. You never attached a video, nor did you direct me to a video or website, that contains historical or archaeological record that suggests that Mecca ever existed, before Yemeni immigrants settled the area in the early 4th century, or built their Kaaba in the early 5th century, for moon, sun, star and Arabian jinn devil worship. This ABSENCE of record of the EPICENTER of Muhammadanism allegedly since Adam, even as other - even very small - ancient Arabian towns are very well attested in the historical and archaeological records.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq8VOZbuu-Q
http://www.historyofmecca.com
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An hour plus later I had added this forum thread, and the following invitation to it.
PeteWaldo (22 minutes ago)
"....after his one massege...." There's no need to try to describe our prior exchange by PM, as I have copied and pasted it into the forum, so we can use links to reference any part of it. Just leave off the wwws and put a space after the dots in the individual panel URL address, for purposes of putting it in this comment section. You or anybody else, can access the entirety of our conversation at the following link, by copy and pasting it, and then removing the spaces from after the two dots, and pushing "enter" on your keyboard.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729.0
PeteWaldo (1 second ago)
"What is Mohammadanism?" It is a 7th century cult - that rejects all of the prophets and witnesses as revealed in the 1600 year record of YHWH to mankind, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years - to follow the 23 year 7th century record of A SINGLE mass murdering, prisoner abusing, terrorist, thief, as Muhammad is revealed through your own books.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE
TheAlsalaam (19 hours ago)
In the name of Allah SWT, Peace be on those which follow they way of truth!
Dear viewers are his answers contentment with his reply. In his whole claiming and replies is nothing nothing he replied, I also said to you that; that video of Ahmad deetad which you have sent me that is out context and really too much laughed me you not only denier of Qur'an even you deny from yourself Bible for keep yourself from truth. I think I refresh my comment to you are you blind for you nothing appears up to now. Now also you not leave these false faith, you are funny. What is your reply according to according to.... and "Through the mass murdering, prisoner abusing thief, Muhammad's followers are blasphemers of the one true God YHWH." How there are gods existing which you say this god that god. this poor man even don't know this that what Muslims believe of God. Wile you even don't know the Islam, Muslim, Jihad i.e your knowledge is very poor.
TheAlsalaam (19 hours ago)
Reread my comments clearly with open eyes that what I replied then you reply. And oh we are gave you a address www.evilbible.com you didn't talk about that even bit. So read again and rereply.
anyway he said on salaah maybe i not sent or sent but one reply was exist in my inbox I don't know from which channel had sent that I deleted from my Inbox, I don't know who sent it. If you not sent that OK I am sorry for that I accept it which i said sent to you but now watch;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=jB1pXFfrKfg
This debate on sallah whichis scienctificly, logical,... prove for you sallah is best act for I human why how... watch it if you really seeker of truth and also reply to my all claims we are waiting for your reanswer.
PeteWaldo (10 hours ago)
"...that video of Ahmad deetad which you have sent me that is out context and really too much laughed me..."
There is no "context" FOR DEEDAT'S FALSE BIBLE VERSE. Here is a test OF PERSONS for antichrist, from the same version and book that Ahmed DEEDAT PRETENDED to quote from when he recited his HOME MADE FALSE BIBLE VERSE to his adoring bible-ignorant minions.
1John 2:22 ... HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER
You think Deedat's lies are funny because you are filled with the spirit of antichrist, from the father of lies, through his prophet Muhammad. Read the REAL VERSE again. That's 1.5 billion antichrists in Muhammadanism alone! Even compelled to DISbelieve the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel of the Messiah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kCxOGGM5w
PeteWaldo (9 hours ago)
"And oh we are gave you a address evil bible you didn't talk about that even bit."
So then you believe Muhammad was just more ignorant than you, when in the 7th century after the Gospel had been translated into every popular language, copied tens of thousands of times, and had been read all over the known world for centuries, when Muhammad said...
Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEJ1hk4lH3U
PeteWaldo (40 minutes ago)
"What is your reply according to according to.... and "Through the mass murdering, prisoner abusing thief,..."
That is how Muhammad is revealed through your own books.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9FYYo5EINU
"...Muhammad's followers are blasphemers of the one true God YHWH." That's a simple matter of fact.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kCxOGGM5w
The NAME of the one true God of the scriptures is YHWH, and NOT the Quraish pagan's deity "Allah".
watch?v=IjFssul-1fk
en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Tetragrammaton
"How there are gods existing which you say this god that god." There's only ONE God YHWH.
Mark 12:29 ... The Lord our God is one Lord: ... 32 ... for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com
PeteWaldo (25 minutes ago)
You see, my friend, the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel is the crucifixion, death and resurrection of the Messiah, who saves all from sin who have faith in His shed blood. Just as the prophet Jesus Himself prophesied.
Matthew 20:17 And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them, 18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, 19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAQHFVn7H2Q
The powers of darkness through Muhammad, fills Mohammed's followers with complete resolve as to what to DENY. A "religion" that convinces it's followers as to what to DISbelieve.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3Bla8YwbU
PeteWaldo (3 minutes ago)
Just look at the foolishness in your featured video. Wasting all that time on a single verse, 1John 5:7 "...these three are one".
Matthew 28:18 And JESUS came and SPAKE UNTO THEM, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:
There are HUNDREDS of verses that describe the relationship between YHWH and His Son, the Messiah, Yeshua. Here are some in Arabic
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2538.0
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2539.0
Also tons of verses that mention the Spirit of God
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2575.0
Those are the three. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. But through the spirit of antichrist, Muhammad's followers are required to DISbelieve the Gospel and REJECT the very blood of the Lamb of God that would save them.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=1345.0
TheAlsalaam (50 minutes ago)
Peace be on those that follow the way of truth!
What I said you that you replied nothing yes nothing at all. Dear viewers he say what that "There is no "context" FOR DEEDAT'S FALSE BIBLE VERSE. Here is a test OF PERSONS for antichrist," I replied you that video you have sent me really too much laugh me not on Ahmad Deetad on your playing game, you know how they are made this video in first the Ahmad deetad's a description show and cut it after that start the reading many verses of Bible and say Ahmad Deetad which say that verse that is not exist in any Bible it means Deetad said lie, If you watch that video there not show you that reference which given by Ahmad Deetad in whole video I don't know what you get from these you not only denier of Qur'an even you deny and not accept your own verse of Bible.
TheAlsalaam (48 minutes ago)
. And he continues a great lie "from the same version and book that Ahmed DEEDAT PRETENDED to quote from when he recited his HOME MADE FALSE BIBLE VERSE to his adoring bible-ignorant minions." When he had parented? Which is? Where he had parented? Why you not show us which we know you are playing game are we? Dear viewers he will prove it which Ahmad Deetad had pretend to quote from when he recited his HOME MADE FALSE BIBLE VERSE to his adoring bible-ignorant minions. So he say we come back " Here is a test OF PERSONS for antichrist " So test is passed by Muhammad PBUH not only that in every scripture of world the coming of Muhammad PBUH is mentioned in your Bible many time mentioned about Last messenger so why you not believe on last messenger of God?
TheAlsalaam (45 minutes ago)
In my first and now also again I say why you deny from truth what happen on you? Why you not replied to my all replies? Dear brothers and sister he say next " And oh we are gave you a address evil bible you didn't talk about that even bit." So then you believe Muhammad was just more ignorant than you, "this is his reply what you said? Come come tell me what is it mean? Foolish. What is it mean you barked that so then you believe Muhammad was just more ignorant than you. What is this? Explain it that what it is belonging to www.evilbible.com. You know in last reply he gave me address to watch a video please you also watch that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE
PeteWaldo (32 minutes ago)
"So test is passed by Muhammad..." Only in the eyes of someone blinded by the spirit of antichrist, that follows the father of lies through his prophet. Read it again.
1John 2:22 ... HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER
watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc
Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah ...Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
brotherpete. com
More from the same version and book Deedat pretended to quote from
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.
1John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world. 15 Whosoever shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAQHFVn7H2Q
TheAlsalaam (28 minutes ago)
In first that title of video "Is Islam a religion?" I am asking so what is Islam? What is the meaning of title? When you watch that video very funny, in beginning star a sham story which have not any proof and reference any think which come i their mind willfully barking and right point of same story mixed with out of context and sham story of their self. Your all answers are foolish, barking and out of context, have not any proof. Now again and again I tell you to your open eyes read my replies and then answer to each of my claim specially for 1 john 1-2, evilbible.com, and oh have you watched that address of that video on salaah tell also about that on Mecca Sharif I will answer.
PeteWaldo (1 minute ago)
"In first that title of video "Is Islam a religion?" I am asking so what is Islam?" I answered that specific question just 7 of my posts ago. But in typical YouTube Muhammadan fashion, you ignore everything past the first page of channel comments. This is why I explained in our PMs that I don't waste my time with channel comments. When you are ready to ENGAGE in CONSTRUCTIVE dialog without character limitations, where we can quote each other and post live links, with a conveniently searchable record, why don't you put your big-boy pants on - like your buddy Naliakbar did - and come to the forum where I have copied and pasted the entirety of our conversation.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729.0
TheAlsalaam, please come join us here where we can continue our exchange. All I ask is you engage in an exchange. You ask a question of me and I respond specifically, then I ask a question of you, and you respond. Then we each continue answering, to the questions that each of our responses inspire.
Let me demonstrate how nicely the forum works in the next panel.
Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 06:42:03 AM
TheAlsalaam (45 minutes ago)
In my first and now also again I say why you deny from truth what happen on you? Why you not replied to my all replies? Dear brothers and sister he say next " And oh we are gave you a address evil bible you didn't talk about that even bit." So then you believe Muhammad was just more ignorant than you, "this is his reply what you said? Come come tell me what is it mean? Foolish. What is it mean you barked that so then you believe Muhammad was just more ignorant than you. What is this? Explain it that what it is belonging to www.evilbible.com. You know in last reply he gave me address to watch a video please you also watch that
watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE
I already explained it to you in the 4th item of the forum post at this link
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11189#msg11189
And I'll quote that 4th item to save you having to click on it....
Quote from: Peter on September 01, 2011, 08:02:55 PM
PeteWaldo (9 hours ago)
"And oh we are gave you a address evil bible you didn't talk about that even bit."
So then you believe Muhammad was just more ignorant than you, when in the 7th century after the Gospel had been translated into every popular language, copied tens of thousands of times, and had been read all over the known world for centuries, when Muhammad said...
Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.
watch?v=kEJ1hk4lH3U
See how easily accountable our words are? I had already explained it in the very item that you were quoting.
Let me expand in case you didn't understand.
You despise, mock and blaspheme Jesus and all of the prophets and witnesses of YHWH as revealed in His 1600 year record, that His people have followed through 2 covenants for 3500 years.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2714.0
Your link even calls the bible evil, even though it is what Muhammad preposterously pretended to base his EXACTLY OPPOSITE recitations on.
Yet to call the bible evil, is to label your own prophet, a foolish liar.
What does the Quran say about the bible? The following suras are from the popular Yusuf Ali English translation.
Sura 57.27 Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our messengers: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy.
Indeed Mohammed claimed to have been instructed by Allah about where to get his advice if he had doubts:
Sura 10:94
If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then
ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.
These verse were written
hundreds of years after the bible had been translated into every popular language, copied tens of thousands of time, and had been read all over the known world for centuries. Indeed we have over 5300 partial or complete manuscripts of God’s Word that were penned prior to 300 AD.
Sura 5:47
Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.
So TheAlsalaam do you believe Muhammad was a liar, or a fool, since you believe the bible is evil?That says that Christian's are specifically instructed by Mohammed to judge - that includes Islam - according to what God has revealed to us in the Gospel. Perhaps the most widely quoted verse in the Gospel is:
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
But the Quran says in surah 4:157
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";-
but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow,
for of a surety they killed him not:-In Jesus words from the gospel of Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Muslims believe Jesus to be a great prophet. What did Jesus prophesy?
Matthew 20:17 And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them, 18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, 19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm
It is painfully obvious that one of these prophets is a false prophet. Jesus that prophesied the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, or Muhammad that came along 6 centuries after the fact in the SW Arabian desert and declared the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel? A man that filled his followers with complete resolve as to what to DISbelieve. A religion based on what to DENY. To REJECT the very blood of the Lamb of God that would save them.
Sura 5:68 Say: "O People of the Book!
ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has
come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith.
Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
And Muslims are given similar instruction in sura 4:136
O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and
the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray.
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Some Muslims claim that the bible was corrupted, but this would be going directly against the Quran, let alone an admission that Allah didn't know the bible would be corrupted, before he inspired these verses.
Sura 48.29 ... This is their similitude in the Taurat; and
their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.
Mohammed's followers are filled with complete resolve as to what to DISbelieve. That Jesus wasn't sacrificed on the cross to save all those from sin who have faith in His shed blood. If the Scriptures were corrupted before the 7th century and Christians and Jews are condemned, then how could Mohammed's "Allah" have indicated the following - in the future tense - regarding Christians and Jews?
Sura 2.62 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and
those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,
shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (also 5.69)
Those "those who follow" not followed, "shall have" not are having, "shall be" no fear, all in the present or future tense to Mohammed.
Sura 80.13
(It is) in Books held (greatly) in honour, 14 Exalted (in dignity),
kept pure and holy, 15 (Written) by the hands of scribes- 16 Honourable and Pious and Just.
That was written during Mohammed's early Mecca days, so the books he referred to are necessarily the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians as they existed for hundreds of years before Mohammed. There were no "books" of Islam when Muhammad recited that.
Indeed Mohammed claimed he was supposed to confirm and guard those Scriptures according to sura 5:48 To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety:...
But given sura 4:157 above, it wouldn't seem to have accomplished that, since he WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel of the Messiah.
Do you trust God to show you the truth?
Allah instructs to believe in the scripture that came before Mohammed. How could a Muslim obey Allah's commandment to: "Believe in ... the scripture which He sent to those before (him)." if you haven't read those scriptures?
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm
Sura 5:43 But why do they come to thee for decision, when they have (their own) law before them?- therein is the (plain) command of Allah; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) People of Faith.
Why indeed.
Surah 2:106 (Asad)
Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar
one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything?
Are we to believe that God was in such a state of confusion that He had to annul and replace inspired verses in the Quran?
In the following pages the Gospel is copied from the King James Version which is the most widely quoted and respected English version in Christianity. It is also the version from which Ahmed Deedat used to quote. Why not read a little and trust Allah to "show you the truth of the matters"?
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it? 10 I the LORD search the heart, try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, [and] according to the fruit of his doings.
1Thessalonians 5:21
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
May God bless you and guide us ALL in ALL truth.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Link to the next page which contains the Gospel of John.
For discussion of the material in this website please join us in the forum by clicking here.
TheAlsalaam (1 hour ago)
What you said nothing what you replied nothing I wasted your time how? Appose I tell you, you waste your time with adding, making false videos and mislead the people really your all these activities which you Invite the people in the way of evil in spied of knowing truth way very well why? Shame a little, so you people right? How? What? You while know anything very well deny from truth why? Qur'an is truth; the great miracle is in face of you are you not seeing? Are you blind? Shame and woe be on denier of Qur'an and sings of Allah. You said a great lie of Ahmad Deetad, Ahmad Deetad and we are not your enemies we are you brother you not accept brother ok friends that show you the way of truth. You not replied to my replied on Ahmad Deetad which you have given me that false video. and you not reply to my yet a single point in both my replies and also you not replies for Salaah, leave these all even you don't know the meaning of Islam, Muslim, Jihad etc.. Muhammadan what is means? How?
PeteWaldo (1 hour ago)
"What is it mean you barked that so then you believe Muhammad was just more ignorant than you. What is this?"
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11194#msg11194
TheAlsalaam (49 minutes ago)
You not answer to even one of my questions. Why you deny from truth why? Allah say in Qur'an;
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watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE full (www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZÂyrnewE ) dear viewers he poor even don't know how he give a address for a person he gave in half. Anyway that lie video on Ahmad Deetad which you have sent me if you not full that debate so in my playlist is exist <<< The Qur'an or Bible..Which is God's word? >>>
Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 10:35:09 AM
TheAlsalaam (1 hour ago)
What you said nothing what you replied nothing I wasted your time how? Appose I tell you, you waste your time with adding, making false videos ......
Muhammadans often make this false accusation, but are not specific, because there are no lies in my videos. However you even eclipse that when, after you have been shown the plain truth repeatedly, refuse to believe that Deedat was a lying antichrist that even CREATED his own PHONY BIBLE VERSE to try to pretend that Muhammad was not antichrist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc
Here's the text version
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=335.0
Yet no matter how many times you are shown the simple truth regarding his lies, that I expose in my video, you will keep lying for, and defending, a lying antichrist like Deedat. That's because you follow the father of lies. Since your whole reality is a Muhammadan lie, you must necessarily judge the truth of the things of the one true God YHWH, to be lies.
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and
THE SON. 23
WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=624.0
Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 10:35:09 AM....... and mislead the people really your all these activities which you Invite the people in the way of evil in spied of knowing truth way very well why? Shame a little, so you people right? How? What? You while know anything very well deny from truth why? Qur'an is truth; .......
Since Muhammad WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel we can rest assured that Muhammad was a false prophet and his quran comes straight out of the pit of hell. Just look at the man you follow.
Bukhari:V5B59N448 "They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sa'd to give the verdict. Sad said, 'I give my judgment that
their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'"
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches.
They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
Tabari VIII:40 "
The Messenger of God
commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza.
Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence."
Bukhari:V5B59N459 I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, "
We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus."
Someone morally reprobate enough to not recognize this as rape, would have to believe that a woman would desire to have sex, with the very men responsible for beheading her husband, son and father. Yet stunningly some of Muhammad's followers still try to defend these obviously purely reprobate acts.
Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish
men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."
Murdering innocent Jewish farm boys who had just reached puberty
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2364.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0
Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 10:35:09 AM...... the great miracle is in face of you are you not seeing?
The one true miracle of Muhammad is that ANYONE in this information age, would reject the sinless Messiah, the Prince of Peace, the Lamb of God, and the love of the ONE true God of the scriptures, to follow a man who WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE, and whose own books reveal as a mass murdering, prisoner abusing, child doing, terrorist, thief.
"The Miracle of Muhammad"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm1oQ5lJrFQ
Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 10:35:09 AMAre you blind? Shame and woe be on denier of Qur'an and sings of Allah.
Since you reject ALL of the prophets and witnesses of the one true God YHWH as revealed in His 1600 year record, to believe the EXACT OPPOSITE through Muhammad's 23 year 7th century record, there is little question that "woe" will be on one of us. Do you suppose it's the follower the sinless Messiah, Yeshua, through His Gospel, or the follower of THE false prophet Muhammad and his alter-ego "Allah", which was a Quraish pagan deity?
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT
THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and
THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lEro81ygXQ
So why don't you honestly ask yourself who is to expect the greater "woe". Those of us that follow ALL of the prophets and witnesses of Yahweh as revealed through His 1600 year record that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years?
Or the followers of A SINGLE illiterate, 7th century mass murdering, child doing, prisoner abusing, terrorist, thief, who WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel?
Please watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lEro81ygXQ
Why don't you try reading the Gospel to learn about just what it is you despise? Here is a thread with links to an Arabic version.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/#bibles
Here is a movie version of the Gospel of John
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4T5uU9olko
Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 10:35:09 AMYou said a great lie of Ahmad Deetad, Ahmad Deetad and we are not your enemies we are you brother .......
I'm sorry but a blasphemous, lying antichrist like Deedat, will never be a brother of a son of God.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=335.0
Neither will an antichrist follower of his that rejects the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
http://www.brotherpete.com
Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 10:35:09 AM....... you not accept brother ok friends .......
I don't know whether you are simply that ignorant of Islam or you are practicing taqiyyah, but Muhammad prohibited his followers from making friends with Yahweh's people.
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe!
take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship)
is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe!
Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends
is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not
take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely
he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
http://www.israelinbibleprophecy.com/islam_friendship.htm
While I would be glad to be your friend, you are prohibited from being my friend, or
you become one of the kuffar. Muhammad was obviously terrified that his followers would hear the truth, and come to know the love of the ONE true God YHWH, through the truth of the Messiah, Yeshua.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him,
I am the way,
the truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 10:35:09 AM........ that show you the way of truth. You not replied to my replied on Ahmad Deetad which you have given me that false video.
You are bearing false witness. It is Deedat that IS THE LIAR, as my video meticulously demonstrates.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=335.0
Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 10:35:09 AMand you not reply to my yet a single point in both my replies and also you not replies for Salaah, leave these all even you don't know the meaning of Islam, Muslim, .......
They mean
ANTICHRIST.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.
1John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world. 15 Whosoever shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath BOTH the Father AND THE SON.
1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.
Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and
THE SON. 23
WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=624.0
Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 10:35:09 AM...... Jihad .......
I KNOW what Jihad is. The question is DO YOU?
Noble Qur'an:2:190 Footnote:
Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars.
By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped),
and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish.
Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.Sura 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise):
they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and
the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.
Tabari VI:133 "We pledge our allegiance to you and we shall defend you as we would our womenfolk. Administer the oath of allegiance to us, Messenger of Allah, for we are men of war possessing arms and coats of mail."
That they stole, from the productive Jewish tribe that manufactured them, after killing them.
"the religion of peace"
Ishaq:204/ Tabari VI:134 "'Men of the Khazraj, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man.' 'Yes,' they answered. 'In swearing allegiance to him
we are pledging ourselves to wage war against all mankind.'"
Ishaq:475 "Allah commanded that horses should be kept for His enemy in the fight so they might vex them. We obeyed our Prophet's orders when he called us to war.
When he called for violent efforts we made them. The Prophet's command is obeyed for he is truly believed.
He will give us victory, glory, and a life of ease. Quote from: Peter on September 02, 2011, 10:35:09 AM........ etc.. Muhammadan what is means? How?
A Muhammadan is a person that rejects ALL of YHWH's prophets and witnesses as revealed in His 1600 year record, to follow the cult of the 7th century false prophet Muhammad, who WAS as much the EXACT OPPOSITE of the sinless Messiah, the Prince of Peace, the Lamb of God, as Muhammad's 23 year 7th century record is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel of the Messiah. As you have already been shown in the "Is Islam a Religion?" video.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2461.0
PeteWaldo (59 minutes ago)
"You not answer to even one of my questions." That is a lie and you know it. I have answered question after question, but once they leave the first page you pretend the answers don't exist. Here are the answers to your most recent comment. (copy and paste and remove the spaces from after the dots)
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11196#msg11196
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11196#msg11196
TheAlsalaam (2 hours ago)
In the name of Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala, Peace be on those that follow the way of truth!
Dear viewers what he replied on my back reply which is " And oh we are gave you a address evil bible you didn't talk about that even bit." So then you believe Muhammad was just more ignorant than you, "this is his reply what you said? Come tell me what is it mean? Foolish. What is it mean you barked that so then you believe Muhammad was just more ignorant than you. What is this? Explain it that what it is belonging to www.evilbible.com " and he pasted in half of it. I asked you about www.evilbible.com not about Prophet PBUH.
By the way your address is error for prophet PBUH <<<brotherpete. Com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11194#msg11194 >>> I am sorry to say that I tried too much but it is error.
TheAlsalaam (2 hours ago)
Anyway your knowledge is very poor very poor, does you know about hadith or like that willfully anything is found in your idea yew barked? The prophet knowledge was this much which is not in today's one scientist. Allah had given them. Visit and watch with your open eyes <<<http://hamzarx.blogspot.comÂ/2011/01/hadith-in-light-of-scÂience.html >>>, < http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=1UWPDjwQf7Q > if I how much go on and on will never finish my lecture about knowledge of Prophet Muhammad PBUH still you not see and not believe? I don't what happened on you?
TheAlsalaam (1 hour ago)
Now come on the new reply on my ... read "You not answer to even one of my questions." That is a lie and you know it. I have answered question after question, but once they leave the first page you pretend the answers don't exist. Here are the answers to your most recent comment. (copy and paste and remove the spaces from after the dots)
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11196#msg11196 "
What you replied on which point? Tell me I asked you about so many things and questioned from you but you not answered so what you answered? I have asked you about meaning of Salaah, Jihad, Islam, Muslim, and many others so what you replied can you tell us? And about Bible mistakes, videos which I gave you. On Ahmad Deetad which you said lie he made false bible verse ...... and we replied you.
TheAlsalaam (1 hour ago)
What you replied? Nothing at all Just for 1 or 4 my claim you gave addresses upon addresses upon addresses to watch to read. Which have not any proof, reference, or is out of context that I can answer by help of Allah to all of them but you not answer for our questions, Videos which i gave their addresses so what you answer? Why you are cheating yourself? You so waste your time and our time too why what happened on you my dear brother? Give up pride and hate of devil from your heard and concepts and turn to that way which is true and do yourself free and peaceful from dark nesses and fidgetyies. And the God to his greatnesses.
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PeteWaldo (24 minutes ago)
Try it very carefully this time. You can see there are 3 spaces after the 3 dots in the address.
Copy and paste the link into the window at the top of your browser.
Then REMOVE THE 3 SPACES FROM AFTER THE 3 DOTS, and then push "enter" on your keyboard.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11196#msg11196
If it doesn't work this time try pasting it after the two slashes, and then remove the spaces and push enter.
PeteWaldo (5 minutes ago)
Then do the same with this one for further explanation, as to how YOU characterize YOUR OWN PROPHET as a liar or a fool, when you call the bible evil.
Copy paste and remove the 3 spaces from after the 3 dots.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11196#msg11194
PeteWaldo (9 seconds ago)
If you copy and paste your own links you will see they don't work. Full links get goofed up by YouTube when copy and pasted into channel comments. One way around this is to put spaces after the dots.
Quote from: Peter on September 04, 2011, 06:34:22 AM
What you replied on which point? Tell me I asked you about so many things and questioned from you but you not answered so what you answered? I have asked you about meaning of Salaah....
Muhammad copied the praying in vain repetitions 5 times a day from the second century occult cult of the Sabians. (along with their prostration to their moon god, ablution, and wearing long white robes)
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2475.0
Obligatory and compulsory Salaah is meaningless to the ONE TRUE GOD.
Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Quote from: Peter on September 04, 2011, 06:34:22 AM..... Jihad, .....
Which I answered toward the end of this thread post.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11196#msg11196
Quote from: Peter on September 04, 2011, 06:34:22 AMIslam, .......
Which in spite of what you have been taught, IN FACT means submission to the followers of Muhammad's 7th century cult, as explained in the "Is Islam a Religion?" video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE&feature=channel_video_title
And by the matter of fact that there is not a shred of evidence that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD. As meticulously detailed in it's own forum category.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=56.0
And the origins of Islam
http://www.petewaldo.com/origins_of_islam.htm
And as I detailed in my earlier replies to you in YouTube PMs.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11181#msg11181
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11185#msg11185
And your channel comments
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11186#msg11186
And even in your Q&A section where you asked
"Is Kaaba was existed befor Islam"
To which I replied
"There is NO historical or archaeological EVIDENCE that suggests that Mecca existed before the 4th century AD, when pagan immigrants from Yemen settled the area, or it's Kaaba before early 5th century, built for moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship.
PeteWaldo
, U.S."
Yet apparently because that answer was too honest and straight forward it was judged ....
"This submission has been removed because people believe it is inappropriate."
That censorship once again demonstrating that the simple truth "is inappropriate" for Muhammadans. Then seeing the trouble you caused for yourself you removed the question, I'm guessing, because you yourself came to understand the folly of searching for EVIDENCE that suggests that Mecca existed before the 4th century AD. And you wonder why I don't squander my time in YouTube channel comments any more when this is how truth is treated? Even followed by this hollow and empty comment
"same fool comment is there is no proof that Kaaba was existed befor Islam I laugh on them but I want to Know what is you Upion share with us."
Quote from: Peter on September 04, 2011, 06:34:22 AM...... Muslim, .....
Muslims are Muhammadans, because they reject all of the prophets and witnesses as revealed through Yahweh's 1600 year record, to instead follow Muhammad through his 23 year 7th century record as I explained previously in the channel comment copied at the bottom of this thread post
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11186#msg11186
Quote from: Peter on September 04, 2011, 06:34:22 AM...... and many others so what you replied can you tell us? And about Bible mistakes, videos which I gave you. On Ahmad Deetad which you said lie he made false bible verse ...... and we replied you.
But your reply was a lie, because Deedat was a lying antichrist. I answered to this repeatedly, but because you are filled with the spirit of antichrist, from following the father of lies through his prophet, and love to have your ears tickled by lying antichrists like Ahmed Deedat, you will likely never be able to see this lie, even though I thoroughly exposed it, and pointed out to you repeatedly.
In the YouTube PM copied at the bottom of this link
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11183#msg11183
And in the middle of the post at this forum thread
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11196#msg11196
Quote from: Peter on September 04, 2011, 06:34:22 AM
TheAlsalaam (2 hours ago)
Anyway your knowledge is very poor very poor, does you know about hadith or like that willfully anything is found in your idea yew barked? The prophet knowledge was this much which is not in today's one scientist. Allah had given them. Visit and watch with your open eyes <<<http://hamzarx.blogspot.comÂ/2011/01/hadith-in-light-of-scÂience.html >>>, < http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=1UWPDjwQf7Q > if I how much go on and on will never finish my lecture about knowledge of Prophet Muhammad PBUH still you not see and not believe? I don't what happened on you?
Always trying to support Muhammad through the idle words of men. Here's a forum thread that exposes the "science" of the Quran.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2639.0
Miracles of the Quran
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2394.0
I suppose that "science" also includes flying donkey-mules and talking ants.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=893.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2112.0
TheAlsalaam (21 hours ago)
So now he gives us correct address <<http://petewaldo.com/indexÂ.php?topic=2729.msg11196#msg11Â196>>
I visited and watch that all your replies which i have readied before same of them new, dear viewers that is very big website Mashallah anyway By God, I swear that laughed me too much too much I can control myself how a funny you know why? Again those problems please visit please visit, due to visit visit I tired but I enjoyed too much from his comic replies. So I didn't fount yet a single documentation, reference, strongest proof or such as like this same references of Qur'an which too with its mistranslated as I am Arab I knew otherwise I will too fall I misunderstandings, Anyway what is his definition about Jihad oh very funny
TheAlsalaam (21 hours ago)
" Noble Qur'an:2:190 Footnote: Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry......" Jihad means what fighting are you joking? So I say you visit and after laugh on yourself < http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=1fmpN7GRWqM > and your out of context reference about Qur'an shame and visit < http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=u0qxtjahdLs > and you do holy fighting ok. < http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=QGVLKW7ixjU >
answer on salaah Islam.......
PeteWaldo (55 minutes ago)
"So now he gives us correct address...." Same address as before, but now that you have copy and pasted it without spaces after the dots, it won't work any better than your YouTube links work. Just as I already explained twice before. I believe the reason your mind is demonstrated as being dysfunctional is from praying in the vain repetitions of the heathen 5 times a day.
"...which too with its mistranslated..."
Isn't it always the way. When a person points out that Muhammad told Christians to follow what is revealed to us in the Gospel, then it is blamed on a "bad translation". As if ALL 3 translations are wrong in the "friends" post. Same as when a person points out the ugly truth about Muhammad's, mass murder, child sexual abuse, prisoner rape, and thievery, his reprobate behavior is blamed on an uninspired hadith.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11196#msg11196
PeteWaldo (23 minutes ago)
"Jihad means what fighting are you joking?" I wish I were, because this is why Islam is a scourge on all mankind. With over 17,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11. See how you've reduced yourself to just blathering on with lies about your own books and religion?
"Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of weaponry."
Each of the 150 Hadiths that follow this definition of Jihad speak of fighting; NONE suggest a spiritual struggle. Any Muslim who suggests Islam is a religion of peace is either an ignorant dupe and patsy for the fundamentalists, or is engaging in taqiyyah - that is, lying in the way of Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah".
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2364.0
PeteWaldo (18 minutes ago)
"Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape this duty dies as a hypocrite."
Any Muslim male that believes that Islam is a religion of peace, and does fulfill his obligation of slaughtering non-muslims in the cause of Muhammadanism, IS A HYPOCRITE.
Now why don't you grow up, put your big boy pants on, and join me in the forum, so I don't have to keep repeating myself, but can offer links to the answers I already gave you. Then maybe you can try answering responsively, rather than the useless drivel you have spewed out in the last many posts. All we ask is that forum members ENGAGE in an EXCHANGE.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729.0
PeteWaldo (1 minute ago)
"answer on salaah Islam....." God answered to that as I already showed you in this post.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11204#msg11204
Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Muhammad copied praying in vain repetitions 5 times a day from the 2nd century occult cult of the Sabians, along with their prostrating themselves to their moon god, and fasting for 30 days in the month that begins and ends with the crescent moon (again because they worshiped the moon god).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3Bla8YwbU
He also copied ablution from them and the long white robes used in Islam's mock of the Quraish pagan rituals of the Hajj and Umrah in which they worshiped the moon, sun, stars and jinn devils among others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWy5KaFvbU
Now why don't you put your big boy pants on and come join me in the forum?!
brotherpete. com/index. php
TheAlsalaam (36 minutes ago)
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Peace is on those that follow the way of truth!
Hay dear viewers by Allah it take oath that laugh me to his answers, How funny and foolish answers which have not any proof and reference you know what his means of his answer on Jihad it means Holy War (fighting) I have seen in my life first time like you cheat and denier and too fools, Have you seen those references which I gave you. Did you watch those two addresses? I strongly claim that you didn't watch yet a single of these all. Otherwise your all answers of your questions are in these but you don't watch and you are denier so what we can do? You know what he claimed absurd, his means Islam was spread by sword? If you really want to see so watch with your open eyes and too reply about this but will be with proof.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=03McaCo-UPQ
TheAlsalaam (35 minutes ago)
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Then you barked on salaah without any proof anything is which found in your mind willful you say shame on you. Did you watch that video? Answer no. why if you have seen so now you would not bark like this? This is watch with your open eyes blind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=jB1pXFfrKfg And ha answer also after watching OK!
Let's come to your other death claim which without knowledge what you said "answer on salaah Islam....." God answered to that as I already showed you in this post.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11204#msg11204
TheAlsalaam (35 minutes ago)
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Then you barked on salaah without any proof anything is which found in your mind willful you say shame on you. Did you watch that video? Answer no. why if you have seen so now you would not bark like this? This is watch with your open eyes blind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=jB1pXFfrKfg And ha answer also after watching OK!
Let's come to your other death claim which without knowledge what you said "answer on salaah Islam....." God answered to that as I already showed you in this post.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11204#msg11204
TheAlsalaam (35 minutes ago)
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Matthew 6:7 but when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking......." I say you why? you and with your Bible fools Verse which have not any logic didn't know why we pray 5 time very funny verse visit and answer why we pray 5 time answered only at 5 minutes and 2 minutes visited both.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=Bfvw8i_Sg7o&feature=related (after watch reply for it too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=WpSMdOpSgoA (after watch reply for it also)
So we are laughing on your funny pray and also with your this comic verse of Bible what is? Matthew 6:7. Good joke
TheAlsalaam (33 minutes ago)
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Let's come to other " Now why don't you put your big boy pants on and come join me in the forum?!
brotherpete. com/index. php " What's it mean are you not seeing blind? you not watching the signs of Allah?
why i paste that? while you in spade of seeing great miracle Qur'an you are denier so how you be bring faith on it? By Allah laugh me for your these foolish replies, Any way let's come on that massage which I have sent for you today reply for those point also don't forget these points are a few of a few references of Bible there are to much shit in Bible like rape your sister rape you daughter not only this rape your mother..... too much things if a start the giving references so..........
TheAlsalaam (21 minutes ago)
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You know I have given you a addresses t watch about Prophet Muhammad PBUH and you didn't answer in place on reply you repeated your that barking. shame the miracle hadiths which are scientific how he had knowledge? Answer; Allah was given for he. Any way you know viewers he start the debate like a game copy from hare and pate in his audience to show them there are debates very funny why you not pate your answer also hare which we reply you? He said lie of Ahmad Deetad very funny can you pate that answer also hare please. no address pate that original and also tell you Jihad means strive if you not want that addresses to watch or you not dare if you watch answer again ok! For now Peace be on those that follow the way of truth.
None of the links to videos that he accuses me of not watching, could be copy and pasted, as I repeatedly told him. You can't paste a link into YouTube channel comments without it getting goofed up. Not that I would have watched more, than the first couple of minutes of the one that I repaired the link to and did watch, as I have seen the nonsense all before in nearly 4 YouTube years. The "miracles" of Muhammad like the moon splitting, and the "science" of the Quran, like the sun setting in a pool of muddy water, flying donkey-mules and talking ants.
And of course, in typical Muhammadan fashion, he ups the volume of empty hollow posts, in efforts to flush my posts off of the first page of channel comments, so in efforts to leave his embarrassment behind. If this wasn't the effort, then how can so many posts be posted, that possess virtually no content?
As I mentioned in the original post, for reasons that would become obvious, it is pointless to post in channel comments. The result is always the same. You answer all their questions, and they don't answer a single one of yours. They can't because the answers demonstrate Muhammad's stand-alone 7th century religion to be exactly that. STAND-ALONE.
Fortunately the time isn't all wasted, because rather than being flushed out of sight, we have a nice record of the chat in the forum.
TheAlsalaam (12 hours ago)
hay where you kept?
jefeisdguard (9 hours ago)
You have given quite a bit of information in the PM you sent to me. In fact, have included Dr Campbell in your queries. But my question is: so what? How does this exonerate you from knowing I have PROVED Islam is false? Dr. Norm Geisler's has proved 830 alleged bible errors as NON errors. See(watch?v=j9msNOuPap4)
Proving the bible false doesnt make sense when Islam is in trouble for being FALSE! How so, you ask? Muhammad! Who can PROVE Muhammad is a prophet thru the bible, if Islam believes he is in the bible?
How do we allegedly share dieties when urs has NO image & NO name? Ours? YHWH-ELOHIM has created us in His own image as stated in Gen 1:26-27 & Gen 9:6
PeteWaldo (2 hours ago)
Watch his reaction jefeisdguard. No matter how many times you show TheAlsalaam this verse - out of the same King James Version that Deedat PRETENDED to quote from but recited his own FAKE BIBLE VERSE - TheAlsalaam refuses to admit the ugly truth.
1John 2:22 ... HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER
Instead he chooses to believe Deedat's PHONY HOMEMADE VERSION of the King James Bible!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc
Isn't it amazing how powerfully blinded by the spirit of antichrist the people of the prince of the power of the air are?
TheAlsalaam (1 hour ago)
Peace be on those that follow the way of truth!
In first answer to our dear brother channel < jefeisdguard > said
"You have given quite a bit of information in the PM you sent to me. In fact, have included Dr Campbell in your queries. But my question is: so what? How does this exonerate you from knowing I have PROVED Islam is false? Dr. Norm Geisler's has proved 830 alleged bible errors as NON errors. See(watch?v=j9msNOuPap4)
your all answer is in there if you really want your answer you dare to visit and also after watch tell us what you got from bible < www.youtube.com/watch?v=52DZg1ÂucofM > and < www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3do0ÂTLv6o&feature=results_video&plÂaynext=1&list=PL634D73F5946FA8Â10 >
TheAlsalaam (1 hour ago)
Let's go on other point what you said "Proving the bible false doesn't make sense when Islam is in trouble for being FALSE! How so, you ask? Muhammad! Who can PROVE Muhammad is a prophet thru the bible, if Islam believes he is in the bible?
How do we allegedly share deities when an urn has NO image & NO name? Ours? YHWH-ELOHIM has created us in His own image as stated in Gen 1:26-27 &Gen 9:6 " We never believe the Prophet Messenger trough they bible or any scripture anyway you tell me you strongly believe Bible is words of God? if answer is yes so how God's book is full of mistakes, errors and foolish absurd verses how tell us and 2nd If I prove the prophet Muhammad PUBH trough the your bible will you bring faith on him?
I never answer you answer I prove OK?
TheAlsalaam (1 hour ago)
Then what you said images..... we not want to insult our prophet beauty with made sham images he was so beautiful too much people which dreamed him the fell in love f visiting to him it is not easy to visit him or any messenger like Jesus....... same lucky people get chance to visit them. For more lecture if you want I will give but now sorry brother I have to answer for other also peace be on you.
PeteWaldo (1 hour ago)
Nor can Deedat's FAKE VERSE be passed off as an error because IT FORMS THE WHOLE BASIS OF HIS LIE, and he REPEATS HIS LIE ON OTHER OCCASIONS, so we can rest assured that it was his intent to DECEIVE his bible-ignorant adoring minions like TheAlsalaam
I PROVE HIS FAKE VERSE TO BE A LIE in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc
DEEDAT REPEATS HIS LIE, and DUPES ANOTHER BUNCH of his bible-ignorant followers, again in this completely different venue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKMMr4lZx2E
We can see from the real verse that not only was Muhammad an ANTICHRIST, but Ahmed Deedat and TheAlsalaam and 1.5 billion more of Muhammad's victims ARE ALL ANTICHRISTS!
And the only answer they offer? ESCALATING BLASPHEMY against the ONE TRUE GOD YHWH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kCxOGGM5w
PeteWaldo (3 minutes ago)
[[[Let's go on other point what you said "Proving the bible false doesn't make sense when Islam is in trouble for being FALSE!]]]
As aptly demonstrated by your prostration to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol 5 times a day, and marching around the Kaaba like the Quraish pagan moon, sun, and star worshipers did. And running back and forth between Al-Safa and Al-Marwah the way the Arabian jinn devil worshipers did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWy5KaFvbU
PeteWaldo (1 minute ago)
[[[[How so, you ask? Muhammad! Who can PROVE Muhammad is a prophet thru the bible, if Islam believes he is in the bible?]]]
Muhammadans believe, they believe in Jesus too! But the FACT IS THEY BLASPHEME JESUS and all the witnesses of Yahweh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGCvDjR3S10
That nonsense about Muhammad in the bible is simply more lies from deceivers like Deedat's self-described disciple Naik that feed your self-deception with this pure nonsense. We have a whole forum section devoted to dispelling their foolish lies and blasphemy.
brotherpete. com/index. php?board=33.0
Indeed Islam can't even be called a religion, when it's provably a cult that follows Muhammad. That's what makes you a Muhammadan. Pity sakes, Mecca never even existed before the 4th century AD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE
reply to http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11209#msg11209
Quote from: Peter on September 05, 2011, 03:03:38 PM
TheAlsalaam (3 hours ago)
Peace be on you that follow the why of truth!
Now your new reply very funny and without proof i have sent you 22 points of Bible what you replied nothing appose jumped on other point Hadith, You first should replied to point after you have told me about Hadith let's what say the Ahmad Deetad which he did for 50 years Jihad and have more than 500 debates with Christian scholar these all not found yet a single reference lie from Ahmad Deetad rather they also couldn't answer for many foolish of Bible which have referred by Ahmad Deetad, I am asking you your yet a one scholar which know whole Bible they can say that they say lie so how you say where is your prove? Nothing, nothing at all that words of Bible which was said by Ahmad Deetad they say that verse you said not in Bible yes If I show you so do I black you face? I have seen like you great liar shame a little
Isn't that funny? No matter how many times you warn them and predict their behavior for them in advance (second item down in this post http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11216#msg11216 )
....they still find it irresistible to support their lying antichrist, that preyed on their ignorance.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=335.0
Quote from: Peter on September 05, 2011, 03:03:38 PMTheAlsalaam (3 hours ago)
1 John4:1-2 that verse is which Ahmad Deetad gave reference that is this visit blind
http://www.blueletterbible.orgÂ/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=4&t=KJV# (after readings reply us)
And what he shows us the Bible verse that is not KJV, .........
Deedat was pretending to quote from the KJV. But Deedat's verse, of course, does not exist
in ANY bible translation, because it is a PHONY, HOMEMADE INVENTION of Deedat's overactive imagination.
Here is what scripture says.
1John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.
1John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world. 15 Whosoever shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
2John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath BOTH the Father AND THE SON.
1John 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.
Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?
1John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
2Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, EVEN DENYING THE LORD THAT BOUGHT THEM, AND BRING UPON THEMSELVES SWIFT DESTRUCTION.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.
Do those verses contradict, or compliment, each other? Any ambiguity?
Your choice - the Son of God or the wrath of God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lEro81ygXQ
Quote from: Peter on September 05, 2011, 03:03:38 PM......... My dear viewer actually Bible is very funny you Know in every year in it's verse IS added and same changed So we confuse that what is real words of a verse very funny. The proof Muhammad is in Bible visit and after that tells us what is your comment
http://www.irf.net/index.php?oÂption=com_content&view=articleÂ&id=205&Itemid=101
Ahmad Deetad was a lion of Islam which pointed of and caught the pollution and foolish of Bible those they are do false propaganda actually they fear and truth burns their hearts Ahmad Deetad is a lion.
By the way did you saw also full debate of that debate if not saw so had given you in last repies so why you not saw why? if you not saw so but if you saw so why you deny from truth why?
Any ambiguity in those verses? That's 1.5 billion antichrists - in Islam alone.
TheAlsalaam (3 hours ago)
you do false propaganda that also backbite to mislead the people shame on you. He didn't reply with proof and truth for our yet a single point you know i give 22 point and he didn'r reply.
I replied in both PM and channel comments. I even added another 121 to the 22 alleged contradictions.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.msg11217#msg11217
Quote from: Peter on September 05, 2011, 03:03:38 PMWe tell them and replied you didn't repied. I replied about Jihad and Holy war he didn't replied.
I replied repeatedly.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11196#msg11196
It did lead me to add a section to a web page though. There is usually a few constructive things that come out of the exercise gained through these chats.
http://www.petewaldo.com/religion_of_peace.htm#hadith_jihad
Quote from: Peter on September 05, 2011, 03:03:38 PMI give you a wibste address which pointed out the foolish of bible with proof but he didn't reply.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11194#msg11194
Quote from: Peter on September 05, 2011, 03:03:38 PMYou viewers know what he barked about Muslim meaning from his idea wich have not any proof and also laughed me to much, hay blind and denier of truth the muslim meaning is this visit << http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=H-Muw_e0Iyc (after watching reply us about it) Not only meaning but also mintioned in Bible the words "Muslim"
TheAlsalaam (1 hour ago)
The word muslim is believed to be in Luke 6:40. Translated from the aramaic of luke .....
Always constructive to start with a false premise.
Quote from: Peter on September 05, 2011, 03:03:38 PM..... into hebrew ....
Well gee, if we take the Koine Greek, and see if we can find a similarity in Aramaic, and then try to morph that into Hebrew, and then into pop-7th century Arabic http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2561.0 ...... yea like dat like dat! Now we find the word Muslim in bible! That must mean that Muhammad was right when he declared the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel!
Quote from: Peter on September 05, 2011, 03:03:38 PM..... as she'MUSHLAM. The ancient greek katartizw (καÏ,,αÏÏ,,ίζω) root for kathrtismenoV (καÏ,,ηÏÏ,,ισμένοÏ,) is translated into to arabic as "baseera". Where as if we were to translate it to the aramaic as it is in the English as perfect, then it would be as OaMSHaMLaYaA and then into hebrew as she'MUSHLAM, and then into arabic, the term used in luke 6:40 would be muslim rather than baseera. The only thing differentiating whether which translation is true, is whether the perfection is spiritual or worldly. Baseera would be the reference to worldly perfection, or muslim as in spiritual perfection.
As made so obvious not only by the verses above, but by the fact that their own books reveal the man that they follow as an imperialistic conquering, mass murdering, child doing, female prisoner abusing, thief!
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2276.0
Even prescribing the terms for pimping out one's sex slaves.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0
Quote from: Peter on September 05, 2011, 03:03:38 PMOf course the translation here in the aramaic of luke 6:40 is given as D'aG,MiYR and this conotates to being fufil, mature, perfect,
That nonsense speaks loudly for itself. They fantasize around a single word in scripture as though it puts Muslims in the Gospel, when MUSLIMS BELIEVE THE EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. Doing ANYTHING rather than having to face the fundamentals of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, or the pagan roots of Islam and absence of history of Mecca prior to the Christian era.
Quote from: Peter on September 05, 2011, 03:03:38 PM
TheAlsalaam (1 hour ago)
, acomplish according to the roots and is mostly a verb. OaMSHaMLaYaA is a Participle Adjective or adjective. But if we look at the kathrtismenoV (καÏ,,ηÏÏ,,ισμένοÏ,) we note that it's mood is a participle.
http://www.greekbible.com/l.phÂp?katarti/zw_v--xppnsm-_p
http://www.pesh*tta.org/cgi-biÂn/lexicon.cgi - search for perfect in english and rymgd in aramaic
http://www.pesh*tta.org/pdf/LuÂqach6.pdf
Even so if search the pesh*tta lexicon for the 'aramaic word' Ml4m you will find all the terms and meaning that translate and use the same root and prefix to the arabic "muslim".
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_tÂhe_word_Muslim_in_the_bible#ixÂzz1XKKuLkiB
PeteWaldo (27 seconds ago)
Copy paste and remove the 3 spaces from after the 3 dots
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11227#msg11227
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
TheAlsalaam (1 day ago)
Yes don't worry i every day check your foolish answers ......
Good! So then I will continue to post the link in your comments so other viewers can find the answers to your "points".
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM...... So what was leaved ha even words Islam meaning exist in Bible if you but words Christianity is not in whole Bible visit < http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=gVpbLVnUkSo > after watching tell us what you got, Salaah; My dear viewers you know that i have given them the videos to watch about salaah which he didn't watch but reply very funny verse of bible that even bit logic is not appears from that so laugh please on this verse < Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. > come come tell me what scientific point or logical points is in it ........
The point is that Muhammad's followers pray in vain repetitions just as the Sabians, the Zoroastrians and the Quraish pagans that Muhammad copied.
It is certainly illogical to pray this way when we are instructed how to pray.
1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.
You'd wind up with a pretty big scab on your forehead if you tried carrying out your day with your forehead on the floor, and your butt pointed toward the heavens.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM....... while I also answered to watching 2 videos why we offer salaah 5 times.
Just as the monotheistic Sabian moon god worshipers did that Muhammad copied it from.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2475.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2461.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMSo we are laughing on your this dirty and illogical verse of Bible.
Obviously believing your own "prophet" to have been a fool for reciting IN THE 7TH CENTURY
Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1705.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
TheAlsalaam (1 day ago)
you answer for these not only this even THIS World Islam is in the bible but words of Christianity is not in the whole bible .......
Act 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people.
And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
Act 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.
1Pe 4:16 Yet if [any man suffer] as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
In the English language the suffix "ity" applied to "Christian" indicates a - "state or quality of being A"
This site can help you with your vocabulary building
http://www.uefap.com/vocab/build/building.htm
For nearly 2,000 years, "CHRISTians" have been those of us that follow Jesus CHRIST, the Messiah, through the Gospel.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM....... visit and after watching answer < http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=gVpbLVnUkSo > so Qur'an is the words of god ......
Sorry, but just as the mass murdering, child doing, female prisoner abusing, thief Muhammad was the EXACT OPPOSITE of the sinless Messiah, it's no surprise that his 23 year 7th century record from the SW Arabian desert, declares the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2748.0
ONE MUST CHOOSE. The 1600 year record of Yahweh to mankind through ALL of His prophets and witnesses that His people have followed through 2 covenants for 3500 years, or the EXACT OPPOSITE through Muhammad's adopted and adapted pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=56.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM....... and those deny fro it is fact (woe be on denier of Qur'an) whole
So back he said Ahmad Deetad made false Bible ......
No I PROVED he created his own phony bible verse pretending he was quoting it from the King James version, and deceived his adoring bible-ignorant followers into believing Muhammad was not antichrist.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=335.0
Look at these verses in this prior reply to you again.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11227#msg11227
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM...... he did Jihad around of the whole world more than 1000 debate ......
Debate is the perfect lair of liars. When I was in school, the state of the art of debate was when a person could convince a whole room full of people that something was true, when their own common sense should have told them it was patently false.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM....... with your scholar they didn't know that he made false Bible ......
No, they were too courteous to outshout him. Many Christian scholars tried to correct him in private, where he wouldn't suffer the embarrassment, but he just kept on repeating his lies. Eventually, perhaps, the Lord may have finally closed his mouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-_20sjHVI
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM...... how you know prove that he said lie rather you said lie you face be black dirty.
I know, and proved, that Deedat was a liar because the very book that he pretended to quote from makes him a liar.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and
the Son. 23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
God made both you and Deedat and 1.5 billion poor deluded souls in the world today, liars.
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not
God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMHe was lion of Islam ......
Indeed a hero of Muhammadanism. A consummate liar among liars, that follow the father of lies, through his prophet Muhammad.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM...... and all religious scholars were feared from his truths.
What Christian would fear those who follow repackaged pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship rituals, in a town that never even existed before the 4th century AD, through a book that itself admits to lying?
2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMWhy you not show the lie of your scholar which really was said lie why?
A bit too non-specific for me to even know what you are talking about.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMI have sent you 22points and you didn't reply for yet a one of them .......
I replied, and even added another 121 of those silly "contradictions" that antichrists claim regarding scripture for you to post with the rest of your lies.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0
All you had to do was Google up the answers to Naik's nonsense.
http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Naik/biblecontras.htm
But instead you want to engage in useless chatter to nonsense that's already been answered, so you can run and hide from THE FACT that Muhammadanism is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. I posted a sneak peek of the text of my next video just for you, because it answers to WHY you believe what you do. Tell me my friend, does this concept sound familiar to you?
"He appeared, then, on earth as a man, to the nations of these powers, and wrought miracles. Wherefore he did not himself suffer death, but Simon, a certain man of Cyrene, being compelled, bore the cross in his stead; so that this latter being transfigured by him, that he might be thought to be Jesus, was crucified, through ignorance and error, while Jesus himself received the form of Simon, and, standing by, laughed at them."
SIMON MAGNUS, GNOSTICISM, EBIONITES & ISLAM
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2749.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM..... you can't reply so you say this is false verses? When you can reply so this will be your reply which these are false verse false verse...so which is real?
TheAlsalaam (1 day ago)
Laugh on them dear viewers laugh you fools Bible what got from Bible that you up to now put Holy for it? Rather you should use non-Holy Bible why I said my replies.
So then you are claiming Muhammad is a liar.
Sura 80.13
(It is) in Books held (greatly) in honour, 14 Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy,15 (Written) by the hands of scribes- 16 Honourable and Pious and Just.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMYou must reply to each of my points ......
All answered, and repeatedly in the prior posts. That's why I created the record. This way folks would know you were lying when you said I didn't answer you. I'll reply to each one specifically, one by one, in the following.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM...... in last at this much long debate he and me he didn't reply to yet a single of my points and replies he replied but sorry out of point all are watching, watching and gave addresses and I poor read and watched all you know I not found in these all videos yet a single reply of my point which be strong proof are had references all was like a was barking very funny very very funny so those all point are these which he didn't reply and answered, added commented after watching to yet of them all point are these;
TheAlsalaam (1 day ago)
1: Salaah programming towards righteousness < www.daawaskills.com/2011/06/05Â/zakir-naik-salah-programming-Âtowards-righteousness >
Salaah is praying in vain repetitions of the heathen just as the 2nd century occult cult of the Sabians, and the Zoroastrians, and the Arabian pagan Quraish that Muhammad copied did.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2475.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
2: Why we offer salaah 5 times in a day < www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpSMdOÂpSgoA and www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfvw8iÂ_Sg7o&feature=related >
You offer it 5 times a day because Muhammad copied the Sabians.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2475.0
Surely you don't believe it's because Muhammad rode on a flying donkey-mule one night to Jerusalem, the "paradise" of his imagination, and back to Mecca by morning! No coincidence that the Zoroastrians fabled prophet, rode to the dwelling place of his immortal ancestors on a mythical flying camel. Not to mention Pegasus. At least these groups had the good sense not to believe an actual man alive at the time was the center of their fables. After Muhammad told his tall tale his followers left his cult because of his nonsense, and he was compelled to leave town for Medina. So what's with Muhammad's followers believing this nonsense in this 21st century information age?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1253.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
3: what is the meaning of Jihad < www.youtube.com/watch?v=klFib4Ânid7g , www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cXp-AÂ27Xgk >
We all know what jihad is.
http://www.petewaldo.com/jihad.htm
Sahih Al-Bukhari - "Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its Pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah is made superior and He becomes the only God who may be worshiped. By Jihad Islam is propagated and made superior. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position. Their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, and Muslim rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape this duty dies as a hypocrite." page 580 of Maktba Dar-us-Salam's Sahih Al-Bukhari
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
4: what Islam means? Islam words meaning even existing in Bible < www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ne5OkÂlURTk and http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=2D_qc58WCQw >
Islam means submission. And since Muhammad's followers are compelled to believe the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel we can rest assured that their submission is to the darkenss of the prince of the power of the air. Just as the Quraish were that performed the same pagan rituals in Mecca that Muhammad adopted and adapted.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=148.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
5: Muslim means.... Jesus was a Muslim < http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=ZqrspYGIUDo >
Muslim means the same as Muhammadan.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2134.0
Followers of Muhammad.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2656.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
6: Word Muslim exists in Bible which I answered.
To which I already replied so there is no sense in repeating this same nonsense.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
7: The Bible is same like dustbin which in that Garbage means Bible is full of absurd, illogical, foolish, nonsense points and stories that is the bible's verse duty.
Again calling your own "prophet" a fool for saying in THE 7TH CENTURY
Sura 5:68 Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1704.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
TheAlsalaam (22 hours ago)
8: Basic teachings of Bible are rape and kill the other faith followers, ......
After 1600 years of a changing and developing mankind, Yahweh gave us His final revelation through His Messiah, Yeshua, the Lamb of God, the Prince of Peace.
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Yahweh's final prescription for atonement of sin.
Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Regarding how Yahweh revealed Himself in mankind's beginnings, when we were little more than desert dwelling nomads, He gave the Canaanites 400 years to repent of their wicked ways before He gave the order to have them exterminated, so their poison wouldn't Effect the future of humanity. Like Muhammad's poison has indoctrinated 1.5 billion antichrists. The records of these historical events are a lesson that Muslims and atheists don't get. They are certainly not instructions to call others at their personal whim to mass murder, rape and steal the property of others as Muhammad did. Specifically UNLIKE Abraham. Muhammad always the EXACT OPPOSITE.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2075.0
No surprise that you would consider idolaters that even sacrificed children to idols as "other faith followers" since you prostrate yourself to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol 5 times a day. And the sacrifice of children to idols as "other faith followers", when Muhammad's own father nearly sacrificed Muhammad in jinn devil worship, to the idols he placed on Al-Safa and Al-Marwah.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1209.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM....... Even Bible teaching you rape your own sister if you want, not only this it give you details how to rape her, 2nd rape your own daughter if want you rape her so rape her.
Incest has been unlawful among Yahweh's people since Moses, however is specifically lawful among Muhammadans, because in the 7th century Muhammad practiced it himself and sanctioned the practice among his followers.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1844.msg7482#msg7482
"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom God, has assigned to thee; and
daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts..."
With predictably disastrous results.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1844.msg7612#msg7612
"Across the Arab world today an average of 45 percent of married couples are related, according to Dr. Nadia Sakati, a pediatrician and senior consultant for the genetics research center at King Faisal Specialist Hospital in Riyadh.
In some parts of Saudi Arabia, particularly in the south, where Mrs. Hefthi was raised, the rate of marriage among blood relatives ranges from 55 to 70 percent, among the highest rates in the world, according to the Saudi government."
Please watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2w4zAken08
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
9: you not answer to www.evilbible.com
I have repeatedly ad-nauseum. If you believe the bible is evil, then you believe Muhammad was evil for lying to you.
Sura 80.13 (It is) in Books held (greatly) in honour, 14 Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy,15 (Written) by the hands of scribes- 16 Honourable and Pious and Just.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1704.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
10: you not answered to 22 point of bible mistakes .......
You are an antichrist parrot, for the lying antichrist parrot and self-admitted disciple of Islam's consummate lying antichrist Ahmed Deedat, whose name is Zakir Naik.
All you have to do is Google this stuff if you really want answers. But as is obvious throughout this chat through your ignoring answers, you don't have an interest in answers at all.
http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Naik/biblecontras.htm
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM........ which we pointed out not only that there are more than 800 only mistakes.
All nonsense.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMHow can Bible words of God have mistakes?
You mean like Muhammad having made such a contradictory mess of his recitations that he himself had to invoke a doctrine of abrogation?
2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
11: Mecca was existed before Islam and after Ibrahim Kalilullah that was been temple of Mushrkin But when the prophet came Mecca got clean from the foolish setting of Idolaters which the warship statues even Bible is witness of this watch and reply to it < www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Ib4rÂhGTW0 >
As I suggested over and over again, why don't you try copy and pasting your own link, and then tell me if it worked for you.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
TheAlsalaam (22 hours ago)
12: he said Ahmad Deetad made false Bible he did Jihad around of the whole world more than 1000 debate with your scholar they didn't know that he made false Bible how you know prove that he said lie rather you said lie you face be black dirty.
Poor TheAlsalaam's mind is so broken by praying in the vain repetitions of the heathen, that he keeps repeating the same things over and over that have already been answered repeatedly. Also demonstrating that he can't even remember a comment he posted on the same day, that he himself has spammed onto page 2 of his channel comments.
Same old black on my face for proving that Ahmed Deedat was a lying antichrist.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11242#msg11242
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMHe was lion of Islam and all religious scholars were feared from his truths. Why you not show the lie of your scholar which really was said lie why? I have sent you 22points and you didn't reply for yet a one of them you can't reply so you say this is false verses?
Maybe if I just keep copy and pasting the same replies to his repetition he will begin to recognize it.
You are an antichrist parrot, for the lying antichrist parrot and self-admitted disciple of Islam's consummate lying antichrist Ahmed Deedat, whose name is Zakir Naik.
http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Naik/biblecontras.htm
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMWhen you can reply so this will be your reply which these are false verse false verse...so which is real? Actually you blinded.
No, my friend, it is you that is blinded to the truth of the one true God Yahweh, by the false prophet Muhammad and his alter ego - the Quraish pagan's - "Allah".
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2693.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
13: Mecca actually the name of a village which means a place full of peace and blessing today also same place called by different named from its meaning like "Ù...صر" called Egypt, "Arabia" called in Persian Arabistan, "India" called Hindustan, i.e.
It's just a shame that Mecca didn't exist before the 4th century AD, making Muhammadanism a PROVABLE PILE OF POPPYCOCK, all CREATED by a bunch of semi-literate 7th and 8th century SW Arabian desert dwellers.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=56.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMTheAlsalaam (19 hours ago)
same way The Hindus scripture also are witnesses of this Mecca was exist from beginning of world 1500 yrs ago < http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=zGt9cfZ18b0 > In Veda called Mecca Samballah which mean I said.
14: Qur'an is the words of Allah science accept this .......
Sure, scientists accept the Quran since it is unhistorical and a provably false failure, through history, the science of archaeology and geography.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM....... not only moreover the accept the Qur'an is full of signs and help us in coming time also 'coz there are many verse of Qur'an that even science is unable to stay about that.
15: Jesus is not god or son of god Jesus never said clear in whole Bible that I am God or worship me.
Why would you think the one true God of the universe, Yahweh, would be under an obligation to quote a foolish Greek sophist styled entertainer, and consummate lying antichrist, like Ahmed Deedat?
Rev 1:7 Behold,
he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and
they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=570.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=40.0
That you choose not to worship Him, but instead blaspheme Him, is your choice. That's why He gave us free will and the opportunity to choose good or evil.
Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but
the wrath of God abideth on him.http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=40.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
16: Crucifixion is a fiction not fact < www.youtube.com/watch?v=evKadyÂxCg3I >
Those that follow the father of lies through his prophet are required to reject the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel through Khadijah's cousin Waraqa bin Naufal.
Here's why.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2749.msg11247#msg11247
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
17: The last messenger is Muhammad PBUH and Qur'an is his Miracle from Allah.
If the mass murdering, child doing, female prisoner abusing, slave making, thief Muhammad was a true prophet, the ALL of the prophets and witnesses in the 1600 year record of Yahweh to mankind were false.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
18: Christian believes of trinity absolutely a death faith upon God.
Yet it is the very substance of the Gospel.
Father http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=610.0
Son http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=611.0
Holy Spirit http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1225.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
19: The words Bible is not in the Bible, moreover the Bible is taken from Byblos means book Holy Bible means Holy book by god laugh me ......
The only joke -
to you - is on your own prophet.
Sura 80.13 (It is) in Books held (greatly) in honour, 14 Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy,15 (Written) by the hands of scribes- 16 Honourable and Pious and Just.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM....... book what Book physic., math's, what is it's mean?
TheAlsalaam (19 hours ago)
Nothing only Book, very funny the book have not any name just named book.
20: Bible never mentioned about itself that I am words of god or i am words of god any such as like this claimed.
(King James Version) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm
You don't comprehend it because you follow a false prophet and prostrate yourself to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol 5 times a day.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMWhen your Bible not mentioned about itself that what i am so how you dare to claim it is the words of god if you claim so prove that.
21: There is not any point that be solution for humanity, .....
If you think imperialistic conquest, mass murder, rape and sexual enslavement of female prisoners taken as "spoils of war, booty", the theft of the property of others and terrorism, are the "solution for humanity", then Islam is the solution. Muhammad proudly admitting to being a terrorist himself.
Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM..... There is not yet a single point of bible that be fine (good for human in following of it)
Not for an antichrist that follows a 7th century mass murdering, child doing, female prisoner abusing, thief. But for the rest of us....
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. 31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Jhn 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
22: In every time the Bible corrupted upon corrupted means one corrupted other came corrupted in corrupted verse ......
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=97.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2580.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM....... like this it was went on even in this time watch < http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÂ=fVZ7MLQorwA > the common corruption is this always changes by what name" new international version", 1945 version i.e. we can produce 1000s prove I is that you said lie on Ahmad Deetad RA which I answered.
I agree that some modern versions have been a bit compromised.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=81.0
But surely you can see it would be the height of folly to believe that the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel became the EXACT OPPOSITE of what it had been, purely because Muhammad parroted Gnostic doctrine.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2749.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
TheAlsalaam (12 hours ago)
23: From this Hadith of Prophet about fly is clearly appears he was that that he was said. He is messenger of Allah SWT Have a read this great scientific and miraclely Hadith [Sahih Bukhari 4.537 and Sahih Bukhari 7.673] and it Hadith is in money other Hadith books Prophet say "Allah's Apostle said, "If a fly falls in the vessel of any of you, let him dip all of it (into the vessel) and then throw it away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other there is healing (antidote for it) i.e. the treatment for that disease." So let watch what science say about it after 1400yrs. Means up to now nothing yes 'coz it is so high knowledge and they are not that much advanced to know this Hadith. So how prophet knew this much great and amazing knowledge? While he was Illiterate. Visit for a discovered Hadith < www.dailymotion.com/video/x8dmÂt2_scientific-hadith-miracle-fÂorming-t_news >
Miracles of the Quran.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2639.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
TheAlsalaam (12 hours ago)
24: Islam was spread by wisdom and its signs and miracles not by sword < www.youtube.com/watch?v=03McaCÂÂo-UPQ >
Sure. That's why it's most popular in 3rd world countries full of illiterates. In fact Muhammadanism is a historically provable preposterous lie. You haven't refuted this because you can't.
Islam was spread by the power of the sword and has been a scourge on mankind ever since. Cutting the heads off of Muhammad's followers that come to know the love of the one true God Yahweh, through His Messiah Yeshua.
"The Sword is the key of heaven and hell; a drop of blood shed in the cause of Allah, a night spent in arms, is of more avail than two months of fasting and prayer; whoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven, and at the day of judgment his limbs shall be supplied by the wings of angels and cherubim."
Power of the Sword
623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia.
633 - Battle at Oman
633 - Battle at Hadramaut.
633 - Battle of Kazima
633 - Battle of Walaja
633 - Battle of Ulleis
633 - Battle of Anbar
634 - Battle of Basra,
634 - Battle of Damascus
634 - Battle of Ajnadin.
634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph.
634 - Battle of Namaraq
634 - Battle of Saqatia.
635 - Battle of Bridge.
635 - Battle of Buwaib.
635 - Conquest of Damascus.
635 - Battle of Fahl.
636 - Battle of Yermuk.
636 - Battle of Qadsiyia.
636 - Conquest of Madain.
637 - Battle of Jalula.
638 - Battle of Yarmouk.
638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem.
638 - Conquest of Jazirah.
639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt.
641 - Battle of Nihawand
642 - Battle of Ray in Persia
643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan
644 - Conquest of Fars
644 - Conquest of Kharan.
644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph.
647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress
644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman.
648 - Campaign against the Byzantines.
651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines.
654 - Islam spreads into North Africa
656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph.
658 - Battle of Nahrawan.
659 - Conquest of Egypt
661 - Ali is murdered.
662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule.
666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims
677 - Siege of Constantinople
687 - Battle of Kufa
691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq
700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam
700 - Military campaigns in North Africa
702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira
711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar
711 - Conquest of Spain
713 - Conquest of Multan
716 - Invasion of Constantinople
732 - Battle of Tours in France.
740 - Battle of the Nobles.
741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa
744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr.
746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha
748 - Battle of Rayy.
749 - Battle of lsfahan
749 - Battle of Nihawand
750 - Battle of Zab
772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa
777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain
http://www.petewaldo.com/jihad.htm
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
25: Islam is solution for your every problems and blessing to mankind.
Already answered to this ridiculous suggestion. Same absurd claim you made in point 21.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11254#msg11254
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM26: What logic or knowledge is in this foolish verse which you gave us " Matthew 6:7 but when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."
It explains to you that you pray in vain repetitions just as the Sabians, Zoroastians, Mecca Quraish moon, sun, star and jinn devil worshiping pagans, and all the other heathen throughout history. You don't need to prostrate yourself to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca, march around the Kaaba the way the jinn devil worshipers did, and pray in vain repetitions as the heathen do, in order to worship the ONE true omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient God, Yahweh.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=56.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
27: The Bible with satanic verses ......
Interesting term since Muhammad himself admitted to being inspired by Satan.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2274.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM...... and dirty situation of west world Visit if you dare to face with truth about Bible you must reply for it. What you will reply all are truth.
< www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pixlu3ÂÂ2VycI&feature=related > this debate was international debate.
28: Bible say enjoy from rape you can have sex with everybody even with your own sister, daughter.
Incest has been prohibited among God's people since Moses. However in the 7th century Muhammad sanctioned the practice.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1844.0
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O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom God, has assigned to thee; and
daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts..."
With predictably stunningly disastrous results.
"Across the Arab world today an average of 45 percent of married couples are related, according to Dr. Nadia Sakati, a pediatrician and senior consultant for the genetics research center at King Faisal Specialist Hospital in Riyadh.
In some parts of Saudi Arabia, particularly in the south, where Mrs. Hefthi was raised, the rate of marriage among blood relatives ranges from 55 to 70 percent, among the highest rates in the world, according to the Saudi government."
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1844.msg7612#msg7612
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
29: We should accept the truth and we should flee from Bible.
Yahweh gave you the free choice to do just that, as well as detailing the consequences for doing so.
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but
the wrath of God abideth on him.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and
the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM
TheAlsalaam (2 hours ago)
These were this short of our debate which you didn't reply to yet a single of this.
I did repeatedly as this thread confirms.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMthere are many points other which you absolutely not replied for those.
Yet you haven't replied to a single question of mine.
Like why you prostrate yourself to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day.
You didn't answer because you do that for one reason, and one reason alone. Because Muhammad told his followers to engage in that thinly repackaged Quraish pagan worship.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AMReread all replies, claim and answers and rereply ......
Why don't you grow up and put your big boy pants on and come to the forum and point out what I didn't answer?
However you will be expected to answer my unanswered questions that I asked of you.
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM...... for us but ha not to watch or such as like this foolish answer. For each point you should produce your reply with 100% proof, .......
Where is your 100% proof that Muhammad rode on a flying donkey-mule?
There wasn't even a single witness. Yet you believe that nonsense. You believe that nonsense so much, that you pray 5 times a day, as the Sabian moon god worshipers that Muhammad copied it from. Even Muhammad's illiterate 7th century followers had the good sense to leave Islam after he pulled that flying-donkey mule foolishness out of his hat!
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1253.0
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 06:29:58 AM........ in context reverence, and Documentary (strongly be truth).
So we are want your comment no problem after 1 month if you reply OK.
note: you know how he copy/paste in his web. he take the 1 page paste in his 2 and 2 paste 1. shame on you.
If you mean I copy and paste the comments, and then reverse the order, I do it to put them in chronological order. If you weren't such a coward you would put your big boy pants on and come here and ENGAGE in an EXCHANGE so I wouldn't have to bother copy and pasting.
PeteWaldo (50 seconds ago)
"Dear viewers" as The Alsalaam would say. Please copy and paste and remove the 3 spaces from after the 3 dots for the answers to his channel comments.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11242#msg11242
Quote from: Peter on September 09, 2011, 01:16:05 PM
TheAlsalaam (2 hours ago)
Baldy fools have you read all comment and replies and watched all videos in a movement? Which you instantly started replying nonsense. What I said oh denier please read with your open eyes and then dare to replies anyway you past also your all reply in hare if you dare. and hay this address is error I tried too much. What I said in last and last sentence of replies for you warning to produce proof.....
TheAlsalaam (1 hour ago)
Child of evil this is crrect address < http://petewaldo.com/index.pÂhp?topic=2729.15 > copy all and past without space or any such as like Silly manner so go and laugh what he replied too much funny.
No matter how many times I told him to try to copy and paste his own links, and tell me how it worked out for him, he didn't. Would seem he shares his prophet's level of literacy.
PeteWaldo (3 days ago)
Why don't you try to copy and paste, the link you put in your last post, and tell me how it works out? OK?
TheAlsalaam (2 days ago)
You didn't answered even for one point of 28 or.. points but you continue for you foolish willfully i don't know how i make a wedsite which answer for your foolish reply, I don't know internet very well if anybady help me i will be grateful from him.
your answers are out of context more ... would that we was face to face then you see shame.
PeteWaldo (2 days ago)
To those interested in checking the veracity of his claim, please copy and paste the following link, then remove the 3 spaces from after the 3 dots, then push your "enter" key, to view the numbered point by point answers to TheAlsalaam's 28 points.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2729. msg11248#msg11248
TheAlsalaam (1 day ago)
Don't worry i am in making a website soon i will expose you you didn't answered to yet a single of my point you hav't any proof.
for more wait i am not flee
this is my website new in making
you too and all can leave comments it has comments book item
thealsalaam.hpage.ms
A Muslim helped me through chating to how creat a website Allah help him. That is a simple websit.