9-7-2011
TheEverLearning
Happened to notice you left this channel comment on jefeisdguard's channel.
[[[Ever (1 week ago)
Oh wait you've been knocking the Islamic faith so I get to steal a word too. You're an anti-semite!]]]]
Indonesia has one of the largest Islamic populations. Last I checked they are not Semitic. Nor are Muslims from many other countries around the world.
False accusations of racism is the kind of behavior folks fall back on when they are unable to support lies they believe, and face the truth, and engage in honest and fruitful discussion.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE
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[[[[You're exactly right thats why I made the comment. Theres not one drop of semitic blood in the false Jews either yet they use the term. It was a joke in itself. Notice I said "steal the word too". False accusations of making false accusations is a sign you really didn't know what was going on there. I have never played the racism card in my life. This man called Muhammed a pedophile and claimed Allah is a pagan moon God.]]]]
It can't be denied that the Quraish pagans worshiped a deity named "Allah" before Muhammad was ever born. This is even confirmed by the fact that Muhammad's own father's name was Abdullah, or "slave of Allah".
[[[[Then he tried to tell me how I believe. Please my brother unless you are involved in the argument at hand do not give opinions.]]]]]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq8VOZbuu-Q
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[[[All pagan gods were referred to as Allah before the teachings of Muhammed. Its Arabic for God so it makes total sense.]]]]
It's my understanding that "ilah" is the TERM for God/god while "Allah" is the PROPER NAME of the Arabian deity.
sura 3:62 there is no ilah [god] except allah;; sura 52:43 have they and ilah[ god] other than allah; sura 20:97 your ilah [god] is allah; there is no ilah but he; sura 59:22 allah is he, no other ilah may be worshiped but he.
In any event, that's NOT the NAME of the God of the scriptures, which is YHWH (typically pronounced "Yahweh"), as it occurs about 6,500 times in scripture, and in paleo-hebrew inscriptions that date as early as the 9th century BC.
Here's a Wikipedia article on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton
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[[[All pagan gods were referred to as Allah before the teachings of Muhammed.]]]
That's not correct. Different deities went by different names or they wouldn't have been able to worship them separately. As you know the Quraish had 360 idols that they venerated as representing different members of the Arabian star family, priest and priestess of the Arabian jinn religion, among other deities. Muhammad got rid of all the idols except one.
Other deities the Arabians worshiped were even mentioned by name in the Quran - Al-Uzza - Al-Lat and Manat.
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[[[[Thats interesting. I don't look into Islam much myself anymore. Various people work this channel daily so you will see an array of views and comments. I am a Christian myself. But I truly believe Islam is a great religion.]]]]
You have to have a basis in order to have a belief ("that Islam is a great religion"). I am sure you would agree that just because a bunch of people are willing to engage in the same activity doesn't make something a religion. Otherwise you would have to include Scientology in that group.
Please spend an hour Googling the history of pre-Muhammad Mecca. THERE IS NONE.
Even though other ancient Arabian towns are very well attested in the historical record, there is NOT A SHRED of historical or archaeological EVIDENCE that suggests that Mecca ever existed before pagan immigrants from Yemen settled the area in the 4th century AD. Nor it's Kaaba before the early 5th century when the same immigrants built it for Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship.
I consolidated some searches for you on this website so all you have to do is click on them.
http://www.historyofmecca.com
[[[[Its good to see that people study deep into their faith.]]]]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq8VOZbuu-Q
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[[[[Thanks for the links. We all like studying the true faiths. There is a couple Muslims here I will pass the links onto.]]]]]
The only faith Muslims have, is faith in Muhammad and his lies, and the lies of his followers who CREATED a FICTIONAL pre-Muhammad history for their false books. That's what makes Islam a cult, and not a religion.
Abraham was never within a thousand kilometers of where Mecca was eventually built in the 4th century, and he lived about 900 years before the first caravan route was ever established along the Red Sea, yet those poor folks have been deceived by PROVABLE POPPYCOCK into engaging in recycled Quraish pagan moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship rituals.
Even prostrating themselves before the Quraish pagan's black stone idol 5 times a day.
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[[[[I am a Christian myself.]]]]
Then how can you consider Islam a "great religion" when Muhammad's followers are compelled to believe the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel?
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[[[[Honestly brother I really dont care. I don't look into Islam. The people are good that was my only basis.]]]]
So are most atheists. That doesn't make atheism a great religion, even though they are no less indoctrinated.
As far as being good we can easily judge by Muhammad and his boys.
Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
Bukhari:V5B59N448 "They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sa'd to give the verdict. Sad said, 'I give my judgment that their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'"
Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
Tabari VIII:40 "The Messenger of God commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence."
And the TRUE FUNDAMENTAL FOLLOWERS of Muhammad THAT GET ISLAM that are responsible for over 17,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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[[[[I'll admit there are some Islamic radicals out there.]]]]]
You missed the point. Islamic "radicals" are those that make the preposterous suggestion that Islam is a religion of peace. THAT IS A LIE that is contrary to the prophet of Islam, to their books, and to 1400 years of Islamic history.
Those that are engage in terrorism and conquest toward a goal of subjugation of all the prople of the world to Muhammad's followers - AS MUHAMMAD DID - are the true Muslims. Following in the footsteps of one of the most consummate terrorists in the history of mankind.
Sura 8:12 I WILL INSTILL TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
[[[[But honestly man the Mossad brags openly about 911. Its out in the open now.]]]]
Measure the actions of men by the scriptures, not the scriptures by the actions of men, whether they be Mossad or Roman Church clergy.
From Secrets of the Koran, by Don Richardson
"By Mohammed's day, 1,500 years had passed since any Hebrew prophet was described in the Old Testament as using a sword in the service of God. Neither Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Micah, Amos, Malachi nor any other later Hebrew prophet is described as using the sword or prescribing its use."
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The people of that religion have never bothered me about my beliefs and I don't bother them about theirs, unlike the Jews.
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[[[[Key term there "we can judge". Its not for us to judge.]]]]
That verse regards judging persons. Where indeed would be be if we weren't supposed to judge between right and wrong, good and evil?
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
We can easily judge Islam because it is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel.
Besides the fact that when a Muslim confesses that Jesus is the Son of God he has committed the most egregious and only unpardonable sin in Islam's/Satan's religion.
1Jo 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
1 John 2:22 ... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/antichrist.htm
ISLAM IS ANTICHRIST
That's 1.5 billion antichrists in the world, in Islam alone.
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9-9 Ever PM no need to read it here because I quote it in it's entirety in reply later.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2764.msg11291#msg11291
I actually wasted time in looking at your site and was completely shocked by the falsehoods you teach about the Israel-Palestine situation. It was all Palestine before 1948. The U.N. isn't gonna admit the truth. This "Israel" is bought and paid for by Rothschild money and was created simply for religious war support. Visit Israel sometime and you see they hate Christians and hate Jesus even more. Netanyahu even said 9-11 was great for Israel. Israelis want to make the Arabs extinct. Its full of Talmudic Jews. Read their own Encylcopedia Judaeca and you will see their faith was created 500 yrs. after the death of Christ by the Pharisees. The whole Talmud is hatefully biased towrd Gentiles and clearly uplifts child molestation.Our Bible clearly talks about "they that call themselves Jews but are not Jews, but are the synagogues of satan. Watch the film the Zionist conspiracy on youtube. See Ben-Yossef talk about "war now" instead of "peace now". Look into Eustace Mullins or Benjamin Freedman. What about the five Israelis caught on 911 that were "only there to document the event." When American media outlets showed Palestinians dancing on 911 German media outlets showed from a different angle they were being teased with pie and candy. If you'll notice it was only a few dancin while the ones in the background walk by like any other day. Israel wont admit their defeat by the Hezb'allah in Lebanon either. We have many American troops that are gonna refuse going to war with Iran no matter the cost because its just another one of Israel's ploys for world domination. All American media outlets are owned by Jews so we won't get the truth here. Obama is backed by Goldman Sachs who is Jewish. Why are there photos of Obama and Bush Jr. at the Wailing Wall donning yamigas when theyre clearly not Jewish. Obama can't tell the truth about anything. He said his uncle was there at the liberation of Aushwitz. We didn't liberate Auschwitz, Russia did. He said his parent met at a civil rights march in Alabama three years after he was born. We gotta realize there is a great awakening going on right now. We all have been lied too and only those whom God has given discerment can see this.
Have you ever looked into the history of the Kazars and seen how they concocted their self-styled Judaism? Only a small group of Jews understand the true faith.
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[[[[I actually wasted time in looking at your site and was completely shocked by the falsehoods you teach about the Israel-Palestine situation. It was all Palestine before 1948.]]]]
Could you be abusing the term "falsehood" when you mean differing opinions?
Since I've got 4 websites and a chat forum so it's difficult for me to know what you are referring to. Perhaps a link. The last thing I would want is for something to be incorrect.
Here's a link that goes pretty straight to the subject.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2403.0
Earlier you said you were a Christian. Could you share a little of your background in that regard?
Were you raised in the Roman Church?
When were you born again?
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When men admit to an actions we have to accept the truth.
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I was born again. Speaking the truth isn't differing opinions. I gave you several facts to look into aside from that read Jeremiah 3:8.
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[[[I was born again.]]]]
The reason I asked..... "Earlier you said you were a Christian. Could you share a little of your background in that regard?
Were you raised in the Roman Church?"
... is because of your opinions regarding Israel, I presumed you were indoctrinated into the Roman Church, or some other partial-preterist institution like the Presbyterian Church.
You seemed to further confirm this with your soft-peddling Islam the way the Roman Church does.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=600.0
And the Presbyterian Church even meeting with and praising Hezbollah. The natural result of replacement theology.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2610.0
Do you know what preterism is?
Care to share your Christian background?
[[[[Speaking the truth isn't differing opinions.]]]]
You missed the point again.
Muhammadans believe they speak the truth, even though they speak the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. Since there is no historical or archaeological evidence that suggests that Mecca never existed before the 4th century AD everything they believe is truth is provably nothing more than a pile of poppycock.
Indoctrination, whether external or self-induced is a very powerful thing.
In other words what you believe because of what you have been taught, particularly by a bunch of propagandists may not be the truth at all.
[[[[I gave you several facts to look into aside from that read Jeremiah 3:8.]]]]
You mean what you believe to be the facts. The fact is that "Palestine" is Israel.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2403.0
Palestine vs. Israel as the Name of the Holy Land
by Thomas S. McCall, Th.D.
Dr. Thomas McCall Dr. Thomas McCall, the Senior Theologian of our ministry, has written many articles for the Levitt Letter. He holds a Th.M. in Old Testament studies and a Th.D. in Semitic languages and Old Testament. He has served as Zola's co-author, mentor, pastor, and friend for nearly 30 years.
This article appeared originally in the December 1997 Levitt Letter.
Page Contents (skip contents)
* Propaganda Use
* Biblical Use
* History of the Term
* Christian Adoption
* Proper Designation
During the last few centuries, the world, Christians included, has fallen into a bad habit. We have bought into some early Roman propaganda. We have used the name Palestine, which Roman Emperor Hadrian placed on the country of Israel in 135 A.D., for so long that it has become common usage. This would be as incorrect as calling the Russia of today the "Soviet Union" or referring to Berlin as "East Germany." The thoughts below by our ministry's senior theologian, Dr. Thomas S. McCall, completely explore the subject. If you know somebody who's fallen into this habit, please share this article with them.
â€" Zola
Current Propaganda's Use of Palestine
There is a propaganda war going on now with regard to the term "Palestine." At one time it might have been argued that Palestine was an innocuous designation of the Middle Eastern area, that is generally thought of as the Holy Land. During the last few decades, however, the term Palestine has been adopted by Arabs living in Israel in the area west of the Jordan River. It is specifically employed to avoid the use of the name Israel, and must be considered an anti-Israel term. In all Arab maps published in Jordan, Egypt, etc., the area west of the Jordan River is called Palestine, without any reference to Israel. Palestine is the term now used by those who want to deny the legitimate existence of Israel as a genuine nation among the family of nations.
The term now adopted by the political entity within Israel that is gradually obtaining more and more pockets of territory through the "peace process," is "the PA (Palestinian Authority). Although it must deal daily with Israeli officials, the PA hates to use the term Israel in any of its communications.
Palestine, therefore, must now be considered a political propaganda term with massive anti-Israel implications. The world press uses the term to question the legitimacy of modern Israel. Christians also have used the term Palestine for centuries in referring to the Holy Land. In earlier times this might have been excused (although biblically questionable) because of its common usage. In light of the current propaganda war against Israel, however, Christians must now re-evaluate the term Palestine and consider whether it is biblically, theologically or prophetically accurate.
Biblical Use of Palestine
The term Palestine is rarely used in the Old Testament, and when it is, it refers specifically to the southwestern coastal area of Israel occupied by the Philistines. It is a translation of the Hebrew word "Pelesheth." The term is never used to refer to the whole land occupied by Israel. Before Israel occupied the land, it would be generally accurate to say that the southwestern coastal area was called Philistia (the Way of the Philistines, or Palestine), while the central highlands were called Canaan. Both the Canaanites and the Philistines had disappeared as distinct peoples at least by the time of the Babylonian Captivity of Judea (586 B.C.), and they no longer exist.
In the New Testament, the term Palestine is never used. The term Israel is primarily used to refer to the people of Israel, rather than the Land. However, in at least two passages, Israel is used to refer to the Land:
Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead who sought the young child's life. And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel. (Matt. 2:20-21)
But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say to you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man shall have come. (Matt. 10:23)
The first passage is when Joseph, Mary and Jesus returned from Egypt to Israel, and the second has reference to the proclamation of the Gospel throughout the Land of Israel. Jesus, Matthew and the angel speaking to Joseph use the term Israel with reference to the Land, even though the term was not then recognized by the Roman authorities.
It is clear, then, that the Bible never uses the term Palestine to refer to the Holy Land as a whole, and that Bible maps that refer to Palestine in the Old or New Testament are, at best, inaccurate, and, at worst, are a conscious denial of the biblical name of Israel.
History of the Term Palestine
Where did the term Palestine originate from? How did the world and the church get into the habit of calling the land of Israel "Palestine"? One of the guides we use in our tours to Israel is Zvi Rivai, an Israeli Messianic believer, who has done considerable research on this subject. Zvi informs us that before 135 A.D., the Romans used the terms Judea and Galilee to refer to the Land of Israel. When Titus destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D., the Roman government struck a coin with the phrase "Judea Capta," meaning Judea has been captured. The term Palestine was never used in the early Roman designations.
It was not until the Romans crushed the second Jewish revolt against Rome in 135 A.D. under Bar Kochba that Emperor Hadrian applied the term Palestine to the Land of Israel. Hadrian, like many dictators since his time realized the propaganda power of terms and symbols. He replaced the shrines of the Jewish Temple and the Sepulchre of Christ in Jerusalem with temples to pagan deities. He changed the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitalina, and changed the name of Israel and Judea to Palestine. Hadrian's selection of Palestine was purposeful, not accidental. He took the name of the ancient enemies of Israel, the Philistines, Latinized it to Palestine, and applied it to the Land of Israel. He hoped to erase the name Israel from all memory. Thus, the term Palestine as applied to the Land of Israel was invented by the inveterate enemy of the Bible and the Jewish people, Emperor Hadrian.
It is interesting to note that the original Philistines were not Middle Eastern at all. They were European peoples from the Adriatic sea next to Greece. It may have pleased Hadrian to utilize this Hellenistic term for the Jewish land. In any case, the original "Palestinians" had nothing to do, whatsoever, with any Arabs.
Christian Adoption of the Term Palestine
One of the first Christian uses of the term Palestine is found in the works of the Church historian Eusebius, who lived in Caesarea. He wrote around 300 A.D., as the Roman persecution of Christians was ending and the Emperor Constantine began to accept Christianity as legal. Eusebius did not accept Hadrian's designation of Jerusalem as Aelia Capitalina, but he did use Hadrian's term Palestine. Eusebius considered himself to be one of the bishops of Palestine. Thus, the anti-Israel, anti-Christian name of Palestine was assimilated into the Church's vocabulary as the Byzantine Empire was being established.
The Church has, since that time, broadly used the term Palestine in literature and in maps to refer to the Land of Israel. It should be noted, however, that the Crusaders called their land the Kingdom of Jerusalem. When the British received the mandate after World War I, though, they called the land on both sides of the Jordan River, Palestine. This became the accepted geo-political term for several decades, and those who lived in the land were called Palestinians, whether they were Jews, Arabs or Europeans.
Even evangelical Christians who believe in the future of Israel have used the term Palestine. The New Scofield Reference Edition of the Bible has maps in the back entitled "Palestine under the Herods." There never was a Palestine under the Herods. This is a serious misidentification. It would be something like looking at a modern map of Texas and having it titled "Mexico in the Twentieth Century."
The MacArthur Study Bible published just last year contains a map called "Palestine in Christ's Time" There are numerous references in the notes to something called first-century Palestine.
It appears that Bible-believing Christians have either knowingly or unwittingly followed the world, pagans and haters of Israel in calling Israel by the anti-Israel term Palestine. It is found throughout Bible maps, Bible commentaries and textbooks.
Proper Designation of the Land
The use of the term Palestine was biblically inaccurate and wrong throughout the Church age. However, it is more than just wrong, it is devastating in our time, when the term Palestine is the cornerstone of the propaganda war against Israel and the Jewish people. Do we want to use terms invented by those who hate Christ, the Bible and Israel? Do we want to utilize terms used by the enemies of Israel who desire to accomplish nothing less than the destruction of the Jewish people? I think not.
Christians should use the terminology of the Bible wherever possible. Why not go back to the terms used in the New Testament? The Gospel writers used the term Israel to refer to the Land. Why should we use any other term when referring to the Land, especially now that the Jews are back in the Land and have re-established the nation of Israel among the family of nations?
As we draw closer to the Second Coming of Christ, we should understand that Satan's fury against the Church and Israel will grow exponentially. Satan hates the Gospel of the crucified and risen Messiah, and he hates the reality of the restoration of Israel as the nation that will ultimately receive Jesus as the Messiah at His return, and the nation that will be Christ's earthly headquarters. The only term we should use for the Land is Israel, or its subdivisions of Judea, Samaria, and Galilee. We should make every effort to remove the term Palestine from our Bible maps and textbooks, and use only biblical terms with reference to the Holy Land of Israel.
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[[[[When men admit to an actions we have to accept the truth.]]]]
If you could rephrase or expand this perhaps I could understand what you intended to communicate.
FALSE PROPHETS & CULTS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzgOaR8Qrlk
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http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm#cults
2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
The 19th century brought us
Mary Baker Eddy - Christian Science (recovery)
Joseph Smith - LDS Mormon (recovery)
Charles Taze Russell - Jehovah's Witness (recovery)
William Miller - Millerites associated into SDA
Ellen White - SDA Seventh Day Adventists (recovery)
Edward Irving - Irvingites
United and Oneness Pentecostal Church - several individuals 19th & 20th century (recovery)
John Nelson Darby - dispensationalism futurism - Darby from Irving via C.I. Scofield - (Dr. Harry Ironside on futurism)
Dr. John Thomas - Christadelphians (recovery)
Georg W. F. Hegel - Idealism school of eschatology (adopted by Karl Marx) (pdf)
Madame Blavatsky - Theosophical Society - satanist acquaintence of Westcott and Hort
Westcott and Hort - wrote corrupt 19th century minority Greek text that is the basis of the majority of modern bible versions.
Pope Pius IX - 1854 dogma of the "immaculate conception" (former) (Ex) (scandals)
Certainly not limited to the 19th century.
Constantine - 3rd-4th century - Roman church - 44 Roman church doctrines and their dating - For those in the bondage of the Roman church it is essential that husbands and fathers understand the 13th century dogma of auricular confession. (former) (Ex) (scandals)
Ribera - 16th century - futurist doctrine creator and seed for Darby's doctrine
Alcazar - 17th century - preterist doctrine - preterism
Jean de Labadie - 17th century - millennial reign
Manuel de Lacunza - 18th century - middle man between Ribera and Darby
Some suggest that the Roman Church held a preterist view historically, but if that were the case how was it that Catholic Jesuits invented the doctrine of futurism, and then preterism, just a few decades later?
The church is in quite an eschatological mess eigh?
Church Tradition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KtSpB4Id8I
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Those are facts and not my opinions look into them yourself. You are the only propanda preacher I've ran into lately. Look into Mr. Scoffield. The man was in prison 32 years. Nobody wanted his reference Bible. He was a Zionist. Oxford publishing company (owned by Jews) didnt release it until after his death. Read newspapers from other countries from around WW2. You will see things like "Judea Declares War on Germany". Zionist Jews wrote this whole false history of Israel. Some Holocust survivors weren't afraid to come forth with the truth. Palestine was reward to Nathaniel Rothschild for bring in European military support in WW2. Christ even said"my kingdom is not of this world."
I'm not basing my opinions on any book a man wrote. Like you said before we have the right to judge between good and evil, truth and lies. Instead of using your insight to stroke your ego and make condesending statements like "do you know what preterism is" pray for discernment. Instead of sending your links to me look into the facts I have given you. When you see it with your own eyes its facts. Not the the teachings of Thomas S. Mcall. All of these reference Bibles and theologians are gonna have theyre own ideas. Of course they wanna eliminate the name Palestine, as they do the people. See how their map shrinks. In regards to my faith its this simple I'm a born again Christian that can clearly see your a Christian Zionist.
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Israel admitting to theyre atrocities.
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How does this pertain to me? This is stuff we all have stumbled upon. Seeing and beliving isn't a cult.
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You forgot Israelism brought to us by the Rothschilds.
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It sure would help if you quoted what you are responding to. I will try to remember to number points so at least you can preface with a number.
Let me start here. You wrote
[[[[[Those are facts and not my opinions look into them yourself. You are the only propanda preacher I've ran into lately. Look into Mr. Scoffield.]]]]]
1. What does C. I. Scofield have to do with me?
[[[[[The man was in prison 32 years.]]]]
2. Perhaps you could provide a source for this 32 year prison sentence.
3. And what is your point, that men can't repent?
[[[[Nobody wanted his reference Bible.]]]]
Yet somehow the futurist eschatology that he peddled by way of John Nelson Darby, Manuel De Lacunza and 16th century Jesuit Francisco Ribera, became as popular in the 20th century church as 17th century Jesuit Luis Alcazar's preterism.
Both doctrines created in Roman Church anti-reformation efforts.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/end_time_myth.htm
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm
[[[[He was a Zionist.]]]]
4. God is a Zionist. He declared an everlasting covenant with the seed of Abraham through his son Isaac.
The restoration of the Jews to their land began in the early 19th century after 1200 years of Islamization had rendered Israel desolate.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/parable_of_the_fig_tree.htm#jewish_restoration
They raised their flag in 1948 right on Daniel's timetable.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm
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[[[[[Oxford publishing company (owned by Jews) didnt release it until after his death. Read newspapers from other countries from around WW2. You will see things like "Judea Declares War on Germany".]]]]
5. I see. So you're suggesting it was really Jews that started WWII by declaring war on Hitler and Nazi Germany?
[[[[Zionist Jews wrote this whole false history of Israel.]]]]
6. What false history? That contained in scripture? What period are you referring to?
[[[[Some Holocust survivors weren't afraid to come forth with the truth.]]]]
I'm sure you will agree you can dredge up folks that are pretty much willing to say anything about any subject. That doesn't mean what they say is true. Like someone claiming C. I. Scofield was in prison for 35 years.
[[[[Palestine was reward to Nathaniel Rothschild for bring in European military support in WW2.]]]]
And here I thought it was the world community getting together and helping Jews return to and establish a homeland of their own after 2500 years of persecution and being scattered among the nations.
[[[[[Christ even said"my kingdom is not of this world."]]]]
Indeed. I am in His kingdom today.
[[[[I'm not basing my opinions on any book a man wrote. Like you said before we have the right to judge between good and evil, truth and lies. Instead of using your insight to stroke your ego and make condesending statements like "do you know what preterism is" pray for discernment.]]]]
There are millions of Christians that don't have a clue as to what the terms preterism or futurism are or stand for. It was a simple question regarding your background, just as my earlier questions as to whether you were raised in the Roman Church, Presbyterian Church, or some other institution that you hailed to then or today.
Yet look at the judgment you declared on me.
7. Are you a preterist or partial preterist?
[[[[Instead of sending your links to me look into the facts I have given you.]]]]
What I saw was a bunch of anti-semitic bigotry. I'll go back and exegete it after we finish this PM.
[[[[When you see it with your own eyes its facts. Not the the teachings of Thomas S. Mcall. All of these reference Bibles and theologians are gonna have theyre own ideas. Of course they wanna eliminate the name Palestine, as they do the people. See how their map shrinks. In regards to my faith its this simple I'm a born again Christian that can clearly see your a Christian Zionist.]]]]]
Indeed I am.
8. Could you please tell me who you believe THE false prophet mentioned in the book of Revelation is/was?
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[[[[I'm a born again Christian that can clearly see your a Christian Zionist.]]]]]
And you've cast your lot in with these people.
Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
To aid and abet them coming against the people whose Old Testament we share.
Gen 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
This even though Muslims in Israel enjoy more freedom that Muslims do in any Muslim controlled country on earth. You are aiding Muhammad's followers in their effort to further expand Islam's female circumcising, wife beating, slave state.
Please take a moment to view the attached video.
sent with Anti-Ahmadiyah Violence in Cikeusik Indonesia - Very Sad Incidence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKWBr2CLFjY
In this PM http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2764.msg11284#msg11284
you said "Those are facts and not my opinions look into them yourself. You are the only propanda preacher I've ran into lately."
In reference to your PM that is quoted in it's entirety in the following.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2764.msg11277#msg11277
Let's look at the "facts", as you characterized, of what you wrote.
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AM
9-9 Ever PM
I actually wasted time in looking at your site and was completely shocked by the falsehoods you teach about the Israel-Palestine situation. It was all Palestine before 1948.
"The term Palestine is rarely used in the Old Testament, and when it is, it refers specifically to the southwestern coastal area of Israel occupied by the Philistines. It is a translation of the Hebrew word “Pelesheth.†The term is never used to refer to the whole land occupied by Israel.
In the New Testament, the term Palestine is never used. The term Israel is primarily used to refer to the people of Israel, rather than the Land. However, in at least two passages, Israel is used to refer to the Land:
Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead who sought the young child’s life. And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the
land of Israel. (Matt. 2:20-21)
But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say to you, Ye shall not have gone over the
cities of Israel, till the Son of man shall have come. (Matt. 10:23)"
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2403.0
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMThe U.N. isn't gonna admit the truth. This "Israel" is bought and paid for by Rothschild money and was created simply for religious war support.
The Jews were given a second title to the land that Yahweh titled to them in an everlasting covenant, because the international community was guilty for having subjecting them to 2500 years of persecution - and/or not protecting them from the same - and for their having been scattered among the nations all that time.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2582.0
Their resettlement of the land began in the early 19th century.
"A History of the Jews" - Paul Johnson - page 321: "Between 1827 and 1839, largely through British efforts, the population of Jerusalem rose
from 550 to 5,500 and in all Palestine it topped 10,000 - the real beginning of the Jewish return to the Promised Land. In 1838 Palmerston appointed the first western vice-consul in Jerusalem, W.T. Young, and told him 'to afford protection to the Jews generally'."
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/matthew_24_olivet_discourse.htm#abomination_of_desolation
The land prospered from that desolation, by intelligent, enterprising, hard working and productive Jews, hiring local Arabs to help them in that endeavor. They still hire them to this day, which allows them to support their families.
Here is how Mark Twain described the area even 40 years after this restoration began.
In 1867 Mark Twain described it thus: “ ...[a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds-a silent mournful expanse....A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action....We never saw a human being on the whole route....There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.â€
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMVisit Israel sometime and you see they hate Christians ........
Finally getting honest? "They, they, they .... hate Christians". Why not stop dancing around it and say "dirty Jew"? Or call them apes and pigs, as the false prophet of the people you support did?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhbHVEGnYD8
The same false prophet that mass murdered Jews, sexually enslaved their wives and children and stole their property to feed his machine of imperialistic conquest.
http://www.petewaldo.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm
http://www.petewaldo.com/jihad.htm
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'" (video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtt8V25lGmc)) (video (http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1463wmv&ak=null)) Sahih Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176 - Sunna: Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 6985
Most of us were taught better manners than to stereotype and generalize people into one group and then assign attributes to them. This is anti-Semitic bigotry plain and simple.
Seems to me that by lumping faithful Jews in a single group with agnostic and atheist Jews, you have by extension placed yourself into a single group of Gentiles that includes agnostics and atheists. Which are, incidentally, the only other 2 groups that I have had the opportunity to chat with besides Muslims, that are anti-Zionist like you. This is perhaps only my second or third opportunity in my years on YouTube to have the opportunity to chat with a Christian anti-Zionist.
Back to your accusation against them, my parents traveled to Israel several times and were warmly received by Israeli Jews, and wound up with long term relationships through corresponding with Israeli Jews.
When Brigette Gabriel fled the Muslim terrorists in her country, Lebanon, she was taken in by the Israeli Jews and treated medically and taken care of otherwise, with no questions asked. Just as so-called "Palestinians" are treated by them today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6sYvMsCCrQ
As Walid Shoebat put it "One night I went to bed a Jordanian and the next morning I woke up a Palistinian." Any suggestion of a Palestinian people is an invention of the pop anti-Israel liberal popular media. Where was their government before 1994? What was their currency?
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AM........ and hate Jesus even more.
You believe you have powers of discernment yet you lump all Jews into one group. I understand the following verse may well speak to your accusation against faithful Jews, whose lives revolve around their faith based community, and our God Yahweh.
1Cr 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMNetanyahu even said 9-11 was great for Israel.
I would agree that it was constructive in that it woke up the whole of the non-Islamic world, except you, as to just who our enemy has been for the last 1400 years.
The dar al salaam conquest of the dar el harb.
We may not be at war against Islam, but Islam has been at war against the non-Islamic world for 1400 years.
http://www.petewaldo.com/jihad.htm
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMIsraelis want to make the Arabs extinct.
You may not realize it but that's a lie. Nobody with any knowledge of Islam - which you admitted you haven't even bothered to investigate even though you support Muhammad's followers - could disagree with this quote.
"If the Arabs (Muslims) put down their weapons today there would be no more violence. If the Israelis put down their weapons today there would be no more Israel."
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMIts full of Talmudic Jews. Read their own Encylcopedia Judaeca and you will see their faith was created 500 yrs. after the death of Christ by the Pharisees. The whole Talmud is hatefully biased towrd Gentiles and clearly uplifts child molestation.
Jews do not consider the Talmud inspired.
Would you want to have your beliefs tarred with the book of Mormon that claims we all came here in space ships and every man will eventually be the ruler of his own planet?
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMOur Bible clearly talks about "they that call themselves Jews but are not Jews, but are the synagogues of satan.
Ah, a touchstone of replacement theology that is the natural result of Jesuit Alcazar's preterism. The kind of interpretations that have been used as an excuse by those like Hitler and skinheads.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=43.0
Even leaders of the Presbyterian church that met with Hezbollah.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2610.0
Let's first look at what a Jew is.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.
From where I stand I think the verse you reference could refer to those that stand with Muhammad's followers, and against the Israelis.
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMWatch the film the Zionist conspiracy on youtube. See Ben-Yossef talk about "war now" instead of "peace now". Look into Eustace Mullins or Benjamin Freedman. What about the five Israelis caught on 911 that were "only there to document the event." When American media outlets showed Palestinians dancing on 911 German media outlets showed from a different angle they were being teased with pie and candy.
Sure. Just like these little shavers are only dressing up for Halloween.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bra53uzgPDk
How about a Jew eating rabbit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeii225G-HM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV9M3mmqOII
Does that even begin to show you how your mind has been bent by "Palestinian" propaganda?
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMIf you'll notice it was only a few dancin while the ones in the background walk by like any other day. Israel wont admit their defeat by the Hezb'allah in Lebanon either. We have many American troops that are gonna refuse going to war with Iran no matter the cost because its just another one of Israel's ploys for world domination.
I see. So you believe 2/10 of 1% of the world's population (Jews) desire to dominate the world?
Can't you even begin to see what a fantasy you have been fed?
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMAll American media outlets are owned by Jews so we won't get the truth here. Obama is backed by Goldman Sachs who is Jewish. Why are there photos of Obama and Bush Jr. at the Wailing Wall donning yamigas when theyre clearly not Jewish.
George Bush understands, as I, that faithful Jews are our brethren, though I can understand why some of them that may remain sovereignly blinded may not consider me their brethren.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1582.0
We share the same God of the scriptures whose name is YHWH.
A better question to ask is why Obama dons Muslim garb and bows to Saudi kings.
And why he is helping the Muslim brotherhood take over in Libyan civil war under the guise of preventing genocide, after helping them do the same in Egypt, and looking to help them take over Syria as well.
Now that the "rebels" are in control of Libya they are engaging in genocide of blacks, just as they have exterminated about 2 million in the Sudan.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2732.0
This while he remains silent over a thousand Christians being martyred on the Ivory Coast of Africa by the new Muslim government that Obama backed.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=christian+ivory+coast&aq=f
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMObama can't tell the truth about anything.
That's not fair. He told the truth in this video clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AMHe said his uncle was there at the liberation of Aushwitz. We didn't liberate Auschwitz, Russia did. He said his parent met at a civil rights march in Alabama three years after he was born. We gotta realize there is a great awakening going on right now. We all have been lied too and only those whom God has given discerment can see this.
Yet you encouraged me to employ discernment rather than answer my question as to whether you were a preterist or not.
Quote from: Peter on September 10, 2011, 01:21:30 AM
Have you ever looked into the history of the Kazars and seen how they concocted their self-styled Judaism? Only a small group of Jews understand the true faith.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.
You see, my friend, I don't believe I have a franchise on truth, but what you believe to be "facts" are nothing more than expressions of your opinion, born of preterist doctrine and Islamic propaganda.
Indeed perhaps the reason you claimed "I don't look into Islam much myself anymore." is because you began to see the truth, and had to run and hide from it in order to continue to rail against the Israelis and support Muhammad's followers. That, I might add, prostrate themselves to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=56.0
It's been a long time since some Jews bowed to a golden calf. They learned their lesson.
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[[[[Let's just end this conversation. I don't speak with Zionist. Ya'll a centuries worth of false facts to prove your points not to mention centuries worth of bloodshed. When someone else brings up truths about Zionism its the same old anti-semitism angle.]]]]
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No matter to you that you characterized me as "You are the only propanda preacher I've ran into lately" while incorrectly connecting me with Scofield. Or when you accused "using your insight to stroke your ego and make condesending statements" when I simply asked if you knew what preterism is. Or that this chat started when you incorrectly accused a brother of ours of being an anti-semite because he pointed out to you that Muhammad married a 6 year old and had 53 year old Muhammad had sex with her when she was 9.
Here's a free book that is fun to read that can introduce you to the traditional continuous-historic view of New Testament prophecy.
I said I would get around to the facts you presented, and there were so many elements in that PM that I thought it would be easier to put our chat in the forum where I could do a better job of it. I masked your identity. Please feel free to log in and discuss it if you think I treated any points unfairly.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2764.msg11291#msg11291
Rather that focus on Zionism it would be better for you focus on the source of Jesuit Luis Alcazar's preterist doctrine that inspires replacement theology.
Wouldn't hurt to consider the company you keep either. Muslims, atheists, agnostics and Nazis are anti-zionists too. I praise the Lord I'm not stuck having to side with Muhammad's violent cult and against the people with which we share the scriptures.
sent with Islam DENIES the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCE_sti-uZc
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Whoops I forgot the link to the book.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_false_prophet.htm
sent with THE False Prophet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lEro81ygXQ
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Muhammad's true followers and their leaders like Ahmadinejad share the same goal that Hitler had.
sent with HITLER AND THE MUFTI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxPDTGvGQqM
Ever PMs on 9-11. All replies in this post, are quoted in their entirety in the next post, so you can skip this one.
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You mean the goal Theodor Herzl had.
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Once again the whole ante-semite thingt was a joke. Seems you have quite the rep all over youtube for not ever giving an answer to the question given to you. As I said before this is not one persons channel. Just as you copy and paste the same things over and over for "read-only participants" mostly Muslim. We work this channel and varios others to spread truth. Another point missed, I didn't link you to Scoffield. I was referring to why I dont trust reference Bibles. Nazi's are anti-Zionists, huh? Wow that's quite a stretch. So much info is around about the Zionist Jews that ran Hitler's concentration camps. See how the name Nazi was formed. One hint, it was NA at first. Rather than worry about my focus look into the Theodor Herzl-like belief structure you have fallen into. Talmudic Jews are the true Nazi's my good friend.. And please if you never look into anything else I give you, look into the story of the U.S.S. Liberty and ask yourself why the Israeli's aboard that plane recieved awards at home.
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I went to your forum. It was even more proof to us of your ego stroking. I lump all Jews into that category by saying Talmudic Jews, huh. Never considered them dirty apes. Thanks for the attempt at putting words in my mouth though. What you call Islamic propaganda that I look into comes mostly from Christians and ex-Zionists.I am thinking you have never enlisted and went over into the Middle East. You will see protesters with signs against Zionism but uplifting Judaism. When I askedabout Obama, you fired back about why he was donning a Muslim garb my point exactly. He doesnt tell the truth. If Mr. Bush sympathized with the Jews so much why did he's family do business with the Bin-Ladens?
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For one that talks on replacement theology so much. You work replacement arguements redundanly. Those things about Ben-Yossef i mentioned you went right back to the preterist thing. Someone in the psychiatrac fied could easily have a heyday with you might good friend. I guess you will use the preterist question after this. Why would Netanyahu say, "We have just about squeezed out Hungry and Poland financially. Once we have dried up the goyim they can blow of the map as far as I'm concerned." Or is that anti-semitism on my part or Islamic propanda from Maa-riv?
[[[[You mean the goal Theodor Herzl had.]]]]]
I see. So Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at all. It was a Jew that wanted to exterminate the Jews!
Sent with Hitler and the Mufti
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxPDTGvGQqM
[[[[Once again the whole ante-semite thingt was a joke. Seems you have quite the rep all over youtube for not ever giving an answer to the question given to you.]]]]
I'm so flattered! I didn't know I had a YouTube reputation!
As for your accusation, please be more specific.
The last conversation I had before you was with TheAlsalaam who gave me 22 points, each of which I answered one by one, even splitting some into additional parts.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11248#msg11248
You can see from the copy and pasted chat that he is lying about my not answering, but then all of Muhammad's followers are necessarily liars.
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
Yet he kept insisting I didn't answer him even though most of his points I had previously answered even multiple times. If you will review the thread I think you will find I couldn't have done a more thorough job.
If you review our chat I believe you will find I did the same there. If not please tell me which point I didn't address and I would be happy to. Surely you aren't expecting me to answer to the way over-the-top preposterous nonsense that you can't even support yourself.
[[[[As I said before this is not one persons channel. Just as you copy and paste the same things over and over for "read-only participants" mostly Muslim. We work this channel and varios others to spread truth. Another point missed, I didn't link you to Scoffield. I was referring to why I dont trust reference Bibles. Nazi's are anti-Zionists, huh? Wow that's quite a stretch.]]]]
Nazi's not only want the Jews out of Zion, they want Jews out of the whole world. They want to EXTERMINATE Jews. Now why don't you take a moment and contemplate who you are defending.
[[[[So much info is around about the Zionist Jews that ran Hitler's concentration camps.]]]]
It's true the Nazis pressed lots of Jews into their service in the camps. Can you possibly be so naive as to not understand that some people are so afraid of dying that they would do anything to keep from being tortured or executed?
[[[[See how the name Nazi was formed. One hint, it was NA at first. Rather than worry about my focus look into the Theodor Herzl-like belief structure you have fallen into. Talmudic Jews are the true Nazi's my good friend..]]]]
With your evermore surprising defense of Nazis I am having trouble understanding. Are you saying that you are on the side of the Nazis in WWII?
[[[[And please if you never look into anything else I give you, look into the story of the U.S.S. Liberty and ask yourself why the Israeli's aboard that plane recieved awards at home.]]]]
The answer of course is because of the spectacular job Israeli pilots did of vanquishing Israel's enemy during the 6 day war. That enemy being Islam, which has been at war against the non-Islamic world for 1400 years.
Perhaps you could explain what you believe Israel's motivation would have been, behind that friendly fire incident, having been by intent.
[[[[I went to your forum. It was even more proof to us of your ego stroking. I lump all Jews into that category by saying Talmudic Jews, huh. Never considered them dirty apes.]]]]
You missed the point again. The point I was making that that you judge ALL Jews as though they were the same, regardless of the condition of an individual's heart.
In my opinion, by extension, you have therefore lumped yourself into a group of Gentiles, that includes all Gentiles, regardless of the condition of their hearts.
[[[Thanks for the attempt at putting words in my mouth though. What you call Islamic propaganda that I look into comes mostly from Christians and ex-Zionists. I am thinking you have never enlisted and went over into the Middle East.]]]]
Vietnam was the flavor of the day when I was eligible for military service, and no, I didn't enlist.
[[[[You will see protesters with signs against Zionism but uplifting Judaism.]]]]
I hadn't yet seen quite the extent of self-indoctrination as I have with you. Seems you base your world opinion, on the actions of individuals that you wish represented the whole. You see a protest sign that confirms what you are predisposed to believe, and voila! That must mean it represents all members of a particular group that you are stereotyping and generalizing.
[[[[When I askedabout Obama, you fired back about why he was donning a Muslim garb my point exactly. He doesnt tell the truth. If Mr. Bush sympathized with the Jews so much why did he's family do business with the Bin-Ladens?]]]]]
Seems your focus is on the flesh, and this world.
ALL kingdoms of the world have been Satan's legal possession ever since Adam's fall. The U.S. did pretty well, right up until our once-great republic divorced itself from God in 1947.
I am engaged preaching Christ crucified to 1.5 billion people that are compelled the believe the EXACT OPPOSITE by the false prophet Muhammad and his adopted and adapted Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship rituals.
sent with THE NAME ALLAH - MOON GOD? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slLBam06iyg
[[[[For one that talks on replacement theology so much. You work replacement arguements redundanly. Those things about Ben-Yossef i mentioned you went right back to the preterist thing.]]]]
Preterism is the source of replacement theology. It is the source of such as Roman church murder of Jews, and an excuse for those like Hitler and skinheads. Perterism and replacement theology go hand in hand.
I deal in broad questions. When I asked you who you believe THE false prophet of the book of Revelation was/is, you didn't reply. Did you miss the question?
[[[[Someone in the psychiatrac fied could easily have a heyday with you might good friend. I guess you will use the preterist question after this. Why would Netanyahu say, "We have just about squeezed out Hungry and Poland financially. Once we have dried up the goyim they can blow of the map as far as I'm concerned." Or is that anti-semitism on my part or Islamic propanda from Maa-riv?]]]]
Why don't you being by including sources for the claims like this Netanyahu you make? I didn't have any luck googling this quote.
JIHAD! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9FYYo5EINU
I'll look into Ben-Yossef today.
[[[[See Ben-Yossef talk about "war now" instead of "peace now". Look into Eustace Mullins or Benjamin Freedman. What about the five Israelis caught on 911 that were "only there to document the event." When American media outlets showed Palestinians dancing on 911 German media outlets showed from a different angle they were being teased with pie and candy.]]]]]
I was so distracted by your suggestion that the Palestinians were dancing on 9-11 because of being "teased with pie and candy" that I didn't revisit the prior sentence.
Though considering Iran's centrifuges and the rest of what is going on over there, it wouldn't be a surprise that some in Israel would want to go to war. The only reason they aren't under attack now, besides the thousands of random katyusha rockets raining down on them, is because their neighbors are too cowardly.
It's too bad the U.S. doesn't understand the weapons God gave us to fight this 1400 year long war of Islam vs the non-islamic war, as I believe leafleting with the truth could mitigate matters fairly quickly.
MOHAMMED'S NIGHT JOURNEY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twwVjrhagL0
Please answer the following.
Do you understand that Muhammad declared the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and thus 1.5 billion of the false prophet Muhammad's followers are required to DENY the crucifixion and blood that would save them as an article of their faith in Muhammad?
Please DO NOT OBFUSCATE in answer.
Islam DENIES the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCE_sti-uZc
Do you understand that according to Islam's own books, Muhammad was a mass murdering, female prisoner raping, thief?
http://www.petewaldo.com/jihad.htm
sent with Jihad! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9FYYo5EINU
Please let me correct that.
Do you understand that according to Islam's own books, the false prophet Muhammad IS REVEALED AS a mass murdering, female prisoner raping, thief?
http://www.petewaldo.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm
sent with Jihad! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9FYYo5EINU
It's too bad the U.S. doesn't understand the weapons God gave us to fight this 1400 year long war of Islam vs the non-islamic war, as I believe leafleting with the truth could mitigate matters fairly quickly.
But meant to write
It's too bad the U.S. doesn't understand the weapons God gave us to fight this 1400 year long war of Islam vs the non-islamic WORLD, as I believe leafleting with the truth could mitigate matters fairly quickly.
Sent with "Muslims believe in Jesus and all the prophets." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kCxOGGM5w
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C'mon man nine messages? I don't have the time nor do do i care about this arguement.
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Then please just indulge me by answering the content of these two
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Please answer the following.
Do you understand that Muhammad declared the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and thus 1.5 billion of the false prophet Muhammad's followers are required to DENY the crucifixion and blood that would save them as an article of their faith in Muhammad?
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Do you understand that according to Islam's own books, Muhammad was a mass murdering, female prisoner raping, thief?
http://www.petewaldo.com/jihad.htm
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Why would that matter so much to you if I do or don't understand?
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[[[[Why would that matter so much to you if I do or don't understand?]]]]
A lot of Christians are ignorant to those matters of fact.
If you had read the prior PM in which I asked it you would have seen that I asked you not to obfuscate because this is exactly the kind of answer I anticipated.
You raised a ton of points and facts that are apparently only known to you, to which I answered many, yet you claimed that I avoid answering. When I answer to yet more of your points one by one, rather than read them you reply
"C'mon man nine messages? I don't have the time nor do do i care about this arguement."
Surely you can see your own hypocrisy and false witness you bore against me.
The reason I wanted you to understand that Muslims must reject the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and follow a mass murdering, prisoner raping thief, is to make sure you knew that it was their side you have chosen, against the people who share the Old Testament of our scriptures with us.
There is no shortage of Muslims engaging in taqiyyah, that is Islamic subterfuge, that pose as Christians online. While they can go on and on, about this little detail or that little detail, or about what this or that person said, they run away when fundamentals are discussed. They cannot admit to these irrefutable matters of fact about Muhammad and his cult.
Why couldn't you have simply answered yes or no, to my Muslims having to reject the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and matter of fact that they follow a mass murdering, prisoner raping thief as Muhammad is revealed through their own books?
Followed by a series of one line PMs with attached anti-zioinist videos, rather than answer to my replies. I will only copy and paste responsive posts from here on out.
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I sent you a few videos. And before you say it, no I do not solely based my opinions on videos I see on youtube. No one I know poses as Muslims on youtube. Though I must say many Israelis have been caught working youtube to sway American minds. My answer is clear. I don't look into Islam. What is strange is all the accusations you make toward Islam, they may be true they may be false, I for sure see these things out of Talmudic Jews and some of those thing out of Tuetonic Zionism that has infiltrated every religion.
More obfuscation.
Perhaps if I rephrase and number the points you can stop obfuscating.
1. DO YOU AGREE that Muslims are compelled to believe the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel?
Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus ... but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.
2. DO YOU AGREE that Muhammad is revealed through Islam's own books as a mass murdering, prisoner raping, thief?
Bukhari:V5B59N448 "They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sa'd to give the verdict. Sad said, 'I give my judgment that their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'"
Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."
Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.
3. DO YOU AGREE that Muhammad and all of his followers ARE ANTICHRIST?
Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
1 John 2:22 .... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:...
If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.
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Before I could give an answer to that I would have to know the time period Muhammed ordered the beheading of the Jews. Then I could go from there. Here is the former Israeli Prime Minister with some very special words.
[[[[Before I could give an answer to that I would have to know the time period Muhammed ordered the beheading of the Jews. Then I could go from there. Here is the former Israeli Prime Minister with some very special words.]]]]]
Muhammad attacked and slaughtered the Banu Quraiza in 627. The Jews never struck a blow.
But what does WHEN Muhammad BEHEADED those innocent Jewish farm boys that had just reached puberty, and their dads and grandpas, then sexually enslaving their sisters, moms and grandmas, followed by stealing all their property, have to do with THE FACT THAT Muhammad DID ORDER THAT all the boys that had reached puberty along with all the men, be brought before him and beheaded?
Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
Tabari VIII:38 "The Prophet selected for himself from among the Jewish women of the Qurayza, Rayhanah bt. Amr. She became his concubine. When he predeceased her, she was still in his possession. When the Messenger of Allah took her as a captive, she showed herself averse to Islam and insisted on Judaism."
http://www.petewaldo.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm
There were 3 numbered questions, but you can't do it, can you? Try it again.
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1. DO YOU AGREE that Muslims are compelled to believe the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel?
Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus ... but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.
2. DO YOU AGREE that Muhammad is revealed through Islam's own books as a mass murdering, prisoner raping, thief?
Bukhari:V5B59N448 "They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sa'd to give the verdict. Sad said, 'I give my judgment that their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'"
Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."
Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.
3. DO YOU AGREE that Muhammad and all of his followers ARE ANTICHRIST?
Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
1 John 2:22 .... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:...
If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.
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And once again I DON'T CARE. I'm only concerned with my spiritual life. Do you ever think maybe Surah 9:30 may mean that they profess these things with their mouth but do not act on it? Do you have a "shred of historical or archeological evidence" it really happened? You have said yourself Muhammed was a liar. I cannot stress to you how much I do not care. Instead of worring about something that may or may not have happened hundreds of years ago, look at whats going on now. Lets say Muhammed did order the beheading and it did happen. Its not so much different today that Israel orders the genocide of Palestinians. Lets say they did sleep with the captive women. Zionist soldiers have raped numerous Palestinian women and I can send you videos of them torturing children and it will stay in your mind forever if you have children of your own. Lets say Muhammed and his followers are antichrist. Any religion that denounces Christ as the returning Messiah would be of anti-christ spirit. I'm not justifying Islam I'm just saying the country you feel theolgically bound to support is no different than the religion you spend your life speaking against if its really that way. There are usurpers everwhere you look. But we can look around and see the end draws near and I'd rather spend my days in the reading of the Word of God and knowing the true enemy than worrying about if Islam is right on wrong. You have fallen into the trap of Tuetonic/Rothschild Zionism my friend. You're education and your media has you feeling theoligically bound to support terror and turning a blind eye when it hits home. The Bible says the antichrist will be loved more than God by many. We can't have prayer in school now and the Christian flag has been replaced by the Israeli flag in many schools. There signs out that say " Be American, Stand by Israel' yet no reference to God. We worry about Irans nuclear development and turn a blind eye to the fact that Israel has had almost 200 for quite some time. I can go on and on why I don't care to look into to Islam because I see Zionism as the biggest problem. Look into the videos I sent you and feel the sting of truth. And see if you can honestly tell me Zionism is not a worldwide problem at all.
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[[[[And once again I DON'T CARE.]]]]]
Yet just one PM ago you said "Before I could give an answer to that I would have to know the time period Muhammed ordered the beheading of the Jews. Then I could go from there."
As if the "time period" would determine whether beheading those innocent Jewish farm boys, and their dads and grandpas, was mass murder or not.
Then I gave you the date of the mass murder of the Banu Quraiza and now you still can't admit that it was mass murder. But, of course, I'm not surprised.
[[[I'm only concerned with my spiritual life.]]]]
I am desperate for 1.5 billion people that have been deceived by the false prophet, into rejecting the blood that would save them, because of their faith in Muhammad. That's 1.5 billion antichrists, according to the scriptures because they must reject that Jesus is the Son of God as an article of their faith in Muhammad.
Maybe someday you'll get called to be concerned with someone beyond yourself too!
[[[[Do you ever think maybe Surah 9:30 may mean that they profess these things with their mouth but do not act on it?]]]]]
I see. Follow a religion but ignore it. Makes perfect sense doesn't it?
Besides which, when a Muslim confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, he has committed the MOST EGREGIOUS AND ONLY UNPARDONABLE SIN, in Muhammad's 7th century cult. Yet in scripture we find that condemned again....
1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
But hey, why let the truth get in the way, when you are so busy hating Israelis that your spirit moves you to run into the arms of the 1400 year long enemies of the God of the Bible, that aren't even allowed by Muhammad to be friends with you.
They are only allowed to fake friendship with kuffar in order to achieve their goal.
Which is, of course, the 1400 year long - and running - goal of conquest of the world and subjugation of all people on earth to Muhammad's followers. It is their duty.
Sahih Al-Bukhari - "Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its Pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah is made superior and He becomes the only God who may be worshiped. By Jihad Islam is propagated and made superior. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position. Their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, and Muslim rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape this duty dies as a hypocrite." page 580 of Maktba Dar-us-Salam's Sahih Al-Bukhari
That's 1/4 of mankind in the world today, that follow a cult whose doctrine requires the conquest and subjugation of the world to Muhammad's followers.
They nearly succeeded in conquest of nearly the whole known world during the Islamic first jihad, until stopped in France and Austria.
Yet you preposterously suggest that is the goal of "the" "Jews", which comprise .2% (that's right two tenths of one percent) of the world's population, only about 1/3 of which live in Israel, and who's religion, of course, has no such goal or doctrine of global conquest as the Muhammadan's does.
I'll answer the rest of this absolutely ridiculous PM in the forum so I don't wind up loosing a pile of work, in this desperately pitiful YouTube PM venue. Or having you complain about my having sent too thorough of a reply again, to which you still haven't replied, let alone read. But then the reason I engage in these chats is for folks who are seeking truth to benefit from our exchange.
I'll chip away at it over the next day or two at this link
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2764.msg11330#msg11330
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PM
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And once again I DON'T CARE. I'm only concerned with my spiritual life. Do you ever think maybe Surah 9:30 may mean that they profess these things with their mouth but do not act on it? Do you have a "shred of historical or archeological evidence" it really happened?
Of course. The verses I gave you were from Islam's historical record. The mass murder of those Jews is one of the proudest moments to fundamental Muslims that GET Islam and do everything they can to emulate Muhammad's murder, rape and thievery.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMYou have said yourself Muhammed was a liar.
It isn't about what I say. It's about what the God you claim you follow says.
1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
That's 1.5 billion liars that reject the blood of the Lamb of God, and deny that He is the Son of God, because of their faith in Muhammad. The people YOU SUPPORT ARE ALL LIARS - TO THE MAN - according to the God of the scriptures.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMI cannot stress to you how much I do not care.
You already made that more than obvious by choosing to run with atheists, agnostics, Nazis, skinheads, and other anti-Zionists.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMInstead of worring about something that may or may not have happened hundreds of years ago, look at whats going on now.
EXACTLY. Over 17,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks AROUND THE WORLD just since 9-11 which has absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH ZIONISM.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Over a thousand Christians martyred on the Ivory Coast recently by the new Muslim government that Obama supports.
Genocide of blacks in Libya by Muhammadan antichrists already.
That's on top of the over two million killed by Muhammadans - so far - in the Sudan alone. NOTHING TO DO WITH ZIONISM.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=51.0
Let alone the Sunni and Shiite mutual targeting for murder of each others innocent men women and children, slaughter of Islamic Ahmadiyya, and in order to preserve their "honor" father's and mother's murder of their own sons and daughters that have come to know the love of Jesus Christ. NOTHING TO DO WITH ZIONISM.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=54.0
But hey, those murderous thugs are your peeps, eigh? No shortage of little heads full of mush in training now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4d9HPw4a_k
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMLets say Muhammed did order the beheading and it did happen.
It is a widely recognized historical event. Islamic fundamentalists declare it one of the most blessed events in Islamic history. But then I wouldn't doubt you deny the holocaust too, let alone the Islamic Mufti of Jerusalem's hand in it, with two Islamic panzer divisions in Hitler's army. If you don't deny it I wouldn't be surprised if you look on it fondly based on prior PMs.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMIts not so much different today that Israel orders the genocide of Palestinians.
2 Timothy 3:1
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers,
false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMLets say they did sleep with the captive women.
It isn't about what WE say. I already showed you verses from Bukhari that is considered to be the most inspired hadith.
Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMZionist soldiers have raped numerous Palestinian women .........
But of course the only evidence for that is folks that the God of the bible labels as lying antichrists.
You can't even see that you are blinded to the FACT that Muhammad is a
mass murdering rapist that is followed by 1.5 billion people. He is the guy they are supposed to emulate.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PM........ and I can send you videos of them torturing children ......
And I can send you a Muhammadan propaganda video where they have a girl posing as a scantily clad Jew that mocks the cross. So what? All you are proving is that you are gullible and your mind has been surrendered to propaganda.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PM....... and it will stay in your mind forever if you have children of your own. Lets say Muhammed and his followers are antichrist.
It isn't about what WE say. That would be nothing more than the unsupported hollow claims that you have tried to pedddle already. It's about what the scriptures say - which is the exact opposite of what the Quran says.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMAny religion that denounces Christ as the returning Messiah would be of anti-christ spirit.
Any religion that denies that Jesus is the Son of God - which is the most important fundamental of Islam. Muhammadanism is a cult that fills it's followers with complete resolve to DISbelieve the whole subject of the Gospel.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMI'm not justifying Islam I'm just saying the country you feel theolgically bound to support .......
I support all democracies that protect and champion the right to freedom and self-determination of their citizens. Israel happens to be the ONLY country in the Middle East that does, and shares our western values. You want to turn it into another female circumcising, wife beating, Islamic slave state like the rest of the Middle East.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PM......... is no different than the religion you spend your life speaking against if its really that way.
Which is the natural conclusion of replacement theology.
I believe that some faithful Jews remain sovereignly blinded so they can't sin against the Gospel.
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
That was penned well after the cross.
How could they be enemies of the Gospel but still be beloved?
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1582.0
Yahweh's people don't prostrate themselves to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day like the folks that you support do.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMThere are usurpers everwhere you look.
I don't have to look too far.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMBut we can look around and see the end draws near and I'd rather spend my days in the reading of the Word of God and knowing the true enemy ......
You mean the one that causes 1/4 of mankind to engage in thinly repackaged pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship rituals, and has caused the same group to martyr Yahweh's people over the last 1400 years, with another two million killed in the Sudan alone by their hand.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PM........ than worrying about if Islam is right on wrong.
You obviously don't have any children.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMYou have fallen into the trap of Tuetonic/Rothschild Zionism my friend.
You have joined the enemy through all the unsubstantiated hogwash you have indoctrinated yourself with and tried to peddle.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMYou're education and your media has you feeling theoligically bound to support terror ......
Well done! Particularly for one that admits he wishes to remain ignorant to Islam and the true source of murder, mayhem and misery AROUND THE WORLD today. Muhammad being one of the most consummate terrorists in world history and freely admitting to it.
Sura 8:12
I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PM....... and turning a blind eye when it hits home. The Bible says the antichrist will be loved more than God by many.
There are only 4 verses in scripture that contain the term antichrist and none of them say that.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=624.0
But then you haven't included a single verse of scripture. Only the propaganda you are a victim of.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMWe can't have prayer in school now and the Christian flag has been replaced by the Israeli flag in many schools.
Sure. The Everson Decision of 1947, or the big lie of so-called "separation of church and state", followed by the 1948 McCollum V. Board of education decision, must have required removing Christan flags and putting up Israeli flags to replace them. Yea. Like dat!
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMThere signs out that say " Be American, Stand by Israel' yet no reference to God.
There are signs that say "no left turn" and "stop" too.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMWe worry about Irans nuclear development ........
"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury." Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Your kind of guy! Put him on the list of atheists, agnostics, nazis, and skinheads that you join company with.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PM........ and turn a blind eye to the fact that Israel has had almost 200 for quite some time.
And being the only nation in the Middle East that shares our western values, where Muslims live in more freedom than they do in any Islam controlled country on earth, it's no surprise they have shown such amazing restraint from using them against all the aggressive neighbors that have come against them. Their already proven ability to exercise restraint and good judgment makes them the perfect candidates to continue to keep them, as a continuing deterrent to the enemy of all non-islamic mankind.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMI can go on and on ......
You already have, while ignoring scripture, and instead going on about individuals.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PM........ why I don't care to look into to Islam because I see Zionism as the biggest problem.
Isn't that funny! The reason you see Zionism as the biggest problem is specifically because you haven't cared to look into Islam! Self-admitted blind bias! Well done! Islamic antichrists agree with you, and for the same reason!
Yet most of the places in which we find murder, mayhem and misery in the world today we find the hand of Islam. It has nothing to do with Zionism, but the 1400 year long goal of Islam of conquest and subjugation of all the people in the world to Muhammad's followers.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if every country on earth could be a female circumcising, wife beating, slave state?!
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMLook into the videos I sent you and feel the sting of truth.
Look into the truth, and you will find that the very people you are in bed with, are the 1400 year enemies of all non-Islamic mankind.
Quote from: Peter on September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PMAnd see if you can honestly tell me Zionism is not a worldwide problem at all.
It would be the epitome of ignorance of me to believe that Zionism is a worldwide problem, with 2 million killed in the Sudan alone by Muhammadans, and over 17,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks ALL AROUND THE WORLD, just since 9-11.
The kind of abject ignorance that you not only admit to, but declare you insist on remaining in.
Yawwwn. I dont care if you answer a single question of mine. And once again nice attempt at putting words in my my by saying I hate Israelis. Continue your quest at stopping the Islamic New World Order and their attempt at world conquest. I can't believe I'm only the first ant-zionist Christian you've encountered. I can easily tell you how that 2% does it but it would mean I hate all Jews if I explained. Just look into ZOG. You are without a doubt the most brainwashed individual I have ever encountered. As far as being concerned only about myself. We are all to be of the priesthood in our individual spiritual walk. Someone not reading or replying to your messages is a sure sign theyre not concerned. I am only sending videos back because I am seriously concerned about you.
Quote from: Peter on September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AM
Yawwwn. I dont care if you answer a single question of mine.
Yet though I answered to a plethora of your empty claims and questions, the record of our chat indicates that all you could do is obfuscate and ignore when it came to answering mine. This after earlier bearing false witness against me of "Seems you have quite the rep all over youtube for not ever giving an answer to the question given to you." when it is you that has ignored and obfuscated throughout our chat. This forum is filled with chats in which I answer in great detail.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=32.0
Most recently
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11248#msg11248
Quote from: Peter on September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AMAnd once again nice attempt at putting words in my my by saying I hate Israelis.
You don't need to say, it to exhibit it, particularly by your support for so-called "Palestinians" that do.
Quote from: Peter on September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AMContinue your quest at stopping the Islamic New World Order and their attempt at world conquest.
While you continue to insist on maintaining your ignorance to it so you can continue to support the enemies of Yahweh.
Quote from: Peter on September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AMI can't believe I'm only the first ant-zionist Christian you've encountered.
I've encountered others, and their efforts to support their view were just as feeble as yours. However none of them admitted to carefully maintaining the blind bias that you have, by freely admitting you prevent yourself from investigating the enemies of Yahweh that you support.
Quote from: Peter on September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AMI can easily tell you how that 2% .......
Already inflated the percentage of global Jewish population by a factor of 10!
Quote from: Peter on September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AM....... does it but it would mean I hate all Jews if I explained.
As well as through your support of those that would turn Israel's democracy into another imperialistic, totalitarian, female circumcising, wife beating, Islamist slave state.
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'" Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176
Quote from: Peter on September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AMJust look into ZOG.
Well done! One doesn't have to look far to see that it confirms how you have characterized yourself throughout our chat, but have tried to deny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Occupation_Government
"Zionist Occupation Government or Zionist Occupied Government (abbreviated as ZOG) is an antisemitic conspiracy theory which holds that Jews secretly control a given country, while the formal government is a puppet regime.[1]
The expression is used by antisemitic groups such as white supremacists in the United States[2] and Europe,[3] ultra-nationalists such as Pamyat in Russia, and various far-right groups, including some in Poland.[4]"Quote from: Peter on September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AMYou are without a doubt the most brainwashed individual I have ever encountered.
I see. Yet you brainwash yourself with ZOG while I preach Christ crucified to 1.5 billion antichrists.
Quote from: Peter on September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AMAs far as being concerned only about myself. We are all to be of the priesthood in our individual spiritual walk. Someone not reading or replying to your messages is a sure sign theyre not concerned.
At a minimum it's a sure sign that they are as incapable of replying as you.
Quote from: Peter on September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AMI am only sending videos back because I am seriously concerned about you.
I see. A ZOG guy that insists on maintaining not only a blind bias, regarding the 1/4 of mankind that are enemies of Yahweh - the people of THE false prophet Muhammad - but supports them through that same blindness against Yahweh's people. Is concerned about a guy that works full time preaching Christ crucified to antichrists. You do have at least that in common. They too, have to carefully maintain their ignorance to the scripture, history, archaeology and geography of Muhammadanism, in order to continue to prostrate themselves before the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day.
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I just found the following comment that you left on jefeisdguard's channel.
[[[[I'll admit Christ is the returning Messiah. Never said anything against Him. Muslims speak highly of Christ as did Muhammed. Man teaches the discord on views of Christ. If you will look thousands of Europeans are converting to Islam. There is a great awakening to the truth worldwide western media will never speak of.]]]]
No wonder you failed to admit that Jesus is the Son of God.
Why don't you just admit that you are a Muslim that is engaging in taqiyyah by making a false claim that you are Christian?
Why don't you confess that Jesus is the Son of God now?
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[[[[Thatt wasnt me talking. Again several work this channel.]]]]
I don't think it is "again" since I don't recall the first time you telling me that.
If all the people that "work this channel" are not Muslims, then why don't you confess that Jesus is the Son of God to reassure me?
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[[[[No problem there I've always felt that way. And yes I have told you that. This channel and others are here for a reason. I think you might wanna look into the U.S.S. liberty thing a little deeper. Was wondering why the Israelis recieved awards for bombing our troops with napalm.]]]]
Do not copy and paste, but type these words yourself, in reply to me "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God"
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[[[[No problem there I've always felt that way. And yes I have told you that. This channel and others are here for a reason. I think you might wanna look into the U.S.S. liberty thing a little deeper. Was wondering why the Israelis recieved awards for bombing our troops with napalm.]]]]
Do not copy and paste, but type these words yourself, in reply to me "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God"
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I believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God. You really think I am a Muslim don't you? My point exactly, you've been brainwashed my friend. Its not replacement theology exposing the atrocities of Zionism. You're media leads you to believe someone doing such would be a Muslim trying to sway you're mind as it leads you to believe Iran persecutes the Jews.