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Quote from: Mujaheed on December 12, 2013, 01:11:30 PM
My honest answer to you question has been self explanatory from my first response. Spamming them is an indication of you dogmatic style of rejecting the truth the truth is the  Bible says that it is the first and most heinous sin not say that God is one with no partners no equal and no offspring "Hear ye 'O Children of Israel The Lord your God Is one.

Do you believe the following to be sinful or good?

1.  Blaspheming the name of God
2.  Murder
3.  Adultery
4.  Fornication
5.  Theft/Stealing
6.  Lying
7.  Covetousness

Quote from: ExMilitary on December 12, 2013, 02:21:48 PM

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 12, 2013, 01:11:30 PM
My honest answer to you question has been self explanatory from my first response. Spamming them is an indication of you dogmatic style of rejecting the truth the truth is the  Bible says that it is the first and most heinous sin not say that God is one with no partners no equal and no offspring "Hear ye 'O Children of Israel The Lord your God Is one.

Do you believe the following to be sinful or good?

1.  Blaspheming the name of God   
2.  Murder
3.  Adultery
4.  Fornication
5.  Theft/Stealing
6.  Lying
7.  Covetousness

1. As in saying a Prophet is God? like the Romans, Greeks, Hindus and Certain sects of Christians?
2. like Samson killing himself and all the People in the Temple? or like the Inquisition and Crusades (mass Murder on an epic scale)
3 Like the many verses in the Bible? Enoch?
4. Like todays self professed followers of Jesus, in predominantly Christian countries are doing from high school and throughout their lives?
5. Like Europeans stealing the land of the Red Indians, Dutch stealing South Africa and Indonesia, Like the Spanish stealing from South Americans?
6. like reading a verse and interpreting it according to Popular Roman and Greek philosophy of family of Gods?
7. Like European Christians wanting what the Arabs have?

Yes the Non-muslims are guilty of heinous crimes against humanity and it is ongoing  with impunity,

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 13, 2013, 07:57:20 AM

Quote from: ExMilitary on December 12, 2013, 02:21:48 PM
Do you believe the following to be sinful or good?

1.  Blaspheming the name of God   
2.  Murder
3.  Adultery
4.  Fornication
5.  Theft/Stealing
6.  Lying
7.  Covetousness

1. As in saying a Prophet is God? like the Romans, Greeks, Hindus and Certain sects of Christians?
2. like Samson killing himself and all the People in the Temple? or like the Inquisition and Crusades (mass Murder on an epic scale)
3 Like the many verses in the Bible? Enoch?
4. Like todays self professed followers of Jesus, in predominantly Christian countries are doing from high school and throughout their lives?
5. Like Europeans stealing the land of the Red Indians, Dutch stealing South Africa and Indonesia, Like the Spanish stealing from South Americans?
6. like reading a verse and interpreting it according to Popular Roman and Greek philosophy of family of Gods?
7. Like European Christians wanting what the Arabs have?

Yes the Non-muslims are guilty of heinous crimes against humanity and it is ongoing  with impunity,

Good, now since we can at least agree that the seven things I listed are indeed sinful before God, I must ask you Mujaheed, how you have performed in these 7 areas before God:

1.  Have you ever taken his name in vain, used it as a cuss word (like G**d***, or OMG, etc) or used it in a way that brought no glory to his name?
2.  Have you ever murdered anyone (even in your heart)?  And, don't forget that the great prophet Jesus said that if you have hated your brother/neighbor/fellow man, then you have committed murder in your heart.
3.  Have you ever committed adultery (even in your heart)?  And, don't forget that the great prophet Jesus said that if you even look at another person with lust you have committed adultery in your heart.
4.  Have you ever fornicated with a man or a woman?
5.  Have you ever stolen anything, no matter how small?  Taken a pen from a business that didn't belong to you?  Told someone you worked more hours than you actually did? Etc...
6.  Have you ever lied... ever?
7.  Have you ever desired something to the point that you've committed any of the above 6 things to obtain them?

Muj, I am trying to be very tender with you, here.  Please address each one of these individually, with a yes/no answer if you wouldn't mind, and maybe an estimate of how many times you've committed each.  If you're like the rest of the planet (including me), it'll feel very awkward to admit how poorly we've performed our duties of righteousness before God.

Quote from: ExMilitary on December 13, 2013, 11:11:42 AM

QuoteGood, now since we can at least agree that the seven things I listed are indeed sinful before God, I must ask you Mujaheed, how you have performed in these 7 areas before God:

1.  Have you ever taken his name in vain, used it as a cuss word (like G**d***, or OMG, etc) or used it in a way that brought no glory to his name?

NO, I have attended religious schools for the first twenty years of my life, I never tolerated the use of cussing nor engaged in it myself.

Quote2.  Have you ever murdered anyone (even in your heart)?  And, don't forget that the great prophet Jesus said that if you have hated your brother/neighbor/fellow man, then you have committed murder in your heart.

NO
We lived in an oppressive state and we were liberated and throughout the struggle for liberation we were reminded to keep our hearts in check against hatred, I have also had a fairly easy life (all Praise due to ALLAH that I never had occasion to bear ill feelings against another.

Quote3.  Have you ever committed adultery (even in your heart)?  And, don't forget that the great prophet Jesus said that if you even look at another person with lust you have committed adultery in your heart.

Yes I have

Quote4.  Have you ever fornicated with a man or a woman?

Yes I have

Quote5.  Have you ever stolen anything, no matter how small?  Taken a pen from a business that didn't belong to you?  Told someone you worked more hours than you actually did? Etc…

yes I have

Quote6.  Have you ever lied... ever?

Yes i have

Quote7.  Have you ever desired something to the point that you've committed any of the above 6 things to obtain them?

yes I have

Muj, I am trying to be very tender with you, here.  Please address each one of these individually, with a yes/no answer if you wouldn't mind, and maybe an estimate of how many times you've committed each.  If you're like the rest of the planet (including me), it'll feel very awkward to admit how poorly we've performed our duties of righteousness before God.

I am not an Angel nor am I confessing to you. GOD loves who repent, I have lived my life in the service of God and erring on occasion, it has taken forty years to realize my calling and I am earnestly working towards leading a Life as ALLAH has prescribed in the Quran and shown by the Prophet Muhammad.

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 17, 2013, 12:18:22 PM

Quote from: ExMilitary3.  Have you ever committed adultery (even in your heart)?  And, don't forget that the great prophet Jesus said that if you even look at another person with lust you have committed adultery in your heart.

Yes I have

Quote4.  Have you ever fornicated with a man or a woman?

Yes I have

Quote5.  Have you ever stolen anything, no matter how small?  Taken a pen from a business that didn't belong to you?  Told someone you worked more hours than you actually did? Etc…

yes I have

Quote6.  Have you ever lied... ever?

Yes i have

Quote7.  Have you ever desired something to the point that you've committed any of the above 6 things to obtain them?

yes I have

Muj, by your own admission (I'm only summing up what you've admitted to), like the rest of us, in God's eyes, you are a lying, theiving, adulterer at heart...

You have to face God on judgment day.  Will you be innocent or guilty?

In the court of Allah. Only Allah is the judge. Allah most merciful will look at my heart and decide on its condition. I said that I repented I continue repent. So your statement that I am a bad person is irrelavent as the matter is between me a d Allah. You have no right to judge despite what I said. You frail attempts has no bearing on the truth.

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 05:28:11 AM
In the court of Allah. Only Allah is the judge. Allah most merciful will look at my heart and decide on its condition. I said that I repented I continue repent. So your statement that I am a bad person is irrelavent as the matter is between me a d Allah. You have no right to judge despite what I said. You frail attempts has no bearing on the truth.

He wasn't judging you Muj, but pointing out how the scriptures indicate we are all judged, as being sinful wretches in God's terms as it was written.

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Try as hard as we might, we always fall short.

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

There was only ever one person on earth that was perfect and sinless. That is what made Him the perfect sacrifice, as the Passover Lamb of God.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3080.0

1Pe 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

And if we die while still carrying the burden of our own sins ourselves, we are separated from God forever. This is why we need a redeemer, a Savior, Muj.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm

ExMil was asking how you will face our judge, on judgment day, which could be today Muj. Do you believe you will be judged as being without sin, past or present? As a lamb that is without spot or blemish?

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Do you think our judge will judge you to have been, and to be, completely free of sin?

To answer ExM. As I face Allah everyday with humilit and fear that I may be short of worthy. I face Allah full of hope and can't wait to meet Allah to experience his Mercy. So I am between hope and fear anything else would be senseless arrogance  With the knowledge that Allah knows everything and Jesus  will be in the same stat of facing Allah on Judgement day. Jesus will be fearful due to those that have accused him of saying he is God.

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 05:59:18 AM
To answer ExM. As I face Allah everyday with humilit and fear that I may be short of worthy. I face Allah full of hope and can't wait to meet Allah to experience his Mercy. So I am between hope and fear anything else would be senseless arrogance  With the knowledge that Allah knows everything and Jesus  will be in the same stat of facing Allah on Judgement day. Jesus will be fearful due to those that have accused him of saying he is God.

According to your own empty words, that Satan put in your mouth, because you follow Muhammad alone.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Satan, through his messenger, caused you get it exactly backwards Muj, because you follow Muhammad alone:

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

I take it from your response that you in contact with Satan? Or you know how he operates. Satan cant do anything physically. He mere points you in the direction of your desires. You and most of the arrogant self professed experts on religion fail to grasp simple truths. If you on earth you a mortal not a God. You cannot say God has offspring. Sons what about daughters? Will the woman not accuse God of being sexist for having Son to acrifice while a woman actually give birth to the son of God? So Mary is the Mother of God? What blasphemy!!!  What utter stupidity to believe unknown authors or rather Nicean theories.

You appear to be an intelligent human being. So think think think clearly about your duty towards yourself. Think for yourself don't accept the writings of scribes and zealots that had political agendas not pious motivations.

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 05:59:18 AM
To answer ExM. As I face Allah everyday with humilit and fear that I may be short of worthy. I face Allah full of hope and can't wait to meet Allah to experience his Mercy. So I am between hope and fear anything else would be senseless arrogance  With the knowledge that Allah knows everything and Jesus  will be in the same stat of facing Allah on Judgement day. Jesus will be fearful due to those that have accused him of saying he is God.

Muj, if I had the technology to put a chip in your brain and record every thought, every action, everything that ever passed through your brain, and then could remove that chip, and put it in a projector for all the world to see... if you were like me, you'd be terrified if the world found out what actually went through your private mind.

God will not pardon the guilty.  If God is a good judge, Muj, he must judge all unrighteousness.

Imagine yourself in a court room, Muj.  Imagine telling the judge, "Judge, I know I broke the law in the past, and committed adultery and all that, but I've changed now.  I don't do that stuff any more!"

The judge would say, "And rightly so!  You should have never broken the law in the first place!  I cannot allow crimes to go unpunished.  I am imposing a $250,000 fine on you... if you cannot pay it, then you will go to prison until the last penny is paid."

Muj, if a mere man knows to never let crimes go unpunished, what do you think a righteous God will do?

If God is merciful without punishing ALL evil, then he is not a good judge.  Time doesn't forgive sin, Muj.  You know that.

Someone, Muj, MUST come into the courtroom of the judge and pay our fine or we WILL end up in prison.  God says vengeance belongs to him, Muj.  There is not a sin that will go unpunished... not even the most private evil thought will escape the eye of God.

Muj, from what you tell me: If God excuses sin, then he is unjust.  If God punishes all sin, and all are guilty before God, and no payment is made, then there is no mercy upon us.  There is NO hope without that payment, Muj.

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AM
I take it from your response that you in contact with Satan? Or you know how he operates.

I indeed know how he operates as the New Testament explains it to us.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Just like when Satan met Muhammad in the cave of Hira. However not even as an angel but more like the devil himself, since Muhammad felt like the demon tried to squeeze the life out of him 3 times. No angel is revealed himself that way in the Scriptures.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3909.0

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AMSatan cant do anything physically.

If you had ever read the book of Job you would know that isn't true. Let alone that he made Muhammad feel, quite physically, as though he was getting the life squeezed out of him three times.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3909.0

One thing Satan cannot do is read our thoughts. That's likely why he didn't know whether to believe Muhammad when he told Satan he couldn't read, and thus asked him repeatedly (three times).

What your post demonstrates more than anything is that your knowledge of Satan, comes from Satan himself, through a bunch of 7th century SW Arabian desert dwelling illiterates. Satan, aka Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah", even tells you that he is the greatest of schemers!

Satan even deludes Muhammad's followers through simple child psychology, making them believe that just because they parrot "I seek shelter from Satan" that they will magically receive it, even as all the while Muhammad's followers are blaspheming and denying the God of the scriptures of the Jews and Christians.

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AMHe mere points you in the direction of your desires. You and most of the arrogant self professed experts on religion fail to grasp simple truths. If you on earth you a mortal not a God. You cannot say God has offspring. Sons what about daughters? Will the woman not accuse God of being sexist for having Son to acrifice while a woman actually give birth to the son of God? So Mary is the Mother of God? What blasphemy!!!  What utter stupidity to believe unknown authors or rather Nicean theories.

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1140.msg15956#msg15956

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AMYou appear to be an intelligent human being. So think think think clearly about your duty towards yourself. Think for yourself don't accept the writings of scribes and zealots that had political agendas not pious motivations.

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1790.msg15939#msg15939

http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_trinity.htm#which_trinity_for_eternity

Which Trinity For All Eternity? (URL)

God gave us all the free will to choose between right and wrong, good and evil, and reality and fantasy, so how we spend our eternal life depends on the choices we make in this life. Those choices in turn, are arrived at through a love of truth, or absence thereof. Which "trinity" does your eternal life depend on? That of the one true God of love (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_love_of_god.htm) of the Jews and Christians as He revealed Himself manifest in person (http://www.islamandthetruth.com/god_manifest_flesh.htm) and through His Spirit (http://www.islamandthetruth.com/spirit_of_god.htm), to ALL of His prophets and witnesses of His 1600 year record of revelation to mankind, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years, with our sinless Messiah as intercessor? A record that is well supported by history, archaeology (http://www.bing.com/search?q=archaeology+proves+bible+history&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=archaeology+proves+bible+history&sc=1-32&sp=-1&sk=) and fulfilled prophecy (http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2447.0), that is consistent with matter of fact physical geography (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/evidence_for_islam.htm), and can even be confirmed mathematically (http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm).

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Or does your eternal life depend on an imitation trinity (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_trinity.htm) with Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah" as a terrorist (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm#allah_terror), that inspired a cruel (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm#muhammads_cruelty), violent (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm), imperialistic (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm#islamic_first_jihad), mass-murdering (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm#banu_qurayza), child violating (http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=aisha+nine+years+old&translator=1&search=1&book=&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all), counter-"messenger" (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/index.htm) of an anti-religion (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm), in Muhammad's "Allah's" spirit of antichrist (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm), with Muhammad as the self-proclaimed intercessor (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm)?
A scripture-contrary (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/index.htm#spirit_of_antichrist), counter-religion (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm) with a pre-Muhammad history-devoid (http://www.historyofmecca.com/), archaeology-absent (http://www.historyofmecca.com/archaeology_mecca.htm), reality-rejecting (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamic_slavery_dhimmitude.htm), geographically-impossible (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/evidence_for_islam.htm) so-called "tradition", that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-Muhammad history, yet was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD without reference to any actual historical record that preceded the 6th century AD. A counter-YHWH (http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=idols&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1) anti-religion with a carnal tradition of prostrating toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol and Kaaba in Mecca five times a day - located 1200 kilometers away (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/evidence_for_islam.htm) from the Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs - while praying in the "vain repetitions as the heathen do (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=6&v=7&t=KJV#s=935007)", in the names of the Arabian pagan deity "Allah (http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_name_allah.htm)" and his "messenger" Muhammad. Even compelled to perform adopted, adapted and thinly veneered pagan Arabian moon, sun, star (http://www.petewaldo.com/hajj_umrah.htm) and jinn-devil worship (http://www.petewaldo.com/hajj___umrah.htm#al_safa_al_marwah) rituals.

Mujaheed

Every time you open your mouth to defend Islam, a contradiction comes out.

Answer this question.

1.  Did Muhammad murder anybody?
2.  Did Muhammad rape anybody?
3.  Did Muhammad lie to anybody?

If you answered "Yes" to any of these questions, of which you should have answered yes to ALL of them, then why would you put your faith in him (Muhammad) for being a murdering, rapist liar?  Who, in their right mind would follow that example of hatred?  Muslims, that's who.  You follow a murdering rapist liar.  It says that is who Muhammad is in your very own writings about Islam.  We show you over and over again.

This is exactly why you REFUSE to answer these questions we give you.  We have EVIDENCE from your very own Quran and other books that Muhammad IS a false prophet and his own words, alongside yours, shows that.

According to your own Quran, Jesus was perfect.  He didn't do any of that stuff Muhammad did so I ask you one more question.

How come when you pray your five times a day you say "There is no other god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger" instead of "There is no other god but Allah and Jesus is his messenger"

What you are saying is that Jesus isn't good enough.  The messenger has to be a thieving, mass murdering, lying, womanizer to be able to hold that most important position. 

After all, Moses, Abraham, Issac and many others you say were messengers of Allah.  Again, why just Muhammad?  Muhammad was NOTHING like any other of the real prophets.  Besides, Muhammad admitted getting scammed by the Devil.  If he got scammed once by the Devil, how many other times did he get scammed?  So, why don't you pray this five times a day instead.  "There is no other god but Allah and the prophets are his messengers"?

Tell me.  If you knew that I was a habitual liar and that's all I ever do, and just this once, I told the absolute truth, would you believe me?  I know I wouldn't.  I would have to have some form of irrefutable evidence that would back up my claim, otherwise, nobody would believe me. 

Quote from: ExMilitary on December 18, 2013, 09:18:32 AM

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 05:59:18 AM
To answer ExM. As I face Allah everyday with humilit and fear that I may be short of worthy. I face Allah full of hope and can't wait to meet Allah to experience his Mercy. So I am between hope and fear anything else would be senseless arrogance  With the knowledge that Allah knows everything and Jesus  will be in the same stat of facing Allah on Judgement day. Jesus will be fearful due to those that have accused him of saying he is God.

Muj, if I had the technology to put a chip in your brain and record every thought, every action, everything that ever passed through your brain, and then could remove that chip, and put it in a projector for all the world to see... if you were like me, you'd be terrified if the world found out what actually went through your private mind.

God will not pardon the guilty.  If God is a good judge, Muj, he must judge all unrighteousness.

Imagine yourself in a court room, Muj.  Imagine telling the judge, "Judge, I know I broke the law in the past, and committed adultery and all that, but I've changed now.  I don't do that stuff any more!"

The judge would say, "And rightly so!  You should have never broken the law in the first place!  I cannot allow crimes to go unpunished.  I am imposing a $250,000 fine on you... if you cannot pay it, then you will go to prison until the last penny is paid."

Muj, if a mere man knows to never let crimes go unpunished, what do you think a righteous God will do?

If God is merciful without punishing ALL evil, then he is not a good judge.  Time doesn't forgive sin, Muj.  You know that.

Someone, Muj, MUST come into the courtroom of the judge and pay our fine or we WILL end up in prison.  God says vengeance belongs to him, Muj.  There is not a sin that will go unpunished... not even the most private evil thought will escape the eye of God.

Muj, from what you tell me: If God excuses sin, then he is unjust.  If God punishes all sin, and all are guilty before God, and no payment is made, then there is no mercy upon us.  There is NO hope without that payment, Muj.

Mujaheed, you never answered this post.  You accused me of judging you.  I didn't judge you, I merely pointed out what YOU judged about yourself.  What I said was that BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, you are a liar, a thief, and an adulterer at heart.  You must face God on judgment day.  Considering the post I am quoting, here, how will God deal with your sin if there is no one except you to suffer the penalties of your sin?  You yourself said you were guilty, Mujaheed.  You have broken the law of God.

And you can't plead, anything about, "well, I hope I'm worthy."  Reread the above post.  Mujaheed, you DO believe God, don't you?  Is He just or not?  He is very clear about what happens to people that have broken his laws.  Mujaheed, he has already given you a conscience and told you what you need to know.  No one will get away with ANY sin.  Don't be deceived, Mujaheed, God says that ALL liars will have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone.

Do you believe God or not?  Will you go to heaven or hell for your sins?

Quote from: ExMilitary on February 01, 2014, 09:24:18 AMMujaheed, he has already given you a conscience and told you what you need to know.  No one will get away with ANY sin.  Don't be deceived, Mujaheed, God says that ALL liars will have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone.

Do you believe God or not?  Will you go to heaven or hell for your sins?

And Muj, it isn't about what exmil or I say: 1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

So Muj, does the sun set in a pool of murky water or not?

Surah18.85 One (such) way he followed, 86 Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
http://www.petewaldo.com/fables_fantasies.htm

Do you really believe Muhammad rode on a flying donkey-mule?
http://www.petewaldo.com/mohammeds_night_journey.htm

Quote from: PeteWaldo on February 01, 2014, 10:23:23 AM

Quote from: ExMilitary on February 01, 2014, 09:24:18 AMMujaheed, he has already given you a conscience and told you what you need to know.  No one will get away with ANY sin.  Don't be deceived, Mujaheed, God says that ALL liars will have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone.

Do you believe God or not?  Will you go to heaven or hell for your sins?

And Muj, it isn't about what exmil or I say: 1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

So Muj, does the sun set in a pool of murky water or not?

Surah18.85 One (such) way he followed, 86 Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
http://www.petewaldo.com/fables_fantasies.htm

Do you really believe Muhammad rode on a flying donkey-mule?
http://www.petewaldo.com/mohammeds_night_journey.htm

I have watched many a sunset into the Ocean (i am blessed with living in a country that has very long coastlines)
The sun sets in the Ocean, Theres a beautiful way of writing, it is called poetry, it is rhythmical and metophorical with much wisdom in the way that the reciter gives description in an emotive way. Only men of understanding can appreciate it.

How can you hope to understand the Words of God when you reject the very first tenet of belief, Say Verily ALLAH is one.

DO you really believe that you proved that Muhammad did by asking me how he could have prayed in Mosque not built yet. How did Muhammad know that would be the site of Masjidul Aqsa?  How did The Prophet Muhammad describe Jerusalem and the area in detail to the people of Makkah? I am assuming you read all the Hadith pertaining to the Mi'raaj?

You actually alerted me to the fact that God creates everything and if you can believe in Angels and other created beings why can God not create a flying animal. Was the donkey not given honor by Jesus. What did Jesus ride on? So if you saying donkey Mule like you trying to somehow degrade the status then you have issue with the Lord Your God that has created you you the same manner (Sperm, your Mothers Womb and birth) we have that in common with a donkey. yet we walk on the Earth as we know something, as if we descended directly from heaven.

You and dxmi;itary have very little understanding of the teachings of Jesus, ALL your knowledge is wasted on you, for you don't even have the common courtesy to speak in the manner taught to you.

Your hearts are not filled with love and kindness, it spews vileness hatred and bad words.

You are betraying the very Christian religion by your actions and words, All your posts that are filled with hatred of other beings, the Arabs, Pakistanis, Afghanis, indians, Bangladeshis, Morrocans, Libyans, Iranians, Palestinians, Indians that are citizens of the UK, and the Chechens and People from Africa, Nigerians and Egyptians and Sudanese and Somalis to name but a few of the nations you slander.

Jesus did not curse and mock and jeer and accuse the way you do.

What are you going to say to God when he asks you why you tried to tell one of his creation the things you did? Calling me a liar Murdere and fornicator. How do you know who God forgives and whom he leaves to go astray? 

Is your God vengeful? Spiteful, Racist, biased? filled with anger and wrath towards the majority of Mankind?????  Christians have always been a small percentage of the population. You a minority that is dwindling in number. Most people who call themselves Christian actually hardly ever read the bible. The ignorant levels amongst the majority of Christians regarding God and religion is much higher than any Muslims knowledge of Christianity. At some or other time in their life they completely forsake the religion and forget about God altogether. This is not an accusation, its the reality.

Count the number churches in the world, count the number of sects and divisions and sub-sects. Then count the number of attendants on a Sunday or as seven day adventist Saturday. I found the number to be declining to the extant that Jumuah Friday Prayers now have more attendance than Sunday Mass in a Majority Christian country like England.

Falsehood does not last, it cannot, the light of the Quran will slowly extinguish it. as at did when the Muslims were living for the purpose that they were created. Please don't try to ignore 1000 Years of Islamic history, go and educate yourself. Most of the history books written by westerners are devoid of the truth of the Islamic conquests through sheer unwillingness to seek the truth.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 03, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
What are you going to say to God when he asks you why you tried to tell one of his creation the things you did? Calling me a liar Murdere and fornicator. How do you know who God forgives and whom he leaves to go astray?

Are you even reading my posts?  I am placing in bold font for you the fact that I am saying that you admitted to being these things.  I accuse you of nothing, your own conscience bears witness against you as does your mouth (typing).  Please address the question.  Is God just, or not?  Will he punish sin, or not?

Let me give you a good example, Muj.  I have a cousin that was convicted of a crime.  She served about 1 year in jail.  They let her out 18 months early.  It has been about 5 years since that time, and she has turned her life around.  She is married, with children, seeking God, and doing very well.

About a year ago, the courts realized that letting her go early was a mistake.  She went back to trial to fight it, because she had served some time and had been reformed and had since significantly become a positive citizen... BUT she hadn't served her time.  Muj, will God punish sin, or not?  Will the fine for breaking the law have to be paid or not?

Stop avoiding these questions and just answer them directly.  I've made it very simple.

1.  Is God just?

2.  Will God punish sin?

Quote from: ExMilitary on February 03, 2014, 12:04:57 PM

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 03, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
What are you going to say to God when he asks you why you tried to tell one of his creation the things you did? Calling me a liar Murdere and fornicator. How do you know who God forgives and whom he leaves to go astray?

Are you even reading my posts?  I am placing in bold font for you the fact that I am saying that you admitted to being these things.  I accuse you of nothing, your own conscience bears witness against you as does your mouth (typing).  Please address the question.  Is God just, or not?  Will he punish sin, or not?

Let me give you a good example, Muj.  I have a cousin that was convicted of a crime.  She served about 1 year in jail.  They let her out 18 months early.  It has been about 5 years since that time, and she has turned her life around.  She is married, with children, seeking God, and doing very well.

About a year ago, the courts realized that letting her go early was a mistake.  She went back to trial to fight it, because she had served some time and had been reformed and had since significantly become a positive citizen... BUT she hadn't served her time.  Muj, will God punish sin, or not?  Will the fine for breaking the law have to be paid or not?

Stop avoiding these questions and just answer them directly.  I've made it very simple.

1.  Is God just?

2.  Will God punish sin?

1. Dear ExM, I keep forgetting who I am addressing, my apologies. You obviously asking a rhetorical question and the answer is that God Almighty is MOST JUST (no-one is more Just and no-one can compare or imagine what that justness entails, so stop with conjecturing.

I told you that I am not confessing my sins to you, What I said was for the hypothetical scenario you wanted to create. It was your own mind and heart that like all christians who base their faith on conjecture and not on the will of God!!!

2. The sin of any man is between him and his Lord. its not a matter for public debate unless it constitutes a crime against another person.

My dear Christian, Your cousins faith and good intentions and deeds she carries out for the sake of GOD has nothing to do with the law of your land.  She has to endure your legal system as a test of her faith. One does question the will of God, we abide by the will of God. A perfection of this acceptance is in the words All praise be to ALLAH under all circumstances

What it means is that I have to accept and be happy with the will of God under all circumstances.
I have to start by educating myself as to what is required of me as prescribed by the Messengers of God (prophets) not according to the intellect of other human beings nor the writings of fallible scribes or the conclusions, exclusions and inclusions of modifications of the will of God written by unknown authors.

please make the effort to get the fundamentals right. Start with the Declaration

There is no God but God, law ielaa ha Iellallaah

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 03, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
I told you that I am not confessing my sins to you, What I said was for the hypothetical scenario you wanted to create. It was your own mind and heart that like all christians who base their faith on conjecture and not on the will of God!!!

Come on, Muj.  It wasn't a hypothetical.  It was very clear that you were confessing to real sin in your own life.  Here is a link if you want to review it: http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3344.msg15913#msg15913

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 03, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
2. The sin of any man is between him and his Lord. its not a matter for public debate unless it constitutes a crime against another person.

Then your lying is up for public debate, because you've committed that crime, not only against God, but against man as well.

Then your fornication is up for public debate, because you've committed that crime, not only against God, but against man as well.

Then your thievery is up for public debate, because you've committed that crime, not only against God, but against man as well.

Then your covetousness is up for public debate, because you've committed that crime, not only against God, but against man as well.

So, let's debate, Muj.  You said it, yourself, it is up for public debate if it is a crime committed against another person.

Is God just, or will he just let sin go unpunished?

And, as far as God says about himself, Isaiah 45:5-7

I am the Lord, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me.
I will gird you, though you have not known Me,
That they may know from the rising of the sun to its setting
That there is none besides Me.
I am the Lord, and there is no other;
I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, the Lord, do all these things.’

Quote from: ExMilitary on February 03, 2014, 02:07:14 PM

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 03, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
I told you that I am not confessing my sins to you, What I said was for the hypothetical scenario you wanted to create. It was your own mind and heart that like all christians who base their faith on conjecture and not on the will of God!!!

Come on, Muj.  It wasn't a hypothetical.  It was very clear that you were confessing to real sin in your own life.  Here is a link if you want to review it: http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3344.msg15913#msg15913

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 03, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
2. The sin of any man is between him and his Lord. its not a matter for public debate unless it constitutes a crime against another person.

Then your lying is up for public debate, because you've committed that crime, not only against God, but against man as well.

Then your fornication is up for public debate, because you've committed that crime, not only against God, but against man as well.

Then your thievery is up for public debate, because you've committed that crime, not only against God, but against man as well.

Then your covetousness is up for public debate, because you've committed that crime, not only against God, but against man as well.

So, let's debate, Muj.  You said it, yourself, it is up for public debate if it is a crime committed against another person.

Is God just, or will he just let sin go unpunished?

And, as far as God says about himself, Isaiah 45:5-7

I am the Lord, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me.
I will gird you, though you have not known Me,
That they may know from the rising of the sun to its setting
That there is none besides Me.
I am the Lord, and there is no other;
I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, the Lord, do all these things.’

DID YOUR QUESTIONS NOT START WITH IF????

DOES THAT NOT CONSTITUTE A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION? HAHAHAHAHA  You hilarious

I indulged you line of questioning did I not? 

YOU A BLASPHEMER ALL YOUR STATEMENTS ARE DUBIOUS AND QUESTIONABLE AS YOU HAVE BROKEN THE FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT OF COMMANDS

HEAR YE O' EX M.. THE LORD YOUR GOD IS ONE.

YOUR ABSURDITY STEMS FROM THE BREAKING OF THIS COMMAND>

MY ALLAH FORGIVES HE IS MOST MERCIFUL MOST FORGIVING, ALLAH IS THE JUDGE, ALLAH IS GOD

The fact that you cannot respect my views ( aim not saying accept it) indicates the level of that you have been brainwashed into thinking that you saved and therefore know something others don't. Well keep talking you will tell me exactly how low you IQ is

You will tell me exactly how little regard you have for other human beings. How arrogantly ignorant you are and worst of all exactly how brainwashed you are.

I have had the privilege of attending a Church School, As i grew up I was probably more in church than you were. I received a good Christian education. I was taught Latin to better understand the language of the Bible.

I am MUSLIM by choice made out of reading scripture, buddha, the vedas and the religion of the Incas and Appaches, similar to the African spirit worship.

I took the best of the religions, a natural progression of mankind as described in all the available text.

Not A single Lie have I encountered in my 40 years of study of Islam.

I am at level one of my knowledge as we are debating the first command of God as declared by all the Prophets of God.

That GOD IS ONE, Worship none beside him.

Dear, Muj.

Please read this post carefully.  It is glaringly obvious that you are not reading these posts.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 04, 2014, 02:03:03 AM
DID YOUR QUESTIONS NOT START WITH IF????

No, not a single question started with IF

Here is the link (again) http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3344.msg15913#msg15913

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 04, 2014, 02:03:03 AM
DOES THAT NOT CONSTITUTE A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION? HAHAHAHAHA  You hilarious

I suggest you look at that link, because you are making yourself look like a fool.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 04, 2014, 02:03:03 AM
I indulged you line of questioning did I not? 

Up to the point that you realized that your sin has you trapped, but you refuse to take it any further because you know where it will lead.  You are forced to face the fact that you are guilty.  A sinner, just like the rest of us.  The difference is, you have no payment for your sin.  You will face the court of justice and have no excuse for your sin.  Even now, in full knowledge that God is mighty and just, you continue to sin.  You still have lustful thoughts, you still lie.  Why do you do this?  Because you are human.  You won't be able to use ignorance as an excuse.  You have no payment for your sin.

QuoteYOU A BLASPHEMER ALL YOUR STATEMENTS ARE DUBIOUS AND QUESTIONABLE AS YOU HAVE BROKEN THE FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT OF COMMANDS

HEAR YE O' EX M.. THE LORD YOUR GOD IS ONE.

YOUR ABSURDITY STEMS FROM THE BREAKING OF THIS COMMAND>

MY ALLAH FORGIVES HE IS MOST MERCIFUL MOST FORGIVING, ALLAH IS THE JUDGE, ALLAH IS GOD

It is interesting that you say "MY" Allah rather than just Allah.  Could that be because the Allah of the Quran proves my point that Allah is most severe and that, really, the only way into 'heaven' is to kill yourself?  And that you have to create your own version of Allah to avoid the inevitable... being cast into Hell?  But, then again, that doesn't address your sin now, does it?  When you kill yourself... and if you believe God is just (and punishes all sin) then you can't really be sure, can you?

Muj, give me just ONE example of where Allah proves his forgiveness of sin.  ONE example where he demonstrates  with real activity... an act SO convincing that it leaves no doubt... that he loves you so much that he will forgive YOUR sin.  Just ONE Muj.

Do you know what God did, though, to pay for MY sin?  Do you know what God did, though, to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am forgiven?  Muj, while I was still a sinner, God sent his son to take my place so that I would not die for my sin.  God is just, and he will punish all sin.  Sin will be cast into hell.  Death will be cast into hell.  Anyone NOT found in Christ will be found IN death and IN sin...  when those two things are cast into hell, then so will those found IN them.

QuoteThe fact that you cannot respect my views ( aim not saying accept it) indicates the level of that you have been brainwashed into thinking that you saved and therefore know something others don't. Well keep talking you will tell me exactly how low you IQ is

You will tell me exactly how little regard you have for other human beings. How arrogantly ignorant you are and worst of all exactly how brainwashed you are.

I have had the privilege of attending a Church School, As i grew up I was probably more in church than you were. I received a good Christian education. I was taught Latin to better understand the language of the Bible.

1.  The Bible was not written in Latin.  The languages of the Bible are Hebrew, Chaldee/Aramaic, and Greek.
2.  Regarding your accusation of 'little regard', here you are committing the sin of 'bearing false witness'

QuoteI am MUSLIM by choice made out of reading scripture, buddha, the vedas and the religion of the Incas and Appaches, similar to the African spirit worship.

I took the best of the religions, a natural progression of mankind as described in all the available text.

The Greeks did the same thing.  If I remember correctly, their views were ultimately rooted in polytheism (paganism).

QuoteNot A single Lie have I encountered in my 40 years of study of Islam.

I am at level one of my knowledge as we are debating the first command of God as declared by all the Prophets of God.

That GOD IS ONE, Worship none beside him.

Your own sin proves that you tend to worship yourself because, when you sin, you are in essence telling God that your choices are more important than his commands.  In that sense, you break all laws and separate yourself from God.

Quote from: PeteWaldo on December 18, 2013, 09:33:40 AM

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AM
I take it from your response that you in contact with Satan? Or you know how he operates.

I indeed know how he operates as the New Testament explains it to us.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Just like when Satan met Muhammad in the cave of Hira. However not even as an angel but more like the devil himself, since Muhammad felt like the demon tried to squeeze the life out of him 3 times. No angel is revealed himself that way in the Scriptures.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3909.0

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AMSatan cant do anything physically.

If you had ever read the book of Job you would know that isn't true. Let alone that he made Muhammad feel, quite physically, as though he was getting the life squeezed out of him three times.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3909.0

One thing Satan cannot do is read our thoughts. That's likely why he didn't know whether to believe Muhammad when he told Satan he couldn't read, and thus asked him repeatedly (three times).

What your post demonstrates more than anything is that your knowledge of Satan, comes from Satan himself, through a bunch of 7th century SW Arabian desert dwelling illiterates. Satan, aka Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah", even tells you that he is the greatest of schemers!

Satan even deludes Muhammad's followers through simple child psychology, making them believe that just because they parrot "I seek shelter from Satan" that they will magically receive it, even as all the while Muhammad's followers are blaspheming and denying the God of the scriptures of the Jews and Christians.

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AMHe mere points you in the direction of your desires. You and most of the arrogant self professed experts on religion fail to grasp simple truths. If you on earth you a mortal not a God. You cannot say God has offspring. Sons what about daughters? Will the woman not accuse God of being sexist for having Son to acrifice while a woman actually give birth to the son of God? So Mary is the Mother of God? What blasphemy!!!  What utter stupidity to believe unknown authors or rather Nicean theories.

Your Lies and conjecture is Hilarious. You were in the CAVE of Hira?? You know SATAN was there or you wish that Gabriel is SATAN? YOUR ANSWERS BETRAYS YOUR NATURE AND WHO YOU REALLY FOLLOWING.
You know how SATAN operates because you one of his agents

ALL THE ANGELS HAS REVEALED THEMSELVES TO THE PROPHETS. Even to Mary
First, concerning John the Baptist, an angel appeared to his father Zacharias, a priest of the course of Abia, (Luke 1:5-7) whose "barren" wife Elisabeth was of the daughters of Aaron, while he ministered in the temple:


Gabriel on the southern deacons' door of the iconostasis in the Cathedral of Hajdúdorog, Hungary.
Luke 1:10 And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense.
11 And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense.
12 And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.
13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.
16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.
17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
18 And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.
19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.
20 And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.
(Luke 1:10-20 KJV) (other versions: Luke 1:1-25)
After completing his week[11] of ministry, Zacharias returned to his house (in Hebron)[12] and his wife Elizabeth conceived. After she completed "five months" (Luke 1:21-25) of her pregnancy, Gabriel is mentioned again:
Luke 1:26 ¶ And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.
37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.
38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
(Luke 1:26-38 KJV) (other versions: Luke 1:26-38)

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 04, 2014, 04:18:26 PM

Quote from: PeteWaldo on December 18, 2013, 09:33:40 AM

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AM
I take it from your response that you in contact with Satan? Or you know how he operates.

I indeed know how he operates as the New Testament explains it to us.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Just like when Satan met Muhammad in the cave of Hira. However not even as an angel but more like the devil himself, since Muhammad felt like the demon tried to squeeze the life out of him 3 times. No angel is revealed himself that way in the Scriptures.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3909.0

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AMSatan cant do anything physically.

If you had ever read the book of Job you would know that isn't true. Let alone that he made Muhammad feel, quite physically, as though he was getting the life squeezed out of him three times.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3909.0

One thing Satan cannot do is read our thoughts. That's likely why he didn't know whether to believe Muhammad when he told Satan he couldn't read, and thus asked him repeatedly (three times).

What your post demonstrates more than anything is that your knowledge of Satan, comes from Satan himself, through a bunch of 7th century SW Arabian desert dwelling illiterates. Satan, aka Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah", even tells you that he is the greatest of schemers!

Satan even deludes Muhammad's followers through simple child psychology, making them believe that just because they parrot "I seek shelter from Satan" that they will magically receive it, even as all the while Muhammad's followers are blaspheming and denying the God of the scriptures of the Jews and Christians.

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AMHe mere points you in the direction of your desires. You and most of the arrogant self professed experts on religion fail to grasp simple truths. If you on earth you a mortal not a God. You cannot say God has offspring. Sons what about daughters? Will the woman not accuse God of being sexist for having Son to acrifice while a woman actually give birth to the son of God? So Mary is the Mother of God? What blasphemy!!!  What utter stupidity to believe unknown authors or rather Nicean theories.

Your Lies and conjecture is Hilarious. You were in the CAVE of Hira?? You know SATAN was there or you wish that Gabriel is SATAN? YOUR ANSWERS BETRAYS YOUR NATURE AND WHO YOU REALLY FOLLOWING.
You know how SATAN operates because you one of his agents

Come on Muj. Everybody knows that Muhammad ran home and told  Khadijah that he met a demon in the cave of Hira. Didn't you click on the link?
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3909.0

Indeed since Khadijah talked Muhammad out of the truth - that it was a demon - we could say that Muslims actually worship Khadijah's alter-ego "Allah".

Quote from: PeteWaldo on February 04, 2014, 06:19:24 PM

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 04, 2014, 04:18:26 PM

Quote from: PeteWaldo on December 18, 2013, 09:33:40 AM

Quote from: Mujaheed on December 18, 2013, 09:08:54 AM
I take it from your response that you in contact with Satan? Or you know how he operates.

I indeed know how he operates as the New Testament explains it to us.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Come on Muj. Everybody knows that Muhammad ran home and told  Khadijah that he met a demon in the cave of Hira. Didn't you click on the link?
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3909.0

Indeed since Khadijah talked Muhammad out of the truth - that it was a demon - we could say that Muslims actually worship Khadijah's alter-ego "Allah".

I don't know what lies you were told, but I take it that you a grown man and can read words coherently for yourself?

Please relate the story and the source that indicates that.

Please elaborate as to how Satan is involved  in the revelation of scripture, for that is the case I have another scripture I would like to discuss with you that has over 20 unknown authors that all wrote and worded the original words in different styles and suggesting very blasphemous statements

SO SATAN CHOSE MUHAMMAD TO LEAD THE WORLD, ACCORDING TO YOU,

AND GOD CHOSE LETS SEE < PAUL (SAUL) WHO NEVER MET JESUS< WHO MURDERED OTHER CHRISTIANS, A LIGHT CAME TO HIM AND ITS REVELATION??

You regular hypocrite aren't you????  I indulged you because I thought you were a childish hypocrite, turns out you a special kind of hypocrite.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 05, 2014, 10:46:14 AM
AND GOD CHOSE LETS SEE < PAUL (SAUL) WHO NEVER MET JESUS< WHO MURDERED OTHER CHRISTIANS, A LIGHT CAME TO HIM AND ITS REVELATION??

You regular hypocrite aren't you????  I indulged you because I thought you were a childish hypocrite, turns out you a special kind of hypocrite.

When Paul received the light, he stopped murdering. (gospel received)

When Muhammad received the 'light' he did the exact opposite... he justified his murders. (anti-gospel received)

Quote from: ExMilitary on February 05, 2014, 03:00:40 PM

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 05, 2014, 10:46:14 AM
AND GOD CHOSE LETS SEE < PAUL (SAUL) WHO NEVER MET JESUS< WHO MURDERED OTHER CHRISTIANS, A LIGHT CAME TO HIM AND ITS REVELATION??

You regular hypocrite aren't you????  I indulged you because I thought you were a childish hypocrite, turns out you a special kind of hypocrite.

When Paul received the light, he stopped murdering. (gospel received)

When Muhammad received the 'light' he did the exact opposite... he justified his murders. (anti-gospel received)

Really, how insightful, and what happened to Paul when he did that? What did Paul base his action on? The fact that Christianity was not invented yet and it did not have an army? How long after Paul did the killing amongst christians start? You get my point of Hypocrisy, You reading snippets of Scripture in solution, you dividing Gospel into what you like and can use and deliberately ignoring the big picture. SO PAUL MURDERED PEOPLE? HE WILL ANSWER FOR THAT ON JUDGEMENT DAY, WE BELIEVE HE IS FORGIVEN BUT THERE IS A DAY OF RECKONING.

You an Ex Military person, have you adopted the religion and practices of Buddha or Ghandi, (non violent passive resistance?) both has proven that it will ultimately lead to huge human suffering in both cases at the hand of KAAFIR, disbelievers (people who don't believe in GOD)

Tell me: Did DAVID SLAY Goliath? Did samson kill 1000 men? Are their Armies of God?

Did Prophet Muhammad preach for 10 years in Makkah under very harsh conditions before going to Madina, was war declared on the Prophet day one of the Revelation? Did the Kuffaar of Makkah come to Madina or were they attacked in Makkah by the Prophet Muhammad? If you don't know the Answers then your Question is out of ignorance!!!!!

I don't know who is indoctrinating you but they are idiots, as big as MR Ellis Skollfield, The same arguments (unfounded baseless and absurd arguments) are put forth every time. Most Muslims shrug it off to Kufr (disbelief out of choice). I however choose to educate you.

The Prophet Muhammad did not murder anyone before or after his receiving revelation. Self Defense is not murder, basic human right to defend yourself against an enemy for the sake of God. It is Biblical, scriptural and divine decree given to all the prophets of the Past including Jesus.

WAS PAUL A PROPHET OF GOD?

WAS JOHN of PATMOS A PROPHET OF GOD? HE WROTE REVELATIONS/ APOCALYPSE (assumed Title)

WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF A PROPHET? WHAT IS A MESSENGER AND WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF A MESSENGER?

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM
Really, how insightful, and what happened to Paul when he did that? What did Paul base his action on? The fact that Christianity was not invented yet and it did not have an army? How long after Paul did the killing amongst christians start?

If you think I'm going to claim the actions of the Roman Catholic church as my own, you are sadly mistaken.  Roman Catholicism is full of idolatry, sexual deviancy, murder, and witch craft... and Jesus condemned the religion in the book of Revelation.  Paul NEVER taught to kill after receiving light.  Jesus taught that HIS kingdom was not of this world.  He never intended us to take it with the sword.

And my being ExMilitary has given me the ability to see that patriotism is a religion.  I pledge my allegiance to God, not a flag or a country.  I will do my best to prosper my neighbors (as Israel was commanded to do in Babylon), but I am very sad that my country has murdered thousands of people all over the planet.

Stick to scripture.  Murder is the antithesis of the gospel.

Fact of the matter is that the Quran (Muhammad's rule book) clearly instructs the killing of Jews, apostates, and unbelievers that will not submit to jizya.

The difference is that the GOSPEL IS LIFE.  People are commanded to repent from murders, idolatry, strife, envy, etc.

The Quran is death... People are commanded to make rules to justify their fleshly desires (temporary marriages, killing of Jews, taking of lands, etc).  It reminds me of the Pharisees who made up rules to get around "Honor your father and mother" because they wanted to be greedy and keep their own money.

Look, I've been in Saudi Arabia during Ramadan.  I've never seen a more hypocritical "fasting" in my life.  Fasting during the day, but gorging yourselves at night?  It is amazing, they can't even keep the shops closed throughout the night.  The fasting comes during the day, but the people are inwardly groaning, "When will this honoring of Allah end so that we may open our shops and resume business as usual?"

QuoteTell me: Did DAVID SLAY Goliath? Did samson kill 1000 men? Are their Armies of God?

Muj, these were FORESHADOWING  what would be true after Jesus was revealed.  These things are happening today, spiritually.  They will happen, both spiritually and physically, one final time in the future.  Israel was a preview, if you will, a historical guidebook that foreshadows the spiritual truths of the Kingdom of God.  One of these spiritual truths is, if you do not believe God as he has been revealed in the nation of Israel, then you have no part in the Kingdom.

There is a reason, Muj, that Jesus commanded Joshua to use trumpets to bring down Jericho... he showed John what that reason was on the isle of Patmos.

Jesus said that his kingdom is not of this world.  His kingdom is the heavenly kingdom... over which HE is king.  "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places".  One of these high places, Muj, is in your heart and mind.

QuoteThe Prophet Muhammad did not murder anyone before or after his receiving revelation. Self Defense is not murder, basic human right to defend yourself against an enemy for the sake of God. It is Biblical, scriptural and divine decree given to all the prophets of the Past including Jesus.

Again, you can not deny that the Quran teaches killing those that will not submit to Islam (in some way, shape, or form).  Many Muslims say that the passages are only referring to specific battles, or a very finite group of people at a specific time in history.  But that is a load of crud, and you know it.  The Quran clearly teaches murder is okay against those that won't submit to Islam because they were going to be killed anyway.  Be they Jews, apostates, unbelievers that will not submit to jizya...  Even the women of Islam are not safe.  I've got a book, right here in my hands.  It contains first-hand stories of people that have escaped Islam... true converts that found out what Islam was really all about.

Bottom line, the true gospel results in repentance and a new life... Islam results in justification of the same old deeds.

You will be responsible for answering to each of the points that are presented in this post, Muj.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM

Quote from: ExMilitary on February 05, 2014, 03:00:40 PM

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 05, 2014, 10:46:14 AM
AND GOD CHOSE LETS SEE < PAUL (SAUL) WHO NEVER MET JESUS< WHO MURDERED OTHER CHRISTIANS, A LIGHT CAME TO HIM AND ITS REVELATION??

You regular hypocrite aren't you????  I indulged you because I thought you were a childish hypocrite, turns out you a special kind of hypocrite.

When Paul received the light, he stopped murdering. (gospel received)

When Muhammad received the 'light' he did the exact opposite... he justified his murders. (anti-gospel received)

For obvious reasons:

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3909.0

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMReally, how insightful, and what happened to Paul when he did that? What did Paul base his action on? The fact that Christianity was not invented yet.........

Followers of the Messiah - the Christ (THE anointed one) - have been around, ever since the Messiah that we follow was made manifest to the world. The term "CHRISTian" was coined at Antioch (derogatory term for those that believed that Jesus is the Christ).

Act 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

So it is only expected that you, an antichrist, would seek to denigrate us, just as the Godless did back then. Would seek to persecute us for our faith, just as the Godless have for nearly 2,000 years, and all around the world today:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm

2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will  live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM........ and it did not have an army?

We have been a standing army ever since Jesus  Christ was made manifest to the world. In websites and this forum we continue to slice and dice the false prophet Muhammad and his anti-religion, with the armor and weapons that God gave us.

Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMHow long after Paul did the killing amongst christians start? You get my point of Hypocrisy, .........

Not at all. Paul was lost, just like you. Then he was saved and filled with the Spirit of our great God.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM........ You reading snippets of Scripture ........

Says the guy that ignores the hundreds of verses in scripture that describe the Father and His Son.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/god_the_father.htm
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/jesus_the_son_of_god.htm

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM......in solution, you dividing Gospel into what you like and can use and deliberately ignoring the big picture.

You again described yourself my friend. Who has all power over heaven and earth?

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Who is the alpha and omega?

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMSO PAUL MURDERED PEOPLE?

He did indeed, before he was saved and born again and filled with the Spirit of God.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMHE WILL ANSWER FOR THAT ON JUDGEMENT DAY, ...........

No, because His sins were washed away, because they were atoned for on the cross by the precious blood  of the sacrifice of the Lamb of God.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm

You are choosing to stand before the very Son of God that you reject in judgment, while wearing a lifetime of accumulated sin for a wardrobe, actually believing that is your pass into paradise.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM.......... WE BELIEVE HE IS FORGIVEN BUT THERE IS A DAY OF RECKONING.

There perhaps will be for antichrists, that reject the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and deny and blaspheme the Son of God.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM
You an Ex Military person, have you adopted the religion and practices of Buddha or Ghandi, (non violent passive resistance?) both has proven that it will ultimately lead to huge human suffering in both cases at the hand of KAAFIR, disbelievers (people who don't believe in GOD)

Sure Muj. Peace and love have always lead to war.

John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

That must be absolutely horrifying to a Muhammadan!

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM

Tell me: Did DAVID SLAY Goliath? Did samson kill 1000 men? Are their Armies of God?

Indeed they were. But the scriptures didn't end with the historical record of David and Samson. Please address that on the other thread on which you raised the subject:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=4019.msg16227#msg16227

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM
Did Prophet Muhammad ............

First of all, Muhamamd was a conspicuously false prophet, with only false prophecy to his credit.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM........... preach for 10 years in Makkah under very harsh conditions ............

What should he have expected but to be laughed out of town after telling his preposterous tale about riding around on an entirely unwitnessed flying donkey-mule?

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM........ before going to Madina, .....

Where the Muhammadans mass murdered the Jews, raped their little girls and wives, and stole the fruit of the labor of generations.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM...... was war declared on the Prophet ......

No it was Muhammad that was the imperialistic conquerer, just like other reprobates before him like Genghis khan, and those after him, that emulated him, like Adolph Hitler.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_and_jews.htm

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM....... day one of the Revelation? Did the Kuffaar of Makkah come to Madina or were they attacked in Makkah by the Prophet Muhammad?

They were attacked in Mecca just like peaceful peoples were throughout the Arabian peninsula during Muhammad's lifetime, and as perpetrated by the reprobates that followed Muhammad all the way up into France and Austria after Muhammad's lifetime.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMIf you don't know the Answers then your Question is out of ignorance!!!!!

The answers are to be found throughout this forum.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM
I don't know who is indoctrinating you but they are idiots, as big as MR Ellis Skollfield, ........

Many hundreds of years ago those great men of God of the Reformation recognized the evil of Islam in Bible prophecy.
http://www.christianeschatology.com/historicism.htm#reformers_on_islam

Of Revelation chapter 9:  John Foxe who authored Foxe’s Book of Martyrs wrote that it is “clearer than light itself” as being a prophecy of the Muslim conquests.

Albert Barnes: “With surprising unanimity, commentators have agreed in regarding this to the empire of the Saracens (Muslims), or to the rise and the progress of the religion and the empire set up by Muhammed.”

W.B. Godbey: “This chapter is a thrilling description of the rise and progress of the Mohammedan wars.”

Of the locusts of Revelation 9:  Adam Clarke: “certainly agrees better with the Saracens than with any other people or nation” and “agrees very well with the troops of Mohammed.”

Matthew Henry: “the armies of the Mohamedan empire.”

John Wesley: “All this agrees with the slaughter which the Saracens made for a long time after Mahomet’s death.”

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM........ The same arguments (unfounded baseless and absurd arguments) are put forth every time.

The arguments are hermeneutically sound.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_beast.htm

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMMost Muslims shrug it off to Kufr (disbelief out of choice).

That's right, because ALL MUSLIMS are ANTICHRIST.

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMI however choose to educate you.

No, you choose to blaspheme the very Son of God that you will stand before in judgment:

Jhn 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM
The Prophet Muhammad did not murder anyone before or after his receiving revelation.

That is a filthy lie. He started out by having poets that pointed out his nonsense murdered, and wound murdering innocent folks throughout the Arabian peninsula. Like the literate, peaceful, faithful, productive Jewish tribes of Medina, who were everything that Muhammad was not.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMSelf Defense is not murder, basic human right to defend yourself against an enemy for the sake of God.

Only a foolish liar could characterize Islamic imperialistic aggression all the way up to Tours France and Vienna Austria as "self defense".

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMIt is Biblical, scriptural and divine decree given to all the prophets of the Past including Jesus.

7th century Muhammadan imperialistic murder - just like today - is a morally reprobate activity of Muhammadanism alone. At least you finally admit that you approve of Muhammadan murder of innocents, in your failed attempt to justify it through the scriptures.

http://petewaldo.com/old_testament_violence.htm
"By Muhammad's day, 1,500 years had passed since any Hebrew prophet was described in the Old Testament as using a sword in the service of God. Neither Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Micah, Amos, Malachi nor any other later Hebrew prophet is described as using the sword or prescribing its use."

So let's start with your attempt to parrot the Muhammadan BIG LIE regarding Islam's so-called "defensive" imperialistic conquest and subjugation of all of the peaceful people in their path. Almost the entire Arabian peninsula was conquered during Muhammad's lifetime, with his followers in his model of slicing and dicing their way all the way up to Tours France and Vienna Austria, through the power of the sword.
As prophesied:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Nhx-bf44Q

And Fulfilled:
".... according to one unidentified Arab, 'That army went through all places like a desolating storm.' sacking and capturing the city of Bordeaux, and then defeating the army of Duke Odo of Aquitaine at the Battle of the River Garonne â€" where the western chroniclers state, 'God alone knows the number of the slain'â€"[3] and Odo fled to Charles Martel, seeking help." 
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#battle_of_tours

Is there some part of Islam's imperialism you are unable to understand Muj?

Quote from: PeteWaldo on February 11, 2014, 07:04:42 PM

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM
The Prophet Muhammad did not murder anyone before or after his receiving revelation.

That is a ridiculous lie. He started out by having poets that pointed out his nonsense murdered, and wound up murdering folks throughout the Arabian peninsula.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMSelf Defense is not murder, basic human right to defend yourself against an enemy for the sake of God.

Only a foolish liar could characterize Islamic imperialistic aggression all the way up to Tours France and Vienna Austria as "self defense". That makes you a filthy liar for Satan.

http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm#islamic_first_jihad

From Islam's most highly regarded Hadith: Bukhari V4 B52 #73: Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abi Aufa: Allah's Apostle said, "Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords." (also #210 & #266)

Sahih Muslim B 20 #4681 The tradition has been narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Qais. He heard it from his father who, while facing the enemy, reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Surely, the gates of paradise are under the shadows of the swords. A man in a shabby condition got up and said; Abu Musa, did you hear the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say this? He said: Yes. (The narrator said): He returned to his friends and said: I greet you (a farewell greeting). Then he broke the sheath of his sword, threw it away, advanced with his (naked) sword towards the enemy and fought (them) with it until he was slain. (also B 19 #4314)

No surprise then that young Muslim men travel to engage in foreign wars, and are so willing to blow themselves up in Islamic suicide bombings for the same reason suggested by the surviving Boston Marathon bomber, who actually believes his murderous brother is a "martyr" in "paradise". Lavished in Muhammad's promise of multiple virgins to defile, in the carnal chicken and wine serving bordello of Muhammad's overactive imagination, that he called paradise.

From several sources: "The Sword is the key of heaven and hell; a drop of blood shed in the cause of Allah, a night spent in arms, is of more avail than two months of fasting and prayer; whoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven, and at the day of judgment his limbs shall be supplied by the wings of angels and cherubim."

The Power of the Sword:

623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia.
633 - Battle at Oman
633 - Battle at Hadramaut.
633 - Battle of Kazima
633 - Battle of Walaja
633 - Battle of Ulleis
633 - Battle of Anbar
634 - Battle of Basra,
634 - Battle of Damascus
634 - Battle of Ajnadin.
634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph.
634 - Battle of Namaraq
634 - Battle of Saqatia.
635 - Battle of Bridge.
635 - Battle of Buwaib.
635 - Conquest of Damascus.
635 - Battle of Fahl.
636 - Battle of Yermuk.
636 - Battle of Qadsiyia.
636 - Conquest of Madain.
637 - Battle of Jalula.
638 - Battle of Yarmouk.
638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem.
638 - Conquest of Jazirah.
639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt.
641 - Battle of Nihawand
642 - Battle of Ray in Persia
643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan
644 - Conquest of Fars
644 - Conquest of Kharan.
644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph.
647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress
644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman.
648 - Campaign against the Byzantines.
651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines.
654 - Islam spreads into North Africa
656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph.
658 - Battle of Nahrawan.
659 - Conquest of Egypt
661 - Ali is murdered.
662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule.
666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims
677 - Siege of Constantinople
687 - Battle of Kufa
691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq
700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam
700 - Military campaigns in North Africa
702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira
711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar
711 - Conquest of Spain
713 - Conquest of Multan
716 - Invasion of Constantinople
732 - Battle of Tours in France.
740 - Battle of the Nobles.
741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa
744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr.
746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha
748 - Battle of Rayy.
749 - Battle of lsfahan
749 - Battle of Nihawand
750 - Battle of Zab
772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa
777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain

The anti-religion of Islam has not changed over 1400 years, because the Quran cannot be changed. The world war of today is the same, Dar Al-Salaam or "house of peace" VS the Dar Al-Harb or "house of war", as it has been throughout Islamic history. If you are a Muslim you are in the house of peace, but if you are a non-Muslim you are in the house of war, and while you may not be at war against Islam, Islam has been at war against you for 1400 years.

After we exhaust the previous subject we will work on the following, in light of your earlier false proclamation that Islam's battles were defensive, when in fact they were imperialistic aggression:

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AMIt is Biblical, scriptural and divine decree given to all the prophets of the Past........

Historical record of individual incidents do not constitute ordinances. Nor was any open license ever granted to God's people to go out conquer and subjugate others to themselves. There were only specific instances of specific events.

Let alone that the 7th century AD Muhammadan murder through imperialistic conquest, and subjugation of others - just like today - is a morally bankrupt reprobate activity, of Muhammadanism alone. At least you finally admit that you approve of Muhammadan murder of innocents.

http://petewaldo.com/old_testament_violence.htm
"By Muhammad's day, 1,500 years had passed since any Hebrew prophet was described in the Old Testament as using a sword in the service of God. Neither Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Micah, Amos, Malachi nor any other later Hebrew prophet is described as using the sword or prescribing its use."

Quote from: Mujaheed on February 06, 2014, 02:12:04 AM......... including Jesus.

Please explain.