Peter's preface note
np is one of those Muslims that claims Islam is peaceful, as a practitioner of the Islamic art of dissimulation. In a prior conversation he did a very good job of demonstrating that the Muslims that pretend peace, are simply content to sit on the sidelines while the fundamentalists, that follow their religion and prophet, do the heavy lifting of murder of non-muslims and global conquest. He wrote
"YOU ARE COWARD WHY YOU DON'T SHOW UP YOUR SELF ON PUBLIC PLACES? WHY YOU ARE AFRAID FROM THE FANATICS? IF YOU ARE REAL BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR SAVIOR HE WILL PROTECT YOU FROM THAT KIND OF DEATH WHICH FANATICS CAN GIVE YOU!"
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=361.msg1748#msg1748
He's content to let the fundamentalists that he pretends are "fanatics" engage in Jihad in his place.
Of course even Jesus demonstrated some caution, until His ministry had matured, and He was ready to be crucified.
Jhn 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
If I had preached Jesus in a fundamental Islamic mosque as my opener, and been beheaded at the beginning of my ministry to those poor folks, the video that has attracted almost a quarter million views, with the heaviest traffic coming from the Middle East and Northern Africa, might never have been made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-_20sjHVI
Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
Let alone that every day of ministering to Muslims I learn more about Islam and the Word of God.
The conversation began.....
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np33123 (1 week ago)
According to you Islam is false and it is from Satan . Lets now see what is the opinion about the Satan in the Judaism and Christianity . Jews say He is an Angel who was created for that purpose by YHWH .Satan is playing roll as prosecutor he must tempt the people and they say that is YHWH ' S will Satan to do so . Christianity says Satan is fallen Angel who try to go against YHWH which is so RIDICULOUS ! Which one is the right one ? Who is telling the truth ??
np33123 (1 week ago)
How can Jews and Christians to be Friends and brothers , when Judaism till today says Jesus Christ ( Yeshuah Meshih ) is the false Messiah?
np33123 (1 week ago)
There is no concept of Satan in Judaism.
There is no concept of the Devil.
Satan, in Judaism, is an obedient and loyal angel who was entrusted with the critical task of seeking out wrong doing and of challenging the faithful. Notice that Satan did NOT go out on his own accord, but presented accusation (Satan can translate 'adversary' or 'accuser') against Job to G-D and G-D instructed and permitted the Adversary to put Job to the test.
np33123 (1 week ago)
WHAT THE JEWISH RABBI SAYS ABOUT SATAN YOU CAN READ HERE:
http://www.outreachjudaism.org/satan.html
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
That was np's response to my comment on his channel:
"It all comes down to a choice, doesn't it. ONE MUST CHOOSE.
Between the God of the Jews and Christians that his people have followed for 3500 years through 2 covenants as detailed in His 1600 year record THROUGH ALL of the prophets and witnesses, or the STAND-ALONE religion of A SINGLE 7th century "prophet" from whom a single prophecy has never been fulfilled, who never performed a single miracle, who not a single person ever heard Gabriel or Allah give a revelation to."
brotherpete. com
He has difficulty figuring out what's "ridiculous". All of the prophets and witnesses - or Mohammed.
I have a considerable history with my friend np the imam, much of which is recorded here:
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=361.0
I explain to him that he's a Gentile and not a Jew but he apparently keeps forgetting.
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
A choice between the only person in human history ever to be conceived by a virgin by the will of God as Muslims agree.
The only sinless person in human history, who lives today, as even Muslims agree.
Or a 7th century prisoner raping, murdering, thief, whose corpse still lies rotting in its shallow grave.
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allahs Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Ishaq:466 "The Apostle chose one of the Jewish women for himself. Her name was Rayhana. She remained with him until she died, in his power. The Apostle proposed to marry her and put the veil on her but she said, 'Leave me under your power, for that will be easier.' She showed a repugnance towards Islam when she was captured."
np33123 (1 week ago)
PeteWaldo tell me please when Jesus Christ raised from the dead in which body He raised did He raised in the same body or that was some another kind of body ? Did He do to the Heaven with the material body in which he lived on the Earth ?
np33123 (1 week ago)
DEAR VISITORS ON PETEWALDO'S CHANEL TAKE YOUR TIME AND READ THAT SURA FROM THE HOLY QUR'AN :
http://www.jannah.org/qurantrans/quran59.html
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Jesus ascended to the Father and returned in what is referred to as his "glorified body", which was very much physical when He demonstrated to His disciples.
Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
There is no further discussion regarding His physical state before He is described as
Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
To what sura from the Quran do you refer? I refer to many. If folks want to read suras from the Quran they can find videos like "Sum of Islam" and "Islam 101" and in favorites a 2 part "Islam the Opposite" etc. in all of which I compare verses side-by-side and highlight that Mohammed's record is the EXACT OPPOSITE of that revealed through the Word of God. You mean a Sura like this?
Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
I wrote
"There is no further discussion regarding His physical state...."
But should have said "I am not immediately aware of further discussion...." and there is lots I don't know or remember!
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
How come you are still too much of a coward to join me in the forum np?? I entered a great new post today on the divinity of Jesus Christ
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=211. msg3464#msg3464
np33123 (1 week ago)
Well that means Jesus Christ is in the Astral ( Spirit ) World with His physical body . WOW ! That is really a great MIRACLE !? WOW !
np33123 (1 week ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMtLFWLzJHU&feature=related?
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
"Well that means Jesus Christ is in the Astral? ( Spirit ) World with His physical body . WOW ! That is really a great MIRACLE ! WOW !"
For being an imam you don't seem to know much about Islam. Your brethren believe that Jesus was physically, bodily, taken up to God before the cross because of this sura that follows the blasphemous sura denying the crucifixion
4.158 Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
They even believe He will return in His physical body only to be killed, because of that verse Mohammed lifted from the Egyptian apocryphal fable and Jesus talking as an infant. If you doubt your brethren thought Jesus was physically lifted up it is confirmed many times in this thread from chats I had in a Sunni forum
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=628.msg2919#msg2919
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Regarding your Yusuf Estes video he is a bigger looser than even Ahmed Deedat. watchv=YDslsWDzPIc
He is one of the guys that was deceived into believing he was a Christian that converted to Islam. The problem is that even in his own testimony he declares that his father and himself were in ministry for the money, so he never was a Christian. Besides the fact that it isn't possible for a Christian to be deceived by a false prophet.
Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
np33123 (1 week ago)
First you did not tell me does Jesus Christ when to the Spirit World with his physical body ? If He is not in the Spirit World then where He is ?
np33123 (1 week ago)
What you gonna do when you hear and see what Jesus Christ will say to prophet Muhammad how He Jesus will kiss and hag Prophet Muhammad ? Where you will go at that time and what you will say then ? All MUSLIMS who were on your channel are witnesses against you and all ALLAH'S angels are too ! Your KAFIR PRIDE will GO TO the REAL HELL with you !
np33123 (1 week ago)
CORRECTION:
BY MISTAKE I WROTE BELOW ( THE WORD HAG ) IT IS HUG
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
You can't read. I said that the last comment I could recall regarded Jesus' physical state as flesh and bones. He had already ascended up to and descended down from heaven. The bible is silent on whether remained in a physical state or whether He can, for example, change from a spiritual state to physical state and back. Since He is God I believe He can do anything he wants.
But perhaps all of us that aren't cast into the lake of fire with Mohammed and his Islamic kingdom beast will have bodies we can assume and leave. The bible is silent on it so perhaps I shouldn't even have speculated on? it.
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Sure. Jesus who said
Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Will be kissing and hugging the false prophet Mohammed who said
"...but they killed him not, nor crucified him..."
Guess again
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Please visit "The Beast of Revelation 13" at the top of my videos to get a glimpse at your future.
PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Old Testament prophecy
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Fulfilled in Jesus Christ
Matthew 1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
np33123 (6 days ago)
The 25 of December is not the birth day of Jesus Christ that day which you Christians celebrate is false !
np33123 (5 days ago)
THE LINK? TO SURAH AS-SAFF:
http://noblequran.com/translation/surah61.html
np33123 (5 days ago)
PETEWALDO YOU ARE CALLING ME COWARD BUT I AM NOT HIDING FROM YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE !
WHY YOU ARE HIDING IF YOU ARE NOT COWARD ? SHOW YOUR SELF ON THE VIDEOS ! YOU ARE LIKE THE EGYPTIAN COWARD WHO DID SO MANY VIDEOS AGAINST ISLAM AND DOESN'T SHOW HIS FACE . IF HE HAS REAL BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AS HIS SAVIOR THEN THERE IS NOT REASO TO BE AFRAID !
np33123 (5 days ago)
JESUS CHRIST IS GOD , BUT HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF HIS DISCIPLES :
CHAPTER 13 /32
"OF THAT DAY AND HOUR KNOWS NO MAN NOR THE ANGELS WHICH ARE IN HEAVEN NOR THE SON , BUT THE FATHER ONLY "
HERE WE CAN SEE THE FATHER IS THE GREAT GOD WHO IS HIDING THAT INFORMATION EVEN FROM THE SON !
PeteWaldo (5 days ago)
np I accidentally removed one of your posts but found it on another browser. You wrote
"PETEWALDO SAID :
I said the bible is silent on Jesus' physical state after He revealed Himself to His Apostles and hundreds of others, as flesh and bones. Since He is God I believe He can do whatever He wants.
np33123 SAID:
IF JESUS CHRIST IS GOD WHY HE NEEDS TO BE BORN FROM VIRGIN WOMAN WHY HE DID? NOT COME WITH THAT BODY OF MAN WHO IS AT AGE 33 YEARS OLD? WHY HE NEEDS TO GROW FROM BABY TO 33 YEARS OLD MAN AND THAN TO SHOW TO THE WORLD HE IS GOD ?"
PeteWaldo (5 days ago)
The answer to those questions is because that is the way God chose to reveal Himself to us. God doesn't "need" anything.
If Jesus hadn't been manifest as a baby in? a virgin, then the Old Testament prophecy that I quoted immediately below, written many hundreds of years before Jesus was manifest, would have been wrong.
PeteWaldo (5 days ago)
"PETEWALDO YOU ARE CALLING ME COWARD BUT I AM NOT HIDING FROM? YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE !"
But you know that's untrue. For long over a year I have invited you to the forum where we can have a substantive discussion, but you prefer this limited character, snipe and run, YouTube format, where you can run and hide from words previously spoken as they rotate away to back pages. Nor can we quote each other or post live links.
If you aren't a coward in the mold of your prophet, and you think you can defend the religion that you are a leader in, then why have you been so afraid to join me for well over a year?
Simply click the first link in any one of my videos and join me to prove you aren't a coward.
PeteWaldo (5 days ago)
The answer as to why Jesus did not know a few things, at the time that He revealed that to us, is because He was still manifest to us as a man in the flesh. A physical man with a body just like yours and mine. He had not yet been crucified, died, resurrected, and in His glorified body. Here is what Jesus said after those events
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO? ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH.
np33123 (4 days ago)
My RELIGION doesn't need to be defend it's DEFENDER is THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING included JESUS CHRIST and YOU TOO ! That is ALLAH ALMIGHTY HE IS YHWH !
About your invitation it is not bad but i told you last year? if you can not give me the right answers here on YouTube then why i have to waste my time there ? !
np33123 (4 days ago)
By mistake i deleted your post comment you can send it again .
np33123 (4 days ago)
PeteWaldo ANSWERED & MY COMMENT ABOUT HIS ANSWER :
The answer as to why Jesus did not know a few things, at the time that He revealed that to us, is because He was still manifest to us as a man in the flesh. THAT MEANS HE WAS NOT YET A GOD RIGHT ?. A physical man with a body just like yours and mine.NO GOD YET RIGHT ? He had not yet been crucified, died, resurrected, and in His glorified body.HIS GLORIFIED BODY WAS AGAIN BODY FROM FLESH AND ACCORDING TO YOU WITH THAT BODY HE BECAME GOD AND WENT TO HEAVEN WITH THAT PHYSYCAL BODY RIGHT ? WOW !!!
np33123 (4 days ago)
PETEWALDO:
The answer to those questions is because that is the way God chose to reveal Himself to us. God doesn't "need" anything.
If Jesus hadn't been manifest as a baby in a virgin, then the Old Testament prophecy that I quoted immediately below, written many hundreds of years before Jesus was manifest, would have been wrong.
np33123: THAT ANSWER IS SO RIDICULOUS ! ACTUALLY THAT IS NOT THE ANSWER AT ALL ! BUT FOR PERSON LIKE YOU WITH CHRISTIAN MIND IT IS GREAT ANSWER .
PeteWaldo (4 days ago)
"PETEWALDO YOU ARE CALLING ME COWARD BUT I AM NOT HIDING FROM YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE !"
But you know that's untrue. For long over a year I have invited you to the forum where we can have a substantive discussion, but you prefer this limited character, snipe and run, YouTube format, where you can run and hide from words previously spoken as they rotate away to back pages. Nor can we quote each other or post live links.
If you aren't a coward in the mold of your prophet, and you think you can defend the religion that you are a leader in, then why have you been so afraid to join me for well over a year?
Simply click the first link in any one of my videos and join me to prove you aren't a coward.
PeteWaldo (4 days ago)
"THAT ANSWER IS SO RIDICULOUS !"
It was your questions that were ridiculous. Speaking of God you asked "...WHY HE NEEDS TO BE...". when asking about God. You are asking me to tell you things of the mind of God. We could never understand God's mind and speculating is in vane. We can only know about God as He revealed Himself to us through ALL of the prophets and witnesses that you must reject to remain a follower of Mohammed.
Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
My answer explained how Jesus birth was prophesied by Isaiah many hundreds of years before the event. That is the kind of thing those prophets revealed, that we can know.
PeteWaldo (4 days ago)
".HIS GLORIFIED BODY WAS AGAIN BODY FROM FLESH AND ACCORDING TO YOU WITH THAT BODY HE BECAME GOD AND WENT TO HEAVEN WITH THAT PHYSICAL BODY RIGHT ? WOW !!!"
That is not what I said. I said, as far as I know, the bible is silent on any other change in His body after Jesus revealed Himself that way to His disciples. However every Muslim that answered my question said they believe Jesus was taken up to his "Allah" physically - in the flesh.
PeteWaldo (4 days ago)
You have just shown exactly why you prefer 500 character YouTube bits and pieces. You can lie about what I said, because my words are already spammed to the next page. Nobody will bother to look back to verify that I am correct in my claim that you lied. If we were in the forum we could readily see the post and link to it and quote it, etc.
This is why you are a coward and shows EXACTLY WHY you have been terrified of coming into the forum where we can have a real, continuous, and substantive discussion.
And you, an imam, so afraid. But then your false prophet Mohammed was a coward too. You are simply being like him.
Surah 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.
PeteWaldo (4 days ago)
Now why don't you put on your big boy pants and join me in the forum?
brotherpete. com/index. php
np33123 (3 days ago)
Surah 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.
PeteWaldo that means , THE HUMANS ARE UNDER THE TEST ON THIS EARTH AND WE ARE USING NOT 100% OF THE CAPACITY OF OUR BRAINS BUT FEW PER CENTS ONLY.
IF WE ARE USING A FEW PER CENTS ONLY OF OUR BRAINS AND WE HUMANS ARE SO EVIL WORST THAN SATAN ( IBLIS -AZAZIL )HIM SELF, CAN YOU IMAGINE IF WE CAN USE 100% OF OUR BRAINS WHAT WILL BE ( MAY CAUSE YOU TROUBLE ) ! IT ALSO MEANS THAT, IF WE HUMANS KNOW THE THINGS WHICH ARE HIDDEN FROM US AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THEM PROPERLY YET
THAT WILL BE WORST THAN DISASTER ! ALLAH PROMISED TO RECREATE US TO BE PERFECT AND THEN WE WILL KNOW THE THINGS 100% . CAN YOU CHRISTIANS AND JEWS CLAIM YOU TO BE PERFECT AND TO HAVE ANSWERS OF ALL QUESTIONS ?
np33123 (3 days ago)
PeteWaldo Said :
"THAT ANSWER IS SO RIDICULOUS !"
It was your questions that were ridiculous. Speaking of God you asked "...WHY HE NEEDS TO BE...". when asking about God. You are asking me to tell you things of the mind of God. We could never understand God's mind and speculating is in vane. We can only know about God as He revealed Himself to us through ALL of the prophets and witnesses that you must reject to remain a follower of Muhammad.
np33123 answered :
IF YOU COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND GOD'S MIND THEN WHY YOU ARE TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE QUR'AN WHICH IS COMING FROM GOD'S ( ALLAH IS 100% EQUAL WITH THE YHWH ) MIND AND YOU ARE USING YOUR HUMAN MIND TO DO SO ?
np33123 (3 days ago)
ISLAM IN AMERICA SEE BELOW :
http://muslimwiki.com/mw/index.php/Native_Americans_and_Islam
IS THAT TRUE ?
PeteWaldo (3 days ago)
That isn't what it means at all np. Mohammed HATED questions about his homemade religion because he was constantly caught by his own words. Indeed Mohammed left his book in such a mess that is requires abrogation to sort the contradictions out. Mohammed's getting caught with his pants down is why he was such a joke to the Jews, who had been following God for 2000 years before Mohammed invented his pop 7th century religion.
Even today, in Islamic parts of the world, if a Muslim asks too many questions of their imam they are put on a suspected "apostate" list. Mohammed HATED questions
"Allah has hated for you three things: ... 3. And asking too many questions (in disputed religious matters)." (Dr. Khan, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 2, #555)
PeteWaldo (3 days ago)
"IF YOU COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND GOD'S MIND THEN WHY YOU ARE TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE QUR'AN WHICH IS COMING FROM GOD'S (? ALLAH IS 100% EQUAL WITH THE YHWH ) MIND....."
The Quran is the REVEALED book of Satan - the OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ as revealed in the Word of God.
You were asking me questions that one could only answer if they knew what God was THINKING. You were asking me to speculate on questions that WERE NOT revealed, and phrasing them preposterously as "....why would God need...?".
"...... AND YOU ARE USING YOUR HUMAN MIND TO DO SO?"
Using my mind and heart to know God AS HE REVEALED HIMSELF. Not to speculate about instances of what God "needs" for heaven's sake. My God doesn't NEED anything.
PeteWaldo (3 days ago)
Now why don't you answer the question that you always avoid, and tell us why it is that you reject ALL of the prophets and witnesses of the 1600 year record of God to mankind as revealed through His Word, to follow a 7th century murdering (http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=127.0), prisoner raping (http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=856.msg3411#msg3411), thief (http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=608.0)?
np33123 (3 days ago)
PeteWaldo :
Now why don't you answer the question that you always avoid, and tell us why it is that you reject ALL of the prophets and witnesses of the 1600 year record of God to mankind as revealed through His Word, to follow a 7th century murdering, prisoner raping, thief?
np33123: I GAVE YOU THE ANSWER SO MANY TIMES ! WHAT CAN I DO IF YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND IT ? BUT YOU DID NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION : DID PROPHET MUHAMMAD KNOW HE IS DEALING WITH SATAN IF YES GIVE ME PROOF FOR THAT ! IF HE DID NOT KNOW THE QUR'AN IS THE BOOK FROM SATAN HOW YOU CHRISTIANS AND JEWS CLAIM TO BE , THEN PROPHET MUHAMMAD IS 100% INNOCENT , BUT WHY GOD LET THAT TO HAPPEN ? WHERE IS GOD MERCY ? IS GOD PLAYING WITH HIS CREATURES JUST TO HAVE SOME ACTIONS ?
PeteWaldo
We can see in np's non-answer below that he failed, once again, to tell us why it is he follows an unrepentant - murdering, prisoner raping, thief.
The reason he does not answer is because he cannot deny these characterizations because this is EXACTLY THE WAY MOHAMMED IS REVEALED, through Islam's own books.
Yet np rejects ALL of the prophets and witnesses as they are revealed in the Word of God, to follow Mohammed.
np33123 (19 hours ago)
Yes we can see very clear who can not answer the questions me np or petewaldo . There is not a single MUSLIM on this World who rejects any of the Jewish prophets ! I don't know what petewaldo is talking about ?
np33123 (19 hours ago)
PeteWaldo said he can not know the MIND of God ( YHWH =ALLAH ) and at the same time he tried to blame the creator ALLAH to be the Moon god and to be Satan and not the same YHWH . And that HOLY BOOK QUR'AN to be the book of Satan . But he forgot the FACT that the QUR'AN is not like the Torah ( TAWRAT ) or the GOSPELS (INDJIL ) it is the BOOK with which the scientists are amazed !
np33123 (11 hours ago)
EVERY INTELLIGENT MAN ON THIS PLANET EARTH MUST WATCH THIS EXPLANATION? :
http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveringIslamOrg
PeteWaldo (31 minutes ago)
The Creator is not named Allah. The Creator gave us His name. It is YHWH - Yahweh - "I AM".
Allah does not mean "I AM" in Arabic. You still bow to Mecca, where where the moon god resided, 5 times a day.
It's God that tells us we can't know His mind. As I have shown you it is a lie to say that some Arabic pagan deity is God. You blaspheme God's name when you write YHWH =ALLAH
Either the 1600 year record of God to mankind through ALL of the prophets that His people have followed for 3500 years is holy, or the STAND-ALONE RECORD of A SINGLE 7th century murdering, prisoner raping, imperialistic thief, that was and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ was. ONE MUST CHOOSE.
PeteWaldo (20 minutes ago)
"Yes we can see very clear who can not answer the questions me np or petewaldo . There is not a single MUSLIM on this World who rejects any of the Jewish prophets ! I don't know what petewaldo is talking about "
I said Mohammedans MUST REJECT ALL OF THE PROPHETS AND WITNESSES AS THEY ARE REVEALED THROUGH THE WORD OF GOD, to follow Mohammed's phony 7th century record. Mohammed even switched your "holy" day to Friday. He was so ignorant about Abraham, that Mohammed wrote as though Abraham and Nimrod were contemporaries, when they didn't even live within 700 years of each other!!!
PeteWaldo (17 minutes ago)
That you posted that link regarding the Quran "code" is really fun. Here is what Rashid's and his "Submission" followers have come up with. Google 66619. org - or Quran 666 - or sura 1 to sura 33 is 666
"The number 666 is highly publicized all over the world and it is associated with evil and danger.
However, it is not what it seems. It was a Satanic trick.
The trick was to prevent the people approaching the 666.
Satan knew that the 666 is the book of GOD and the people should be kept away from it.
According to his plan, he placed a bad image to the number 666."
PeteWaldo (16 minutes ago)
"The truth is that This Quran is the 666 , The Book from The Lord of the Universe."
"The First Sura in the Quran, 666, is Praise. This sura is the gift of GOD to us to establish Contact with Him through our daily Contact Prayers. "
"GOD made His Messenger a witness with the letter Qaf and the number 666."
PeteWaldo (14 minutes ago)
Please see my video "Islam, Quran, Mohammed and 666" for much more!!!
watch?v=Yq9kvfhMWmo
Also our webpage at - beholdthebeast. com/islam__quran_and_666. htm
np33123 (6 hours ago)
The Jews at that time of prophet Muhammad EVEN they accepted ALLAH to be EQUAL to YHWH just most of them did not accept prophet Muhammad to be a prophet
they called him a poet . They did not accept Jesus as Christ ( MESSIAH ) till today . Even the pagan Arabs knew THAT ALLAH IS THE ONLY ONE CREATOR ( THE GOD )
but they worshiped the idols as demigods in their understanding . If ALLAH is the Moon god why the Moon god commands in the QUR'AN .... " DON'T WORSHIP THE MOON , THE SUN AND THE STARS BECAUSE I AM THEIR CREATOR "..... etc. Do you think He is Bipolar like you ? Why the Arabic speaking Christians call Jesus Christ in Arabic language ....." O IISA MESSIH O? OUR ALLAH HEAR US "......
ARE THEY CALLING THE MOON GOD OR THE SATAN ?
np33123 (5 hours ago)
WHAT YOU GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT IS THAT? WORK OF SATAN ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYa-6C3A6mk
PeteWaldo (6 minutes ago)
Arabic speaking Christians are simply in error. They are of the misunderstanding that allah is a generic term for God, when it is not. We can see the truth to that from the first pillar of Islam "there is no ilah but Allah".
That Arabic speaking Christians are in error, doesn't change the Word of God, or God's name
Exd 3:13...and they shall say to me, What [is] his name?...14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Allah does not mean "I AM" in Arabic. So you, my friend, believe God's NAME to be Allah. Thus YOU BLASPHEME GOD'S NAME. And Satan has every "good" Muslim blaspheme God's name, what, at least 495 times a day?
Matthew 6:7 But? when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
PeteWaldo (1 minute ago)
"WHAT YOU GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT IS THAT WORK OF SATAN ?"
As we learn from the book of Job, for example, when allowed, Satan is more than capable of performing such things. But as we also learn from scripture, Islam is a pure work of Satan, which is obvious because it's 7th century murdering, prisoner raping, child doing, concubine fornicating, stepson's wife taking, sex slave pimping, imperialistic thief "prophet" WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ and the new covenant witnesses.
And you know you can't deny a single characterization of Mohammed above as this is how he is revealed through your own books.
np33123 (2 days ago)
Tell me what is the meaning of the word God ?
np33123 (21 hours ago)
What Jesus Christ did to the world when He died on the cross and His blood was shed for our sins , did he change the World from Bad to Good ?? Did He BLOCKED the Satan not to do EVIL ? Is Satan and his forces POWERLESS after Jesus Christ shed His blood ? When and how Jesus Christ will totally destroy the Satan ? Why Jesus Christ left that for the future and did not do that the first time ? Give me the right answers if you are telling the truth !
np33123 (12 hours ago)
There are so many Christians who are sick from cancer and other diseases why Jesus Christ is not doing miracles to His followers to cure them , but He went to cure Muslims
Does that maker any sense? ? Why only Muslims why not Jews, Hindus , Buddhist etc. ?
PeteWaldo (17 minutes ago)
There have been many instances of Jesus' healing miracles among His people, from the first century and ever since, through elders laying on of hands.
But in regard to illness, this isn't heaven my friend. Some folks are exposed to more trials than others, but the Lord doesn't allow a burden that his people can't endure. I am sure that you have seen folks with no arms and legs, that nonetheless feel blessed and rejoice, because they have a life in Jesus Christ and know that their life on this earth, is but a tiny vapor in eternal terms. Let me bring scripture to bear
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
PeteWaldo (9 minutes ago)
"What Jesus Christ did to the world when He died on the cross and His blood was shed for our sins , did he change the World from Bad to Good? Did He BLOCKED the Satan not to do EVIL ? Is Satan and his forces POWERLESS after Jesus Christ shed His blood ?"
The answer to those questions is a resounding YES, for those of us (His) that have been called out of this world, and now reside in the kingdom of God.
For those such as yourself, that have been shown the Gospel, and continue to reject His shed blood to follow A SINGLE 7th century false prophet, that taught the opposite, it's an entirely different matter.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.
PeteWaldo (8 seconds ago)
[[[When and how Jesus Christ will totally destroy the Satan?]]]
When He casts Satan in the lake of fire. While that is written in the figurative language of a prophetic vision, it doesn't spell a picnic for Satan, THE false prophet (that ain't the tooth fairy), or the beast (the false prophet's kingdom)
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
[[[[ Why Jesus Christ left that for the future and did not do that the first time?]]]
I would have to know God's mind to know that "why".
Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
PeteWaldo (1 second ago)
In the meantime we can only know God by the way He revealed Himself over 1600 years through all of the prophets and witnesses of His Holy Word.
Slightly divergent post posted on np's own channel
np33123 (18 hours ago)
In 2008 he was arrested by Daphne City police as a suspect for arson HE TRIED TO CLAIM INSURANCE MONEY , HE IS A VERY BIG CROOK . HOW CAN SUCH A PASTOR TO BE LIKE THAT ? IT IS BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS FAR? FROM HIM . 95% OF THE CHRISTIANS ON THIS WORLD ARE LIKE HIM ! HIS GUIDANCE IS NOT FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT BUT FROM THE MAMON !
Shorrosh is the translator of The True Furqan, which is intended to be somewhat of an attempt to challenge the Qur'an. Shorrosh translated the book from English to Arabic language, however the true identity of the book's original authors is not proclaimed. NO ONE WILL ACCEPT HIS TRANSLATION WE DON'T NEED IT WE KNOW THE THINGS BETTER THAN HIM !
np33123 (18 hours ago)
Anis Shorrosh is a Palestinian, Arab evangelical Christian, who has published many books and has debated with the late Ahmad Deedat.
Shorrosh served as pastor and evangelist in the Middle East from 1959-1966. In September 1995, Dr.Shorrosh was guest lecturer at NCI Bible College, Auckland, New Zealand. In the years 2004-2005, he held a tour around? the world, giving lectures and holding debates.
Answer on np's channel
PeteWaldo (1 second ago)
[[[[HE TRIED TO CLAIM INSURANCE MONEY , HE IS A VERY BIG CROOK . HOW CAN SUCH A PASTOR TO BE LIKE THAT ? IT IS BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS FAR? FROM HIM .]]]]
You made a good point.
So then how do you feel comfortable judging a single 20th century random individual for arson, when you reject God as revealed through His Word, to follow a man that is revealed through your own books, as a pillaging, plundering, murdering, prisoner raping, child doing, stepson's wife taking, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic thief?
A thief that cut even himself in for 1/5 of the property stolen from others, just like a Mafia don.
np33123 (15 hours ago)
PeteWaldo is that your answer ? That answer is so weak . But how can you answer things which you don't know . Weak is your knowledge PeteWaldo very weak .? In your eyes you think you are great but in reality you know nothing .
np33123 (13 hours ago)
The miracles of prophet Moses and prophet Jesus Christ are in the HISTORY , but the MIRACLE? which was given to prophet Muhammad is 1431 years old
and it is still in effect till the end of the World and that is the QUR'AN !
np33123 (11 hours ago)
What the word God means ? Do that mean YHWH (? I AM WHO I AM ) ?
np33123 (11 hours ago)
THAT WAS THE REASON? THEY PUT IN HIS VACCINE A LOT OF MERCURY TO DESTROY HIS BRAIN AND TO HAVE STROKE ! NOT JESUS CHRIST PUNISHMENT ! WATCH THE VIDEO :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw50ZDhL8K0&feature=related
PeteWaldo (11 seconds ago)
"In your eyes you think you are great but in reality you know nothing ."
In my eyes I am? just a lowly sinner, my friend.
The only miracle regarding the Quran is that somebody would fail to recognize that the Quran is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel, and recognize it's murdering, raping, thief prophet, as the antichrist evil that they are.
Regarding the "Word" - John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The word "God" as used in scripture is a generic term for the deity of Christians and Jews whose name is YHWH - "I AM".
The word "god" as used in Islam describes a god named "Allah" that archaeological evidence suggests was the name of the moon god of the Kaaba in Mecca.
PeteWaldo (1 second ago)
Did I ever suggest that Deedat's paralysis was the result of God's punishment on him? No. Here's why
(I just pasted this verse a few posts ago. Why not try reading it this time.)
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
You see? Rain falls on the just, and it also falls on unjust antichrist liars like Ahmed Deedat.
Please watch the featured video on this page wherein I expose Deedat's fraud and deception, perpetrated on his poor deluded, adoring, bible ignorant, minions.
np33123 (4 days ago)
The word "God" as used in scripture is a generic term for the deity of Christians and Jews whose name is YHWH - "I AM".( IN HEBREW LANGUAGE YES BUT NOT IN ENGLISH , JESUS CHRIST DID NOT CALL YHWH WITH THE WORD GOD WHICH WORD HAS A LOTS OF MEANINGS AND NOTHING TO DO WITH YHWH . TODAY JEWS NEVER CALL YHWH WITH THE WORD GOD EVEN THEY SPEAK ENGLISH THEY CALL HIM (HASHEM ) JESUS , HE DID NOT SPEAK ENGLISH HE SPOKE HEBREW , ARAMAIC AND IN ARAMAIC HE CALLED YHWH ( ALLAHA) !
The word "god" as used in Islam describes a god named "Allah" that archaeological evidence ( SHOW ME THAT EVIDENCE )suggests was the name of the moon god of the Kaaba in Mecca. THAT'S WHY THE MOON GOD WHO SEND THE QUR'AN COMMANDS IN THE QUR'AN ..." DON'T WORSHIP THE SUN , THE MOON AND THE STARS BECAUSE I AM THEIR CREATOR ..." !
np33123 (3 days ago)
Didn't God know by giving to Adam and Eve free will that gonna put them to great trouble ? If He God knew that , then why He gave that free will to them and to us ? To send his son to be our Savior ? Man you can believe what ever you want .You believe in the ALLEGORY i believe in the REALITY !
np33123 (2 days ago)
Also i want to mention here that , prophet Muhammad did not die from the poisoned meat which the Jewish woman prepared for him and his companions to kill all of them , but he died 4 years later at age 62 from different thing .( ALLAH asked him if he wants to live more on the Earth He will give him long live but he decide to die and to go to the HEAVEN to be together with ALLAH and to RULE his UMMAH from there till the end of the days ! ) That poison my friend was so powerful he should die in 5 minutes but he die 4 years later from different thing ! If he was not with SUPPER NATURAL POWER what do you think can he survive that long ?
np33123 (2 days ago)
PeteWaldo can you tell me why the Jews are using on their NATIONAL flag the six pointed star ( as SYMBOL )what is represents ?
np33123 (2 days ago)
WHAT RABBI SAY ABOUT ISLAM ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfByvw_jomo?
PeteWaldo (2 days ago)
Hey np, why don't you come help poor formy. He's drowning in Mohammed's religion.
Just like you, he can't explain why it is that he follows an unrepentant thief.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=873.0
np33123 (1 day ago)
I can not see your comments of that what i sent you below . Why ?
np33123 (1 day ago)
Hey np, why don't you come help poor formy. He's drowning in Mohammed's religion.
Just like you, ( LIKE ME ? ) WOW ! he can't explain why it is that he follows an unrepentant thief. I DID EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY I AM FOLLOWING THE HOLY AND THE LAST PROPHET MUHAMMAD ! WHY YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH YOUR RELIGION AND YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE ME CHRISTIAN LIKE YOU ?HELP THE JEWS? TO BECOME CHRISTIANS !
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=873.0
PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
"I can not see your comments of that what i sent you below . Why ?? "
Because it is completely unimportant and distracts you from the truth. Why don't you help poor formy? Because you are helpless yourself.
Mohammed didn't die of poison because the guy that he was with did, and so Mohammed spit it out before it barely touched his lips. Even so, the Quran records that he complained of the poisoning for the next few years before he met his early, and untimely death, in a whimper, from a fever. Some say it was the effects of the poison. Personally it's irrelevant to me.
But it was a particularly unseemly death for someone? that was so good at handing off his sword, and sending others out to be killed, in his place.
watch?v=MG1MiLqH0jc
PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
Of what relevance is a symbol made by men?
Of what relevance are the words of a still sovereignly blinded Jew on Islam?
Let's get into the Word of God and the Quran.
Why don't you quit being a coward and join us in the forum. Poor formy could really use the help of an imam
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=873.0
PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
"Hey np, why don't you come help poor formy. He's drowning in Mohammed's religion.
Just like you, ( LIKE ME ? ) WOW ! he can't explain why it is that he follows an unrepentant thief. I DID EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY I AM FOLLOWING THE HOLY AND THE LAST PROPHET MUHAMMAD !
But you never explained why you would follow an unrepentant thief, much less a prisoner raping, child doing, fornicating, murderer, any more than formy has.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=873.msg3537#msg3537
np33123 (20 hours ago)
IF I AM BLIND FOR THE TRUTH LIKE YOU ARE THEN I SHOULD ASK YOU : WHY YOU ARE BELIEVING IN ONE BOTTOM GAY WHO NEVER HAD WIFE AND CHILDREN AND NORMAL MAN LIFE WITH WOMAN ? WHO HAD NO POWER TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF HIS DISCIPLES WHEN WILL BE THE LAST DAY AND HE SAID ONLY GOD KNOWS THAT . WHY YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE BIBLE WHICH IS THE BOOK OF EVIL AND THAT GOD THERE IS BIPOLAR DISCRIMINATOR ? HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE IN MOSES WHO WAS A MURDERER ? HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE IN KING DAVID WHO WAS A MURDERER? ? HOW CAN YOU FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST WHO DID NOT WIN AGAINST SATAN TILL TODAY WHAT HIS BLOOD WAS SHED FOR ? WHERE IS HIS GLORY ? ARE THOSE THINGS TRUE ? IF THEY ARE NOT THEN HOW CAN BE TRUE THE THINGS WHICH YOU JUST WISH TO BE TRUE ?
BE LBIND PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY FOREVER ! AMEN !
np33123 (20 hours ago)
But you never explained why you would follow an unrepentant thief, much less a prisoner raping, child doing, fornicating, murderer, any more than formy has.
UNREPENTANT THIEF ? A PRISONER ? CHILD DOING ? FORNICATING ? MURDERER ? WOW ,WOW , WOW . ( con........ ) :
np33123 (20 hours ago)
BE BLIND PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY FOREVER AMEN !
np33123 (12 hours ago)
But it was a particularly unseemly death for someone that was so good at handing off his sword, and sending others out to be killed, in his place.
( YOUR god JESUS CHRIST WAS POWERLESS ON THE CROSS BUT HE DID RISE FROM THE DEATH AND IS STILL POWERLESS TO DEMOLISH SATAN FROM WITHIN FOR 2010 YEARS ) !
IN OUR HOLY QUR'AN IS SAID ..." EVERY SOUL WILL TASTE THE DEATH ...." ! ) IN ISLAM WE HAVE THE GREAT SECRET ABOUT EVERYTHING WHICH YOU CHRISTIANS AND JEWS DON'T KNOW AND HAVE NOT IDEA OF THAT WHAT WE KNOW ! STILL BELIEVE IN YOUR DELUSION !
np33123 (12 hours ago)
Mohammed didn't die of poison because the guy that he was with did, and so Mohammed spit it out before it barely touched his lips.( YOU REALLY MADE ME LOUGH LISTEN PETEWALDO BEFORE YOU START TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING YOU MUST HAVE FULL KNOWLEDGE OF THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. OF COURSE PROPHET MUHAMMAD ATE FROM THE POISONED MEAT AND HE SAID TO HIS COMPANIONS NOT TO EAT BECAUSE THE MEAT IS POISONED , AND I THINK YOU SHOULD KNOW THE REST OF THAT STORY ) .? Even so, the Quran records that he complained of the poisoning for the next few years before he met his early, and untimely death, ( REALLY ? WHAT KIND OF FAKE STORY YOU ARE TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO ME ? YOU HAVE NOT IDEA WHY HE DIED AND WHAT WAS THE REAL REASON FOR HIS DEATH . DON'T YOU REMEMBER WHAT ALLAH ASKED HIM , IF YOU RED THE RIGHT HADITH ? ) in a whimper, from a fever. Some say it was the effects of the poison. Personally it's irrelevant to me. (CONT.) :
PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)
[[[[UNREPENTANT THIEF ?]]]]
A whole chapter on stealing the property of others and references outside that chapter as well.
[[[[[A PRISONER (raping)?]]]]]
"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee ... those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war
[[[[[CHILD DOING ?]]]]
You cannot deny that Mohammed did Aisha when she was 9 years old because your own books confirm it.
PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)
[[[[[ FORNICATING ?]]]]
With concubines. Tabari IX:147 "A eunuch named Mubur was presented to Muhammad along with two slave girls. One he took as a concubine, the other he gave to Haasn."
[[[[[[ MURDERER? ?]]]]]
It began with the murder of poets and escalated into pillage and plunder of caravans and then beheading 600 to 800 Jewish boys and men farmers and continued from there.
[[[[[ WOW ,WOW , WOW . ( con........ ) : ]]]]]
Indeed! Your "prophet" not mine.
PeteWaldo
PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)
[[[YOU REALLY MADE ME LOUGH LISTEN PETEWALDO BEFORE YOU START TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING YOU MUST HAVE FULL KNOWLEDGE OF THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.]]]
Don't be silly. You know that the reason you are too much of a coward to join me in the forum is EXACTLY because Mohammed's own record exposes him as being EXACTLY as I characterize him. That's why you have to cower and hide in YouTube bits and pieces instead of having a real conversation.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=856.0
That's why you couldn't go to poor formy's aid when he was left drowning in Mohammedanism.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=873.0
PeteWaldo
np33123 (1 hour ago)
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PETEWALDO LOOK THE SYMBOL OF THE JEWISH NATIONAL FLAG IS PAGAN :
The Star ( or Shield ) Of David is no? where Mentioned in Biblical Scriptures as a Sign or Symbol for Hebrews. The so-called " star of David " is actually the six pointed star of the god Remphan and it is associated, with the worship of the system of Baal and Ashtoreth or Moloch.
The prophet Amos denounces the true Hebrews who had fallen into this idolatry practice in (Amos 5:21-27) This is the same star of Rempham which St. Stephen accused "? The high priests , Saducees and scribes ,of worshiping
np33123 (1 hour ago)
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ALSO WHEN YOU GIVE EXAMPLES FROM THE HOLY OF THE HOLIEST BOOKS THE QUR'AN ? OR THE HADITHS PLEASE DON'T SAY THE THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT .
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PeteWaldo (42 minutes ago)
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Where does the bible instruct Jews how to make a flag? Men will be men np. Some even follow a murdering thief.
See how you try to run and hide from truth by trifling in subjects of irrelevance?
And there IS NO CONTEXT under which a God would condone prisoner rape, pillage, plunder, theft, murder, fornication, and a 53 year old man? violating a 9 year old girl, as demonstrated by one of the blackest hearts in human history.
np33123 (4 hours ago)
Even now in 21 century in the hot countries like ( Egypt, Israel, Arabia, Africa etc. ) to marry girl which is 9 years old is not criminal . It shows you are not that intelligent what you are trying to make your self. You have not real knowledge about how the woman body in the hot counties is growing fast . I have two wives the first one was 15 years old when i marry her the second one was 11 years old and at age 12 she gave birth to my second? son . What is the problem with that ?
PeteWaldo (3 minutes ago)
[[[Even now in 21 century in the hot countries like ( Egypt, Israel, Arabia, Africa etc. ) to marry girl which is 9 years old is not criminal . It shows you are not that intelligent what you? are trying to make your self.]]]]
What it perfectly shows is that you, my friend, are blinded by Satan, just as your false prophet Mohammed was.
Do you realize that you never - even for a moment - stopped to wonder what the 9 year old girl might want? How the 9 year old girl might feel about being defiled by a filthy 53 year old lecher?
Daniel prophesied this of Mohammed
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women....
PeteWaldo (1 minute ago)
You see? You, just like your false prophet, you have? no regard whatsoever for what a girl or woman might desire.
That's why women in Islam, are nothing more than the property of men, who assign them their lives. Fathers or brothers will decide who they will date, or who they will marry. And if the girl doesn't like it, or fall in love with someone else, then their own father or brother may stomp and stab them to death to preserve their honor.
If the wife wants a divorce her husband might behead her like the founder of Bridges TV in New York.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=honor+killing+islam&search_type=&aq=f
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/women_in_islam.htm
np33123 (16 minutes ago)
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women....
THAT MY FRIEND IS NOT ABOUT MUHAMMAD , BUT ABOUT THE DADJAL =THE ANTICHRIST WHO IS JEW FROM THE TRIBE OF DAN HE WILL BE THE WORLD PRESIDENT NOT MUHAMMAD OR ANY OTHER MUSLIM LEADER ! PLUS THE ANTICHRIST WILL BE HOMOSEXUAL MOSTLY BOTTOM GAY ! YOU WILL SEE THAT WITH YOUR OWN EYES . I TOLD YOU IN ISLAM WE KNOW SECRETS WHICH YOU EVEN CAN NOT IMAGINE .
PeteWaldo (6 seconds ago)
Trying to hide in a fantasy doesn't change how Mohammed and you are blinded by Satan to the desires of women.
The same reason 21st century Muslim men, can't even begin to imagine, why a wife wouldn't want to compete with three other wives, for the affection of one man.
Islam's "secret", my friend, is that Satan is it's founder.
np33123 (12 hours ago)
who assign them their lives. Fathers or brothers will decide who they will date, or who they will marry. ( PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LEARN AND UNDERSTAND ISLAM AND THEY ARE PRACTISING THE LAW OF THEIR TRIBE ) . And if the girl doesn't like it, or fall in love with someone else, then their own father or brother may stomp and stab them to death to preserve their honor.
If the wife wants a divorce her husband ( YES SHE CAN GET IT EASY BY GOING TO THE MUFTI AND EXPLAINS THE PROBLEM ) might behead her like the founder of Bridges TV in New York. ( ONLY BLIND FANATICS WHO NEVER UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT TEACHINGS OF ISLAM CAN DO SUCH A THINGS ) !
np33123 (12 hours ago)
who assign them their lives. Fathers or brothers will decide who they will date, or who they will marry. ( PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LEARN AND UNDERSTAND ISLAM AND THEY ARE PRACTISING THE LAW OF THEIR TRIBE ) . And if the girl doesn't like it, or fall in love with someone else, then their own father or brother may stomp and stab them to death to preserve their honor.
If the wife wants a divorce her husband ( YES SHE CAN GET IT EASY BY GOING TO THE MUFTI AND EXPLAINS THE PROBLEM ) might behead her like the founder of Bridges TV in New York. ( ONLY BLIND FANATICS WHO NEVER UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT TEACHINGS OF ISLAM CAN DO SUCH A THINGS ) !
np33123 (12 hours ago)
who assign them their lives. Fathers or brothers will decide who they will date, or who they will marry. ( PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LEARN AND UNDERSTAND ISLAM AND THEY ARE PRACTISING THE LAW OF THEIR TRIBE ) . And if the girl doesn't like it, or fall in love with someone else, then their own father or brother may stomp and stab them to death to preserve their honor.
If the wife wants a divorce her husband ( YES SHE CAN GET IT EASY BY GOING TO THE MUFTI AND EXPLAINS THE PROBLEM ) might behead her like the founder of Bridges TV in New York. ( ONLY BLIND FANATICS WHO NEVER UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT TEACHINGS OF ISLAM CAN DO SUCH A THINGS ) !
np33123 (9 hours ago)
Prophet Muhammad was not the first prophet to have more than one wife:
PeteWaldo how the wives of those prophets compete with each other ?
1. Prophet Abraham: 3 wives (Sarah, Hagar, Caesura).
2. Prophet Jacob: 4 wives (Lea, Zelda, Rachael, Palma).
3. Prophet Moses: 4 wives (Safire, Gibshia, bint Kini, bint Hobab).
4. Prophet David: 9 wives.
5. Prophet Solomon: 700 wives and 300 slaves.
np33123 (9 hours ago)
6- Zainab bint Khozaima.
7- Juwairiah bint Al Hareth.
8- Maria
9- Um Salama Hind bint Suhail
10 - Safeia bint Akhtab
11 - Um Habiba Ramla bit Aby Sufian.
12- Maimona bint Al Hareth.
np33123 (9 hours ago)
The last and the real Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H .
Never was married to 12 wives at the same time:
1- Khadija bint Khowailed.
2- Sawda bint Zamaa.
3- Aisha bint Abu Baker.
4- Hafsa bint Omar
5-? Zainab bint Jahesh.
np33123 (8 hours ago)
If Jesus Christ doesn't have wife and was not married that doesn't mean all Jews , Christians , Muslims must be like Him . We don't know why He was like that only YHWH = ALLAH knows that? secret . Here i want to mention and to say to PeteWaldo that , Allah doesn't mean YHWH but God doesn't mean that EITHER , but ALLAH means THE GOD in ARABIC THIS RICH LANGUAGE MORE HIGH THAN HEBREW language ! PeteWaldo you MUST know that fact we HUMANS are created by the CREATOR PSYCHO - SEXUAL BEINGS and You are not able to change that !
np33123 (12 hours ago)
You see? You, just like your false prophet, you have no regard whatsoever for what a girl or woman might desire.( HOW I SAID THEY ARE NOT CHILDREN? HOW YOU THINK , THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MIND THAN YOUR CHRISTIAN CHILDREN IN THE COLD WEATHER COUNTRIES ) . EVEN SOME OF THE CHRISTIAN CHILDREN IN AFRICA THEY CAN MARRY AT AGE 9 , 11,12, ETC. BUT YOUR LAW DOESN'T ALLOW THAT IT IS CRIMINAL FOR YOU.
That's why women in Islam, are nothing more than the property of men, ( TOTALLY FALSE , MY WIVES ARE FREE TO GO IF THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH ME FOR SO MANY YEARS , WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL ISLAMIC LAW ABOUT THIS MATTER ) CONT. :
PeteWaldo (1 hour ago)
I can see why you were desperate to flush away the truth to successive pages.
But every one of your comments again reinforce, that you still remain completely blind to the point.
And now that you admit that you are a polygamist yourself, I can see why you refuse to see the truth.
Is being screwed by a 53 year old man WHAT A 9 YEAR OLD GIRL WANTS?
Is competing with other wives for one man's attention, what wives really want?
PeteWaldo (1 hour ago)
Reprobates following your false prophet, dredge up 3000 year old passages from scripture, and pretend that the historical record of how people lived when we were desert dwelling nomads, applies to the 21st century lust filled men. Are the old covenant Jews polygamists today? No. Rabbinic Judaism has outlawed the practice, because they are with God, and they understand the desires of women, and care about their women more than themselves.
Muslim males, preoccupied their own 21st century lusts, don't even stop to understand that 3000 years ago men were slaughtered by the tens of thousands, leaving lots of women without the prospect of a husband to protect and care for them, because there were too many women.
Today in the world, THERE ARE MORE MEN than women - OF MARRYING AGE - and so for every filthy old lecher that takes to himself 4 wives, 3 young men will have to do without. Same thing as being a pig at the dinner table.
PeteWaldo (57 minutes ago)
Solomon a prophet. That's hilarious! According to the record and the people that are actually OF the old covenant (the Jews) Solomon followed other gods which automatically disqualifies him from any suggestion of prophet hood.
But then Mohammed created his own god:
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers....
Just more foolish misunderstanding resulting in more nonsense from Mohammed, like his goof-up indicating that Abraham and Nimrod were contemporaries, even though the historical record shows that they didn't live within 700 years of each other.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=861.0
PeteWaldo (24 minutes ago)
While we are on the subject of Islamic abuse of women, let's talk a little about rape in Islam.
"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee ... those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ... for believers [at large]; we know what we have appointed for them ... the captives whom their right hand possess...(Sura 33:50-51)
Are Muslims to believe that women would be interested in consensual sex with? their captors, that had just murdered their fathers, husbands and sons? That would be preposterous, of course. It could only be construed as rape.
PeteWaldo (23 minutes ago)
Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522:? Narrated Anas bin Malik:We arrived at Khaibar, and when Allah helped His Apostle to open the fort, the beauty of Safiya bint Huyai bin Akhtaq whose husband had been killed [by Mohammed's men when they attacked that peaceful Jewish farming community] while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself, and set out with her, and when we reached a place called Sidd-as-Sahba,' Safiya became clean from her menses then Allah's Apostle married her.
PeteWaldo (23 minutes ago)
24: ...The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave.".....
PeteWaldo (19 minutes ago)
Surah 4:24 Also (prohibited are) women already married, EXCEPT those whom your right hands possess:...
Are Muslims to believe that God would sanction the rape of captured still-married women as well?
Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution WHEN they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0
Let alone prostituting out one's sex slaves?
Women and girls were just more stolen property - more "spoils of war and booty" of imperialistic conquest - according to Mohammed.
PeteWaldo (2 minutes ago)
For those wondering what Mohammed meant by "....and when Allah helped His Apostle to open the fort....", an example is Mohammed's attack on the peaceful farming community of the Qurayza
Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
And of course Mohammed a big fan of the "spoils of war - booty"
Tabari VIII:38 "The Prophet selected for himself from among the Jewish women of the Qurayza, Rayhanah bt. Amr. She became his concubine.
PeteWaldo (1 second ago)
[[[[[If the wife wants a divorce her husband ( YES SHE CAN GET IT EASY BY GOING TO THE MUFTI AND EXPLAINS THE PROBLEM ) ]]]]]]
That's hilarious. And if the Mufti says he doesn't buy her problem she can go back home and have her husband beat her (like the woman who came to Mohammed complaining of her husband, whose color was described as being green from so much beating, who Mohammed told to go back to her husband).
What does a man have to do to divorce his wife? Say "I divorce you" three times and it's done. In some parts of the world Muslim men are even divorcing their wives by typing that 3 times in a text message. Yahoo it.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=text+message+divorce&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-832
PeteWaldo (3 seconds ago)
[[[1. Prophet Abraham: 3 wives (Sarah, Hagar, Caesura).]]]]
More Mohammedan nonsense. Abraham had one wife - Sarah.
Hagar was Sarah's handmaiden through which Sarah encouraged Abraham to have a son, which Hagar did, that was named Ishmael (not unusual to carry on a man's name).
But eventually God did allow Sarah to have a son which they named Isaac. Sarah caught Ishmael mocking Isaac and told Abraham to throw the boy and his mother out of the house. God confirmed to Abraham to do so. After that even God didn't recognize Ishmael as a son of Abraham.
Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest....
PeteWaldo (3 seconds ago)
[[[1. Prophet? Abraham: 3 wives (Sarah, Hagar, Caesura).]]]]
More Mohammedan nonsense. Abraham had one wife - Sarah.
Hagar was Sarah's handmaiden through which Sarah encouraged Abraham to have a son, which Hagar did, that was named Ishmael? (not unusual to carry on a man's name).
But eventually God did allow Sarah to have a son which they named Isaac. Sarah caught Ishmael mocking Isaac and told Abraham to throw the boy and his mother out of the house. God confirmed to Abraham to do so. After that even God didn't recognize Ishmael as a son of Abraham.
Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest....
np33123 (20 hours ago)
Today 21 st century men is worst than the men who used to dwell in the desert !
np33123 (20 hours ago)
[[[1. Prophet? Abraham: 3 wives (Sarah, Hagar, Caesura).]]]]
More Mohammedan nonsense. Abraham had one wife - Sarah.
Hagar was Sarah's handmaiden through which Sarah encouraged Abraham to have a son, ( THAT LOOKS LIKE ABRAHAM COMMIT ADULTERY WITH SARAH'S PERMISSION JUST TO HAVE SEX WITH THE EGYPTIAN WOMAN HAGAR , AND THEY WERE NOT GUIDED BY YHWH = ALLAH . AND AFTER ISMAIL WAS BORN TO THROW HIM AS GARBAGE AND NOT TO CARE ABOUT HIM ANY MORE , BUT YOU FOR GET WHAT ALLAH = YHWH SAID T O ABRAHAM ..." ISMAIL I WILL NOT FORGET AND FROM HIM I WILL MAKE A BIG NATION ...." IS THAT LIE ? which Hagar did, that was named Ishmael (not unusual to carry on a man's name). CONT......
np33123 (20 hours ago)
But eventually God did allow Sarah to have a son which they named Isaac. Sarah caught Ishmael mocking Isaac( DOESN'T THAT SHOW YOU THE WISE OF THE PROVIDENCE HOW ISMAIL MOCKED ISHAK BECAUSE FROM ISHAK WILL BECOME A NATION WHICH WILL TERRORIZING THE WORLD AND THE REAL AND ONLY ONE ANTICHRIST WILL COME FROM DAN DESCENDANT OF SHAK ) and told Abraham to throw the boy and his mother out of the house. God confirmed to Abraham to do so. After that even God didn't recognize Ishmael as a son of Abraham.( YOU ARE DOING ALL THE TIME GREAT BLASPHEMY AND THE TIME TO PAY FOR THAT IS NEAR JESUS CHRIST WILL BE NOT ABLE TO HELP YOU ! )
Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest.... ( BY MISUNDERSTANDING THOSE WORDS HERE YOU MADE YHWH=ALLAH DISCRIMINATOR ) .
np33123 (19 hours ago)
All examples which you are giving here from the Qur'an or from the hadiths are out of context . And you know that very well , it is not a new thing , that KAFIRS to go against the last prophet Muhammad it start 1431 years a go and will continue to the end till all of you enter the real JAHENNEM / HELL ! Also you had the stupidities to say that King Solomon was not a prophet and he became pagan, worshiping the pagans gods WOW, WOW, WOW you red the Bible and you did not understand it . Is he now in hell ? What is your definition for the prophet ? How about his father David /DAUD was he prophet or no ? Even Samson was he prophet or no ?
PeteWaldo (17 hours ago)
The only other context besides Islam, for murder, fornication, thievery, and pimping out sex slaves is the Mafia.
The only context for marching into a peaceful town, and beheading 6-800 boys and men, then stealing their property, and taking their wives and children as sex slaves, is Mohammed's black heart.
Don't complain about not enough context when you foolishly choose this YouTube sound bite venue, remaining too much of a coward to come into the forum, where we have A LOT MORE CONTEXT.
You are a as much of a coward as your false prophet when it comes to hiding from the truth.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=856.0
PeteWaldo (16 hours ago)
Of course another thing the Mafia and Islam and all dangerous cults share is the death sentence for leaving.
np33123 (15 hours ago)
I told you 2008 to come to the forum you must send me check for $7000
np33123 (5 hours ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_koNUEUGuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvz0Cjjcv_k?
PeteWaldo (4 minutes ago)
For Muslim onlookers, since your Imams are this terrified of coming into the forum and having a real discussion, what have they been hiding from you about Islam and the false prophet Mohammed? Even this Imam np33123 mentions secrets (http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=871.msg3573#msg3573) of Islam. But many are exposed in the following pages.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=871.msg3576#msg3576
He has yet to defend Mohammed's character, against a single charge I have made, according to Islam's books. That's because Mohammed's character is indefensible. Please browse the prior pages to see how Mohammed is revealed through Islam's own books.
Yet folks like this Imam reject all of the prophets and witnesses as revealed through the 1600 year record of God to mankind, to continue in Mohammed's lies, because he knows that if he leaves Islam, he will be under a death sentence by Muslims, just like when fellow criminals leave the Mafia.
PeteWaldo (4 minutes ago)
If you are a Muslim in the bondage of Islam, what do you know about the bible or Christianity, other than what these same Imams - that are so obviously afraid of the truth - have taught you?
Please join us in the forum and learn about the love of the one true God.
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