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Title: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:10:36 PM
I don't know why, but the copy and pasted links didn't come out, throughout this thread.

Very illuminating post on "Allah"
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=939.msg3755#msg3755
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np33123  (2 weeks ago)

PETEWALDO WHY YOU ARE NOT HONEST ENOUGH TO SHOW THE LINKS OF THE VIDEOS WHICH I SENT YOU ? SHOW THE LINKS THERE INTO THE FORUM . ARE YOU AFRAID FROM THE TRUTH? ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_koNUEUGuI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvz0Cjjcv_k


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

WHAT YOU GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT? IS THAT WORK OF SATAN ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYa-6C3A6mk


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

WHAT RABBI SAY ABOUT ISLAM ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfByvw_jomo


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

ISLAM IN AMERICA SEE BELOW :

http://muslimwiki.com/mw/index.php/Native_Americans_and_Islam


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZSt3751J48&feature=related


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

EVERY INTELLIGENT MAN ON THIS PLANET EARTH MUST WATCH THIS EXPLANATION :

http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveringIslamOrg


np33123  (2 weeks ago)

PETEWALDO BE REALLY HONEST AND SEND ALL THIS VIDEO LINKS TO THE FORUM . DON'T BE COWARD SEND ME THE LINK OF THE FORUM TO SEE ALL THOSE VIDEO LINKS ARE THERE .
THANKS .
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:15:59 PM
 PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

You know I have always direct copy and pasted your comments WITH LINKS into the forum.
Unfortunately, this copy and paste session ended with my final appeal to Muslims in my last comment (though I haven't given up on your soul yet, my friend!).
So if you want these new links put into the forum you are going to have to put on your big-boy pants and post the links yourself. Here's the thread
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=871.45


PeteWaldo  (2 weeks ago)

And again, for our Muslim read-only participants you can learn more about your prophet, FROM ISLAM'S OWN BOOKS, in the successive pages of this comment section.
Why not come and at least browse the forum to learn a little more about the love of the one true God? You're welcome to join us in conversation.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=55.0
Or try a visit to
http://www.youtube.com/user/Muslims4Jesus
Or why not simply try reading a little from the Word of God?
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:16:44 PM
np33123 (2 weeks ago)

25. And it (the Qur'an) is not the word of the outcast Shaitan (Satan). ( CAN YOU SEE HERE HOW IT IS PREDICTED 1431 YEARS AGO HOW YOU WILL SAY THAT THE QUR'AN IS FROM SATAN ) . 26. Then where are you going ? ( OF COURSE YOU ARE GOING THERE WHERE YOU WANT TO SEND US THE MUSLIMS ) ...................


np33123  (2 weeks ago)

81. Surah At-Takwir (Wound around and lost its Light)

..............21. Obeyed (by the angels), trustworthy there (in the heavens). 22. And (O people) your companion (Muhammad ) is not a madman; 23. And indeed he (Muhammad ) saw him [Jibrael (Gabriel)] in the clear horizon (towards the east). 24. And he (Muhammad ) withholds not a knowledge of the unseen.

CONT...

   
np33123 (2 weeks ago)

PLEASE WATCH THAT VIDEO :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe0eNHBORvE&NR=1
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:17:06 PM
PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

No question about it np. ONE MUST CHOOSE.
The God of the Jews and Christians that his people have followed for 3500 years through 2 covenants detailed in His 1600 year record THROUGH ALL of the prophets and witnesses, or the STAND-ALONE 23 year 7th century record, of A SINGLE "prophet" from whom a single prophecy has never been fulfilled, who never performed a single miracle, who not a single person ever heard Gabriel or Allah give a revelation to.

A murdering, pillaging, plundering, child doing, stepson wife stealing, prisoner raping, thief, who curses God's people.
You present yourself as a man of God, but even your video links are of the world and the flesh, rather than the Spirit. The video complains of theft, yet you follow one of the biggest thieves in human history.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=608.0
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:17:31 PM
np33123 (2 weeks ago)

NO A SINGEL PROPHESY HAS BEEN FULFILLED ? WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU SHURE IN YOUR CLAIM ? WHERE DID YOU PUT MY PROOFS WHICH I SENT YOU LAST YEAR ABOUT THAT MATTER ? PETEWALDO SAYS MUHAMMAD WROTE THE QUR'AN , BUT WHEN HE SAW THE PROOF THAT IS NOT TRUE HE SAYS SATAN GAVE THE QUR'AN TO MUHAMMAD , BUT WHEN HE SAW WHAT QUR'AN SAYS 1431 YEARS AGO IT IS NOT THE WORD OF SATAN HE CHANGES HIS TRICKS .


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

PeteWaldo Said :
No question about it np. ONE MUST CHOOSE.
The God of the Jews and Christians that his people have followed for 3500 years through 2 covenants detailed in His 1600 year record THROUGH ALL of the prophets and witnesses, or the STAND-ALONE 23 year 7th century record, of A SINGLE "prophet" from whom a single prophecy has never been fulfilled, who never performed a single miracle, who not a single person ever heard Gabriel or Allah give a revelation to.
NP33123 Reply:
THE GOD OF THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS IS NOT THE SAME EITHER BECAUSE THE JEWS TILL TODAY DON'T ACCEPT TRINITY GOD ( FATHER , SON AND HOLY SPIRIT ) YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THAT IS ALWAYS YOU SAY THE JEWS ARE BLINDED , WELL THEY ARE , BUT WHY THE SAME GOD BLINDED THEM ?
CONT...........

   
np33123 (2 weeks ago)

THE JEWISH RABBI :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN0YbC0BJ8g&feature=related
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:17:53 PM
PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

"PETEWALDO SAYS MUHAMMAD WROTE THE QUR'AN"
Of course he recited it. He was too mentally challenged to actually write because he was illiterate. Do you really think God would give sex crazed Mohammed all the wives and concubines he wanted, but only for him? A special "revelation" to allow him to steal his stepson"s only wife?

"...YOU SAY THE JEWS ARE BLINDED , WELL THEY ARE , BUT WHY THE SAME GOD BLINDED THEM ?"
So that they couldn't sin against the Gospel. They can't see past the Old Testament. It isn't about what I SAY.
http://www.israelinbibleprophecy.com/spirit_of_slumber.htm
But you reject the God of the Christians and Jews to follow a murdering thief.
And you can quit pretending that the name "Allah" can be applied to the God of Christians. If you keep that up soon you will be branded a renegade infidel, and you know what that means. Off with your head.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=894.0


PeteWaldo  (2 weeks ago)

Why would anybody care what some misguided Jewish individual has to say? You like the words of men because they sooth you into following a murdering thief. But what does the Word of God say?

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:18:44 PM
 np33123 (2 weeks ago)

Did God reveal Himself to His chosen( WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF CHOSEN PEOPLE TO DISCRIMINATE THE OTHER NATIONS OR TO HELP THEM ) ? people over 3000 years ago detailing atonement for sin through the blood of animal sacrifice? ( THE SACRIFICE IS ONLY SYMBOLICALLY ! IN OUR MUSLIM BELIEF WHEN WE DO SACRIFICE EACH YEAR WE DON'T DO THAT TO CLEAN OUR SINS OR TO FEED ALLAH WITH BLOOD OR MEAT ! OUR SINS WE CLEAN WITH PRAYERS TO ALLAH WHO IS THE FORGIVER ! DO YOU THINK YHWH NEEDS TO BE FEED WITH BLOOD AND MEAT IS THAT YOUR OR THE JEWS BELIEF
Did God instruct the Jews to build a temple with an alter on which to accomplish this ( TO ACCOMPLISH ONLY THIS )?
OUR MOSQUES ARE FOR PRAYERS ONLY . PRAYERS TO YHWH ONLY ! YTOU PRETEND TO KNOW THE SCRIPTURES BUT YOU KNOW NOTHING !


np33123  (2 weeks ago)
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Is Jesus God in human form ?
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:19:08 PM
PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

np cries like a baby about not enough context, but is terrified of coming to the forum, where we can include as much context as we want. He loves to hide in YouTube bits and pieces, and the dark alley of personal messaging, because he knows full well that Mohammed's designer religion cannot stand the light of truth.

Regarding the 3500 year history of blood covering sin.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=900.0

Regarding Jesus being God
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=40.0

For those that aren't such cowards let's have a real discussion about the points np raised at the links provided.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:20:02 PM
np33123 (2 weeks ago)

I asked you " IS JESUS GOD IN HUMAN FORM " ? You did not answer that question . Of course you will answer Yes Jesus is God in human form . My next question is " HOW CAN SATAN TO TEMPT HIS GOD DO YOU THINK SATAN IS STUPID AND DOESN'T KNOW JESUS IS GOD " ?


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. DANIEL PREDICTED THAT NOT FOR PROPHET MUHAMMAD (P.U.H .) BUT FOR THE ANTICHRIST / DADJAL HE IS JEW NOT ARAB MY FRIEND . JEW FROM THE LINE OF DAN . HE WILL DO THAT . YOU WILL BE WITNESS !


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

PeteWaldo tell me please if you have Power what you gonna do with the Muslims allover the world , and especially with us those Muslims who are living in North America U.S. and Canada ?


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

In 325 C.E., the Nicene Council was held, where it was ordered that all original Gospels in Hebrew script should be destroyed. An Edict was issued that any one in possession of these Gospels will be put to death.
In 383 C.E., the Pope secured a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas and kept it in his private library.



np33123 (2 weeks ago)

WHERE WAS AT THAT TIME YOUR EVANGELISTIC DOCTRINE TO FIGHT THE POPE NOT TO DESTROY THE ORIGINAL GOSPELS IN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW SCRIPT ? BUT THE EVANGELISTIC DOCTRINE JUST APPEAR MAY BE 50 OR 100 YEARS AGO . IS THAT THE RIGHT CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE WHICH APPEAR 50 /100 YEARS AGO ?

CONT.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:21:03 PM
 PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

Discovery of the Gospel of Barnabas was in 1709 AD. It was written in Italian. The internal evidence proves it was a ridiculous Mohammedan concoction.
Please visit the link this time instead of just pasting more nonsense, np.
The book you are so desperate to believe existed prior to the middle ages is absolutely preposterous.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=465.0


PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

For Muslim onlookers, since your Imams are this terrified of coming into the forum and having a real discussion, what have they been hiding from you about Islam and the false prophet Mohammed? Even this Imam np33123 mentions secrets of Islam. But many are exposed in the following pages.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=871.msg3573#msg3573

He has yet to defend Mohammed's character, against a single charge I have made, according to Islam's books. That's because Mohammed's character is indefensible. Please browse the prior pages to see how Mohammed is revealed through Islam's own books.
Yet folks like this Imam reject all of the prophets and witnesses AS REVEALED THROUGH THE 1600 YEAR RECORD of God to mankind, to continue in Mohammed's lies, because he knows that if he leaves Islam - particularly as an Imam - he will be under a death sentence by Muslims, just like when fellow criminals leave the Mafia.


PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

Characterizations of Mohammed that np cannot refute are that he was a prisoner raping, child doing, stepson's wife stealing, concubine fornicating, covetous, murdering thief.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=871.msg3561#msg3561


PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

If you are a Muslim in the bondage of Islam, what do you know about the bible or Christianity, other than what these same Imams - that are so obviously afraid of the truth - have taught you?
Please join us in the forum and learn about the love of the one true God, as revealed through Jesus Christ.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=55.0

Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:21:23 PM
 np33123 (2 weeks ago)

Discovery of the Gospel of Barnabas was in 1709 AD. It was written in Italian. The internal evidence proves it was a ridiculous Mohammedan concoction.
Please visit the link this time instead of just pasting more nonsense, np.
The book you are so desperate to believe existed prior to the middle ages is absolutely preposterous.
WHAT ? ARE YOU DENYING THE HISTORICAL FACT THAT THIS GOSPEL OF BARNABAS WAS CANONICAL TILL 325 C.E. AND WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW AND THEN TRANSLATED IN TO OTHER LANGUAGES ? THERE IS 100% PROOF PETWWALDO YOU CAN NOT DENY IT !


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

WHY YOU DON'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION ? :

WHERE WAS AT THAT TIME YOUR EVANGELISTIC DOCTRINE TO FIGHT THE POPE NOT TO DESTROY THE ORIGINAL GOSPELS IN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW SCRIPT ? BUT THE EVANGELISTIC DOCTRINE JUST APPEAR MAY BE 50 OR 100 YEARS AGO . IS THAT THE RIGHT CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE WHICH APPEAR 50 /100 YEARS AGO ?


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

ALSO I DID NOT GET THE ANSWER OF THAT QUESTION TOO :

PeteWaldo tell me please if you have Power what you gonna do with the Muslims allover the world , and especially with us those Muslims who are living in North America U.S. and Canada ?


np33123  (2 weeks ago)

WHERE IS YOUR ANSWER ABOUT THAT ? :
I asked you " IS JESUS GOD IN HUMAN FORM " ? You did not answer that question . Of course you will answer Yes Jesus is God in human form . My next question is " HOW CAN SATAN TO TEMPT HIS GOD DO YOU THINK SATAN IS STUPID AND DOESN'T KNOW JESUS IS GOD " ?
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:22:01 PM
PeteWaldo  (2 weeks ago)

"WHY YOU DON'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION ? ............ NOT TO DESTROY THE ORIGINAL GOSPELS IN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW SCRIPT"

Because the premise of the question was ignorant of the facts. The original Gospels were written in Koine Greek which was the lingua franca of the day.

"PeteWaldo tell me please if you have Power what you gonna do with the Muslims allover the world , and especially with us those Muslims who are living in North America U.S. and Canada ?"

Same as other Christians do all over the world. Bring the Word of God to Muslim antichrists until they kill me.


PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

"I asked you " IS JESUS GOD IN HUMAN FORM " ? You did not answer that question "
You are a liar. I have answered it many times, and with a link to a wealth of information on the subject.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=40.0

What does the name "Immanuel" mean in Hebrew, as the prophet Isaiah used many hundreds of years before Jesus was revealed to us? It is translated as "God" 213 times, in the KJV.

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Fulfilled in Jesus Christ
Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:22:21 PM
np33123 (2 weeks ago)

YOU DIDN'T ANSWER HOW SATAN CAN TEMPTS HIS GOD ?


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

YOU ARE REALLY IGNORANT THE GOSPELS WERE TRANSLATED IN TO GREEK AND THEN TO THE OTHER LANGUAGES . THE ORIGINALS WERE IN HEBREW .


np33123  (2 weeks ago)

ALLAH THE MOON GOD ?
The word for "God" to the Arabs, ever since the time of Abraham (peace be upon him) has been "Allah" and He is to them, the Lord of the Ka'bah (the black box in the center of the Holy Sanctuary in Makkah). He was the unseen God whom they would call upon when in distress. Yes, they worshiped the true God but their worship was not purely for Him. They also worshiped other gods thinking that they would act as intermediaries between them and the true God Allah =YHWH = EL .
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:22:40 PM
PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

Don't be so foolish. Satan didn't tempt Jesus and nowhere does scripture indicate that Jesus was tempted. Satan only tried to temp Jesus. He offered Jesus all the kingdoms of this world, and the worldly things that are in them, because they have been Satan's legal possession ever since Adam's fall.
The same kingdoms that Islam has lusted after for 1400 years, because Mohammed's people are Satan's followers. That's why Mohammed's STAND-ALONE religion is all about the flesh rather than the Spirit. Even Mohammed's heaven is a chicken and wine serving bordello in the sky.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEfKpgiYgHY

Just like Mohammedan heathen prayer chanted while bowing to a black rock on Mecca.
Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:22:57 PM
np33123 (2 weeks ago)

What does the name "Immanuel" mean in Hebrew, as the prophet Isaiah used many hundreds of years before Jesus was revealed to us? It is translated as "God" 213 times, in the KJV.
TOTALLY WRONG TRANSLATION EMMANUEL MEANS GOD WITH US ( THAT MEANS ALLAH SENT JESUS CHRIST AND HE ALLAH IS WITH HIM AND WITH ALL THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE RIGHT PATH ) !


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

Don't be so foolish. Satan didn't tempt Jesus and nowhere does scripture indicate that Jesus was tempted. Satan only tried to temp Jesus. ................. HOW SATAN CAN EVEN TRY TO TEMPT HIS GOD ??????????
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:23:38 PM
PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

"TOTALLY WRONG TRANSLATION EMMANUEL MEANS GOD WITH US ( THAT MEANS ALLAH SENT JESUS CHRIST? AND HE ALLAH IS WITH HIM AND WITH ALL THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE RIGHT PATH ) !"

It is you that foolishly fails to understand, but then you can't expect to understand the things of the spirit of God, as a natural man that spends his life fighting against God as revealed through ALL of his prophets and witnesses.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

You seem to keep forgetting that you are and antichrist, my friend.

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.


PeteWaldo  (2 weeks ago)

The Gospel of John
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm


PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

"HOW SATAN CAN EVEN TRY TO TEMPT HIS GOD "
It should have provided a lesson to you in how Satan tries to tempt everybody. What did Satan call himself in your Quran, the "greatest of schemers" (you know him as allah)?

   
PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

Based on the content of our conversation it should be obvious to Muslims why even your own imams, like np33123, are terrified of coming into the forum where the truth of Jesus Christ reigns.
Are you afraid like np too?? Why not join us?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:23:58 PM
np33123 (2 weeks ago)

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
AND THE SAME WORD WAS TEMPTED BY SATAN RIGHT ? JUST TO TRY !


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

TELL THAT TO THE JEWS NOT TO US THE MUSLIMS !


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

"HOW SATAN CAN EVEN TRY TO TEMPT HIS GOD "
It should have provided a lesson to you in how Satan tries to tempt everybody. What did Satan call himself in your Quran, the "greatest of schemers" (you know him as allah)?

YES SATAN CAN TEMPT ME AND YOU BUT NOT THE GOD !


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

Based on the content of our conversation it should be obvious to Muslims why even your own imams, like np33123, are terrified of coming into the forum where the truth of Jesus Christ reigns.
Are you afraid like np too?? Why not join us?
AFRAID FROM WHAT ? FROM THE CHRISTIAN DELUSION ? TO JOIN YOU , TO WASTE MY TIME THERE WITH ANOTHER LIARS LIKE YOU ?


np33123 (2 weeks ago)

"PeteWaldo tell me please if you have Power? what you gonna do with the Muslims allover the world , and especially with us those Muslims who are living in North America U.S. and Canada ?"

Same as other Christians do all over the world.( THEY ARE KILLING THE MUSLIMS AND WANT TO DEMOLISH ISLAM FROM WITHIN ) Bring the Word of God to Muslim antichrists until they kill me. (BY THAT YOU MEAN UNTIL WE CHRISTIANS KILL ALL OF THE MUSLIMS ) .
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:24:17 PM
PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

"HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT? THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM....

TELL THAT TO THE JEWS NOT TO US THE MUSLIMS ! "

I see. So then you are saying Muslims hold the doctrine of Christ?

2John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine? of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath BOTH the Father AND THE SON.

Surely even your brethren can see the difficulty with what you are suggesting, np.?
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:24:37 PM
np33123 (2 weeks ago)

THERE IS NOT ANY DIFFICULTIES ! MAY BE IN YOUR EYES COULD BE , BUT IN REALITY WE ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH . YOU ARE WRONG !
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:25:02 PM
PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)

Thank you for at least quoting me before you replied in a entirely disconnected fashion to that which you quoted.
Additionally - "...you know that I am also a politician..."
I didn't know that, but at least now it all makes sense. Perhaps better you spend more time on political channel comment sections, rather than taking up space on this one, where the imam and I are discussing the differences between Islam and Christianity.


PeteWaldo (1 week ago)

"THERE IS NOT ANY DIFFICULTIES ! MAY BE IN YOUR EYES COULD BE , BUT IN REALITY WE ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH . YOU ARE WRONG !"

You mean according to the false prophet Mohammed you are on his right path.
According to God you are NOT on His right path. You reject that Jesus is the Son of God so you are an antichrist

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

You reject the prophets and witnesses of God AS REVEALED THROUGH His 1600 year record, to follow Mohammed's STAND-ALONE, 23 year, 7th century record.

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.


PeteWaldo (1 week ago)

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, EVEN DENYING THE LORD THAT BOUGHT THEM, AND BRING UPON THEMSELVES SWIFT DESTRUCTION.

1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.

Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:25:21 PM
 np33123 (1 week ago)

6) Why Jesus doesn't destroyed Satan at that time when He was the first time why He leaved that for Thousand of years ? What He waited for ?
7) Who actually in reality is Satan ?
Give me the logical explanation !


np33123 (1 week ago)

3) Did God created Stan perfect according to your belief he was a great Angel then how can that perfect being to commit sin and to become a fallen Angel ?
4) Again i am asking you how can Satan to tempt or to try to tempt his God Jesus Christ doesn't Satan see Jesus in the Heaven and to know that He is his creator before he became a fallen Angel ?
5) What kind of God's plan is that to create non perfect beings and then to punish them when they commit the sin believing in Satan's lies and of the end He decide to save them by sending his the only one begotten son as Savior ?
CONT.


np33123 (1 week ago)

.If you claim to know everything , then give me the right answer of those questions :
1) Why God created Humans with free will doesn't He know that free will gonna put them in trouble ? If He knew of course He must know that otherwise what kind of God is that ? Then why He did it ?
2) If you claim that the humans were created perfect then how can perfect beings to be deluded by Satan and they to believe in his lies to eat from that tree ?
CONT.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:25:38 PM
 PeteWaldo  (1 week ago)

You've got far more important questions to ask, my friend. Like asking of yourself why it is that you reject and blaspheme God, as revealed through ALL of the prophets and witnesses of His record, to follow the STAND-ALONE 23 year record of A SINGLE, 7th century, imperialistic, pillaging plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife stealing, prisoner raping, sex slave pimping, concubine fornicating, thief.

Link to summary of Mohammed's black heart, with supporting links provided, as revealed through your own books.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=336.msg3694#msg3694
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:25:53 PM
np33123 (5 days ago)

Also tell me how the Christian Arabs are calling Jesus Christ in Arabic , do they use the English word God or the Word ALLAH ? For us YHWH and ALLAH is the same being ,but for you the INFIDELS ( KAFIRS ) is not !
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
PeteWaldo (5 days ago)

Most everywhere we find murder, mayhem and misery around the world, we find Islam as the perpetrator. Two million innocents killed in the Sudan alone.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
watch?v=6fbXvq_ZIbw
PeteWaldo
   
PeteWaldo (5 days ago)

Christians are now being banned from using the name "Allah". Violence and death is perpetrated against those who do, by Satan's Muslim minions, for using the name of Mohammed's god. The rest of your contemporaries know you follow Mohammed's own god, why don't you?
The God of the Jews and Christians name is Yahweh.
Link to an article on the ban
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=894.0
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:26:40 PM
np33123 (4 days ago)

Are you saying the Christianity did not change for 2010 years and it is the same from the beginning till today ?
You must know the real fact those who became at that time till now Christians were tricked to accept Christ like that because it was easy for them to their Pagan mind to believe Christ is God and Savior of the World .
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:26:56 PM
PeteWaldo (4 days ago)

Are you saying that Christianity became the EXACT OPPOSITE of what it had been? That the hundreds of verses that discuss the relationship between Jesus and His Father weren't there? That the new covenant that was prophesied in the old covenant never came? That the prophesied crucifixion of Jesus Christ never happened and that the Gospel somehow through ALL of the prophets and witnesses, became THE OPPOSITE?
That somehow ALL the prophets of God's 1600 year record were wrong, but that A SINGLE STAND-ALONE murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, slave pimping, thief that came along hundreds of years after the Word of God was closed, was right, making Mohammed himself a liar for telling Christians and Jews to follow our books?
Surely you can see how foolish such a view would be. No, my friend, Christianity never changed. Come to the forum and let me show you around.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php


PeteWaldo (4 days ago)

Haven't you ever read the Gospel, my friend? If you have, surely you have found that every book is the story of Jesus' ministry, and His own prophesying of His crucifixion. Do you think that after detailing His own demise in such detail, that He turned around and cheated? That He turned around and substituted someone in his place like Mohammed would have?
That Jesus made everything He had prophesied about Himself a lie? That He then didn't die as the perfect sacrifice through which we all might have eternal life, instead of dying to sin?
Why don't you try just reading one book of the Gospel? What are you afraid of?
Here is a link to one of the Gospel books.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:27:16 PM
np33123 (3 days ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfJOnbDHckg?


np33123 (2 days ago)

PETEWALDO : YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND MY POINT OF VIEW AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE HOW WEAK IS YOUR EXPLANATION OF THE MATTER . And i will finish our debate with that Surah from our Holy Qur'an?
1. Say (O Muhammad ( to these Mushrikun and Kafirun): "O Al-Kafirun (disbelievers in Allah, in His Oneness, in His Angels, in His Books, in His Messengers, in the Day of Resurrection, and in Al-Qadar, etc.)!
2.? "I worship not that which you worship,
3. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.
4. "And I shall not worship that which you are worshiping.
5. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.
6. "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."


np33123 (2 days ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXfoH4CHETI?
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:27:35 PM
 PeteWaldo (2 days ago)

"PETEWALDO : YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND MY POINT OF VIEW AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE HOW WEAK IS YOUR EXPLANATION OF THE MATTER ."

Whose position and explanation is weak?
I who follow the 1600 year record of God, through ALL of the prophets and witnesses, that God's people have followed through two covenants, for 3500 years. Or you who must reject ALL of those prophets as they are revealed in the Word of God, to follow Mohammed's historically impossible, 23 year, 7th century record.
I follow the perfect and sin free Jesus Christ, who even you agree lives today. You follow A SINGLE, 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife stealing, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic conquering, thief, whose corpse still lies rotting in its shallow grave. A conspicuously black hearted man that was THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=336.0


PeteWaldo (2 days ago)

"2. "I worship not that which you worship,
3. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.
4. "And I shall not worship that which you are worshiping.
5. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.
6. "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)." (what you really mean is Mohammedanism - because Judaism and Christianity are both monotheistic religions)

Mark 12:29 ... The Lord our God is one Lord: ... 32 ... for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

At least you fully understand that Muslims DO NOT worship the God of the Jews and Christians, and that your Mohammed/"Allah" worship is a completely unique STAND-ALONE 7th century religion, all considered, rendering you without excuse at judgment.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:


PeteWaldo  (2 days ago)

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
np33123 (18 hours ago)

Does that make the record to be fake or invalid ? The covenants for 3500 years O.T./N.T.????? should be different because YHWH/ALLAH changed HIS mind ? Where are the corpses of Moses , Abraham ( ABRAHAM WAS NOT A JEW NOR ARAB THE ARABS FIRST AND THEN THE JEWS ARE HIS DESCENDANTS ) and all other Jewish prophets ? ARE THEIR CORPSES NOT UNDER GROUND UNTIL TODAY ? You pretend to know the Bible but it seems you accept the things from the Bible which you like and the things which you don't like you are closing your eyes for the truth which is said there in the same Bible especially the Jewish /Hebrew Bible it is predicted the coming of prophet from the Arabs and to be the last prophet MUHAMMAD am i lying ?


np33123 (18 hours ago)

Yes PeteWaldo , you are following 1600 year record , and we follow the same record and the conclusion of that record which is the Qur'an . It seems only you the Christians who's doctrines are so different to each other and so ridiculous THAT SHOWS THERE IS NOT ANY GUIDANCE BY THE HOLY SPIRIT OTHERWISE WILL BE NOT LIKE THAT ,are following that record very wrongly because not only we the Muslims are not agree with that what you claim , but the Jews too? , they are not following that what you believe 99% of them ! CONT..........


np33123 (18 hours ago)

I really apologize if i shake the base of your FAKE and WEAK belief ! I don't know why you avoid the answer of that question ? :
WHY THE CHRISTIANITY WHICH IS UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT UNITED AND HAS SO DIFFERENT AND RIDICULOUS DOCTRINES WHICH ARE ALLOVER THE WORLD ? ORTHODOX , CATHOLIC, PROTESTANT, JEHOWA WITNESSES, EVANGELISTS, CHRISTIANS OF THE 50TH DAY , CHURCH OF THE CHRIST , ETC. HOW CAN CHRISTIANS WHO ARE GUIDED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT TO BE IN DARKNESS AND SO IGNORANT LIKE THAT ? WHERE IS THE FIRST PURE CHRISTIANITY WHICH JESUS CHRIST SHOULD LEAVED AT HIS TIME SHOW IT TO ME ? IS THAT YOUR DOCTRINE WHICH JUST APPEARED 200 YEARS A GO ? OR YOU GONNA SAY WE ALL BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS GOD AND OUR SAVIOR . THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE OF THAT BELIEF ALL OF YOU ARE UNDER THE FALSEHOOD !
ALLAHU AKBAR !
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2010, 12:28:34 PM
Jan 27, 2010

PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)

"And i will finish our debate with that Surah....."
But you didn't finish there, did you. You couldn't resist returning, once again, to flush away truth for more of your blather, because the truth strikes fear into your heart.

Pro 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, [so] a fool returneth to his folly.

Being in sheer terror of truth is also why you are terrified of joining me in the forum, and you know it. But all the words in the world won't save you, from an eternity filled with misery and torment - without rest, if you don't repent but instead continue to reject the love of God, to follow a pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife stealing, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic conquering, thief. You've been shown the truth and are now without excuse. You could die this very day my friend.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=55.0


PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)

"Does that make the record to be fake or invalid?"
Mohammed's record is preposterously invalid because he WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel, and recited juvenile and false understandings of the old covenant, that can't even stand up to history. He had Abraham and Nimrod as contemporaries with they didn't even live within 700 years of each other. Come explore Mohammed's foolishness with me here
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=41.0

"...should be different because YHWH/ALLAH changed HIS mind?"
It wasn't God changing His mind over 1600 years but rather mankind that changed. God accommodated with a new covenant, that you reject. Nor do you follow the old covenant law. You don't even observe the Sabbath!
Instead you follow one of the most evil and reprobate men in human history, as revealed by your own books.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=935.0


PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)

"Where are the corpses of Moses, Abraham...".
The question you should be asking is where is the body of Jesus Christ, the only man ever conceived by a virgin by the will of God, God revealed in the flesh, the Prince of Peace, the Savior of the world.
Even you believe He lives today, yet you follow a murderous, prisoner raping, child doing, 7th century reprobate thief, rather than be saved by Jesus' shed blood.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=54.0


PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)

"WHY THE CHRISTIANITY WHICH IS UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT UNITED AND HAS SO DIFFERENT"

What you mean to ask is why do men behave like men. Why would men follow tradition, that is contrary to the Word of God, just like the Pharisees did?

Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=80.0
But what sect of Christianity doesn't believe that we are saved from sin by the shed blood of Jesus Christ? None. True some sects like the Jehovah's Witness that you mentioned, follow false prophets, just like you.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=336.0


PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)

"WHERE IS THE FIRST PURE CHRISTIANITY WHICH JESUS CHRIST SHOULD LEAVED AT HIS TIME SHOW IT TO ME?"

I have shown it to you over and over. You simply refuse to read it. Christianity doesn't reside in the doctrines of men, but rather in the Word of God. Please just read just one of the Gospels if you truly want to understand where to find Christianity. Some folks with hearts even harder than yours, have been pierced, even by reading just a few words.
http://www.islamandthetruth.co­­­m/gospel_of_john.htm

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


PeteWaldo (3 hours ago)

"....should be different because YHWH/ALLAH changed HIS mind ?"

A Mohammedan asking a question like this, when a whopping 71 out of only 114 suras in the Quran are subject to abrogation, over just a brief 23 year record? Is this some sort of joke? Mohammed's direct contradictions don't reflect 1600 years of progressive revelation as mankind changed, but rather occurring over the period of just 23 years, from the same man, obviously reflect the changing whims of the author. Even Mohammed knew what a mess he made of it.

2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything?

Absolutely preposterous!
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0


PeteWaldo (3 hours ago)

"OR YOU GONNA SAY WE ALL BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS GOD AND OUR SAVIOR . THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE OF THAT BELIEF ALL OF YOU ARE UNDER THE FALSEHOOD !"

But that is the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. You reject that Gospel, and ALL of the prophets and witnesses as revealed through the 1600 year record of God to mankind, and you reject the shed blood that would save you, even as you break all the laws of the old covenant, to follow A SINGLE, 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife stealing, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic conquering, thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament."
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=336.0

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.


PeteWaldo (3 hours ago)

For Muslim onlookers, since your Imams are this terrified of coming into the forum, and having a real discussion, what have they been hiding from you about Islam and the false prophet Mohammed?

np33123 has yet to defend Mohammed's character, against a single charge I have made, according to Islam's books. That's because Mohammed's character is indefensible.
Yet folks like this Imam reject all of the prophets and witnesses AS REVEALED THROUGH THE 1600 YEAR RECORD of God to mankind, to continue in Mohammed's lies, because he knows that if he leaves Islam - particularly as an Imam - he will be under a death sentence by Muslims, just like when fellow criminals leave the Mafia.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=608.0
Perhaps you don't share np's fear. If not, please come join us in the forum where we have plenty of space, and let's talk truth!
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 06:37:50 AM
 np33123  (1 day ago)

PETEWALDO REJECTS THE TRUTH WHICH IS WRITTEN IN THE JEWS/HEBREWS HOLY BOOKS AND HE SAID THIS RABBI ON THE VIDEO IS DELUDED TOO . PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN0YbC0BJ8g
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 06:38:26 AM
 ayamen1  (16 hours ago)

ok brain washed , may Allah guide you to islam and you will convert to islam and you will love islam and become a muslim preacher.
amen
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 06:38:54 AM
 np33123  (15 hours ago)

PeteWaldo SAID :
Do you actually believe Mohammed flew through the sky at night on a horse or have you simply been spending too much time at Disneyland?
MY REPLY :
I AM ASKING YOU THE SAME QUESTION DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST FLEW THROUGH THE SKY TO SEE HIS FATHER AND NOW HE IS THERE ON HIS FATHER RIGHT SIDE ?
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 06:41:09 AM
PeteWaldo (13 hours ago)

ayamen1, surely you can see how peculiar it is to suggest that the 1600 year record of God to mankind, through all of the prophets and witnesses in His Word, that God's people have followed through two covenants, for 3500 years, would be nullified hundreds of years after that record closed, through the EXACT OPPOSITE in the STAND-ALONE 23 year record of recitations of A SINGLE, 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife stealing, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic conquering, thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=336.0


PeteWaldo  (13 hours ago)

np33123, the reason I know Jesus ascended into heaven is because He did it in front of many witnesses.
So who witnessed your phony prophet Mohammed's night flight on a horse?
The same very same person who witnessed Gabriel and Allah's voice giving Mohammed his Satanic "revelations".
NOBODY
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 06:42:28 AM
np33123 (13 hours ago)

So who witnessed your phony prophet Mohammed's night flight on a horse?
The same very same person who witnessed Gabriel and Allah's voice giving Mohammed his Satanic "revelations".
NOBODY
IF HE DID NOT DO THAT NIGHT OF MIRADJ ( WHICH WAS A REAL MIRACLE ) THEN TELL ME HOW HE GAVE ALL DETAILS TO THE JEWS WHO ASKED HIM HOW THE TEMPLE OF KING SOLOMON LOOKS LIKE ? WHO GAVE TO PROPHET MUHAMMAD THAT INFORMATION AND WHEN HE START TO EXPLAINS TO THE JEWS HE DID EXPLAIN IT LIKE HE IS SEEING THE THINGS ON TV RIGHT NOW ?  


ayamen1 (12 hours ago)

God clean your heart and open your eyes and mind . You don't have the original of your bible . you have only copies of copies made many centuries later . and no single one is like any other . these maniscripts in greek and latin . Why you don't have the original bible in aramic the language of jesus peace be up on him .
Please think about it and make prayer to God to guide you .


np33123 (12 hours ago)

We all can see what EVIL SATANIC SADISTIC heart PeteWaldo has and how he hates the Muslims and how he talks all the time against Islam . It is because he is politician who is using the Gospels to do his Zionistic Satanic PLOT against Humanity , and that shows he is not with the Christ and not guided by the Holy Spirit of YHWH in anyway ! Jesus Christ has NOTHING to DO with such a people like PeteWaldo !
Jesus Christ is 100% MUSLIM by NATURE !


np33123  (12 hours ago)

http://www.youtube.com/user/ayamen1#p/a/f/2/iqcf-g0ZEnY?
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 06:44:45 AM
PeteWaldo (12 hours ago)

"You don't have the original of your bible ."
Then I guess you must think Mohammed to have been a fool when IN THE 7TH CENTURY he declared

Sura 4:136 O ye who believe! BELIEVE IN Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and THE SCRIPTURE WHICH HE SENT TO THOSE BEFORE (HIM). ANY WHO DENIETH Allah, His angels, HIS BOOKS, HIS MESSENGERS, and the Day of Judgment, HATH GONE FAR, FAR ASTRAY.


np33123 is too much of a coward to join me in the forum where we have lots of space. How about you? Do you like this limited YouTube cowards venue too? Afraid to explore things in depth?
brotherpete. com/index. php


PeteWaldo (12 hours ago)

"PeteWaldo has and how he hates the Muslims...."
But np, surely by now you know that I love Muslims. That's why I do what I can to help you overcome the 7th century reprobate Mohammed. If I hated Muslims, rather than spending so much of my time helping you, I would simply let you continue your march to perdition, right behind your false prophet Mohammed.


PeteWaldo (12 hours ago)

"Jesus Christ is 100% MUSLIM by NATURE ! "

Surely you aren't still that ignorant after all this time, np!

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them?

Your murderous, prisoner raping, child doing, thief was the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ.


PeteWaldo  (12 hours ago)

ayamen1 is nothing more than a censoring Mohammedan coward, just like your false prophet Mohammed. Feeling at perfect liberty to blaspheme God on this channel, but censoring the truth that I post on his channel.
The same reason the truth is banned in Muslim countries, and those that come to Jesus Christ are killed.
You follow pure evil because your hearts and minds are broken by the spirit of antichrist.
Truth is inverted for a lie, and right is exchanged for wrong, and because you are filled with the spirit of antichrist you don't even notice.

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:


PeteWaldo (12 hours ago)

Otherwise you would have to make the case that the bible was changed AFTER the 7th century and after it had been copied tens of thousands of times into every popular language known to man. See the foolishness of your preposterous claim? And why? All to follow a murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, concubine fornicating, thief, which you cannot deny, because Mohammed is revealed that way through your own books.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 06:48:52 AM
 np33123 (4 hours ago)

YHWH means ( YUD-HEH-WAHW-HEH IS THE ENGLISH TRANSLITERATION FOR HOW THE HEBREW LETTERS , REPRESENTED BY THE YHWH , ARE NAMED ITS TRUE PRONUNCIATION IS UNKNOWN. ) do you think is that a name JEWS NEVER PRONOUNCE THE WORD , INSTEAD SAYING AH-DOH-NYE WHICH MEANS " MY LORD "
We could understand that as a TITLE ! YHWH in Hebrew has 72 names TITLES
In Islam we have 99 names TITLES of YHWH /ALLAH /ADONAY/ELOHIM/SABAOTH/HASHEM /AHGLAH/EH-HEH-YEH/THE TETRAGRAMMATON.THOSE ARE ALL THE NAMES OF HIM THE ALMIGHTY !
Jesus Christ is English Translation of the original Hebrew name which is YEHAHSHUAH MESHIH that is the right pronunciation of his name ! Learn first then come to teach me !
EH-HEH-YEH MEANS " I AM " OR " I SHALL BE "
EH-HEH-YEH AH SHARE EH-HEH-YEH MEANING " I AM THAT I AM " OR " I SHALL BE THAT I SHALL BE "
* EMMANUEL * MEANS " HESHEM/GOD/ALLAH WITH US "


np33123  (3 hours ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GatgJKiddIw??
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 06:51:01 AM
PeteWaldo (24 minutes ago)

"PeteWaldo you should study what the word MUSLIM means !"

It's irrelevant what it means. You are a Mohammedan. You reject ALL of the prophets and witnesses AS REVEALED through the 1600 year record of God to mankind, to follow A SINGLE 7th century murderous, sex crazed, prisoner raping, thief, reprobate. You follow Mohammed, as directly opposed to God. The EXACT OPPOSITE.
watch?v=J9Rdej28pP4


PeteWaldo (21 minutes ago)

"I don't accept in my channel anybody insult the prophet Muhamed ."

Yet you don't hesitate to blaspheme against the Word of God on my channel. Even your phony prophet wasn't illiterate and ignorant enough to say the Word of God was corrupted.
And you are a coward for censorship and for not wanting to go to a forum where we can have a real discussion, rather than this limited character YouTube venue so beloved by liars and Mohammedan cowards.
brotherpete. com/index. php


PeteWaldo (4 seconds ago)

So ayamen1, np has never been able to answer this simple question so maybe you can. Why do you think God would nullify His 1600 year record, to reveal Himself through an unrepentant 7th century THIEF, who even cut himself in for 1/5 of all the property stolen from others, just like a Mafia Don?
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=608.0

Exd 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
1Cr 6:10 Nor thieves ..... shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Does that say "except for Mohammed and his fellow reprobate thieves"?
Is there something ambiguous there?


PeteWaldo  (13 minutes ago)

Why would God reveal Himself through a bunch of 7th century prisoner rapists?

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allahs? Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"


PeteWaldo  (3 seconds ago)

Why would God reveal Himself through a 7th century sex slave pimp?

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution WHEN they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

But WHEN they dont want to preserve their chastity then pimp em out and make some gain!
And even if you force them into prostitution Allah will forgive anyway!
Pretty accommodating god for a bunch of 7th century murdering, rapist thieves!
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 12:56:37 PM
 BeAwareToAvoid (3 hours ago)

It is only what you believe that's the message of Islam is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what christ has come up with. Well, in fact Islam is nothing but a continuation of Jesus and all prophets' message. A corruption is your religion through history is what made that belief inside you, sorry to say this but it is a fact.

And let me ask you the other way. Why would a man who? is arab and live in arabian peninsula glorify Jesus, and the mother of Jesus (the best woman over all nations) and to mention them in a book that contains no mention of his own mother, tribe or personal achievments.

See, i believe that our prophet call for the same thing Jesus christ called for. They are both from God, but when you make Jesus as God beside the Only One True God,,, here lies the problem and we become two different religions. Finally, i would like you to respect our prophet when you talk about him,, choose better words at least for what good he said about the christ and his virgin mother.


BeAwareToAvoid  (3 hours ago)

And let me ask you another question, why would God who started all these revelations through men(prophets and messengers) why would he go out of his way and become a man to die for our sins. Is that even logical to you?. I don't? think so, and what happend in the end, he really dies, God dies ?! do you really grasp this idea of God dying ?
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 12:58:45 PM
PeteWaldo (40 minutes ago)

"It is only what you believe that's the message of Islam is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what christ has come up with."

Sorry my friend, but it's about the way God revealed Himself to us, and that isn't through a murderous, prisoner raping, thief. Antichrist isn't about what we wish it were, or what a Greek sophist styled entertainer like Deedat lies about.

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER...

Who did God make a liar?
1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.
Come join us if you believe you can defend Mohammedanism.
brotherpete. com/index. php


PeteWaldo (8 minutes ago)

"Why would a man who is arab and live in arabian peninsula glorify Jesus, and the mother of Jesus..."

First of all Mary worship is Roman Church doctrinal heresy.
Secondly, Satan deceived you into believing Mohammed? glorified Jesus, even as he taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel.

Mat 26:28 For this is MY BLOOD of the new testament, which is SHED FOR MANY for the remission of sins.

Do these read like the words of "just another prophet"?
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH.
brotherpete. com/index. php?board=40.0

   
PeteWaldo (1 minute ago)

"....why would he go out of his way and become a man to die for our sins. Is? that even logical to you?"

As the final solution for atonement of sin. For 3500 years atonement for sin has been through blood.
Is it "logical" to you that Jews would build a temple by God's instructions, with the focus being an alter where animals were sacrificed, also by specific instructions, as sin offerings? It isn't logical to me, yet that's the way God revealed Himself to us. Period.
Please copy and paste this link and remove the spaces from after the dots.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=54.0

Without shed blood covering your sins, you will die in them, my friend. Why not ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart and save you?
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 01:24:11 PM
 ayamen1 (28 minutes ago)

You beleive that Jesus was cruscified and died on the cross
according to your bible
det? 21:23
this means jesus is cursed by God ?


ayamen1  (26 minutes ago)

Anyone who is hung on a tree is under Gods? curse, says Deuteronomy 21:23.
ayamen1
   
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 01:25:03 PM
PeteWaldo (22 minutes ago)

BeAwareToAvoid, you seem like a reasonable man. Why don't you join me in the forum where we? have more space and I can do a better job of answering your questions? We can post live links and such too. If you want I can restrict the conversation to being between just you and I. Click the link in the upper left for Islam-Christian Forum, or copy and paste this and remove the spaces from after the dots
brotherpete. com/index. php

   
PeteWaldo (14 minutes ago)

"Anyone who is hung on? a tree is under Gods curse, says Deuteronomy 21:23."

Where did you come up with that nonsense from? Some foolishness like Deedat? Didn't you ever even read the verse immediately before the one you are discussing, or do you share Mohammed's literary skills?

Deu 21:22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:

That is? about a man that committed a sin egregious enough to deserve death.
Jesus Christ is absolutely free of sin. He was falsely accused of blasphemy for saying He was the Messiah, the Son of God, and God Himself. The Jews were going to stone Him for it.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on January 29, 2010, 01:25:54 PM
ayamen1 (8 minutes ago)

and when he called a gentile woman a swine (peg ) this is not a sin

   
ayamen1 (6 minutes ago)

it is very clear in your bible , who hanged on? the tree cursed by God .
and how God dies on the cross
this is not God
and why god did not protect his only son
this is not powerful God
is this because of your sin
this is not fair
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:34:10 PM
 PeteWaldo  (4 days ago)

So you answer to your ridiculous nonsense with even more lies and foolishness? Why don't you try reading the bible some time? Try starting with the Gospel.
islamandthetruth. com/gospel_of_john. htm

It isn't me that made you a liar, my friend. God Himself did

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.
brotherpete. com/index. php?board=42.0
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:35:26 PM
ayamen1 (4 days ago)

Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Matthew10:21
it is very intersting . that is why you want muslim to be .
thanks God we are much beter than that? .


ayamen1 (3 days ago)

Let's read the holy bible
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34-36 that what you want me to read


ayamen1 (3 days ago)

Jesus advises his followers to mutilate themselves by cutting off their hands and plucking out their eyes. He says it's better to be "maimed" than to suffer "everlasting fire." mathew 18:8-9
i can not do that


ayamen1  (3 days ago)

or sex in the bible or kill , voilence , contradictions , mistakes and science or prophets who do sins etc
I raed you corrupted bible . the old testment and the new testment .
it is shocking , it has to be banned from the market becaues it is filled of lies about god almighty and jesus christ and the prophets of god .


ayamen1  (3 days ago)

you are now near 60 and you will die and you will find the truth of God
at that time you will regret all these momments and you wish to return to do good deeds and beleive in the prophet Muhamed and follow his message .
And you will remeber these words
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:37:55 PM
np33123 (3 days ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X8dhrzQCHY


np33123 (3 days ago)

JESUS DIED FOR YOUR SINS YOU CAN SIN ,DON'T WORRY ABOUT HOW TO DO GOOD DEEDS AND THINGS , DO WHAT EVER YOU WISH AND YOU ARE SAVED !? JESUS , JESUS HE DIED FOR YOU , HE IS YOUR GOD AND CLEANER OF YOUR SINS DON'T WORRY . GO KILL THE MUSLIMS ALLOVER THE WORLD JESUS IS YOUR SAVIOR DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT THERE IS NO PROBLEM FOR YOU . YOU ARE CHRISTIANS SAVED PEOPLE THE HEAVEN IS YOURS THE EARTH IS YOURS EVEN YOU ARE HIGH THEN THE JEWS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE JESUS DEAD ! BUT THEY ARE SAVED TOO BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWS CHOSEN PEOPLE .


np33123 (3 days ago)

Forum ? O.K.! Why you are hiding your self PeteWaldo lets we meet on real World to debate like Sheikh Ahmad Deedat who is now in high position in the heaven with our HOLY and GREAT and REAL THE LAST PROPHET MUHAMMAD ( SAWS ) Are you afraid from something ? You should not because Jesus is your savior . You are saved from everything here and hereafter . Right ? Then lets we meet face to face how Dr. Anis Sharrosh meet Ahmad Deedat . Are you ready ?


np33123 (3 days ago)

Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow)
...................62.? Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve .
63. And (O Children of Israel, remember) when We took your covenant and We raised above you the Mount (saying): "Hold fast to that which We have given you, and remember that which is therein so that you may become Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V.2:2)..............................


np33123 (3 days ago)

( HERE WE CAN SEE VERY CLEAR ALLAH DID SAY THAT IS HIS EVERLASTING COVENANT HE DID NOT CHANGE HIS MIND AND NEVER COMMAND THE CHRISTIANS NOT TO DO CIRCUMCISION PROPHET MUHAMMAD WAS BORN MIRACULOUSLY CIRCUMCISED ) 17:14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant. ( WHY YOU CHRISTIANS WERE TOLD BY POUL NOT TO DO CIRCUMCISION ? ) BECAUSE IN JESUS CHRIST CIRCUMCISION IS NOT IN EFFECT ANY MORE ? WHAT HAPPENED? WITH THE EVERLASTING COVENANT WHICH ALLAH COMMANDED ?


np33123 (3 days ago)

The First Book of Moses, called Genesis :
17:9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. 17:11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. 17:12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. 17:13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. CONT..........
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:39:00 PM
PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

You see Mohammedan foolishness np? ayamen1 understands that you would be better off plucking out your eyes, and cutting off your hands through which you transgress, than sinning your way to an eternity of torment, yet you claim that Jesus taught that a Christian can

"...DO WHAT EVER YOU WISH AND YOU ARE SAVED!"

That was certainly what your pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife stealing, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic conquering, thief phony prophet Mohammed thought, but is that what the bible teaches?

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.    


PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

"GO KILL THE MUSLIMS ALLOVER THE WORLD..."

But that is what MUSLIMS have done to non-muslims for the last 1400 years. They are following the example of the ugliest terrorist perhaps in human history. You are ordered to murder, and if you don't, you may not see Mohammed's chicken and wine serving bordello in the sky that he calls heaven.

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Those are your marching orders my friend not to try to live in peace. If you aren't fighting and hating, you aren't a true Mohammedan. But it is obvious that those marching orders come straight from Satan.


PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

"....lets we meet on real World to debate like Sheikh Ahmad Deedat who is now in high position...."
I have proven that Deedat deceived you with a home made bible verse of his own creation, yet you still believe that lying deceiver is with God, even though he taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel. You poor deluded thing. Didn't you ever watch my videos that expose his foolishness?
Please click on the feature video on this page.
Yet his poor deluded bible-ignorant minions clap and smile, even as they march merrily behind him down the path to their destruction. All a person would ever have to do is read the First Epistle of John to see what a foolish liar Deedat was. Didn't you ever even read it? It makes you a liar too my friend.

1John 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.


PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

That verse if from the same Epistle that Deedat claimed proved Mohammed was a true prophet! See how foolish he was?! But not nearly as foolish as those who bought into his crap. Here's some more from John's First Epistle

1John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

1John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth HIM THAT BEGAT loveth HIM also THAT IS BEGOTTEN of him.


PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

"Forum ? O.K.!"
Then come on my friend.

"HERE WE CAN SEE VERY CLEAR ALLAH DID SAY THAT IS HIS EVERLASTING COVENANT..."

That's very true. I'm glad you recognize that the land of Israel is set aside FOREVER for the seed of Isaac. Many Muslims don't recognize that God gave that land to His chosen people the Jews through an everlasting covenant.

Genesis 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an EVERLASTING covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. 8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, ALL THE LAND OF CANAAN, for an EVERLASTING possession; and I will be their God.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=519.0


PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

"WHY YOU CHRISTIANS WERE TOLD BY POUL NOT TO DO CIRCUMCISION ?"

Christians aren't instructed not to be circumcised. What we are shown is that we are not saved through acts of the flesh, that we are not saved through ritual, but rather through a relationship with Jesus Christ, through the spirit.

Rom 2:29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.

Since Mohammed's is a unique, 7th century religion, that is purely of the flesh, and the OPPOSITE of what is revealed in the Gospel, you can't understand these things of the Spirit of God.

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.


PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

Were you circumcised on your 8th day np? No. So it's irrelevant anyway. Do you observe the Sabbath? No. Yours is on Friday!
Do you see how foolish it is for a Mohammedan to talk about the law, when Mohammedans violate the entirety of the law, and even worse than that follow a pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife stealing, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic conquering, thief - which you cannot refute - because this is the way Mohammed is revealed through your own books. Come let's discuss your phony "prophet"
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=336.0


PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

"PROPHET MUHAMMAD WAS BORN MIRACULOUSLY CIRCUMCISED"

Thank you np! Another corker! Mohammedan fables never cease to entertain me!
So then according to you, Mohammed could never be saved, because he? could not be circumcised!


PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

I just investigated your fable a little further. There is no historical record whatsoever of Mohammed being born circumcised. Indeed this would have been big news, but it wasn't, because it never happened.
The most plausible reason for your fable having been created later is to explain why Mohammed never was circumcised.
Some even extend the fable into suggesting that Mohammed was born without an umbilical cord!

Mohammed's phony Quran doesn't even mention circumcision, and it is unnecessary for Muslims to be circumcised.


PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

"There are arguments from the Qur'an which opposes male circumcision, many Qur'an alone followers adhere to this princicple and argue circumcision to be against the Qur'an."

"Imams Ab? ?an?fa, founder of the Hanafi school of Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence), and Malik ibn Anas maintain that circumcision is a Sunnah Mu'akkadah — not obligatory but highly recommended."
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:43:29 PM
np33123 (3 days ago)

PeteWaldo by trying to make fun with ISLAM you are blind to see what kind of mistakes you are doing by saying all that just read it again and again and may be you will be able to find your mistakes and sayings out of context .


np33123 (3 days ago)

YOU BELIEVE IN MAN WHO IS NOT god AND CAN NOT BE ! YOU WERE TOLD THINGS AT THAT TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT PATH AND TO GET RID FROM THE PAGAN RELIGION TO WHICH YOU BELONGED IN THE PAST BUT YOU UNDERSTAND IT WRONG AND FAIL ( I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU THE CHRISTIANS ) ! O.K. THEN CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN THAT JESUS IS YOUR SAVIOR . BUT HE WAS NOT SAVIOR OF THE JEWS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE SAVED BY THEIR FAITH WITHOUT JESUS 'S SACRIFICE . WHERE IS THE LOGIC ? IF SOMEONE COULD BE SAVED BY THEIR FAITH ONLY THEN WHAT IS THE NEED OF JESUS SACRIFICE ? WHAT DO YOU MEAN DID GOD CHANGED HIS MIND ONE MIND FOR THE JEWS AND ONE MIND FOR THE CHRISTIANS AND ANOTHER MIND FOR? THE MUSLIMS ?
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:44:14 PM
 PeteWaldo  (2 days ago)

"WHERE IS THE LOGIC ?"
It isn't about logic. It's about the way God revealed Himself, over 1600 years, to the two groups of mankind. Jews and Gentiles. The new covenant was prophesied during? the old covenant.

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah
33...I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=537.0

You choose to reject that new covenant, that included Gentiles in God's plan for salvation, through the shed blood of Jesus Christ. Worse than that, you reject it for a 7th century murdering, sex crazed, prisoner raping, thief.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=336.0


PeteWaldo  (2 days ago)

"AND ONE MIND FOR THE CHRISTIANS AND ANOTHER MIND FOR THE MUSLIMS ?"

No my friend. Muslims worship the jealous fallen angel Satan, through his prophet Mohammed. That's why Mohammed's record and life of murder, prisoner rape and theft, were the EXACT OPPOSITE of that revealed through Jesus Christ. You are blinded through the spirit of antichrist.

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:44:37 PM
np33123 (2 days ago)

PeteWaldo answer that question please : " Can a real prophet lie for any reason " ?
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:45:02 PM
PeteWaldo (2 days ago)

I am not sure about the answer to that off hand. Certainly Jesus didn't. It wouldn't surprise me if Paul did lie in the times before he was born again and came to know God.

Absolutely the false prophet Mohammed was full of Satan's fraud and deceit
Bukhari:V7B67N427 "The Prophet said, 'If I take an oath and later find something else better? than that, then? I do what is better and expiate my oath.'"
Qur'an? 9:3? "Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations."
Qur'an 66:2 "Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows."
Bukhari:V4B52N268 "Allah's Apostle said, 'War is deceit.'

   
PeteWaldo (2 days ago)

It's God Himself that makes Mohammed a liar

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:47:33 PM
 np33123 (1 day ago)

25:5 And Abraham gave all that he had unto Isaac. 25:6 But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country. 25:7 And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years. 25:8 Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people. 25:9 And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him ( O , THAT SHOWS US ISAAK AND ISHMAEL THEY WERE IN CONTACTS BUT THE BIBLE DID NOT SAY HOW ISHMAEL LEARNED/HEARD ABOUT THE DEATH OF HIS FATHER ABRAHAM AND HOW HE CAME FROM ARABIA FOR THE FUNERAL ? ) PETEWALDO WILL EXPLAIN HE IS THE SPECIALIST EXPERT ! in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre; 25:10 The field which Abraham purchased? of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife.


np33123 (1 day ago)

20:1 And Abraham journeyed from thence toward the south country, and dwelled between Kadesh and Shur, and sojourned in Gerar. 20:2 And Abraham said of Sarah his wife, She is my sister: and Abimelech king of Gerar sent, and took Sarah.THAT IS THE SECOND TIME HE LIED WHY ? DIDN'T HE SEE FROM THE FIRST TIME YHWH DID HELP AND PROTECTED HIM WHY HE DID LIE AGAIN ?
20:10 And Abimelech said unto Abraham, What sawest thou, that thou hast done this thing? 20:11 And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. 20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.( HOW CAN A HOLY PROPHET TO MARRY HIS SISTER ? ) ( FROM THE SAME FATHER BUT FROM DIFFERENT MOTHERS ) IF HOLY PROPHET OF YHWH CAN DO SUCH A THINGS WHY WE NOT DO THE SAME ? CONT..........


np33123 (1 day ago)

14:13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew;( WHAT ABRAM/ABRAHAM THE HEBREW ? THE FATHER OF THE HEBREWS AND THE ARABS IS CALLED HEBREW ? WOW !!!!! WHO WROTE THAT IN THE BIBLE ? ISAAK WAS NOT BORN YET AND ABRAHAM IS CALLED HEBREW ? ) ( IN MY KNOWLEDGE THE HEBREWS CAME FROM ISAAK/ISHAK AND ARABS FROM ISMAIL/ISHMAEL ) for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram. 14:14 And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them unto Dan. 14:15 And he divided himself against them, he and his? servants, by night, and smote them, and pursued them unto Hobah, which is on the left hand of Damascus. 14:16 And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people.


np33123 (1 day ago)

12:10 And there was a famine in the land: and Abram went down into Egypt to sojourn there; for the famine was grievous in the land. 12:11 And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to look upon: 12:12 Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see thee, that they shall say, This is his wife: and they will kill me,( WHERE IS HIS BELIEVE AND STRONG IMAN /FAITH IN YHWH AND HE MUST SAY THAT LIE ? ) but they will save thee alive. ( THAT IS NOT BELIEVE THAT IS HUMAN TRICKS ! ) 12:13 Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee. IS ABRAHAM A FALSE PROPHET ? DIDN'T HE KNOW WHAT YHWH WILL DO TO PROTECT HIM AND HIS WIFE ? WAS HIS FAITH SO WEAK ? WHY HE WAS AFRAID ? I NEVER SEE REAL PROPHET TO BE LIKE THAT !


np33123  (1 day ago)

The First Book of Moses, called Genesis
DID THE GREAT PROPHET ABRAHAM? / IBRAHIM WHO WE MUSLIMS , JEWS , AND THE CHRISTIANS LOVE SO MUCH LIE ?
CONT............
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:47:54 PM
PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

My friend, why would you squander so much space for so little, even going back 3000 years, when you follow a STAND-ALONE 7th century religion, that IN IT'S ENTIRETY is a conspicuously SATANIC LIE. The EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel? Worshiping a phony god that is absolutely irreconcilable with the God of the Christians and Jews.
Even more preposterously the phony words of A SINGLE, 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife stealing, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic, conquering, thief - as revealed through your own books. Is there something about that you don't get?
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=336.0
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:48:16 PM
np33123 (1 day ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrI5aSqZE6A?
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:48:38 PM
PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

Do you now think you are going to be saved by some video link when you reject God?
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.

Do you think you can hide from God's wrath behind some foolish video?
Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

God makes you a lying antichrist
1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.

1John 2:22? Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:50:21 PM
 np33123 (1 day ago)

Why your god chose his son to be the human savior why not his daughter? ?


np33123 (1 day ago)

Which wrath is more powerful the wrath of your false god or the WRATH of ALLAH the real CREATOR and only one YHWH that is ALLAH ! Are you going to close the heaven for the Muslims? not to enter there ?


np33123 (1 day ago)

HOW WE DO THE EXORCISM TO BANISH THE EVIL SATANIC JINN WITH WHO'S POWER DO YOU THINK SATAN WILL GO AGAINST HIS EVIL FORCES ? WE HAVE A LOT OF EXAMPLES IN OUR LIFE THERE WHEN CHRISTIAN PRIEST CAN NOT BANISH THEM CHRISTIAN PEOPLE ARE COMING TO US FOR? HELP AND THEY REALLY GOT THE HELP WHY ? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME ? IS SATAN PLAYING GAME WITH HIM SELF ?

ALLAHU AKBAR ! ALLAHU AKBAR !


RELIGION OR FALSE ? OR HOW THEY SAY IT IS PAGANISM .I RECOMMEND TO ALL CHRISTIANS TO READ IT AND TO USE THEIR BRAINS NOT THAT? WHAT SOME ONE SAY TO THEM .


np33123  (1 day ago)

I WANT TO SEE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THAT :
14:13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew;( WHAT ABRAM/ABRAHAM THE HEBREW ? THE FATHER OF THE HEBREWS AND THE ARABS IS CALLED HEBREW? ? WOW !!!!! WHO WROTE THAT IN THE BIBLE ? ISAAK WAS NOT BORN YET AND ABRAHAM IS CALLED HEBREW ? ) ( IN MY KNOWLEDGE THE HEBREWS CAME FROM ISAAK/ISHAK AND ARABS FROM ISMAIL/ISHMAEL )


np33123  (1 day ago)

CHRISTIANS WHO WERE DELUDED BY THE EVANGELISTS MUST READ THE 53th SURAH OF THE HOLY QUR'AN - The Stars (Al-Najm) AND IF THEY ARE REALLY CLEVER THEY WILL UNDERSTAND WHO IS ALLAH=YHWH ! AND WHAT IS ISLAM THE RIGHT  
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:51:30 PM
PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

"HOW WE DO THE EXORCISM TO BANISH THE EVIL SATANIC JINN WITH WHO'S POWER ?"

It's 1400 years to late to exorcise the jinn, that even Mohammed admitted, met him in that cave that fateful day.
Here it's in Arabic for you watch?v=mpsWnbApBNw


PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

"Why your god chose his son to be the human savior why not his daughter?"

While Mohammed's phony moon god allah inspired Mohammed to assign daughters to allah in Sura 53:18-22 - as separate godesses - to make Mohammed's designer religion more palatable to the Meccans

"For truly did he see, the signs of his Lord, the greatest! Have ye seen Lat, and Uzza, and another, the third [goddess] Manat? What! For you the male sex, and for him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!"

The one true God did not. Jesus Christ is God manifest, or revealed, in the flesh.


PeteWaldo  (1 day ago)

"Which wrath is more powerful the wrath of your false god or the WRATH of ALLAH the real CREATOR and only one YHWH that is ALLAH !"

What you are really asking is, which is more powerful, the wrath of the God of the Jews and Christians, that His people have followed through 2 covenants, for 3500 years, as revealed through ALL of the prophets and witnesses of His 1600 year record.....
Or the wrath of Mohammed's moon god idol "Allah", from the pagan Kaaba that you bow to 5 times a day, that is the subject of the historically impossible 23 year record, of the childlike mind of A SINGLE 7th century illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife stealing, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic, conquering, thief - as revealed through your own books.
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In which even that reprobate's heaven is a chicken and wine serving bordello.
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Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:52:58 PM
np33123 (20 hours ago)

23. They are but names which you have named, you and your fathers, for which Allah has sent down no authority. They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire, whereas there has surely come to them the Guidance from their Lord!
24. Or shall man have what he wishes? LIKE PETEWALDO WISHES ISLAM TO BE FROM SATAN , BUT IT IS NOT !
25. But to Allah belongs the last (Hereafter) and the first (the world).
26. And there are many Angels in the Heavens, whose intercession will avail nothing except after Allah has given leave for whom He wills and pleases.( IT MEANS ONLY THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING TO BE ON THE RIGHT PATH ) . IF THE ANGELS CAN NOT HELP WITH THEIR INTERCESSION HOW THE IDOLS WHO ARE CONNECTED WITH THE SATANIC FORCES WILL HELP?


np33123 (20 hours ago)

"For truly did he see, the signs of his Lord, the greatest! Have ye seen Lat, and Uzza, and another, the third [goddess] Manat? What! For you the male sex, and for him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!" WHAT YOU TRY TO EXPLAIN HERE IS NOT CLEAR BECAUSE IT IS OUT OF CONTEXT , AND PEOPLE WHO NEVER READ THE HOLY QUR'AN THEY WILL BELIEVE IN YOUR LIES ! READ THAT HOW IT IS SAID AND WHAT IT WAS SAID FOR !
17. The sight (of Prophet Muhammad ) turned not aside (right or left), nor it transgressed beyond (the) limit (ordained for it).
18. Indeed he (Muhammad ) did see, of the Greatest Signs, of his Lord (Allah).
19. Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-'Uzza (two idols of the pagan Arabs)
20. And Manat (another idol of the pagan Arabs), the other third?
21. Is it for you? the males and for Him the females?
22. That indeed is a division most unfair! CONT...........


np33123 (20 hours ago)

Again I am asking you was Abraham Hebrew or Arab ? If not , then who wrote in the Bible Abraham the Hebrew ? Because everyone knows from Abraham descend Hebrews and Arabs ! That is huge mistake Petewaldo ! At Abraham time Hebrews and Arabs did not exist yet !


np33123 (20 hours ago)

The Satanic God of the Bible and his terrorism

a. Kill all the boys, and kill every woman who has slept with a man (Numb 31:7-18).
b. Rape of innocent women, plunder and murder (Zechariah 14:2)(Deut 28:15-30)(Isaiah 13:16)(Judges 21:10-24)(Deut 20:10-14)(Deut 3:1-7)
c. The Genocidal Criminal Boss steals and orders genocide (Deut 3 and Joshua 6:16-27)(Nahum 2:9)
d. Interested in Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11)(Leviticus 25:44-46)
e. Child abuse: Bashing babies against rocks and dashing them into peices (Judges 11:29-40) (Isaiah 13:16)(Hosea 13:16)(Psalms 137:9)
f. Schemes with his other Criminal Boss (Satan) against Job (Job 1:6-12)
g. Orders Beheading!!! (Numbers 25:3-4)
h. Punishes with TUMOR and Itching (I Samuel 5:6; I Samuel 5:9; Deut 28:27)
i.? Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21)


np33123  (18 hours ago)

O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of God is the most righteous of you. Indeed, God is Knowing and Acquainted.
[Qur'an, 49:13]
WHERE IN YOUR GOSPELS YOU HAVE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL EXPLANATION ? ONLY STORIES WHICH ARE SO DIFFERENT FROM EACH GOSPEL !
Title: Re: Chat extension with np
Post by: Peter on February 02, 2010, 01:56:05 PM
PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)

Mohammed and the boys on prisoner rape

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allahs Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"


PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)

Mohammed. The "comforter" of Islam

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allahs Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."


PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)

Mohammed the 7th century prisoner rapist and concubine fornicator

Tabari VIII:38 "The Prophet selected for himself from among the Jewish women of the Qurayza, Rayhanah bt. Amr. She became his concubine. When he predeceased her, she was still in his possession. When the Messenger of Allah took her as a captive, she showed herself averse to Islam and insisted on Judaism."


PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)

Mohammed the pimp:

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids? to prostitution WHEN they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

But WHEN they dont want to preserve their chastity then pimp em out and make some gain!
And even if you force them into prostitution Allah will forgive anyway!
Pretty convenient god for a bunch of imperialistic, murdering, prisoner raping thieves!


PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)

Bukhari (4:232) - Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:
I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking about the clothes soiled with semen. He said that 'Aisha had said, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayers while water spots were still visible on them.


PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)

Mohammed the thief, claiming 1/5 of the property stolen from others, just like a Mafia Don

Sura 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger...
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Can we suppose Allah ever showed up for his share?

Sura 8:69 But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)

Mohammed and his followers the Jew hating bigots

Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'"


PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)

Child doing Mohammed, at 53 years old, splashing in the tub with his 9 year old "wife"

bukhari (6:298) Narrated 'Aisha: - The Prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in Itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses).


PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)

Mohammed and his TRUE FOLLOWERS the most consummate terrorists of all time. A blight on civilized humanity and all that is good and decent for 1400 years.

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
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PeteWaldo (51 minutes ago)

"LIKE PETEWALDO WISHES ISLAM TO BE FROM SATAN , BUT IT IS NOT ! "

Sorry, but you forced my hand. It isn't about what I wish my friend. It's about how your phony satanic 7th century prophet is revealed IN YOUR OWN BOOKS as an, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife stealing, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, lying, cheating, bloody imperialistic, conquering, thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of the perfect and sin free Messiah, Jesus Christ, and the New Testament He brought."
Mohammed's phony god even gave him a special "revelation" that licensed him to steal his monogamous stepson's only wife.
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That's why you blasphemed the Word of God in your prior comments as every good satanist does. Because you follow the father of lies, or as Islam knows him the "greatest of deceivers" - Mohammed's "allah".