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General Discussion / Re: this speaker reveals a secret never revealed
« on: April 12, 2017, 03:40:30 PM »
It seems you have not seen the video.

if you have seen it you would say another things

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General Discussion / The title Son of God is from Satan
« on: June 11, 2016, 08:17:04 AM »
this is the book where the title "Son of God" appears more sparingly.

Mark insinuates that this title is satanic; the title appears in  his gospel on the mouth of demons (of Djins), or the mouth of demons (men).

Here the study:

I- on the mouth of demons (Djins)
Marc3 / 11: 11 And the unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God

Marc 5/7 "7 and, crying with a loud voice, he said: What is it between you and me, Jesus, Son of God Most High * I charge you by God, do not torment me? not.

II- on the lips of men demons
Marc 14/61: 61 And he was silent, and answered nothing. The priest still questioned, and said: Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? *
Marc15 / 39: "39 And the centurion, who stood vis-a-vis him, seeing that he had expired and shouting, saying, Certainly this was the Son of God.

Marc and 1/1 "1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, Son of God" is adulterated all learned Christians agreed that these two words do not exist in holy manuscript. (It is a forgery)


the recap: four times the title appears  on the mouth of devils and demons men.

that honor you dear Christian to be taught by satan


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General Discussion / Re: Jesus is son of God
« on: June 09, 2016, 09:05:00 AM »
no Jesus is not the messiah neither the son of God


Jesus is a simple human and a servant of God

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General Discussion / Jesus is son of God
« on: June 04, 2016, 04:35:24 PM »
Jesus is son of God

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General Discussion / Re: The Messiah comes from arabic land
« on: February 15, 2016, 10:05:29 AM »
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I- on the mouth of demons (Djins)...
...II- on the lips of men demons

Yes, even the demons know that Jesus is the Son of God and tremble before Him.

Demons are created to say lies and mislead the mankind


you are misled and you have Satan for teacher



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General Discussion / Re: The Messiah comes from arabic land
« on: February 15, 2016, 02:10:38 AM »
But all of the four canonical Gospels agree that Jesus of Nazareth claimed to be and was indeed the prophesised Messiah and Son of God:-

From the 19th century Catholic critics and by the Protestant saw in the book of Mark a solid document to rewrite sane history of Jesus ,based on scientific evidence , far from the marvelous of Mathiew and the work of synthesis did by Luc h and apologetic purpose of John.


Marc is John Paul's companion in his first missionary journey. Acts tells us that John called Mark cut short his trip with Paul and promptly returned to Jerusalem.
just after his return (he would have submitted its report against Paul and his dangerous tendency to the message of the Gospel) the first council met.

for ample information he is the nephew of Barnabas (famous for its well known gospel of Muslims).


this is the book where the title "Son of God" appears more sparingly.

Mark insinuates that this title is satanic; it occurs in his gospel on the mouth of demons (of Djins), or the mouth of demons (men).

Here the study:

I- on the mouth of demons (Djins)

Marc3 / 11: 11 And the unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God

Marc 5/7 "7 and, crying with a loud voice, he said: What is it between you and me, Jesus, Son of God Most High * I charge you by God, do not torment me? not.

II- on the lips of men demons

Marc 14/61: 61 And he was silent, and answered nothing. The priest still questioned, and said: Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? *
Marc15 / 39: "39 And the centurion, who stood vis-a-vis him, seeing that he had expired and shouting, saying, Certainly this was the Son of God.

Marc and 1/1 "1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, Son of God" is adulterated all learned Christians agreed that these two words do not exist in holy manuscript. (It is a forgery)


the recap: four times appears the title of the Son of God pronounced by the devils and demons men.

that honor you dear Christian to be taught by Satan






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General Discussion / Re: The Messiah comes from arabic land
« on: February 14, 2016, 11:14:10 AM »
by comparing the parallel verses of Mark and Luke to Mathieu one realizes that Matthew's translator had a morbid passion to add the title " Son of God "

for exemple :
Mt 4/3 ' 3 And the tempter came to him , saying, If thou be the Son of God , command that these stones become bread "

Mt 4/6 : '6 and said, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written :' He will command "

Mc1 / 13 : "13 And he was in the wilderness forty days, tempted by Satan ; and he was with the wild beasts ; and the angels ministered to him . "


we see that St. Mark avoids the name of the Son of God . it is the same for all the verses .


here is the miracle of the Qur'an

I- Mt4 / 3: Mt4 / 7 text Mc1 / 13:

II- Mt 12/50 has Mc3 / 35 ; Lk 8/21

III- MT16 / 16: Mc : 8/29 ; Lk 9/20 :

IV- MT14 / 33: MC6 / 51 :

V - MT20 / 23: MC10 / 40:

VI- MT26 / 29: to MC14 / 25 ; Luc 22/18 :

VII- MT27 / 40: to MC15 / 30; LC23 / 35

VIII -Mt 27/43 to MC15 / 32; Lk 23/39

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all this prove that Koran is God's word
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    which is founded is that Jesus speaks about him even as the Son of man.

    never jesus did say son of God.


    the epithet "Son of man" appears in the Gospel ninety times (90 times)

    in Matthew: 31 times in Mark 18 times in Luke 26 times in John 15 times.

    here is the proof. Jesus said, "Son of man" in reaction to the Jews who slandered and dogs and pigs (pagans)


    not a single time Jesus qualifies himself as son of God.


    by Mathieu (maybe you need to reverse the right numbers is Chapter, left the number of the verse

    8/20; 9/6; 10/23; 11/19; 12/8; 12/32; 12/40; 13/37; 13/41; 16/13; 16/27; 16/28; 17 / 9; 17/12; 17/22; 18/11; 20/18; 20 /
    28; 24/27; 24/30; 24/30; 24/33; 24/37; 24/39; 24/44; 25/31; 26/2; 26/24; 26/24; 26/45; 26/64.

    by Marc

    ر 2/10; 2/28; 8/31; 8/38; 9/9; 9/12; 9/31; 9/38; 9/9; 9/12; 10/33; 10/45; 13 / 26; 13/29; 14/21; 14/21; 14/41; 14/62.

    Luke
    لو 5/24; 6/5; 6/22; 6/46; 7/34; 9/22; 9/26; 9/44; 9/58; 11/30; 12/8; 12/10
    ; 12/40; 17/22; 17/24; 17/26; 17/30; 18/8; 18/31; 19/10; 21/27; 21 /
    ; 22/22; 22/48; 22/69; 24/7

    by Jean

    .
    يو 1/51; 3/13; 3/14; 5/27; 6/27; 6/53; 6/62; 8/28; 9/35; 10/36; 11/41; 12/23; 12 / 34; 12/34; 13/31.







    Last edited by bahous; 02-09-16 at 02:58 AM.

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General Discussion / miserable pakistani
« on: February 06, 2016, 04:54:31 AM »
Pakistani miserable.
who traded the truth of God by some breads to eat his fill .

You created this site to lie against Islam and gain few dollars

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General Discussion / Mark warns us from apostasy of Paul
« on: February 05, 2016, 06:45:09 AM »
From the 19th century Catholic critics and by the Protestant saw in the book of Mark a solid document to rewrite sane history of Jesus ,based on scientific evidence , far from the marvelous of Mathiew and the work of synthesis did by Luc h and apologetic purpose of John.


Marc is John Paul's companion in his first missionary journey. Acts tells us that John called Mark cut short his trip with Paul and promptly returned to Jerusalem.
just after his return (he would have submitted its report against Paul and his dangerous tendency to the message of the Gospel) the first council met.

for ample information he is the nephew of Barnabas (famous for its well known gospel of Muslims).


this is the book where the title "Son of God" appears more sparingly.

Mark insinuates that this title is satanic; it occurs in his gospel on the mouth of demons (of Djins), or the mouth of demons (men).

Here the study:

I- on the mouth of demons (Djins)

Marc3 / 11: 11 And the unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God

Marc 5/7 "7 and, crying with a loud voice, he said: What is it between you and me, Jesus, Son of God Most High * I charge you by God, do not torment me? not.

II- on the lips of men demons

Marc 14/61: 61 And he was silent, and answered nothing. The priest still questioned, and said: Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? *
Marc15 / 39: "39 And the centurion, who stood vis-a-vis him, seeing that he had expired and shouting, saying, Certainly this was the Son of God.

Marc and 1/1 "1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, Son of God" is adulterated all learned Christians agreed that these two words do not exist in holy manuscript. (It is a forgery)


the recap: four times appears the title of the Son of God pronounced by the devils and demons men.

that honor you dear Christian to be taught by S.atan



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General Discussion / Re: The Messiah comes from arabic land
« on: February 03, 2016, 03:29:03 PM »

Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Chri
st.

Matthew 16:16-20

Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”  Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. ...Then He commanded His disciples that they should tell no one that He was Jesus the Christ.

How will you twist this one, Bahous?

this text that you are reffering to in translator's Mathiew doesn't exist in the other Gospel. it's a fake

the traslator's Mathiew Matthew's translator has displayed a predilection for the word of God son . it appears 80 times in his gospel .
falsifies the gospel




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General Discussion / Re: The Messiah comes from arabic land
« on: February 01, 2016, 09:16:46 AM »
Just a few points:-

1) The land of Edom was about 1000km north of modern day Mecca. Muhammed was born in or around Mecca therefore he cannot be the one mentioned in Isaiah 63:1.

2) The OT prophet Daniel predicted the first advent of The Jewish Messiah to be during the years AD 29 and AD 33. Surely that also rules out Muhammed and pinpoints Jesus as The Jewish Messiah?

3) Isaiah 63 is highly prophetic and bears a striking resemblance to imagery of Revelation 19. This concerns the advent of the second coming of Jesus as The Jewish Messiah and the day of judgement to come after the restoration of Jerusalem in 1967. This is an event prophescised by Daniel (circa 537 BC) and confirmed by John circa AD 95 - to the year!

Isaiah 63:1-4

63 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah, this that is glorious in His apparel, traveling in the greatness of his strength? “I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.”

2 Why art thou red in Thine apparel, and Thy garments like him that treadeth in the wine vat?

3 “I have trodden the wine press alone; and of the people there was none with Me. For I will tread them in Mine anger and trample them in My fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon My garments, and I will stain all My raiment.

4 For the day of vengeance is in Mine heart, and the year of My redeemed is come.


Revelation 19:11-15

11 And I saw Heaven opened, and behold, a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written that no man knew, but He Himself.

13 And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and His name is called, The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in Heaven, clothed in fine linen white and clean, followed Him upon white horses.

15 And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword with which He shall smite the nations, and He shall rule them with a rod of iron; and He treadeth the wine press of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.


This is why Jesus had to correct Jews saying :" how scribes can say the Messiah is descendant of David" Mark 12/35

and all the believers were awainting the Messiah : John 7/31 :" 31 But of the people many believed in him, and said: When the Christ cometh, shall he do "more miracles, than these which this man doth?

Jesua were always rejecting the title of Messiah : Then charged he the disciples that they should tell no man that he was the Christ



CEB version:  20 Then he ordered the disciples not to tell anybody that he was the Christ.


Another version

Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Chri
st.




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General Discussion / Re: The Messiah comes from arabic land
« on: February 01, 2016, 08:56:49 AM »
My question to you, bahous, is ......

bahous avoids questions. I am not allowing him to start any new threads before he goes back to the beginning of the other two threads and responds to our replies from the top. However ps49 requested this one remain open. I should have left the other one here and locked it with my note on it, rather than moving it to spam. Perhaps our friend didn't see where it went. I'll move it back.
It is well past time we prevailed upon him to honor the vow, that he took when he joined, but failed to keep.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=4831.msg18780#msg18780

you are afraid of me

I don't allow you at any way to submit me under your conditions





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General Discussion / Re: The Messiah comes from arabic land
« on: January 31, 2016, 11:16:16 AM »
Sure, but as I said, the prophecy concerns the second coming of Christ in the wrath of God.
He is depicted as returning from Edom already spattered with the blood of God's enemies.

you agree that the Messiah is warrior. he is spattered with the blood of God's enemies


Jesus was not warrior.

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General Discussion / Re: The Messiah comes from arabic land
« on: January 31, 2016, 09:33:32 AM »
Just a few points:-

1) The land of Edom was about 1000km north of modern day Mecca. Muhammed was born in or around Mecca therefore he cannot be the one mentioned in Isaiah 63:1.

Jesus did not come from Bozra or Edom. this is the essential.

Kedar , the end of earth , Bozra , the south , the distant land , Seir all these locations are in the same route and all are in Arabia land

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General Discussion / The Messiah comes from arabic land
« on: January 31, 2016, 03:04:19 AM »


Esias 63 /1-2: "Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bosra, this beautiful one in his robe, walking in the greatness of his strength. I,that speak justice, and am a defender to save. 2 Why then is thy apparel red, and thy garments like theirs that tread in the winepress?"


Edom is in north arabia land


all the texts in OT reffering to the Messiah say that he comes from Arabia.

the chapter 63 according to all jewish scholars in the Talmud say Edom is the land where Messiah comes from.


See the TOB page 889 and this is the translation:

"this portrait of God's vineyard ; subjecting nations to the press of his judgment, will one day become the portrait of the Messiah, according to Jewish Targums written about. Genisis 49/11; Esaias and 63 / 1-2


you can see the map of edomite people by tourself . and it is useless to try to prove that Jesus has came from this country


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom#/...el_830_map.svg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom#/media/File:Kingdoms_around_Israel_830_map.svg






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6 And he answered and said,  It is not appropriate to take the children's bread and throw it to
dogs

27 And she said, [a] Yes, Lord ; for even the dogs eat the crumbs * that fall beyond " [/ u]


Islam when he invited me to embrass  it call me  Son of Adam ; O people ;

Al-Isra 70 " Certe we honored the son of Adam , we carried them on land and sea , have provided them with good things as food and we have favorited them  much to many of our  creatures "

do you prefer to be dog or pig or  be honored and preferred to many of these creatures?






t -it is someone who feels happy to recognize that he is dog? and eats  the crumbs that fall from the tables of children ?


Children means jews ; dogs means pagans




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General Discussion / Re: Was Jesus really crucified
« on: January 29, 2016, 04:46:54 AM »
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it is stupid to believe this version because the rooster always singing in the morning

And I think it's stupid to think that the arrest and trial of Jesus before the Sanhedrin was all over in ten minutes. It was already very late in the evening when He was arrested and the whole process would have taken hours.

roosters , they always are. and a rooster does not anything  if it is not crows .

no rooster who say poetry or dance .

what you call a real prophecy is a nonsense .

I can say : tomorrow before the rooster crows four times , I have been drinking my coffee
 and this prophecy will be fulfilled and I will be a prophet


the reality is that saint Peter has assisted to a trial; he was not afraid. and he came to see the miraculous fact : the prisoner had no of Jesus unless his physical appearance


the crucified was not Jesus



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General Discussion / Re: Was Jesus really crucified
« on: January 29, 2016, 04:37:07 AM »
So what? He was scared witless and cursing therefore, but he wasn't cursing Jesus.
Peter's only possible reason for following the arrested man to Caiaphas' palace was that it was indeed Jesus.

he was cursing the detenaie . a man hung to a tree is cursed by God.

the man arrested was not Jesus. it is a good reason for Peter to curse him;

and Peter was not afraid from Caiapha becaus he was well known of him ( read the text of John).

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General Discussion / Re: Was Jesus really crucified
« on: January 29, 2016, 04:33:04 AM »
If Peter knew that the arrested man was not Jesus, then why would he follow at all? After all, he's just been in a fight with the High Priest's men.... so you'd think the last place he would immediately go would be to the High Priest's palace!  Unless of course he had a very good reason to go - and that reason of course was that his Lord and Messiah had just been arrested.  Case closed on yet another silly argument.

if what you say is a very good reason , why all Apostles did not go to the high priest's palace to assist at what it had foretold in advance?

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General Discussion / Re: Was Jesus really crucified
« on: January 29, 2016, 04:28:55 AM »
If Peter knew that the arrested man was not Jesus, then why would he follow at all? After all, he's just been in a fight with the High Priest's men.... so you'd think the last place he would immediately go would be to the High Priest's palace!  Unless of course he had a very good reason to go - and that reason of course was that his Lord and Messiah had just been arrested.  Case closed on yet another silly argument.


Peter came to see the miraculous fact.

the man arrested had nothing of Jesus unless his physical appearace

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General Discussion / Re: Was Jesus really crucified
« on: January 28, 2016, 11:24:03 AM »

ASV
Mathiew 26/74:" Then began he to curse and to swear, I know not the man"

CEB

MT26/74:"74 Then he cursed and swore, "I don't know the man!

GW

 Then Peter began to curse and swear with an oath, "I don't know the man!
GNT
 Then Peter said, "I swear that I am telling the truth! May God punish me if I am not! I do not know that man

GSB

Then he began to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man.

Jub
74 Then he started to curse and to swear with an oath, "I do not know the man!

Kjg
74 Then began he to curse and to swear , saying, I know not the man

LEB
Then he began to curse and to swear with an oath, "I do not know the man

RHE
hen he began to curse and to swear that he knew not the man

NAS

74 Then he began to curse and swear, "I do not know the man!"

NIV
Then he began to call down curses, and he swore to them, “I don’t know the man!

NKJV
4 Then he began to curse and swear, saying, "I do not know the Man!

NRS
Then he began to curse, and he swore an oath, "I do not know the man!


all these versions prove that Peter curse the prisoner and sword he did not know him

he was not Jesus




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General Discussion / Re: Was Jesus really crucified
« on: January 28, 2016, 09:59:00 AM »
Judas knew Him and identified Jesus to the men. In verse 48 Judas identifies Jesus (with a kiss) who then identifies Himself as "the Son of Man", ie The Messiah. Who else but Jesus would identify as such?

Peter swore by the holy name of God he did not know this man and cursed him .
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The manner in which Peter entered is useful to solve this puzzle. The three Synoptic does not blow word, however they agree on the fact that the Prince of the Apostles, after they laid the charge

against him to be with Jesus of Nazareth he refused to recognize the man who appeared before the Sanhedrin and swore by the holy name of God! (Mk 14/71; MT26 / 74 Luke 22 / 56-57.). Their

goal is to instill that Peter had given, for fear of suffering the fate of his Master. But the parallel text of John, despite the apparent similarity almost to the letter with that of the Synoptics, is too

far and gives a whole other reason. This story has the merit of explaining the entrance in the palace of Peter by  the friendly intervention of another disciple with the sovereign Jewish priest who

was well known in advance of it. (John 18 / 15-17 ). So it follows that St. Peter, if he had refused to recognize the accused, it was not fear; as it was known in advance, he and the other disciple,

the high priest. Therefore Peter had neither lied nor swore falsely. The man who had appeared before the court had nothing of Jesus unless his  physical appearance. It was a sham! Let us focus on the issue of the

servant Peter! She told those who were there, they with Jesus of Nazareth and Peter answered: 'I swear I do not know the man' (MT26 / 71-72; MC14 / 67).


Peter swore by the holy name of God he did not know this man and cursed him .

it is a proof that it was not Jesus.

you say that Jesus had prophesied that Peter disowned him three times before the cock crows .

it is stupid to believe this version because the rooster always singing in the morning






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General Discussion / Re: Was Jesus really crucified
« on: January 28, 2016, 09:22:02 AM »
This is pure unsubstantiated fiction though. Where does it say that Judas took the place of Jesus on the cross?

because your bible are falsified. this is why there are contradictions

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