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Bukhari:V4B53N386 "Our Prophet ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or pay us the Jizyah tax in submission. Our Prophet informed us that our Lord says: 'Whoever amongst us is killed as a martyr shall go to Paradise to lead a luxurious life, and whoever survives shall become your master.'"

Speaking of the Socialist doctrine he emulated, Hitler announced what he would do what Muhammad did: Mein Kampf:56 "The technical tools of Social Democracy became clear to me. I understood the infamous mental terror which this movement exercised on the population which could neither morally nor physically resist such attacks. There was a bombardment of lies and calumnies toward the adversary who seemed most dangerous [threatening to the doctrine], till finally the nerves of those who had been attacked gave out and they, for the sake of peace, bowed down to the hated enemy. But these fools will not find peace after all." Unless I'm mistaken, this sounds similar: Ishaq:461 "Muhammad besieged them for twenty-five nights. When the siege became too severe for them, Allah terrorized them. Then they were told to submit to the judgment of Allah’s Messenger." Bukhari:V5B59N448 "They surrendered to the Prophet. 'I give my judgment that their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'" Muhammad, Hitler, Lenin, and Mao, poligious prophets all, deployed the same tactics to suppress their people and terrorize the world.

Mein Kampf foreshadows the future that awaits those who tolerate evil, for those who seek peace with terrorists: Mein Kampf:57 "The play begins again and is so often repeated the fear of the mad dog paralyzes suggestion. The Social Democrat [read Muslim or Nazi] knows from his own experience the value of strength. The doctrine praises every pacifist. Marxism is only afraid of strength."

Hitler said that tyrannical regimes thrive on ignorance. Mein Kampf:57 "Most of all it recommends those who are weaklings in mind and power. Social Democracy knows how to create the appearance that it is the only way in which peace can be maintained, yet relentlessly it conquers." Yes, even today, those who promote peace with Islam simply facilitate their conquests.

Hitler, as we shall see, linked Judaism to Marxism. With that in mind consider these prophetic words: Mein Kampf:58 "These [terror] tactics are based on an exact calculation of all human weaknesses. They will lead to success with mathematical certainty unless the other side learns to fight poison gas with poison gas."

As with Muhammad and Islam, terror was the central ingredient in Hitler's Nazi religotic: Mein Kampf:58 "The importance of physical terror against the individual and the masses also became clear to me." Muhammad agreed: Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah’s Apostle said, 'I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror.'"

Der fuhrer emulated his mentor: Mein Kampf:58 "Here, too, we find exact calculations of the psychological effect. Terror in the workplace, in the factory, in the assembly hall, and on occasion in the mass demonstration, will always be accompanied by success as long as it is not met by an equally great force of terror." I find it stunning that America sent emissaries to work with this man throughout the 1930s. I find it stunning that Great Britain capitulated to his will. It’s as if they had never read his manifesto. It’s as if they were ignorant of his motives and means. But it's understandable: it's directly analogous to Americans negotiating with Saudis, Egyptians, Iranians, and the so-called Palestinians without having read the Qur'an or Hadith.

Seventy-five years ago America's best and brightest ignored the words on these pages; in fact, they denied them, as did the nation's media. And this allowed a demented, violent, and hateful poligious cancer to fester. Rather than expose and eliminate it when it was weak, we allowed it to garner money, arms, and men. Nazis used them to kill us. And while that's inexcusable, there is something far more disturbing, immoral, and foreboding here. We are doing it all over again.

We are just fifty-eight pages into Mein Kampf , and yet we know what Hitler is going to do and how he is going to do it. You wouldn't think that it would have been too much to ask our leaders to have read fifty-eight pages and thereby saved the lives of fifty-five million people. Yet they didn't and he lashed out as promised. And this is not just a lesson in comparative history - Nazism to Islam - for our leaders haven't cracked the covers of the terrorist manifesto that is motivating killers today. I can only hope and pray that this comparison between Hitler and Muhammad, Mein Kampf and the Qur'an, will awaken free peoples before terror succeeds once again.

Some may protest that Hitler was more ruthless, and thus a comparison is unfair. But one man’s comparative "success" was merely a function of time and place, not doctrinal depravity. With swords and spears rather than tanks and planes, Muhammad was forced to be considerably more deliberate and homespun in his application of terror. Working with freedom-loving and peaceful Arabs rather than disciplined and warlike Aryans, early Islam was a less efficient killer. Without the population density of Europe in the twentieth century, the first Muslim militants were less murderous, as well. But transfer a billion dollars a day to the Islamic cause, give them time to develop nuclear and biological weapons and time to indoctrinate millions of martyrs to use them, and see what happens in a world of six billion souls.

The Bible says a quarter of the earth's population will die in the ensuing war, a third of the planet's surface will be scorched, and pestilence will render even more uninhabitable. Knowing what you know now, do you want to bet against it, risk your freedom and your life on the off chance that Muslims will not act like Muhammad?

Der prophet identified Jews with plagues: Bukhari:V4B56N679 "Allah’s Apostle said, 'Plague is a means of torture sent on the Israelis.'" Hitler spoke of the terror he wished to impose on Marxists (who like the Jews were both his inspiration and his rival): Mein Kampf:58 "Then, of course, the Marxists will cry havoc; scornful of the state [for not protecting them]. With the resulting disorder they will reach their goal of finding some idiot official who in the stupid hope of gaining something for himself, a favor from the dreaded enemy, will help break the adversary of this dreaded plague." Hitler is implying that confronted with a terrorist doctrine like Islam, a nation like America is likely to comfort the terrorists and attack those with the courage to thwart them. He's right.

Just as Muhammad taught his militants to attack infidels, Hitler said: Mein Kampf:58 "Only those who know the soul of a people, not from books but from life [his abused youth], can understand the impression such success [terrorism] makes on the sensibilities of adherents and adversaries. In the ranks of their adherents the victory gained is looked upon as the triumph of the righteousness of the cause. While the beaten adversary despairs entirely, viewing all further resistance futile." As we have discovered in the Hadith and Qur'an, the terrorist raids perpetrated by militants against merchants, and by Muslims against Jews, had this very effect on both ally and adversary. Qur'an 33:22 "When the faithful saw the retreating allied armies this enhanced their faith and obedience...Allah drove the infidels back in their fury so that their resistance was futile."

Mein Kampf:59 "The more I became acquainted with the methods of physical terror, the more I asked forgiveness from the hundreds of thousands who succumbed to it." They say that confession is good for the soul. Of course you need to have one for it to work. Muhammad didn't so he said: Qur'an 8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle." Qur'an 8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned." Then speaking of the abuse that gave rise to Islam and Nazism, der fuhrer proclaimed: Mein Kampf:59 "I owe [my inspiration] to that period of suffering because I learned to distinguish between victims and seducers." Like Muhammad, Hitler, having been a victim, became a seducer so that he might victimize.

Both tyrants personified evil. Yet in their twisted minds, it was their enemies who: Mein Kampf:60 "sowed the seeds of hatred, creating the justification for their actions.... Fate gave me these lessons." Mein Kampf:62 "The battle against them has to be fought with weapons to have any hope of success.... The struggle for the abolition of evil will be decided in favor of the stronger force." The prophet loved weapons too: Qur'an 8:59 "The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah’s enemy." Both justified their actions by redefining good and evil. Fighting was good; pacifists were evil. Anything that served to satiate their cravings for power, sex, and money was good; anything that precluded them from taking these things was bad.

This next line explains how Muhammad enticed his mercenaries, building an economy based upon piracy and plunder. It’s why everyone in Islam’s path ultimately submitted. Mein Kampf:63 "In politics, the application of economic means of pressure permits extortion so long as the doctrine is reckless and the people are stupid and sheepish." Muhammad promoted similarly reckless odds by inferring that all non-Muslims were stupid. Qur'an 8:65 "O Prophet, urge the Believers to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred. If a hundred, they will slaughter a thousand infidels: for these are a people devoid of understanding."

Mein Kampf:64 "So great was the fear [of terror] that people dreaded war. So the doctrine can ratchet up demands higher and higher. It’s a devilish attempt to weaken or even paralyze the victim's holiest claims. Considering the limited thinking power of the masses, the success of this strategy is not surprising." This is precisely what we have been reading about. The first Muslims used terror to paralyze everyone within their reach. Qur'an 59:2 "It was Allah who drove the People from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe. You did not think that they would go away. And they imagined that their strongholds would protect them. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and terrorized them. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, men who have eyes. This is My warning."

Hitler said this of Communism, but it is equally true of Islam: Mein Kampf:64 "They fear actually lifting people from the depths of their present cultural and social misery because it would wrench from them their base of power." So long as the militancy of disgruntled men can be channeled at an external enemy, tyrants retain power. Claiming to liberate men, Nazism and Islam: Mein Kampf:65 "profane liberty with these words, 'If you don't join with us, we will crack your skull!'" In the Hadith, we find: Ishaq:470 "We attacked them fully armed, sharp swords in our hand, cutting through heads and skulls." Ishaq:471 "We were steadfast trusting in Him. We have a Prophet by whom we will conquer all men."

Der fuhrer was as fixated on Marxism as the prophet was on Judaism. Mein Kampf:65 "I had a longing to penetrate the nucleus of this doctrine, but the official literature was of little use, for it lies." Muhammad falsely condemned the Jews for lying too. Ishaq:240 "The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people."

Sounding like Muhammad and his never-ending argument, Hitler protested like a schoolyard bully: "I was disgusted by their pettifogging methods and writing. Words with unclear content or unintelligible meaning were piled up ingeniously and meaninglessly. It is a dung heap of literary Dadaism. Theoretical untruth and nonsense, combined with sad, foreboding, and depressing fear form a doctrine comprising egotism and hatred. It could bring about the end of mankind. It is a doctrine of destruction." This is an exacting description of the Qur'an. Qur'an 2:59 "The [Jewish] transgressors changed and perverted the word from that which had been spoken to them to a word distorted; so We sent a plague upon them from heaven, for their evil-doing." Muhammad and Hitler epitomized what they protested.

One rant followed another: Mein Kampf:66 "Understanding Jewry alone is the key to comprehending the real intention of Social Democracy. He who knows race will raise the veil of false conceptions, and out of the mist and fog of empty phrases, there rises the grinning, ugly face of Marxism." Why do you suppose these men chose to annihilate Yahweh's chosen people? Coincidence? Jews had neither army nor country. They represented a tiny fraction of one percent of the earth's population. Yet one of these men ordered his followers to kill every Jew. The other nearly did. Ishaq:463 "I pass judgment that their men shall be killed, their women and children made captives, and their property divided." Bukhari:V5B59N362 "So the Prophet killed the Qurayza men. He distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims."

Hitler said: Mein Kampf:66 "When I came upon the word 'Je.' I felt a slight dislike and could not ward off a disagreeable sensation which seized me whenever they were in my presence. Their external appearance had become human, but they had a strange religion." Hitler would call them: "halfwits, nags, malicious, envious annoyances," and "dangerous disgusting liars" whose "smell makes me ill." Mein Kampf:75 "The physical uncleanliness of the chosen people was as repelling as their moral blemishes."

Muhammad said Allah committed "bestiality, turning Jews into apes and swine." He said that the Jews were "deaf, dumb, and blind." And referring to the People of the Book he said, "They are a people in whose hearts is a disease." Hitler said, Mein Kampf:75 "The little Jew, blinded by the sudden light, was like a maggot in a rotting corpse." Mein Kampf:76 "Jews are a spiritual pestilence - infected with a disease worse than the Black Plague. They are spiritual and moral poison, the carriers of the worst sort of germs, infecting the minds of the world." Bukhari:V4B56N679 "Allah’s Apostle said, 'Plague is a means of torturing the Israelis."

Muhammad’s "Allah" and Hitler's "Fate" hated Yahweh's chosen. It’s as if they thought they could hurt him by hurting them. Mein Kampf:79 "Jews were cursed by Fate. They were hit so hard by Fate they have no understanding.... Their boundless hate for themselves soiled their history and abused their heroes."

Ishaq:264 "The Jews denied what they knew. They were obstinate. So Allah revealed, 'People of the Book, believe in what we have sent down or We will efface your features, turning your face into your ass, cursing you.'"

Der fuhrer justified his racism by suggesting that the Jews controlled the world press and Marxism. Muhammad simply sent out assassins to murder Jewish poets. Mein Kampf:80 "I traced the names of the authors of Marxist papers and they were all Jews. I became acquainted with their doctrine and used it as a weapon in the battle for my own internal conviction." With every word, Hitler became more like Muhammad. Mein Kampf:81 "It isn't possible to free a Jew from his convictions. I naively tried to make clear to them the madness of their ideas. I talked until my tongue was weary but it only served to strengthen their determination. They refused to understand.... Their glibness of tongue and skill for lying caused me to hate them."

The Qur'an also claimed that the Jews would never believe. Ishaq:248 "Allah has sealed their hearts and their hearing, blinding them so that they will never find guidance. And that is because they have declared you a liar and they do not believe in what has come down from their Lord. For opposing you they will have an awful punishment."

Islam and Nazism were devoted to dehumanizing Jews. Mein Kampf:82 "They are seducers who condemned truth and denied the word. They are not to be pitied, but to be given their due - to smash the seducer and corrupter against the wall." This is the central message of the Medina surahs. Ishaq:248 "Allah increases their sickness. A tormented doom awaits the Jews. Allah said, 'They are mischief makers. They are fools. The Jews deny the truth and contradict what the Apostle has brought. I will mock them and let them continue to wander blindly.'"

Mein Kampf and the Qur'an spew similar venom. Mein Kampf:82 "Jews are victims of error, instigators of illness, led by devils incarnate, with the brains of a monster. They would destroy the world if not for the salvation of a fight with all the weapons at our disposal. They veil their thoughts and conceal their intentions." Qur'an 2:64 "But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you." Ishaq:240 "The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people." Qur'an 59:14 "The Jews are devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so they will end up in Hell."

Muhammad changed his Qiblah from Jerusalem to Mecca, from pretending to be a Jewish prophet to being their most ardent enemy. Hitler said: Mein Kampf:83 "This was the greatest change I was ever to experience inside me. I had turned into a fanatical anti-Semite.... Destiny itself gave me the answer. The Jewish doctrine of Marxism is chaos. If the Jew is allowed to conquer humanity, his crown will be man’s funeral wreath." For der fuhrer and der prophet, the elimination of the Jewish race was inspired: Mein Kampf:80 "Eternal Nature inexorably revenges the transgressors of her laws. I am acting on behalf of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work." This leaves us with a rather unpleasant choice. Either there are two "Lords" who despise Jews or the Nazi and Islamic god is the same spirit.

Hitler, like Muhammad, hated choice as much as he despised freedom: Mein Kampf:99 "Democracy is a universal plague. It creates a monstrosity of filth and fire. Fate showed me how ridiculous a parliament is as an institution." Mein Kampf:104 "The invention of democracy is a crying shame.... A majority can never replace the Man." Never forget: Nazism, like Islam, was created to serve one man. Mein Kampf:106 "The one true leader, provided by Fate, is to be placed in that position." Muhammad said on behalf of his god: Qur'an 2:104 "You of [the Islamic] Faith, say not (to the Prophet) words of ambiguous import like 'Listen to us.' but words of respect; and obey (him): To those who don't submit there is a grievous punishment." The core message of the Medina surahs is: submit and obey, fight and pay.

Muhammad and Hitler thought that they were superior to the people they controlled. The prophet called his people every derogatory word he knew. Hitler was slightly more refined. Mein Kampf:107 "The mass of people are not sufficiently developed to arrive at a political opinion by themselves and thus are not suited to select the leader." Mein Kampf:113 "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a great man to be discovered in an election." Mein Kampf:116 "Democracy shuns sunlight. Only a Jew could praise such a dirty and false institution."

Muhammad chose the grandiose titles of prophet and apostle. Hitler followed suit, suggesting that he was called to be the oracle or messenger of God. Mein Kampf:117 "The word "fuhrer" (leader) has a very special connotation. Der Fuhrer is a man who gives expression to the divinity enshrined in his people. Der Fuhrer speaks as the Oracle or Messenger of his dreams. Der Fuhrer must have a feeling of certainty. He must not shrink from bloodshed or even war in pursuit of his goal. Der Fuhrer is the German Messiah whose kingdom is to last a thousand years. He is like Christ. He must allow Fate to dictate the course he is to pursue.... Any German who resists Der Fuhrer is a pariah, a blasphemer against Providence." Muhammad wasn't the only tyrant with a messiah complex.

Muhammad wasn't the only dictator to found a religion. Mein Kampf:120 "By using religious forces for political purposes, Der Fuhrer awakens a spirit most would not have believed possible." Mein Kampf:123 "But once it is in danger of being oppressed, it is justified in fighting with all available weapons.... For any man who is not willing to fight, righteous Providence has already decreed his doom. The world is not intended for the cowardly." Good Nazis, and good Muslims, fight. Qur'an 2:191 "Oppression is worse than killing." Bukhari:V4B52N50 "The Prophet said, 'A single endeavor of fighting in Allah’s Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.'" Qur'an 9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah’s Cause." Qur'an 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Hitler, like someone else we know, possessed a delusional self image. Mein Kampf:134 "Only the best and the most courageous characters are suited to act as leaders. If the fight for the new view of life [religotic] is not led by heroes then death-defying fighters will not be found." Both men had a rather nasty habit of over-hyping themselves and their causes in hopes of attracting warriors. Mein Kampf:135 "The mission of a successful movement is to gain leaders and fighters. It must embrace its destiny with force, defiance, and martyrdom. It must fight, not negotiate." Qur'an 8:57 "Inflict on them such a defeat as would be a lesson for others that they may be warned. If you apprehend treachery from a people with whom you have a treaty, retaliate by breaking it off."

Continuing to connect fighting to religion, Hitler proclaimed: Mein Kampf:127 "With religious conviction...the bearers of the new doctrine must declare themselves ready and willing to fight." Mein Kampf:128 "The will to fight using all instruments of power gains favor and draws the greatest possible advantage to the movement." Mein Kampf:132 "Greatness wins new fighters for the cause and they are rewarded with success." Qur'an 8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight." Qur'an 9:5 "Slay the infidels wherever you find them. Take them captive and besiege them." Qur'an 8:69 "Know that the use of spoils is lawful and good."

Suggestive and impassioned speech served both men. Their lives became a performance in which they played the staring role. Mein Kampf:136 "The masses will always succumb to the force of the spoken word. They need volcanic eruptions of passion and spiritual sensations stirred by the cruel God of Misery and the fiery word." Hitler's words, like Muhammad’s before him, served as a confession. The "cruel God of Misery" was Lucifer. He seduced men with fiery-tongued accomplices.

Passions bubbled to the surface and men succumbed to their own desires. Mein Kampf:137 "Only a storm of burning passion can turn people's destinies. Only he who harbors passion in himself can arouse passion [cravings]. Passion will be given to him by the cruel God of Misery. He will choose him, and will give him the words that beat like a hammer - words that will open the hearts of men. The passionate speaker has been chosen by Heaven as a prophet to do his will." Hitler saw himself as a "prophet chosen by the cruel God of Misery," one called to recite the Heavenly revelations of a "new view of life," one called to incite violent passions so that men would fight for his cause. As such, he was the very reincarnation of Muhammad. Ishaqq:233 "Allah’s Apostle: the Lord of the Muslims, Leader of the Allah Fearing, Messenger of the Lord of the Worlds, the Peerless and Unequalled." Qur'an 4:65 "They can have no Faith, until they make you (Muhammad) judge in all disputes, and find in their souls no resistance against Your decisions, accepting them with complete submission."

Hitler could have saved himself a lot of trouble. Had he dusted off the Qur'an's War surahs, he could have dispensed with Mein Kampf . Replace Arabs with Aryans, Mecca with Munich, and prophet with fuhrer, and the rest remains the same. The "cruel God of Misery" is a more fitting title for Allah’s tormented spirit, anyway. Fear, submission, and obedience take their rightful place in both men's quest to gratify their flesh. The Qur'an and Mein Kampf were inspired by the same spirit and for the same purpose. They are equally false, intolerant, racist, hateful, and violent. While the original disciples of both men conquered much of the world, one poligious doctrine lives on. It continues to inflame terrorists everywhere.

As the beneficiary of the largest transfer of wealth in history - a billion dollars a day - Islam is on the verge of acquiring the weapons of mass destruction it needs to fulfill its destiny. Hitler, Mein Kampf , and Nazism gave us a taste of what awaits us. Unless we come to see Muhammad, the Qur'an, and Islam in the same light and eliminate their influence, the world will erupt in a war more hellish than we can imagine.

Quote from: MTLbobiras on March 12, 2011, 11:41:03 PM

I would like to here some feedback from the group here, as I personally found a lot of Bart D. Ehrman's comments quite disturbing and misleading and making pro-muslim claims against Christianity. Is this man a closet Muslim? Or is it clearly a spirit of Lucifer that speaks threw this man to humiliate Christianity?, and to deceive as many as he can to go against the teachings of Jesus Christ! Can you classify this man as a bonafide hypocrite? The trash that he spews against christianity would make Deedat and other so called muslim apologists alter boy's in his comparison.

Ehrman is a con artist of the highest order. He teaches at a University here in my home state so I hear about him alot. His work is misleading and he has had an axe to grind with Christianity for a while. I will post some stuff on him a little later but in the mean time you will see muslims quote him a lot because he is an "expert" who questions the Bible. His work however is totally against the current of most NT scholarship and has been shown to be purposely misleading.

I'd like to be wrong, but I can only see elections going one way in Egypt. As in Iraq, a country that hasn't had any political parties or real elections, will go into their first elections with several parties. Since the Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt for going on a century (1928) I don't see how they could loose, unless a plurality isn't allowed to stand, and forces a run off. Their assassins will likely kill any real competition.