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"Archaeologists say they found town where future King David took refuge from Saul
For decades scholars sought the elusive site of Ziklag, where the Bible says David was given shelter by Philistine King Achish"
By Amanda Borschel-Dan   8 July 2019, 10:16 am

In a finding sure to inflame the debate about the historicity of the biblical King David, an international team of archaeologists claims to have identified the lost city of Ziklag.

Based on artifacts and carbon 14 dating results of excavations since 2015, scholars proposed Monday that the archaeological site of Khirbet a-Ra'i in the Judaean foothills is the site of the elusive Philistine town.

As attested in the books of Samuel, Ziklag, located between Kiryat Gat and Lachish, provided refuge to the future king David when he was on the run from King Saul. After his sojourn in Ziklag, David ascended the throne in Hebron.

According to a joint press release from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and the Israel Antiquities Authority, archaeologists discovered remains of a Philistine settlement from the 12-11th centuries BCE, which was followed by a rural settlement dating to the early 10th century BCE, which is in keeping with the biblical account. Carbon 14 dating supports the archaeologists' timeline and identification, according to the press release.

As recorded in the Hebrew Bible, David settled at Ziklag for 14 months under the patronage of the Philistine King Achish of Gat, with 600 of his men and their families, and used it as a base to raid neighboring peoples.

While the then-Philistine vassal David attempted to join the army of his Philistine lord Achish to defeat Saul, retaliating Amalekites razed the town and took off with the Israelites' women and children, along with much booty. (Spoiler: In the end, David prevailed.)

According to the press release, in addition to the cultural transition between Philistine buildings and the presumed later Israelite camp, the Davidic-era settlement shows remains of an intense fire that destroyed it.

Later in the Hebrew Bible, in the Book of Nehemiah, the town is mentioned again as a base for Jews who returned from Babylon.

Much more at the link

https://www.timesofisrael.com/archaeologists-say-they-found-town-where-future-king-david-took-refuge-from-saul/

Quote from: PeteWaldo on July 26, 2017, 10:20:53 AM

Quote from: Patricio81 on July 26, 2017, 09:49:26 AM

I find it suspect that a person, who releases his research, refuses to answer questions about his book. Using the excuse that "they haven't read the book" to side-step any questions make me question the academic integrity of the work. You should want your research to be peer reviewed. It also confuses new students who want to learn about Islam and the Jahiliyyah period.

Any period of "Jahiliyyah" - that is, period of ignorance - began with Muhammad and continues with his followers unto this day.

Toward that end Dan does a good job of describing the book burning of the Muhammadans. At the 1:11:30 mark.
It took 6 months to burn all of the books that were in the Library of Alexandria even though they were distributed to 4,000 baths that used them for fuel to heat the water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIw1OPH6QvM

Quote from: PeteWaldo on July 26, 2017, 10:20:53 AM
Regarding the author, besides not explaining how Muhammad could have known what went on thousands of years before him, it gets even worse in regard to unanswered questions. I copied and pasted into the book section some of his book that he posted online, and posted some responses to it. Amazingly, he seems to want to make Muhammad's ride on a magic flying donkey-mule to be a literal event on a horse. I suspect he is a Muslim, or at least certainly seems to be sympathetic to Islam, while hard to imagine he could be a Christian. The thread and questions are in the book section at this link:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2929.msg12112#msg12112

Mr. Gibson did, however, do a nice job on exposing the Mecca/Macoraba nonsense:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=5009.0

If we weren't being censored by Google, our sites might be receiving as much as 5 times the traffic they are, since it is my understanding that Google has about 80% of the search market.

Google's farcical "fact checking".
https://www.studentnewsdaily.com/example-of-media-bias/is-googles-fact-checker-biased/

Google is the World's Biggest Censor
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-06-22/google-is-the-worlds-biggest-censor-and-its-power-must-be-regulated

"As we have reported, researcher Dr. Robert Epstein believes Google's warped, biased search and newsfeed results may even have cost Republicans some seats last year:

Studies he has conducted in the past have revealed that Google has demonstrated it is capable of changing a 50-50 split among undecided voters into a 90-10 split without anyone realizing they had been manipulated, and without making it apparent to outside observers, based on a set of search suggestions that can be implanted into algorithms.

And  Epstein made another startling revelation in an interview with Fox News' Tucker Carlson earlier this year: A single shift in Google search results on Election Day 2018 very likely shifted anywhere from 800,000 to 4.6 million votes to Democratic candidates."
https://thenationalsentinel.com/2019/07/25/google-engineer-who-outed-tech-giant-to-project-veritas-for-blatant-anti-trump-bias-placed-on-leave-by-company/

In fact Mecca was eventually established (in about the 4th century AD) about 100 miles away from that trade route.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Islamic_Arabia

There was no connection between northern and southern Arabia (except by boat) until about the 6th century BC, rendering Islam's fables about Abraham a geographical impossibility, not just from the standpoint that Abraham's travels never took him within about 1,000 kilometers of where Mecca was initially established during the 4th century AD - over 2,000 years after Abraham. Wake up people!

Caption - "Dilmun and its neighbors in the 10th century BCE"

In fact Mecca was eventually established (in about the 4th century AD) about 100 miles away from that trade route.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Islamic_Arabia

Caption on pic below - "Dilmun and its neighbors in the 10th century BCE"

There was no connection between northern and southern Arabia (except by boat) until about the 6th century BC, rendering Islam's fables about Abraham a geographical impossibility, not just from the standpoint that Abraham's travels never took him within about 1,000 kilometers of where Mecca was initially established during the 4th century AD - over 2,000 years after Abraham. Wake up people!