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ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY ON IDOLATRY
« on: February 11, 2010, 06:45:42 AM »
 9 - ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY ON IDOLATRY
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Most Muslims believe that Allah sent Muhammad to retrieve Christians
from the error of Trinitarian polytheism. But before we respond to
Allah's beckoning, don't we have the right to examine what we are being
asked to believe? The Bible admonishes us to prove (examine) all things;
and hold fast to that which is good (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Accepting a
creed without examination and genuine conviction, is not just blind
faith. It is like jumping from the frying pan to a roaring fire.

Unfortunately, our Muslim friends are in that exact position. Their
ancestors were forced to embrace Islam at the point of the sword. Today,
over 90% of the people in Islam were born into it and were then brain-
washed through al-majirin (the local Islamic school indoctrination
system). Through that system, they are given an anti-Gospel vaccination.
They are nurtured from infancy with the idea that Christians worship
three gods while they worship only one, Allah.  Muslims accept this idea
without further examination.

Any religion's claim about itself is not sufficient evidence  of its
validity. No religion (except Satanism) would admit outright that it is of
Satanic origin, because no one would be lured into accepting it. Religion
is like a letter written in the name of God. Examining the contents of the
letter is necessary to determine whether it is of God or not. It is patently
obvious that Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Shintoism, Confucianism,
Yogaism, Bahaism etc. - with their conflicting doctrines and confronta-
tional postures - cannot all be from the same God. True God is not the
author of confusion. A master stroke of Islam is its alleged teaching of
one god - Allah - while declaring Christianity to be polytheistic. But do
Muslims actually worship one god?

Muslims generally believe that the prophet Moses did speak directly
with God, hence his Islamic title of Kalimullah. The first of the ten
commandments God gave through Moses is:

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Thou shalt not make  unto thee any graven image, or any
likeness of anything that is in heaven above or that is in the
earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou
shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them. (Exodus
20:4-5).

The children of Israel often broke this commandment and most of their
ordeals were a result of that sin. One of such instances is recorded in the
book of Ezekiel:

He then brought me into the inner court of the house of the
LORD, and there at the entrance to the temple, between the
portico and the altar, were about twenty five men. With their
backs towards the temple of the LORD and their faces towards
the east, they were bowing down to the sun in the east. [This
Baal worship is similar to Islam] (Ezekiel 8:15-16, NIV)

The Children of Israel experienced the lovingkindness of Yahweh (God)
in the wilderness; they witnessed His miracles. They knew it was not the
sun in the sky that delivered them from Egypt, nor the sun that parted
the Red Sea for  them or provided them with manna during their
wilderness wanderings. To the Israelites, the sun was but a symbol, and
yet in the quote above they were bowing down to it. God who judges the
intents of the heart, knew their hearts. He condemned their act and
called it an abomination.

But what is the Islamic attitude towards a similar practice? Allah is
alleged to have handed down the following command, as recorded in
Surat al-Baqara:

"From whencesoever thou startest forth, turn thy face in the
direction of the sacred mosque, that is indeed the truth from thy
Lord. And God is not unmindful of what ye do" (Sura 2:149).

And still in another verse, the same command is rendered thus:

"We see the turning of thy face [for guidance] to the heavens:
now shall we turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn
then thy face in the direction of the sacred mosque: whenever
ye are, turn your faces in that direction" (Sura 2:144).

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The reader should notice that Muslims were previously commanded
to turn their faces towards Jerusalem when praying. What the speaker
is saying in the above sura is that they should change to Mecca.

In the preface of the book entitled Islam.The First and Final Religion,
page V, the author tries his best to defend the usual Islamic argument
that Abraham and Ishmael built the Ka'aba for the worship of Allah.1

Whether that claim is true or false is not the point. The Islamic Abraham
is alleged to have been guilty of shirk (idolatry), so it is not surprising if
it is also claimed that he built Ka'aba. That author went on to say that
Muslims do not really worship or bow to Ka'aba, that the Ka'aba is only
a symbol. That argument is not convincing at all. Why should anyone
bow towards Ka'aba in the first place? If God detests bowing towards a
sun that was made by Him, bowing towards a Ka'aba made by man
would definitely  be worse,  even  if  it was  built  by Abraham.  Is  the
command to face Ka'aba a test? (Sura 2:145). Does God test people with
idolatry?

Why do Muslims run round the Ka'aba, and even go as far as kissing
it during their "holy" pilgrimage?2 History tells us that Arabian pagans
performed this ritual before Islam. It is said that the first Khalifah of
Islam, Abu Bakr, when kissing the black stone (of all the colors available
under heaven, why they chose black is not without significance) said,
"Of a truth, I know that you are nothing but a stone and can do nothing
good or harm. Had I not seen the apostle of Allah kiss you, I would never
kiss you." (Cf. Rafique, Kinsmen of Abraham, P. 19). Worthy of note is
the fact that after the signing of the treaty of al-Hudybiyah (7 A.H.)3 -
while the Ka'aba was still housing those 360 idols - Muhammad
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1 Any Islamic claim of patriarchal accreditation for the Ka'aba would have been
weak  indeed,  had  it  not  been  linked  to  Abraham,  though  there  is  no  historic
evidence at all that Abraham was ever in Mecca. The Ka'aba being linked to just
Ishmael makes more sense, because Ishmael probably went into pagan idolatry
after being driven from his father's house by God's command (Gen 21:10-14)
 2 The author is convinced that Ka'aba is the exact fulfilment of the image of the
beast prophesied in Revelation chapter thirteen, verse fourteen.
 3 A.H. (After Hijra) is an  Islamic way of reckoning time. A.H. time began in  622
AD, the year of Muhammad's flight (Hijra) from Mecca to Medina, a fulfillment of
Daniel 7:25.
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performed the ritual pilgrimage to Mecca. The conquest of Mecca didn't
take place for another year, (8 A.H.).

Muslims want the world to believe that the Ka'aba was sanctified
(purged) because some of the physical idols were done away with. But
religious matters go far beyond the physical world - powerful spiritual
forces are involved. The Bible teaches that an idol is nothing in itself.
What  happens is that Satan stations demons (jinns) in venerated objects
to influence people's minds. If  you  destroy the objects (idols), the
demons (jinns),  associated with those objects don't just vanish into thin
air. Some demons are quite territorial, and will remain at the place
where they were worshiped.1 So what happened to the demons that
stood behind idols that used to be at the Ka'aba? Who is in the Ka'aba
now? Is it Allah, or some displaced jinns?2

Ask yourself, if Allah is omnipresent (i.e. present everywhere) why
does one need to face in a particular direction  to  pray, and in the
direction of a black stone for that matter?

"O ye who believe! intoxicants and gambling, [dedication of]
stones and [divination by] arrows are an abomination, - of
Satan's handiwork: eschew such [abomination], that ye may
prosper." (Sura 5:93).

So the Koran teaches no dedication of stones, right? Well, what
about the Ka'aba, which is also known as the black stone. If I were still
a Muslim, I wouldn't know what to believe, because another "revelation"
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1 Editor's Note: Though not generally understood in the United States, all false
religions are demonically empowered. Demons (jinns) can even enable followers
to perform supernatural phenomena: visions, different voices, unknown tongues,
moving objects, levitation, calling up spirits, out-of-body experiences, death-curses,
etc. The suicide bombers in Israel are demonically influenced to believe they are
doing good, otherwise they would never perform such an unnatural act. Some
pastors in the United States believe they see and speak to Jesus, but a biblical study
of what their "angels" say to them shows their visions to be demonic. Scripture
warns of this possibility, 2 Cor 11:14 "And no wonder, for even Satan disguises
himself as an angel of light." Isn't seeing an "angel of light" what happened to
Mohammed in that cave north of Mecca?
2 Demons can be very territorial. Dr. Neil T. Anderson attests to this phenomenon
in his book on freedom in Christ from demonic influence - Neil T. Anderson, The
Bondage Breaker (Eugene, Oregon, USA, Harvest House Publishers, 1993) ISBN 0-
89081-787-1.
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in the same Koran tells us that Ka'aba is not only to be venerated, but
also the small hills of Safa and Marwa:

"Behold! Safa and Marwa are among the symbols of God. So if
those who visit the house [Ka'aba] in the season or at other
times, should compass them round, it is no sin in them." (Sura
2:158).

Which symbol? Does Allah look  like Ka'aba or Safa or Marwa?
Historically, the idolatrous significance of these hills was so strong that
early Muslims were reluctant to  run  round them at all. Hence the
"revelation" sanctioning the practice. Since Allah also ordered the
worship of a mere man, Adam (Sura 7:11-13; 38:72-77), his command
for Muslims to venerate stones and hills should come as no surprise.1

What about the astrological symbol of crescent and star? How Islam
came upon and accepted those occult symbols is best known only to
Allah and his jinns. What about the string of beads that Muslims use in
their prayers?

I used to be a Muslim, myself. My goal in this review of Islam is to
point out the falsity of these abominations to unsuspecting worshipers.
It is for the people who were made to memorize everything but have no
way of knowing the truth or error of what they have learned. The aim of
this book is achieved if, after reading it, you are (by God's grace), freed
from this snare of the devil. Sacred hills, sacred stones and prayer beads
are but institutionalized idolatry.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image . . . nor bow
down to them. (Exodus 20:4).
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1 There is a reference in the Bible book of Zechariah that some believe to be about
Islam and the Ka'aba. It is written in figurative language, but the intent of the
passage is plain enough. Editor's notes within the Bible quote are in italics:
     Zec 5:7-11 Again he said, "This is their appearance in all the land (and behold,
a lead cover was lifted up); and this is a woman sitting inside the ephah (Ephah
was a son of Midian whose name meant 'darkness.' [See Holman's Bible Dictionary]
An ephah may also be a small  basket)." Then he said, "This is Wickedness!. . . . And
I said to the angel who was speaking with me, 'Where are they taking the ephah
(the darkness or the basket of darkness?)?' Then he said to me, 'To build a temple
for  her in the land of Shinar  (in Zechariah's time, the Land of Shinar included
Arabia); and when it is prepared, she will be set there on her own pedestal (the
Ka'aba?)'"
     There is a now a pedestal in Mecca, dedicated to Allah, that all Muslims revere.
And the people who worship Allah, are they not in great spiritual darkness?
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"Thou" means everybody, including Abraham!

And the rest of the men which were not killed by these
plagues, yet repented not from the works of their hands that
they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver,
and brass, and stones, and of wood; which neither can see, nor
hear, nor walk; neither repented they of their murders, or of
their  sorceries, nor of their fornication nor of their theft.
(Revelation 9:20-21).

Will ye not also repent? If you will not because you were born and bred
in the religion, then hear the fate that awaits you:

And the smoke of their torment ascended up for ever and they
have no rest day nor night who worship the beast [through false
religions] and his image . . .  (Revelation 14:11).

Some bow before the portrait of Jesus, Mary, a cross, or a crucifix. All
such abominations carry severe punishments. Many so-called Christians
also go on a pilgrimage to the Vatican to kiss the Pope's foot. This, too,
is an abomination and without biblical support. Jesus repudiated the
idea of pilgrimage. He stated that God, being a spirit, is everywhere. We
may only worship Him in spirit and in truth.

Jesus saith . . . believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall
neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the
Father. Ye worship ye know  not what: we know what we
worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and
now is, when the true worshiper shall worship the Father in
spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in
spirit and in truth. (John 4:21-24).

If we accept that kissing the foot of a man is abomination, then
every right-thinking mind should admit that running round and kissing
a lifeless structure as the Ka'aba is one of the worst abominations under
the sun. Of a truth, religion outside Christ is religious paganism. False
gods will always beget false prophets, and false prophets will in turn
beget false religions.

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Re: ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY ON IDOLATRY
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2010, 06:57:45 AM »
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Qur'an 21:56 "He said, 'Nay, your Lord is the Lord of the heavens and earth, He created them and I am a witness to this. I have a plot for your idols and will do something against them after you go away and turn your backs.' So he broke them to pieces, (all) but the biggest of them, that they might turn to it." A second translation says: "Then he reduced them to fragments, all save the chief of them, that haply they might have recourse to it."

This is one of the most incriminating verses in the Qur'an. Muhammad did this very thing. The prophet took the largest of the pagan idols of the Ka'aba - Allah - and promoted it to the exclusion of the others. He broke the smaller rock gods and elevated the Black Stone so that his people "might turn to it." It was as if the early Greeks had broken the statues of Athena, Poseidon, and Hermes so that they could worship the one true god Zeus. How was the biggest idol any more "god" than the other imposters?

While I'll continue to convey Islam's version of dishonest Abe to illustrate how Muhammad crafted his religious scam, I would be remiss if I didn't credit the prophet with his first miracle. He just pounded a nail into his own coffin.

The Qur'anic story continues with these uninspired words: Qur'an 21:59 "They said, 'Who has done this to our alihah (gods)?' 'He is a mischief-monger.' 'We heard a youth talk of them called Abraham.' 'Then bring him before us that he may testify.' They said, 'Are you the one who did this?' He said: 'No, it was done by the biggest idol! Ask the other idols if they can speak!'...They were utterly shamed and confounded. 'You know they do not speak.' He said: 'What! Do you then serve besides Allah what brings no profit, nor can harm you? 'Fie [?] upon you, and upon the things that you worship besides Allah! Have you no sense.' They said, 'Burn him and protect our gods.'" Since Allah never spoke, why didn't that shame Muhammad? And why would the supposed patriarch of monotheistic Islam tell his people that a pagan god smashed lesser idols? Would that not make the idol real? Moreover, the Muhammadized Abraham called a "god" false because it "cannot harm you." The implication is that Allah is real because he's fixated on sadistic torments. That's not good.

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Re: ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY ON IDOLATRY
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 07:13:07 AM »
Now we get to the important part. Tabari II:69 "After Ishmael and Isaac were born, Allah commanded Abraham to build a House for Him in which He would be worshipped and His name mentioned." This must be the House that Allah didn't build in heaven, that Adam didn't build, that Seth didn't build, that Noah didn't circumnavigate after Allah didn't raise it above the flood.

"Abraham did not know exactly where he was expected to build it, since Allah had not made this clear [nor anything else], and he felt uneasy in the matter. Some scholars say that Allah sent the Sakinah to him [a rip-off of the Hebrew Shekhinah - the presence of Yahweh] to show him where to build the House. The Sakinah went with Abraham, who was also accompanied by his wife Hagar [Hagar was never Abraham's wife and Muslims know it.] and his son Ishmael, who was a small boy."

The Tradition continues: "A man came to Ali bin Talib [Muhammad's adopted son, his son-in-law, future Caliph], and said, 'Will you tell me about the House?' He replied, 'It was the first built with the blessing of the standing-place of Abraham, and whoever enters it will be safe. If you wish, I will tell you how it was built. Allah said to Abraham, "Build Me a House on earth!" Abraham felt uneasy, so He sent the Sakinah. The Sakinah is a gale-force wind with two heads, and one head followed the other until they reached Mecca and coiled up at the site of the House, the way a snake coils.'"

There are some who suggest that Allah is Satan, the snake who tempted Adam. Using this metaphor to describe Allah's presence supports that theory. But whether or not that is true, this passage is troubling. Mecca is nearly a thousand miles from Beersheba. These places are separated by rugged mountains and virtually impassible desert. There is no plausible way a hundred-year-old man, a slave girl, and a small child could have endured such a journey. And this may be why neither Muhammad nor Allah ever bothered to tell us how they accomplished the improbable voyage.

Tabari II:70 "Abraham was commanded to build where the Sakinah had rested. When he had finished it except for one stone, [guess which one] the boy went away to build something else. But Abraham said, 'No, I still need one more stone, as I still order you.' So the boy went looking, and when he found one he brought it to Abraham. But Abraham had already set the Black Stone in place. He said, 'Father, who brought you this Stone?' Abraham answered, 'It was Gabriel who brought it to me from heaven.' Then the two of them finished it." And I could have sworn that Muhammad told us that the stone was brought to earth by Adam (Tabari I:298). Was he lying then, or now?

Version two follows. It is also from Ali: "When he built it he went forth and left Hagar and Ishmael behind. Ishmael became very thirsty. Hagar climbed Safa to look for water but saw nothing. Then she went to Marwah, but the same thing happened. Then she returned to Safa and looked around, but could not find Ishmael. After looking seven times without success she said, 'Ishmael, you have died where I cannot see you.'" You may be wondering why she would look for water now and yet not have bothered during the three-month desert crossing. You may be wondering why she would look on the top of barren mountains rather than in a valley oasis. You may be wondering why she repeated the process seven times, endangering the life of her child. The answer is Islam. Muhammad needed to make the hajj rites religious. Even today Muslims are required to run between these mountains seven times. This explains why they do it.

However, there were problems. Abraham was supposed to be the father of Islam. In this Hadith, he didn't perform any of the rites. He merely re-re-re-rebuilt the House and bailed. And the one who performed the Islamic ritual, Hagar, left Islam's most important child alone in the desert (as did Muhammad's mother, not so coincidentally).

The sacred Meccan well of Zamzam needed Biblical credibility too, so... "The boy scraped the ground with his finger and the spring of Zamzam welled up. Hagar began to dam up the water, but Gabriel said, 'Leave it.'"

In the versions that follow, we're told, "Abraham and Ishmael set out for Mecca. They took pickaxes without knowing where the house was. So Allah sent a wind, which had two wings and a head of a snake. It swept the area around the Ka'aba clear for them to build the foundations of the original House." Not on the foundations, nor to see the foundations, but to build the foundations of the original House. "This was when Allah said, 'When We prepared for Abraham the place of the House.' [Qur'an 22:26]"

Since three contradictory versions were not enough: Tabari II:71 "Allah commanded Abraham to build the House and to call on humanity to perform the pilgrimage. He left Syria with his son Ishmael and his mother Hagar. Allah sent the Sakinah which had the power of speech. Abraham followed it to Mecca. When it came to the place of the House, it spun round and round and said to Abraham, 'Build on me! Build on me.' [Allah's House was built upon a snake.] Abraham laid the foundations and raised the House, working with Ishmael until they came to the cornerstone. Abraham said, 'O my little son, find me a stone which I can put here as a sign to the people.' He brought him a stone, but Abraham did not like it. When Ishmael came back the cornerstone had already been brought and put in place." After failing math, science, and history, Islam is failing architecture. The cornerstone is the first rock laid, not the last. And cornerstones are big and rectangular. The Allah Stone is small and oval. But again, it wasn't by accident. The Scriptures refer prophetically to Yahshua as "the cornerstone" and you-know-who was desperate to be just like him.

How was Abraham supposed to call humanity to this place? The valley was uninhabited. It was in the middle of a foreboding desert. The first settlement wouldn't be established for 2,500 years. Furthermore, the Islamic Abraham was piling un-hewn, un-mortared rocks in a desert ravine. The first heavy rain would have done it in.

Perhaps the fifth version of Abraham in Mecca will be more rational. After circumcising Hagar, rather than cutting off her nose: Tabari II:72 "Sarah said, 'She will not live in the same town with me.' So Allah told Abraham to go to Mecca, where there was no House at the time. He took Hagar and her son and put them there.... Allah pointed out to Abraham the place to build the House [which would make Allah the snake]. .... When they reached Mecca, there was nothing there but acacia trees." If that is true, Muhammad's earlier accounts must have been false. "The House at the time was but a hill of red clay.... When he was done, Abraham headed back to Syria.... Gabriel dug out Zamzam with his heel for Ishmael." All I can assume is that neither Muhammad nor Allah had a clue as to how the rock-pile got there. These wildly divergent explanations are preceded and followed by dozens more. It is as if Muslims think truth can be found in a pile of lies, if only the pile is big enough.

The Traditions move on to recount a variety of patriarchal Meccan visits. Never mind that Mecca didn't exist. Muhammad wants us to believe in fairytales, in talking stones and trees: Tabari II:78 "And everything that heard him - stones, trees, hills, and dust said, 'Here I am, Allah, here I am.'"

Continuing to give meaningless ritual religious meaning: Tabari II:81 "Abraham took Ishmael with him on the day of Tarwiyah [the 8th day of the hajj] and stayed at Mina with the Muslims who were there. He prayed with them the prayers of midday, afternoon, sunset and late evening. He spent the night and prayed the dawn prayer with them. In the morning he went out to Arafat, and he spoke to them there until sunset drew near." This Hadith goes on to detail all of the remaining hajj rituals, all of which are still performed by Muslims as if they were acting out Abraham's example. "He showed them the sacrifice-ground of Mina, then performed the sacrifice and shaved his head. From Mina he went into the crowd to show them how to perform the march around the Ka'aba. Then he took them back to Mina to show them how to throw the stones, until he had completed the pilgrimage and proclaimed it to mankind."

Because the previous account was unbelievable for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which was that there were no Muslims in Mecca, Muhammad felt compelled to give it an angelic twist. Tabari II:82 "The Prophet said, 'Gabriel came to Abraham on the day of Tarwiyah and went with him to Mina, Arafat, back to Mina, threw stones, performed the sacrifice, shaved his head, and finally hurried to the House. Then Allah ordered Muhammad to 'follow the religion of Abraham.'" [Qur'an 16:123] That must mean that the religion of Abraham, Islam, can be defined as running between two desolate mountains, tossing stones at stones, shaving one's head, and walking around a rock pile. And so it would be. Even today, Islam is known for its rites and rituals rather than for its righteousness or reason.

As we turn the page, we find ourselves embroiled in the mother of all disagreements. Even Muhammad and Allah are at odds: "The earliest sages of our Prophet's nation disagree about which of Abraham's two sons it was that he was commanded to sacrifice. Some say it was Isaac, while other say it was Ishmael." Mind you, these are the very same people we are reliant upon for remembering the Qur'an and passing it along orally so that other sages could jot it down. This might well explain why it is so disjointed, contradictory, and I dare say silly, (not to mention perverted, demented, and disgusting).
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