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"But we preach Christ crucified..."
« on: June 24, 2011, 11:25:37 AM »
Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAEYmzFGDvE

CHRIST CRUCIFIED

To my Christian brethren in the YouTube community, I believe it's important that we not loose sight of our "Great Commission", when witnessing to Muslim could-become brethren. We can be most effective when we focus on the crucifixion, death and resurrection of the Messiah, the Lamb of God, and His saving grace offered through faith in His shed blood. Indeed the Hebrew name of the Messiah "Yeshua" means "Yahweh saves", "delivers" or "rescues".

1Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Corinthians 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

As attested by the new covenant witnesses

Matthew 27:35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
Mark 15:24 And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take.
Luke 24:20 And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.
John 19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also [his] coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.

Just as it was prophesied so many hundreds of years in advance in the Old Testament book of Psalms.

Psalms 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look [and] stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

And as prophesied by Jesus Christ Himself.

Matthew 20:17 And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them, 18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, 19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.

Matthew 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm

The false prophet Muhammad parroted the 1st century Gnostic heresy that it only appeared that Christ was crucified, that was first penned by Simon Magus or Simon "the Sorcerer", who was labeled the "Father of Heresies" by the early church. The evidence suggests Muhammad received this heresy by way of his wife Khadijah's cousin Waraqa bin Naufal, who was a Gnostic Ebionite occult priest. As a result Muhammad's followers must necessarily reject the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and the blood of the Lamb that would save them, as an article of their faith in Muhammad.

They reject the Messiah.... Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Muhammad's followers lodge hollow complaints of "insulting their prophet" in efforts to silence the truth, even as those that argue against  the crucifixion and resurrection of the Messiah, are guilty of blasphemy against Yahweh and His 1600 year record. They blaspheme the Word of God, even as the vast majority of those who do have never even read the Gospel, but instead consume the buffoonery of entertainers like Ahmed Deedat.

1Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

Once we help them fully understand that Muhammad declared the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, there is little point in discussing less important topics they may bring up, in transparent efforts to divert the discussion away from this primary topic. Nothing else matters, since when they reject the blood of the Lamb of God, they reject the Messiah, Yeshua.
However we can only point the way, since Yeshua will reveal Himself to them, once they honestly seek Him out.

Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Please, please, please, at least just do everything you can to get them to read the Gospel. The vast majority of former Muslim testimonies indicate that they simply and prayerfully picked up the Bible, and started reading, and Jesus revealed Himself to them.

A copy and pasted King James, along with web pages on subjects like the crucifixion in Old Testament prophecy, Muhammad on scripture, the Son of God and Spirit of God, is available on our website IslamAndTheTruth.com . You might also suggest the verse by verse, subtitled, movie dramatization of the Gospel of John available at the link on this video's drop-down menu. This may be particularly useful to those that understand spoken English but are a little challenged when it comes to the written word.

I encourage you to save it as a favorite so you can attach it to PMs in which you are engaged with Muslims.

We also have a new Arabic language section in the forum, that has links to an Arabic print, as well as audio, bible.

Once you make Muhammad's followers aware that Muhammad's stand-alone 7th century invention purports the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, you may well have inspired that first spark of cognitive dissonance, that could begin their journey to recovery.

Expect them to parrot their Greek sophist styled entertainer's false exegesises of proof-texted verses in exchange, as if by so doing it could somehow magically transform the Gospel into being the exact opposite of it's whole subject, thereby conforming it to Muhammadanism. One of their favorites, Ahmed Deedat, even created his own phony Bible verse that he repeated on many occasions, with the tragic result of fooling his adoring bible-ignorant minions into believing that Muhammad and his followers are not antichrist.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

In their desperation some Muhammad's followers suggest the bible was corrupted which, in order to conform to Muhammad's stand-alone 7th century invention, would again, require that it's WHOLE SUBJECT  had somehow been so "corrupted" as to become the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Muhammad declared 600 years after the fact. This even though the Gospel had been translated into every significant language, copied thousands of times, and was preached all over the whole known world, by 300 AD.

Unless you believe there may be Muslim read-only participants that could benefit from your exchange with a blatant blasphemer, it may be better to simply declare your work done, once they have reached a full understanding that Islam is the exact opposite of the Gospel of the Messiah. The uniformly predictable result, of arguing with obstinate blaspheming antichrists, is repeated over and over again on YouTube.

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

We can only pray, that a few of the blind read-only participants, will see.

I increasingly believe that many of Muhammad's followers must first overcome Muhammad's stand-alone 7th century invention, since that's what provides their motivation to blaspheme Yahweh and His 1600 year record, in the first place. Testimonies of former Muslims suggest they lived empty lives outside of a relationship with our creator, while experiencing the sinking feeling that there is something very wrong with a so-called "religion", that fosters hatred for Jews in the mold of their self-proclaimed "prophet", while obligating Muslims to fight and slay non-muslims to subjugate them into submission to Muhammad's followers.

Blessedly Islam is so absolutely and undeniably unsupportable in terms of scripture, history, archaeology and geography, Muhammad's followers must reduce their intellects in these regards to that of 7th century desert dwelling illiterates, to believe Islamic so-called "tradition". Yet all Muhammad's followers have to do is Google those categories along with the word "Mecca", or ask their imams to direct them to historical and archaeological evidence, that suggests that Mecca existed before the 4th century AD.

That dearth of historical and archaeological records of Mecca, even as archaeology ever increasingly confirms the scriptures to be a reliable record of the ancient history of the Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs, located 1200 kilometers away from Mecca.

When you ask Muhammad's followers why they believe in the unhistorical fiction, that was created  by semi-literate 7th and 8th century SW Arabian desert dwellers that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-muhammad history, rather than answer with the embarrassing truth, they generally instead respond with unrelated blasphemy against the one true God, Yahweh.

When you ask why they prostrate themselves to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca five times a day, and engage in thinly repackaged Sabian and Quraish moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship rituals, rather than admit the truth, they will instead blaspheme Yahweh some more.

When you ask why there is no historical or archaeological record of Mecca prior to the 4th century AD as there is for many other ancient Arabian towns, rather than investigate and try to learn about it they instead parrot Ahmed Deedat's Baca=Mecca foolishness, or English author Edward Gibbon's 18th century misunderstanding of Ptolemy's assignment to Agatharchides via Diodorus, or suggest Macoraba was Mecca, without bothering to investigate where Macaroba was located let alone when it was established, as if somehow all this nonsense could magically create thousands of years of history of Mecca from thin air, in the first place.

When you ask how, let alone why, Hagar wandered across 1200 kilometers of harsh desert, from Abraham and his wife Sarah's home in Hebron, to Mecca, over 900 years before the historical record tells us the first caravan route was established along the Red Sea, their answer can only be because they believe Islamic so-called "tradition" that was CREATED 2500 years after Hagar roamed the earth. Why would Abraham abandon his home in Hebron, and his wife Sarah and their son Isaac who Yahweh declared His covenant with, to wander 1200 kilometers (to where Mecca was eventually built in the 4th century AD) with Sarah's bondwoman Hagar and her son Ishmael who Yahweh's covenant was specifically not with?

The truth is, that the answer to all of the above questions is, because Muhammad did it, Muhammad claimed it, or Muhammad told his followers to do it. Whether in answer to why they believe in recycled Hebrew and Arabic fables and 7th and 8th century historical poppycock that even includes flying donkey-mules, why they engage in thinly repackaged Sabian and Quraish pagan rituals, or why Muhammad's followers are to fight and slay non-mulims, even if they are the "people of the book". They reject all of the prophets and witnesses of Yahweh as revealed in His 1600 year record, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years, because they follow Muhammad.

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

They reject the sinless Messiah, for a 7th century self-serving self-proclaimed "prophet", that had no fulfilled prophecy and even false prophecy to his credit, that never performed a single miracle, that not one witness ever heard his alter-ego "Allah" or Gabriel give a "revelation" to, whose murderous and sordid behavior is thoroughly detailed in their own books.

It is that spirit of antichrist that compels them to blaspheme Yahweh, and His love for us as expressed through the sinless Messiah, the Lamb of God, and the blood He shed for us all. They're stuck characterizing simple undeniable truths about Muhammad and Islam presented on the Internet, as "anti-Islam sites", because they follow the "father of lies" through his prophet. Their reality is inverted because Muhammad's lies are their truth, so they must necessarily believe truth to be lies, because they have no love of truth.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Brethren, you are more than welcome to invite these poor deluded souls to the Islam Christian Forum, where many of their questions have already been answered and categorized, and are readily accessible through a very effective search tool. Please familiarize yourselves with the forum beginning by clicking on the first link below this video for the text version. From there you can back up a couple levels to view forum categories. There are no pop-ups or click ads or other commercialization, as we don't sell Jesus, nor do we solicit or accept donations.

1John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.