Luke 19:27 "...bring hither, and slay [them] before me."

[resistingrexmundi]

Before I get into dismantling the rest of this post let me first deal with your the part of your post that is actually related to the topic. You said

"It appears to me that the parable was quite finished when Jesus stated to bring his enemies before him and to slay them.
The parable ended in Luke 19:25.
During the parable, there were many statements such as "and he said  .. ." which indicate that it is part of the parable.
And then in 19:26 Jesus says, "And I say unto you . . . " Now Jesus is talking to the audience. The parable is over.
So, when Jesus commands to bring forth his enemies and slay them, that is no longer part of the parable, but a command of Jesus himself."


But let's look at the verses preceding it...


Luk 19:23   Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury? 


 Luk 19:24   And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give [it] to him that hath ten pounds. 


 Luk 19:25   (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)  


 Luk 19:26   For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him. 


 Luk 19:27   But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me. 

The people in the parable were still talking to the Lord of the parable and verse 26 along with 27 were the parable Lord's response. It flows more evenly if you leave verse 26 out as some versions do. Either way it is appearant to anyone being honest about the passage this was part of the parable. The greatest indicator that this wasn't a command however is the fact that the disciples didn't start rounding up anyone for slaughter. Guess you didn't notice that. Perhaps if you devoted time to an honest reading of the Gospels you wouldn't need to depend on these out of context quotes to support your thesis.

I will reply to the rest in the coming days as time is short for me at the moment, but I wanted to address that first.

[Peter]

It appears to me that the parable was quite finished when Jesus stated to bring his enemies before him and to slay them.

There's a good reason it appears that way to you. Perhaps you missed this part of the OP.

Mar 4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. 10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. 11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all [these] things are done in parables: 12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and [their] sins should be forgiven them.

The reason is because the spirit of antichrist drives you to blaspheme Yeshua, causing you to put your effort into misunderstanding. But likely a 7th grader would otherwise be able to see that the parable ends in the verse following the one that you suggest.

Luk 19:28 And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.

That's obviously a reference to when He had "thus spoken" the parable. You can't divorce the last verse of the parable from the rest of the parable. But you did and will continue to, as long as you choose to reject Jesus Christ/Yeshua and the conversion of your heart that you could be enjoying, because you prefer to blaspheme Jesus Christ as if somehow that will make Mohammed's STAND-ALONE 7th century religion more true.

I'll be happy discuss your post point by point. Please do not post on any other threads, or post additional threads, until we have covered the points you raised in the two threads you have posted in already. You have put a lot on your plate. (Please visit "forum decorum")
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=35.0

[Peter]

It appears to me that the parable was quite finished when Jesus stated to bring his enemies before him and to slay them.
The parable ended in Luke 19:25.
During the parable, there were many statements such as "and he said  .. ." which indicate that it is part of the parable.
And then in 19:26 Jesus says, "And I say unto you . . . " Now Jesus is talking to the audience. The parable is over.
So, when Jesus commands to bring forth his enemies and slay them, that is no longer part of the parable, but a command of Jesus himself.


St. John Chrysostom of Antioch who lived some 400 AD stated, “I know that many people hold a high regard for the Jews and consider their way of life worthy of respect at the present time... This is why I am hurrying to pull up this fatal notion by the roots ... A place where a whore stands on display is a whorehouse. What is more, the synagogue is not only a whorehouse and a theater; it is also a den of thieves and a haunt of wild animals ... not the cave of a wild animal merely, but of an unclean wild animal ... When animals are unfit for work, they are marked for slaughter, and this is the very thing which the Jews have experienced. By making themselves unfit for work, they have become ready for slaughter. This is why Christ said: “as for my enemies, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them and slay them before me’ (Luke 19.27).”
http://www.christianity-revealed.com/cr/files/antisemitisminthenewtestament_1.html

So, even early Christians hold that verse to be, not a part of the parable, but a command from Jesus himself (and apparently one that references the Jews).


As far as Jesus never "or recommending using a sword against anyone"
Actually, he tells his disciples who do not have swords to sell their garments and buy swords.
This was clearly not a spiritual sword since it involves actual purchasing with money.
And it was only when Jesus realized that they were outnumbered in the garden of Gethsemene that he told Peter, "Those who live by the sword, die by the sword."

I see. So before the guards ever came, when Jesus told them that 2 swords would be enough, He must have been planning a 2-sword imperialistic Jihad.

Luke 22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here [are] two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

This subject is covered on its own thread. You can reply there after we finish covering the prior two posts here.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=266.0

We have a whole section that explores a lot of Ahmed Deedat's buffoonery.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=33.0

[Peter]

Perhaps the poor fellow ran away after discovering how he had been duped by Ahmed Deedat's lies.

However I want to make sure that the seriousness of the message in the parable regarding Yeshua's judgment isn't lost.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;