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« on: January 15, 2009, 07:07:17 AM »
hi (16 hours ago)

u seem to be very ignorant .. dont u know that GOD IS ONE and we muslims worship ONE GOD, but we dont worship jesus. do u even know that muslim worship the same god that jews worship ? u quoted verses from quran andu dont know the god of muslims ? its ONE GOD only thing is that christians worship jeses or trinty. which they themselves r confused. get ur facts right !!

brotherjw (11 hours ago)

It is you that is ignorant hina. Christians worship ONE God:
Mark 12:29 ... The Lord our God is one Lord: ... 32 ... for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

Indeed you do reject Jesus and His blood that would save you.

Mat 26:28 For this is MY BLOOD of the new testament, which is SHED FOR MANY for the remission of sins.

You do not worship our God. Islam is the PERFECT OPPOSITE at every turn:

watch?v=gc3vcr_MQYM
israelinbibleprophecy. com/islam_perfectly_opposite. htm

pay (16 hours ago)

Brotherjw: Thats what happense when u call ur "lord and savior" a liar. U'll always carry on lying. Some of the best practicers of Islam are christian reverts. YUSUF ESTES, KHALID YASIN, USHA EVENS, YUSUF ISLAM are perfect example for u. Iv told u, u r 58. Chill out be4 u give urself a heart attack. Lying does not help. I will tell u y the millions are living u fot ISLAM.

Allah(sw) have made them see, hear and understand. Unlike urself uv been made blind, deaf and dumb so u'll neva see.

brotherjw (11 hours ago)

But Estes was never a Christian by his own admission. He was a scammer who, in his own words, "put money before ministry". Christians put Jesus first.
He was of the world then and still is.
Never a Christian.
Every time I comment on Estes videos my comments get removed. Like this one that was removed by MuslimByChoice from my liars hall of fame:
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But don't you want to talk a little more about you being the spawn of Hagar and her bastard son?

brotherjw (11 hours ago)

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brotherjw (11 hours ago)

Gen 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou [art] with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call HIS NAME ISHMAEL; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. 12 And he will be a wild man; his hand [will be] against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

And so it still is with the bastard's spawn today. Over 12,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11:
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hi (8 hours ago)

if chirstians worship one god then why is there trinity ? why does the church declared tirnity as "mystery" . if jesus was god then how can he die . for god dont die , if he was a god then how this world is going on after his death ? if jesus was god, then why he use to pray to father ? and why he said that he dont know the time of last hour only the father knows????? why r theyir so many contradictions ? bible says one thing here and somthing there ????

brotherjw (8 hours ago)

The term "trinity" is a doctrinal term that may have begun with Constantine. Though it is shorthand to describe the essence of the New Testament, I'm afraid the term may cause some confusion.
Muslims believe that God has a Spirit, so you already believe in this same manifestation of God that Christians do.
Muslims call Jesus Ruhullah or "Spirit of Allah" believing Jesus to be another manifestation of God.
Christians believe this too.
Try this:
watch?v=GZvFvObWF7I

brotherjw (8 hours ago)

Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. He was revealed to us to provide a perfect example for all mankind.

When He said I can do nothing of myself, or not knowing the last hour, etc He was speaking as a man in the flesh. After he died and was resurrected He said:

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

hi (8 hours ago)

and for ur kind info .. i have prrofs evidences from BIBLE . "None of those who call me LORD will entre the kigdom of god,but only the one who does the will of my father in heave. Matthew 7:21
"I cannot do anything of myself.Ijudg as I hear and my judgement is honest because Iam not seeking my own will but will of HIM WHO SENT ME" John 5:23

brotherjw (8 hours ago)

You misquoted the first scripture:

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

He would say this to those that thought they knew Him, but didn't do His will. A few verses:

23...I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Because they work iniquity. They were only deluded into believing they were Christians.
Please watch:
watch?v=UZ_26AE0G_8
hi (8 hours ago)

we muslims call jesus as esa allay salaam .. u got it ? and we dont belive him as spirit of allah we belive him as prophet and messenger of allah . so stop lieing. No where in the quran it is said that jesus is spirit of allah . UR A LAIR lik eanis shorrosh

brotherjw (8 hours ago)

Yahoo the term Ruhullah. Perhaps Saudi Wahabis don't use the term, but it is not an unusual term among Muslims.

Do you also deny that Jesus was conceived in a virgin, by the will of God?
The only such man in the history of the world to have been conceived in that manner?

Do you also deny that God has a Spirit?

Sura 32.9: But He fashioned him in due proportion, and BREATHED INTO HIM SOMETHING OF HIS SPIRIT...

If you believe in His Spirit then by the measure you apply to me you are polytheist.

hi (8 hours ago)

i have more evidence from BIBLE like u have quoted ur video but u forgot to quote these verses from BIBLE
"No one knows about the day or hour,not even the angels in heaven,not the son, but the FATHER. Mark 3:32
there r many reports in the Gospels which show that jesus made it clear to his followers that he was not true God

brotherjw (8 hours ago)

Already answered this in the first post.
After Jesus was manifest to us in the flesh, He was crucified, died and was risen the 3rd day. He became the one perfect sacrifice to save you and I from our sins. After He was risen He said:

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

That's in the gospels too.

hi (8 hours ago)

firstly what r u christian or jew ? . coz ur name is botherjw. which is jew and who r the murderers of jesus . and if ur chirstian then shame on u , u support the killers of ur so called god jesus. and if that is case then i have nothing to do with u since u dont care for ur god been killed by jews . ur quoting verses makes u A big LIAR and ur actually
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I am a Gentile like you, but I am washed by the shed blood of Jesus Christ. I am in the kingdom of God.

It wasn't Jews that killed Jesus my friend. It was the sinful nature of mankind. It was you and I killed Jesus:
Rev 13:8...THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.

But who did God make the liar?

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave of his Son.

brotherjw (7 hours ago)

The reason for your hatred of Jews is because you are walking with satan, rather than God:

1John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

hi (8 hours ago)

omg i forgot to mention that BIBLE have 5 major revised versions in which they remove some verses if they find it contradicting or they make change it , so it makes another big mistake that BIBLE HAS COME FROM DOWN FORM 5 MAJOR VERSIONS WHICH MAKES IT from the time of jesus till not a very very big MAJOR change.

hi (8 hours ago)

NOW let me tell u the verse which u quoted of surah . this shuld not be misunderstood by the reader coz english is not perfect in literature as u know arabic is higly rich in literature so when translated in english it does not fit perfectly. yeah he breathed something into her . but did he said he was a god ? hey why u quote half verse ? why not full. and why dont u quote other verses just like u quoted verse in ur video ? about jesus being a prohet ?

brotherjw (7 hours ago)

Over 5300 partial or complete manuscripts of Gods Word were penned prior to 300AD, in virtually every language that was known to man, that were read all over the known world.
To suggest it was tampered with would require that scribes from Syria, Babylonia, Galatia, Asia, India, Rome, Egypt, Greece, Carthage, Tarshish and Macedonia - to name a few - all made the same mistake, at the same time, for the same doctrinal purpose.
Preposterous notion.
watch?v=6R2Zp7T5XlA

brotherjw (7 hours ago)

And Mohammed's STAND-ALONE mess?
One preferred version of the Quran was selected, and all other versions burned, ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS. Once under Abu Bakr and again under Khalif Uthman.
beholdthebeast. com/textual_history_of_the_kor an. htm

Even after that, the Quran remained in such a textually preposterous mess, that a rule of abrogation has to be applied. A whopping 71 out of only 114 surahs are subject to. Abrogated verses are listed in Al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh.
watch?v=6Kox5XNuyb8

hi (7 hours ago)

we all know that bible is contradicting that's why it has so many versions. and in few bible they r few verses and in another bible the verse is changed thier meanings r changed and in some the whole verse is taken out. is that what u belive . is that how words of god r to be done, change it whenever u like add or remove whenever u like ? this is what is doen to words of god ?

brotherjw (7 hours ago)

The modern versions are based on a corrupt 19th century modern Greek text.

The King James is based on the Textus Receptus, or majority Greek text. I study with the KJV in with a Greek/English interlinear.

Christian only needs one Quran verse to know it is of Satan:

Surah 4:157 That THEY SAID (in boast), "WE KILLED CHRIST Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them,..FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:-
hi (7 hours ago)

omg we r with satan ,, right that is why JEWS KILLED JESUS omg ur comepletely blind or ur lieing . there is no way. Do u know that in 1950's it was found out it came in newspapers . that they r 50,000 errors in BIBLE ? and ur teaching me who is wrong, who is with satan ? u who even dont know the real word of jesus . u, whos book has been corrupted , and to me who religion is ISLAM and holy book QUR'AN which has not been change for past 1400 yrs . which is still same. huh

brotherjw (7 hours ago)

I rely on God's Word not Mohamed's STAND-ALONE pop-religion.

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.

hi (7 hours ago)

if it is so like u said quran has been burned here is the CHALLENGE OF QURAN
"And if you(Arab pagans,polythiests,Jews,Chirst ians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent dont (i.e the QUR'AN) to Our slave(mohammed s.a.w),then bring a surah(chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses(supporters & helpers) besides ALLAH if you are TRUTHFUL.But if u DO IT NOT,and you can NEVER DO IT,then fear the fire(hell) whose fuel is men and stones,prepared for disbelievers.(2:23-24)

brotherjw (7 hours ago)

But you are looking through the same eyes of a 6th century Bedouin mentality illiterate. If Mohammed could have read he might have learned:

Mark 12:29...The Lord our God is one Lord:...32...for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

You depend on a pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, imperialistic coward and thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.

hi (7 hours ago)

yeah jesus is not dead he is ALIVE JESUS IS STILL ALIVE . Its true , and he will come soon inshallah and he will remove the cross and kill the pigs. and will follow the ISLAM and he will marry and shall rule for 40 yrs inshallah

brotherjw (7 hours ago)

You don't even know who our judge will be:

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto THE SON:

I'll pray for you hina. Hatred is of satan:

1Jo 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

John 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.

hi (7 hours ago)

" O ppl of the scripture (Chritians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion,nor say of allah aught but the truth.The Messiah 'Eesa(jesus),son of Maryam(mary),was(no more than) a messenger of allah and his word,(be!'-& he was)which he bestowed on Maryam(Mary) & a spirit created by him; so belive in Allah and his Messengers.Say not:Three (tinity)!' Cease! (it is) better for you.For Allah is(the only) One God,Glory to be him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. surah nisa

brotherjw (28 minutes ago)

Deadly Quran:

Mat 26:28 For this is MY BLOOD of the new testament, which is SHED FOR MANY for the remission of sins.

Hbr 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and WITHOUT SHEDDING OF BLOOD IS NO REMISSION.

Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?

hi (7 hours ago)

yeah yeah that is why islam is the fatest growing religion HAHHA and that is why MOHAMMED .s.a.w. is the 1st IN THE BOOK OF WORLD'S MOST INFLUNCIAL PERSON .. haha u such a lozer and jesus is 3rd. what u say that ? no matter what u christians say how bad u shall see it on day of judgement. It shows u that ur lair who like jews who were the murderes of jesus .. besides DO U EVEN KNOW THAT MUSLIMS belive in jesus as prophet and respect him ? ur an ignorant.for sure

brotherjw (9 minutes ago)

Hitler's imperialistic conquest made him one of the world's most influential men too. His book - Mein Kampf. Just like Mohammed's pillage, plunder and sexual enslavement of the Islamic First Jihad, unto this second Jihad.

The kingdoms of this world have been satan's legal possession ever since Adam's fall, so it makes perfect sense that Islam would want to join with him through imperialistic theft.

The people of God are called out of the kingdoms of this world and into the kingdom of God.

brotherjw (6 minutes ago)

It's true that Islam is growing because Muslims populate like bunnies, but over 6 million Muslims come to Christ every year, in Africa alone.
Besides the threat of death, there are two other good reasons people turn to Islam:

Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE [IS] THE GATE, AND BROAD [IS THE WAY, THAT LEADETH TO DESTRUCTION, and many there be which go in thereat:

hi (7 hours ago)

AND THIS TOPIC WILL GO ON I WUDNT TALK TO A PERSON WHO DONT BELIVES IN TRINITY AND SUPPORTS JEWS WHO KILLED UR GOD. IT SHOWS THAT UR IGNORANT. LASTLY NOT LEAST ,

" They are deaf.dumb, and blind, so they return not( to the right path)

brotherjw (47 seconds ago)

You reject the steady revelation of God to mankind of the 1600 year record of His Holy Word, through ALL of the prophets and legions of witnesses, for the 23 year record of A SINGLE 6th century reprobate, who used to writhe on the ground and foam at the mouth, and had UNWITNESSED "revelations" in a cave - both are signs of demonic possession.
The bible could have warned him but he couldn't even read.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

hi (7 hours ago)

sorry i meant who BELIVES IN TRINITY AND FORGOT THE VERSE NO. TO MENTION ITS 2:18

brotherjw (4 seconds ago)

You have been so blinded by the spirit of antichrist that you can't even see that your words condemn a whole group - a whole race - of people. Your words only condemn yourself friend:

1Jo 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

1Jo 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
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