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« on: May 18, 2011, 06:47:17 AM »
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Jewish Disinformation on Islam Channel. you will burn in hell for eternity beyond any doubt.

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Re: Chat with shar
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2011, 06:48:05 AM »
[[Jewish Disinformation on Islam Channel. you will burn in hell for eternity beyond any doubt.]]]]]

I'm sure you would agree that simply saying something doesn't make it magically come true. I follow the one true God Yahweh, as He revealed Himself through ALL of His prophets and witnesses in His 1600 year record, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years.

You follow Muhammad, through his 23 year 7th century record, who declared the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel of the Messiah.

Perhaps you could be more specific about the "disinformation" that you accuse me of disseminating.

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Re: Chat with shar
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2011, 06:48:54 AM »
5-10 shar

if you speak hebrew, tell me what is the meaning of "im". like Eloh-im. when you add "im" at the end what is "im" used for in hebrew?

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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2011, 06:49:57 AM »
[[[[if you speak hebrew, tell me what is the meaning of "im". like Eloh-im. when you add "im" at the end what is "im" used for in hebrew?]]]]

The "im" in Elohim indicates a masculine plural. Elohim is a TITLE for God NOT a NAME.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
God's NAME is YHWH as it appears nearly 7,000 times in scripture and in paleo-Hebrew inscriptions found dating from as early as the 10th century BC. It MEANS "I AM" or "The Existent One".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton
It is pronounced "Yahweh".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

A much later heresy crept into Judaism during the Christian era, in which they decided the name YHWH was too sacred to say or write, so they substituted TITLES for the NAME of God like Adonai, Elohim, and Jehovah to use in place of God's NAME.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YHWH#In_later_Judaism

Muhammad's polytheistic pagan father's name was "Abdullah" or "slave of Allah".
Thus even you would have to admit that Muhammad's moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worshiping father was a slave of none other than Satan.
"Allah" will NEVER be the name of the God of the Bible. It will remain the name of a pagan Arabian deity that arose out of the sands of the Arabian desert.
http://www.petewaldo.com/origins_of_islam.htm

Muhammad's Islamic "beast" is just as prophesied.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

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Re: Chat with shar
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2011, 06:51:09 AM »
5-11

But all of that is just an academic exercise, as long as you believe the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. That is that Yahshua was crucified, died, and was resurrected, as a sacrifice to save all mankind from sin. Without His shed blood we die with our sin and separated from Yahweh forever.

Satan, through his murdering, prisoner abusing, thieving prophet Muhammad, filled his followers with complete resolve as to what to DISbelieve. While leaving a complete vacuum as to just who did die on the cross.

Christians and Jews are in complete resolve that Jesus was crucified. Yet when I ask Muslims who died on the cross I get as many answers as Muslims that I ask. Muhammad filled you with complete resolve as to what to DENY. In other words while Christians and Jews are in complete resolve as to who was cricified, Muhammad's followers "who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow". Isn't that ironic?

Please visit this web page link to see how Jesus' crucifixion was prophesied not only by Jesus Christ Himself, but by Old Testament prophets many hundreds of years before Yahshua was made manifest, or revealed, to mankind.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm

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Re: Chat with shar
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2011, 06:51:55 AM »
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Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh [is] in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it [is] the blood [that] maketh an atonement for the soul.

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Hbr 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

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Re: Chat with shar
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2011, 06:52:59 AM »
5-11 sar

you didnt give the full answer to me. 'im' is also added after names to give people respect. in hebrew, arabic, persian and many other languages. now can you read song of solomon Chapter 5 verse 16 in Hebrew.

Elahi was used by Jesus himself, this can also be seen depicted in the movie "Passion of the Christ", i think its in aramaic , Muslims also use Elahi for God. yhwh could be another name for God i dont doubt that. as word 'Allah' is used in arabic for God whether it be pagan god or whichever god Abdullah believed in. simple

rev 13:6 is talking about antichrist which will come near the end of the world which will have One eye. who will rule for 40 days, a day like a year, 2nd like a month, 3rd like a week, and the rest of days like normal. if you want to see the one eyd antichrist you can look at the american dollar bill and see the great seal. the illuminati is antichrist.

lastly, how do you think referring website links can justify something? i can create account n go and edit wikipedia and make u believe anything. i can create a website against any religion and then refer it to you that look it says here. so stop referring wikipedia and websites cuz it does guarantee truth.


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Re: Chat with shar
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2011, 06:54:27 AM »
5-11

[[[[you didnt give the full answer to me. 'im' is also added after names to give people respect. in hebrew, arabic, persian and many other languages. now can you read song of solomon Chapter 5 verse 16 in Hebrew.

Elahi was used by Jesus himself, this can also be seen depicted in the movie "Passion of the Christ", i think its in aramaic , ......]]]]

You criticize me for showing you a wikipedia article that is quite sound, and even has a picture of an almost 2,900 year old artifact that has YHWH's name written in stone, then you turn around and proclaim your understanding of the name of God, form Hollywood.
Muslims always have to try to shoot the messenger because everywhere you look the truth makes Muhammad a lie. Whether through history, scripture, archaeology or geography.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1QPjbzdnlo

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Re: Chat with shar
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2011, 06:56:42 AM »
5-11

[[[[..... Muslims also use Elahi for God.]]]]]]

It will never be God's NAME no matter how much you wish it were so.

[[[[[ yhwh could be another name for God ......]]]]

Yahweh is God's ONLY NAME.

[[[[......... i dont doubt that. as word 'Allah' is used in arabic for God whether it be pagan god or whichever god Abdullah believed in. simple]]]]]

You may think it's simple because your suggestion if patently false. The WORD for God in Arabic is ilah, the NAME of the Arabian pagan deity is "Allah". Most likely their moon, or star (planet Venus) god. Simply look at the first pillar of Islam.

[[[[[rev 13:6 is talking about antichrist which will come near the end of the world which will have One eye. ......]]]

There is no such thing as a one eyed antichrist except in THE false prophet Muhammad's imagination. We can only know about the term ANTICHRIST as it is defined in scripture my friend.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER

1.5 billion antichrist in the world today, in Islam alone.

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Re: Chat with shar
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2011, 06:57:34 AM »
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[[[[........ who will rule for 40 days, a day like a year, 2nd like a month, 3rd like a week, and the rest of days like normal. if you want to see the one eyd antichrist you can look at the american dollar bill and see the great seal. the illuminati is antichrist. ]]]]

Attached is the "beast" of Revelation 13.

[[[[lastly, how do you think referring website links can justify something? i can create account n go and edit wikipedia and make u believe anything.]]]

That's why you have to be skeptical about what you read there, and then explore it further to check it's veracity. What Muhammad's followers do is pretend that everything in the world that doesn't agree with Muhammad's STAND-ALONE 7th century invention is false.

[[[[ i can create a website against any religion and then refer it to you that look it says here. so stop referring wikipedia and websites cuz it does guarantee truth.]]]]

Yet Islam is conspicuously false whether viewed through scripture, history, archaeology or geography.
Please tell me where the thousands of years of what pretends to be pre-muhammad history of Islam comes from?

Why not Google the history of Mecca and learn for yourself, from a preponderance of many, many sites?

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2011, 06:58:28 AM »
5-12

[[[[i can tell you the same thing, that you wont agree with anything that does not fall in agreement with your Beliefs.]]]]

My beliefs are based on ALL of the prophets and witnesses of the 1600 year record of YHWH to mankind that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years. It is heavily supported by the historical, archaeological and geographical records.
I follow the sinless Messiah, Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, the Lamb of God.

You follow A SINGLE 7th century SW Arabian desert dwelling, murdering, prisoner abusing, illiterate thief, who WAS, and declared, the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
You follow Muhammad's 23 year record that IS SPECIFICALLY CONTRADICTED by the historical, archaeological, and geographical records.
Why don't you ask your imam for some historical confirmation of the thousands of years of PURE FICTION that was all CREATED in the 7th and 8th centuries by Ibn Ishak and his followers.
The actual Arabian, and other, historical records CONFIRM, that the rituals of Muhammad's STAND-ALONE 7th century invention are nothing more than thinly repackaged, pagan moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship, as well as from the 2nd century occult cult of the Sabians.
http://www.petewaldo.com/sabians_islam.htm
Yet you are gullible enough to believe that you pray 5 times a day, not because the Sabians did, but because Muhammad rode on a flying donkey-mule from Mecca to Jerusalem to "paradise" and back to Mecca by morning, WITHOUT A SINGLE WITNESS TO HIS FANCIFUL FLYING STEED.

[[[[ so what shall we do if one cant trust websites+ books etc...]]]]]

Why don't you try reading a little scripture from the most widely read and respected version?
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

[[[[ im definately not the one to believe in websites. your videos provide False information i have seen only a bit of one of them and its not all true.]]]]

PLEASE BE SPECIFIC. The last thing I would want to do is have any false information on any of my websites.
PLEASE BEGIN WITH A SINGLE ERROR THAT YOU CAN SPOT IN ANY OF MY WEBSITES, so that I can correct the error. We can move through the errors one by one. I would appreciate your help. Let's start with these two.

http://www.islamandthetruth.com/
http://www.petewaldo.com/

[[[[ you find disinformation on websites and make videos out of them and misguide the masses.]]]]

You have yet to point out a single instance of this.
I'll be unavailable for a few days. Why don't you make a list of the ways I "misguide" the masses?

http://www.historyofmecca.com/

[[[[ wouldnt that act take you to hell? besides muslims dont post misinformation about christianity.]]]]

Come on my friend, don't be silly. Islam is the EXACT OPPOSITE of Christianity, not only confirmed by it's murderous fruit all around the world, but mainly because the false prophet Muhammad inspired by Satan declared the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Islam IS BLASPHEMY against the Son of God and the blood that He shed to save you from your sins so you wouldn't be separated from YHWH forever.
Islam IS misinformation against Christianity that comes straight out of the pit of hell.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3Bla8YwbU

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Re: Chat with shar
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2011, 06:59:57 AM »
5-12 sar

ok in the link
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

you quote
(94) If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth

lets also read the previous verse.
(93) We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had been granted to them, that they fell into schisms. Verily Allah will judge between them as to the schisms amongst them, on the Day of Judgment.

note that the chapter is about Yunus(Jonah). Quran says that muslims should believe in Injeel and Torah which was directly revealed to Jesus and Moses from the Almighty. the word Book in verse 94 means books revealed prior to Quran which are Torah, Injeel, Zabur,etc. while the bible today you hold is a mixture of Injeel, Torah, words of mathew, luke, peter and so on. so we cant be sure which parts are of Injeel which are of Torah and which are apostles word. because we can not trust men. because men can be wrong, even if they are apostles. but Jesus can not be wrong, if u have read the bible complete you would know there are verses where Jesus says to his apostles that he feels he is teaching to children and he says when will you understand me. i dont remember the verse numbers exactly but i have read this. if u know let me know. so that part tells that apostles can be wrong thats why Jesus is saying this to his apostles. besides, apostles are men, neither God not prophets. so we can not trust the part of bible written by mathew, john luke etc. Just like in Islam if we start following the oldest islamic historians then we find ourselves going away from the teachings of Quran. because of them the muslims are also divided in a few sects. so a good muslim should just follow the Quran. because we can not trust men. even prophet Mohammed's apostles could be wrong or in mistake.

so coming back to verse 94 God says that if you have a doubt in Quran then verify it from Injeel Torah Zabur etc. but these scriptures are nowhere to be found today. either locked away in vatican archives or altered, mistranslated, partially destroyed. etc. so you are interpreting WRONG when u claim that this verse means bible,it refers to Injeel etc. nowhere in the Quran is the word bible because bible is john,luke, mathew's writing, not totally God's revelation.

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2011, 07:01:06 AM »
5-12

[[[[your beliefs are based on a book that has 25000 different variations and none of them are identical to the other. whatever suites your needs can be adapted. Prophets are all sinless like Jesus.]]]]

That's simply false. The Messiah is the only sinless person in the history of mankind.

[[[[[your Islamic information is all wrong, the prisoners of war, the educated amongst the prisoners of war were to teach the muslims, .......]]]]

ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN BOOKS, prisoners of war were there for the raping, and sexual enslaving by Muhammad and his boys.

Quran Sura 33:50-51 "O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ...

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

Sahih Muslim Book 8:3431: "It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a captive woman after she is purified (of menses or delivery) in case she has a husband, her marriage is abrogated after she becomes captive.

Muhammad was anything but sinless. Indeed he was a murdering, prisoner raping, child doing, concubine fornicating, slave prostituting, thief.
Even he was unsure of his own salvation, just as you are today. But from a scriptural perspective there is no question as to where he resides today.

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The satan touches every son of Adam on the day when his mother gives birth to him WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MARY AND HER SON. (Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Number 5838; see also Book 033, Number 6429)

Even Muhammad agrees with me. However Muhammad got the sinlessness of Mary from Roman Catholic heresy.
Jesus Christ is the only sinless one in mankind's history.

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2011, 07:02:06 AM »
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[[[...... on the other hand the whole world knows what your christian army did in Iraq prisons how they abused them physically and how they were removed from the army, im quite sure it still happens in those prisons and guantanamo. so it is proved that what you are blaming on muslims is actually done by the christians today!]]]]

It isn't uncommon for Muslims to pretend that all non-muslims are Christians in efforts to run and hide from the Gospel of Jesus Christ. But the U.S. divorced itself from God in 1947 through the Everson decision and the felonious unconstitutional "separation of church and state" that it created.

One must be born again, in order to see the kingdom of God. How does the Gospel weigh in on your claim?

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

[[[[[....and yeah Muhammed(pbuh) was declared the most influential man in the history of mankind.]]]]]

No question in my mind. He got 1.5 billion people to reject the Gospel of the Messiah and His shed blood that would save them, to instead follow Muhammad to the pit of hell, specifically in the spirit of antichrist.

But regarding the vote that you are declaring did you ever investigate the men that made that claim? They were a bunch of Marxists and secular humanists.

[[[[[ the picture in your mind is false and a result of HATE that your media pushes in your mind through false information.]]]]]

My information comes from YOUR OWN BOOKS.

[[[[[ as i said the reality can be seen in scandals like the Iraq Prison. dont forget what your christians brothers do in Iraq prisons. muslims are opressed today, they need sympathy, not hate.]]]]]

If the last dozen years are any indication, over 450 Christians will be martyred today, just like every other day, PURELY BECAUSE OF THEIR BELIEFS.
http://www.persecution.com/public/restrictednations.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51

Yet look at what Satan's people do, even to their own, in the attached video.

persecution of Ahmediyah attached
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKWBr2CLFjY

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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2011, 07:02:54 AM »
5-17

[[[[there is no need of witnesses in a miracle performed by a Prophet. Jesus did miracles and muslims believe them.]]]]

We know He did because of all the WITNESSES.
Who witnessed Muhammad's flying donkey-mule?

[[[[ moses did solomon did and every prophet did. no big deal.]]]]]

Who witnessed Muhammad and Ibn Ishak's fanciful accounts of the ant and bird that talked to Solomon?
Obviously nobody, since the foolish PURE FICTION of Muhammad and Ibn Ishak, wasn't created until about 1500 years after, King Solomon reigned.
http://www.petewaldo.com/fables_fantasies.htm

[[[[[i opened this link http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm
it is talking about ahmed deedat claims but i didnt read it. cuz ahmed deedat's claim can be verified by bible itself, .........]]]]

You don't realize it but you are telling a lie. But repeating lies is what those do that follow the father of lies. Why don't you read the Gospel and verify? You certainly aren't the only one to be deceived by the Greek sophist styled entertainer Ahmed Deedat and his lies and phony bible verse.

Please watch the attached video, or visit the link attached to it for the text version, wherein I prove conclusively that Deedat was a liar.
Deedat deceived his adoring followers by citing a fake bible verse of his own creation, to fool them into believing that Muhammad was not antichrist.
Here is an actual verse from the very same King James version that Deedat pretended to quote from. This is a test of persons. Please read this verse carefully and repeatedly.

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

So was Deedat a liar or not?
Was Muhammad an antichrist or not?
Are you an antichrist or not?
You don't have to depend on one verse. Let me leave no doubts whatsoever as to what else the very same bible version - that Deedat pretended to quote from - says about Muhammadanism.

1John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world. 15 Whosoever shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.

1John 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, EVEN DENYING THE LORD THAT BOUGHT THEM, AND BRING UPON THEMSELVES SWIFT DESTRUCTION.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

You see? Muhammadanism is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Ahmed Deedat repeated his lie in several venues, and it formed the WHOLE BASIS of his claim that Muhammad was not antichrist, so it was no simple error.
So was your hero Ahmed Deedat a liar or not?
Do you think you are capable of even being honest enough with yourself to answer this simple question?

Deedat on antichrist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_A

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Re: Chat with shar
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2011, 07:23:41 AM »
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[[[i opened this link http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm
it is talking about ahmed deedat claims but i didnt read it. cuz ahmed deedat's claim can be verified by bible itself....]]]]]

You may not realize this, but the real reason you didn't read the Gospel of John, from the same version that Deedat pretended to quote from, is because you are afraid of the Gospel. Those that follow Muhammad must run and hide from truth in order to continue to follow Muhammad. Whether it is the truth of scripture, history, archaeology or simple geography. In sheer terror of truth.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Is ahmed deedat your Messiah?
If not then why don't you read the First Epistle of John - the whole basis of Deedat's claim - and decide for yourself if Deedat was telling the truth, or if he lied, about what this specific book and version, says about Muhammad not being antichrist?

http://www.islamandthetruth.com/first_epistle_john.htm

I prove conclusively in the attached video, that Deedat lied to you with a FAKE BIBLE VERSE of his own creation, yet you run and hide from the Gospel because you would rather follow Ahmed Deedat.
You could die this very day. Forever is a very long time, my friend.

deedat on antichrist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_A