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Ishmael's Children of the Flesh
« on: September 11, 2011, 10:34:19 AM »
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THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH


Genesis 21:1 And the LORD visited Sarah as he had said, and the LORD did unto Sarah as he had spoken. 2 For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him. 3 And Abraham called the name of his son that was born unto him, whom Sarah bare to him, Isaac. 4 And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God had commanded him. 5 And Abraham was an hundred years old, when his son Isaac was born unto him. 6 And Sarah said, God hath made me to laugh, [so that] all that hear will laugh with me. 7 And she said, Who would have said unto Abraham, that Sarah should have given children suck? for I have born [him] a son in his old age. 8 And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the [same] day that Isaac was weaned. 9 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking. 10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, [even] with Isaac. 11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son. 12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called. 13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he [is] thy seed. 14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave [it] unto Hagar, putting [it] on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.

The seed of Ishmael today, are just as was prophesied.

Genesis 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou [art] with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. 12 And he will be a wild man; his hand [will be] against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Sura 4:74 Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).

Bukhari B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

Galatians 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he [who was] of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman [was] by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.



Yet even as scripture explains that Yahweh's covenants are with the seed of Isaac, and that the seed of Hagar are in the bondage of the flesh, Muslims proudly proclaim to be of the seed of Hagar's son Ishmael!

What could make their bondage to the flesh more apparent than their daily prostration toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca, and their adopted and adapted Quraish moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship rituals, of the Hajj and Umrah? Indeed the pagans and Muslims performed these rituals side by side until the year before Muhammad's last Hajj when the pagans were kicked out of their own rituals.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 26, Number 689: Narrated Abu Huraira: In the year prior to the last Hajj of the Prophet when Allahs Apostle made Abu Bakr the leader of the pilgrims, the latter (Abu Bakr) sent me in the company of a group of people to make a public announcement: 'No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year, and no naked person is allowed to perform Tawaf of the Kaba.'

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

They pray ritualistically five times a day, practice ablution, wear long white robes, and fast during the month of Ramadan, just as the Sabians did. Amazingly, Muslims believe they pray five times a day, because Muhammad claimed he learned the ordinance on a trip up to "paradise" one night when he was riding around on a flying donkey-mule. Perhaps not coincidentally, the Zoroastrians believe their fabled prophet rode on a mythical flying steed, or "baraq", to the dwelling place of his immortal ancestors as well. Since Zoroastrianism was spread widely by the 7th century, was it really a great leap for an illiterate SW Arabian desert dweller, to make the claim that he himself did the same? Indeed it didn't even require imagination.

Yet Muslims believe Muhammad's tall tale purely because Muhammad claimed it, without a single witness to his flying steed, let alone his journey. This while history tells us that the "mosque" that he claimed he prayed in, in Jerusalem, had been torn down almost 500 years before his claim of having prayed in it. Even most of the few illiterate SW Arabian desert dwellers Muhammad was able to glean in the first 13 years of Islam, left his "religion", after he told this tall tale. So what's with his followers in this 21st century information age?

Muhammad's night journey can't be passed off as metaphorical without labeling the most authoritative reporter of Muhammad's life a liar.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 228:Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The sights which Allah's Apostle was shown on the Night Journey when he was taken to Bait-ul-Maqdis (i.e. Jerusalem) were actual sights, (not dreams). And the Cursed Tree (mentioned) in the Quran is the tree of Zaqqum (itself).

Following a self-proclaimed "prophet" and his tall tales, even as they pay lip service that they "believe in Jesus" and believe He was a "great prophet", while believing Jesus own prophecy - and the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel - to be false.

Matthew 20:17 And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them, 18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, 19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.

Please see the "Crucifixion of the Messiah in Prophecy" video for more.

While still desperately seeking salvation through inheritance, that is through the flesh, rather than through the Spirit by being born again and enjoying a life in Christ Jesus, an Islamic Mufti YouTuber wrote the following to me:

"Wasn't Esau/Edom the first born son of Isaac? Allah said to Abraham ...."I WILL MAKE MY COVENANT WITH ISAAC AND HIS CHILDREN ".... Well I think Esau/Edom was child of Isaac (p.b.u.t.a.) But I show you facts that 95% of Edom's children are Sunni Muslims now mixed with their Arab cousins the descendants of the other first born son of Abraham/Ibrahim, ISHMAEL/ISMAIL. Is the covenant of ALMIGHTY broken /cancelled like that?"

While he admitted the scriptural reality that Yahweh made his covenant with the seed of Isaac and specifically not with Ishmael, except by way of Isaac's seed Esau, what did Esau do with his birthright that this Mufti lays claim to for "95% of Edom's children are Sunni Muslims now mixed with their Arab cousins"?

Genesis 25:30 And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red [pottage]; for I [am] faint: therefore was his name called Edom. {with...: Heb. with that red, with that red pottage} {Edom: that is Red} 31 And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright. 32 And Esau said, Behold, I [am] at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me? {at...: Heb. going to die} 33 And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and He sold his birthright unto Jacob. 34 Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised [his] birthright.

Esau traded the inheritance of those "Sunni Muslims" for a little bread and pottage of lentiles.


In the "Simon Magus, Gnosticism, Ebionites & Islam" video we explored the likely source of Muhammad's denial of the crucifixion, death and resurrection of the Messiah, that he received by way of his first wife Khadijah's cousin Waraqa bin Nufal, who was an Ebionite occult priest.

It is the spirit of the "prince of the power of the air" that guides magicians, sorcerers and Gnostics like Basilides and other blasphemers - that "contend against the apostles" as Simon Magus did.

Muhammad's followers must not only deny the whole subject of the Gospel, but are even compelled to believe that when Jesus returns, He will "break the cross"!

Bukhari B43 #656 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).

Jesus apparently to return and reverse the testimonies of all of His prophets, disciples, apostles and witnesses, bequeathed to us as the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, as well as the historical record.

And wouldn't you know it - "money in abundance"!  Muhammad again revealing his focus on the things of the flesh. Whether through his extra large bevy of wives, concubines and slaves that his "Allah" allotted only to him, or the chicken and wine serving bordello of his imagination that he called "paradise".

Bukhari B5 #268 Narrated Qatada: Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).

Romans 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Of the carnal "paradise" of Muhammad's imagination for example.....

Sura 56:15 (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones),

Gold and precious stones are the kinds of things that ensnare folks of this world into the things of the flesh and away from the things of the Spirit of God.

20 And with fruits, any that they may select:

Will we be required to eat in the hereafter?

17 Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness),

Will there be servants or slaves in the hereafter, as Muhammad and his followers press into service in this world?



18 With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains

Is it a mere coincidence that fresh running water is perhaps the most frequently mentioned element in this desert dwellers "paradise".

21 And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire.

Do our Muslim friends really believe that heaven includes a chicken in every pot!

22 And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,-

Is this what the women are looking forward to in Muhammad's "paradise"? Or does this sound more like something that might be promised to men to encourage suicidal loyalty during imperialistic conquest?

30 In shade long-extended,

Not a lot of shade in the SW Arabian desert either! Particularly in the barren area of Mecca that only gets about 1/10 the rain that even Yemen does.

31 By water flowing constantly,
32 And fruit in abundance.
34 And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high.

Feeding a false sense of self-righteousness? "Raised high" above who or what?

35 We have created (their Companions) of special creation.
36 And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), -
37 Beloved (by nature), equal in age,-

Is this really what women want, or are they the ones that wind up cooking the chicken, in Muhammad's paradise?
To go along with those multiple virgins:

Surah 83:25 Their thirst will be slaked with Pure Wine sealed:

The following verse should be a relief for those that prefer natural fibers:

Surah 76:12 And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.


To the seed of Hagar, you can break that bondage of the flesh through a relationship with the Messiah, Yeshua, the Son of the Living God.

John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

You don't need to prostrate yourself toward the Quraish pagan's Kaaba in Mecca five times a day, for your prayers to be heard, by the one true omnipresent God of the scriptures. Particularly since there is not a shred of historical or archaeological record that suggests that Mecca ever even existed, before about the 4th century AD, when immigrants from Yemen settled the area, and built their Kaaba in the early 5th century AD for Arabian Star Family and jinn devil worship.

You can repent of the things of the flesh and be born again.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

You don't have to be burdened with the blasphemy of believing that our immortal sinless Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the Alpha and the Omega - the beginning and the end - who took on His glorified body, will return again only to die a mortal fleshly death!

This while being compelled to deny the blood that would save you, because of your faith in the Gnostic doctrine of Simonianism, that you received by way of the self-proclaimed "prophet" Muhammad's first wife Khadijah's cousin Waraqa.

While Muhammad was only able to gain about a hundred followers in the first 13 years of his new "religion", after his fantastic tale of riding on a flying donkey-mule one night, he lost most of the few he had gained. Indeed his religious invention would likely have died right then and there, if he hadn't moved to Medina and enlisted the aid of the two caravan plundering bandit tribes, of Aws and Khazraj, to attack, slaughter, sexually abuse and plunder the Jewish farming communities of Medina. Muhammad stole swords and armor from them and began the transformation of his "religion" into an imperialistic political system, eventually exacting his revenge on, and subjugating, his own tribe the Quraish, in Mecca. Certainly one reason for Muhammad's need to silence them was that they were too well familiar with the sources of much of his "inspiration". Muhammad even having been compelled to "receive" a special "revelation" in a transparent attempt at damage control.

Sura 16.103 We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.

So many locals recognized Muhammad's ex"Christian" friend Jabr as being one of the primary sources of his "revelations" that the local nickname for Jabr became "holy spirit". ("Anatomy of the Quran" by G.J.O. Moshay)

So what kind of behavior might the "prince of the power of the air", that inspires his people to DISbelieve the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, call his people to do through his spirit?

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

From the Quran Sura 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

While fighting is obligatory for Muhammad's true followers, the Gospel binds no such thing as was falsely attributed to it in that sura, but instead teaches the EXACT OPPOSITE.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Noble Qur'an:2:190 Footnote: Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.

From the free online book "Prophet of Doom" by Craig Winn - "Memorize this paragraph. Shout it out to all who will listen. Every word was derived from the Qur'an. Every word was lived by Muhammad. It accurately represents fundamental Islam, so much so, each of the 150 Hadiths that follow this definition of Jihad speak of fighting; none suggest a spiritual struggle. Among them, Muhammad says that the most important deed is Jihad, fighting in Allah’s Cause.

Jihad

Thus it is painfully obvious, that Muslims that claim Islam is a "religion of peace", are in fact "hypocrites". True followers of Muhammad - that GET Islam - would be just as happy to cut their heads off if they didn't repent, as any other Islamic apostates.

Thus there can be no question that the ultimate arbiters among Muhammad's followers would be the most violent and savage among them. Like the Taliban, or a group even more reprobate, that would rule them. Meanwhile, the Muslim Brotherhood is busily claiming the Middle East, in the cause of female circumcision (FGM), ultimately to be ruled themselves, by such as these.



Or like the Saudi religious police that sent 15 girls back into a burning school to their deaths, for having the audacity of trying to escape the flames, by emerging from the burning building without head coverings.

In other words, sorely deluded "peaceful" Muslim hypocrites, are not only cheering on their own demise, but the destruction of their children, and their children's children - particularly the girls.

Tabari I:280 Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of the world menstruate and are stupid.

What kind of life, and love, must Islamic women find in husbands that spend their lives salivating over the prospect of big eyed virgins in Muhammad's "paradise"? Men that kill their own wives and daughters to preserve their "honor".

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Muhammad wishing his alter-ego "Allah's" curse on Yahweh's people. Is it a surprise to find that the kingdom "beast" of "Abaddon" has a duty to fight against those that have come to know the love of the one true God, Yahweh, through a personal relationship with the Messiah, Yeshua, whose very name means "Yahweh saves", rescues or delivers?

Indeed Muhammad's followers that come to Christ in Saudi Arabia, are beheaded to this day, as "apostates". For 1400 years, Islam has been spread by the sword, and the threat of execution for apostasy. Meanwhile, about 300 Christians are martyred around the world every day, primarily in Islamic and communist countries, for preaching Christ crucified. Neither doctrine can stand the light of the truth of the Gospel.

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Do our Muslim friends really believe that our loving God Yahweh would annul the Gospel, by revealing the EXACT OPPOSITE of it's WHOLE SUBJECT through A SINGLE 7th century SW Arabian desert dwelling illiterate, whose character Islam's own books reveal as being the EXACT OPPOSITE of the sinless Messiah?

Bukhari:V5B59N448 "They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sa'd to give the verdict. Sad said, 'I give my judgment that their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'"

So it wasn't even Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah", that passed his judgment on the Banu Qurayza, but rather Muhammad's side-kick Sa'd gave the "verdict".

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

Tabari VIII:40 "The Messenger of God commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence."

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

Five more Hadiths repeat that theme, in Bukhari alone.

Always conspicuously the EXACT OPPOSITE, through the Gospel, we Christians are called to love everyone.

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Including our enemies.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Internet and YouTube Christians, engage Yahweh's enemies in battle every day, with the sword that He gave us.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

If you think God is about imperialistic conquest and beheading innocent Jewish farm boys and their dads and grandpas, while sexually violating and enslaving their little sisters, mothers and grandmas, and then stealing their property, perhaps you deserve to follow Muhammad until you are judged by the very Son of God you deny.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

If you are a follower of Muhammad, and his stand-alone 7th century religion, why don't you at least read the Gospel  to learn about the love of the ONE true God YHWH - as so beautifully expressed through His Messiah - and whose people have followed Him through two covenants for 3500 years, through ALL of His prophets and witnesses as revealed in His 1600 year record.

Muhammad challenged....

Sura 2.23 And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true.

1 John 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

John 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

To those that have been so conspicuously and heinously deceived by THE  false prophet Muhammad, haven't you known in your heart for quite some time that something is very wrong, with the STAND-ALONE 7th century "religion" of your false "prophet" Muhammad? Jesus can fix that hole in your heart, and fill the emptiness that comes, from praying in the "vain repetitions of the heathen" while prostrating yourself before the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca.

Have you ever even read the Gospel? There is even a YouTube movie "The Gospel of John" available at the link in the "Show more" drop-down menu just under this video.

Your ETERNAL LIFE hangs in the balance.

1 John 2:22 .... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father.....

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

To those so sorely deceived by Muhammad, why not ask Jesus to come into your heart and life today, like your former brethren, whose testimonies you can view on the muslims4jesus YouTube channel?

Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

May Jesus bless you and lead you to His truth - to THE TRUTH. All you have to do is honestly and sincerely ask Him to.

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Re: Ishmael's Children of the Flesh
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 08:31:15 AM »
This site says Esau "was a murderer, rapist and glutton"
http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/195,132973/Why-did-Esau-so-desperately-want-Isaacs-blessings.html

This one details the murder
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/5846-esau
"Esau, lying in wait, pounced on the king, who was unaware of his proximity, and, drawing his sword, cut off the king's head."

Esau was "the Cause of Isaac's Blindness."

"...and then sold his birthright; indulging in blasphemous speeches (Gen. R. lxiii.; Pes. 22b) and in denials of immortality (Targ. Pseudo-Jon. l.c.) and of God and the resurrection; so that he figures in tradition as one of the three great atheists (Tan., Toledot, 24; Sanh. 101b)."

"Esau had won the affection of his father by lying words (Targ. Pseudo-Jon. to Gen. xxv. 28)."

"Esau was a ne'er-do-well (ib.; "a true progeny of the serpent," Zohar),"

Like Muhammad's unproductive followers, particularly those parasitizing western welfare states, in Europe?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2852.0

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live... The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities... but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa... and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome." - by Sir Winston Churchill - The River War, Vol. II, pp. 248-50, London; Longman, Green & Co., 1899