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« on: February 01, 2009, 11:36:46 AM »
[[[As salaam alaihkum (May Gods peace and blessings be upon you) Pete. http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/Muhammad_Bible.HTM I could keep on going about the prophesies of the prophet Mohammed (sws) in the Bible but it would take too long .........]]]

Can you find a few of them explored here? Spirit of truth? Comforter?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=33.0

If you have more I would appreciate having them to explore. Why not join me in the forum?

[[[...........so I suggest you take a look yourself at the website... Also, many Jews would back my claim that Mohammed (sws) is prophesied in the Torah.......]]]

If they back that claim they are not Jews. They are Mohammedans.

[[[[..... and that Moses, Abraham and Moses are MUSLIMS!!!......]]]

Mohammed was a 6th century come-lately reprobate false prophet.
THE false prophet:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/leopard_bear_lion_beast.htm

[[[[....... Read all my replies to your comments......]]]

They don't even make sense. You claim that the beast of the Christian bible is the whole subject of the Christian bible. Do you see how preposterous that is?

[[[[...... Also http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PWvMJuHJ1fI ..... Proof of the Jewish and Muslim friendship.......]]]

Don't be silly. A hysterical man is proof of nothing.
Islam has warred against Jews from the time they didn't buy Mohammed's bull and embarrassed him. Even before he picked up the sword.
Here is Islam:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

And it's rotted fruit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZHWhsc7wvg

[[[..... and the stereotype that we hate each other is untrue.]]]

Regenerate Jews don't hate Muslims, but Muslims have hated Jews for 1400 years as evidenced by your own books.

Islam could use a good representative in the forum.
I have never banned a single post or thread. You are free to defend Mohammed and his record.
But an organized conversation is something that Muslims generally loathe because they can't run and hide the way they can in the 500 character YouTube format.
Why not give it a try?
You can log in with any user ID at all, without exposing your YouTube ID.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=12.0

Come show me my error.
May God bless you and lead you to the truth, my friend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc

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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2009, 11:37:30 AM »
[[[I hope that you will stop worshipping the 66 BEAST and start to worship the one true God soon as well. As salaam alaihkum.]]]

You actually repeated it! I will copy and paste if in my classic archives. Thanks!
Meanwhile your inherited false prophet's cowardice remains.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=12.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZHWhsc7wvg

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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2009, 11:38:29 AM »
[[[Sorry I meant I hope you stop worshipping the 666 BEAST!]]]

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, THE FOURTH BEAST shall be THE FOURTH KINGDOM upon earth,...
Broad agreement among Christians and Jews:

lion = babylon = Iraq
bear = medo-persia = Iran
leopard = greece = Syria/Lebanon

John tells us:
Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a LEOPARD, and his feet were as [the feet] of a BEAR, and his mouth as the mouth of a LION: and the dragon gave him his power, and his SEAT, and great authority.

The Islamic empire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dejfJNF2_s

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2009, 11:40:59 AM »
[[[Continue the debate we were having, http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vMO414REf2k.........]]]

But you never answered, to my answers, to your questions.
You flush them to successive pages, run away, and blather on.
What about the Greek term translated as "miracles" that perfectly fits Mohammed, etc, etc.?

Why the cowardice? You can always copy and paste anything from the forum into the YouTube. Indeed a link to a fuller explanation that others can go to.
But you are a coward in your false prophet's mold.

Tell you what. I will copy and paste our entire exchange, so far, into the forum and then we can go from there and really hold each other accountable instead of a blizzard of disappearing comments.
Would that be OK? Will you join me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE3Lpiv9kO8

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2009, 11:41:38 AM »
I posted a thread regarding Ishmael the bastard son of Abraham with Sarah's maid:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=238.0

[[[Your using the Bible to prove your claims! Your evidence is sketchy and not even solid! I can use the Bible to prove that the Christian Jesus is the 666 beast!]]]

How do you go about using the New Testament to testify against itself?
I showed you who the beast is. In case you missed it I attached it.
If you prefer a text version click here:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_beast.htm

[[[ I can use the Torah, Bible or Quran to prove my claims and also my evidence is solid! You can only use the Bible and the evidence is not very good.]]]]

The Quran is a 23 year record of a 6th century reprobate. It is the best testament against itself:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=96.0

[[[ I can use your own holy book to prove you worship the 666 beast!]]]

Show me. I am copy and pasting these PMs into the forum.

[[[ Use the Quran to prove Islam is the 666 beast.]]]

Mohammed's phony moon God (Satan) curses Christians and Jews for openers:

Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

The perfect OPPOSITE. Even curses Christians and Jews!

[[[[ I can't even use the Torah against us, which is the only 3rd party book out of the three.]]]

The Old Testament and New Testament combine to specifically condemn Mohammed as THE false prophet and Islam as the beast of Revelation 13.
Daniel defined the term "beast" when used in the context of a prophetic dream or vision as discussed in the attached.
But you won't even watch it, will you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dejfJNF2_s

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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009, 11:47:34 AM »
[[[Sorry, I was meant to say you can not even use the Torah against us. Watch the Zeitgeist Movie ant the Arrivals, its on youtube! Wake up to the truth, wake up to Islam! Watch them, I will watch your videos, then we will continue our debate around the video, yours and mine.]]]

Wake up to the truth of A SINGLE 6th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament?
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZHWhsc7wvg

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 07:41:18 AM »
[[[[Yes off course he is the exact opposite. The Christian Jesus is the 666 beast!!!! The prophet Mohammed is the final and the greatest of all goods prophets. Enjoy your time in hell my friend.]]]

So then you choose to reject Jesus and ALL of the prophets and apostles and witnesses of the New Testament's new covenant, and the 1600 year record of the revelation of God to mankind, for A SINGLE 6th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief false prophet.

And you go to where ........ Mohammed's heaven?

Did you ever read the description? Rivers and fountains of running water, shade from the sun, relief from the cold nights and blistering days (like Mohammed's desert), gardens with water running under them, perpetually fresh youth waiting on you, serving you in silver cups, crystal goblets, as you lounge in elevated couches dressed in silk, clustered plantains, fruits always in season - with none forbidden, hanging their fruit with "humility", rivers of wine AND ALL THE CHICKEN YOU CAN EAT?
All that plus multiple virgin sex partners to defile!

It is conspicuously water, water, water. Now did it ever occur to you that Mohammed's heaven is composed of all of the things that his desert environment lacked?
Does shade appeal to an Alaskan? Chicken to a vegetarian?

Why not just move to California? You can have it all except the virgins!

Isn't it obvious to you that Mohammed might have designed his heaven and hell to appeal to a bunch of illiterate, 40 IQ, desert dwelling Bedouins?
A means keep them sober, but willing to commit suicide in battle, to hasten their departure so they could screw their big eyed virgins and drink from rivers of wine in heaven?
While on this earth keeping them in the game, by encouraging them to enslave and sexually violate women as young as 9 years old, that are taken as spoils of war?

And you bet your ETERNAL LIFE on a single guy like that?
I'm not making this stuff up. Don't take my word for it.
Read sura 56. You can find it online.
Search - USC quran - for 3 english translations. Try this link:

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/056.qmt.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZHWhsc7wvg

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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2009, 07:08:30 AM »
What? You had enough? Is your faith being tested? Are you scared that you may be coming to realize the truth that your Jesus is the 666 beast and that Islam is the only truth, the only way of life (religion) acceptable to the one true God!
The only path your on is to hell!!!!!! How can you expect to go to heaven when you worship the 666 beast. According to the Bible the 66b beast will be a man who claims to be a prophet then claims to be god. Thats not Mahdi, that sounds more like and is the christian JESUS! You worship the 666 beast!
The Torah came before the Bible. Moses, Abraham and Jesus were born to the tribe of Judah (Jews). Jews do not believe that the Devil is an Angel. They do not believe that Jesus is their King nor that he is God or the son of God! So I do not know what religion or way life you are following because it is not of Moses, Abraham or Jesus! Oh yes, I know. Its the religion of the 666 beats! If the Jews are not a religion but a tribe, then what way of life or religion did Moses, Abraham or Jesus follow? Well considering they where born to the tribe of Judah, a member of the tribe should know! My Jewish friend said from his own mouth that ''JESUS, MOSES AND ABRAHAM WHERE MUSLIM''. Its not good to see that your faith in the 666 beast is growing stronger and stronger but oh well! I think you will find that the real Jesus will wipe your 666 beast out! They belief in the Sun of God aka Mithra or Horus originated from ancient Egypt, then Greece and Rome. That is your savour, your Lord the 666 beast! Not only that, your blind to see that you are your own DEVIL!! ''that is in the image of God, not the son of GOD or God in human form''.... But I would not but much faith in that corrupt book ''The Bible''. As you mentioned yesterday, if the Bible was not corrupt then the Old testament would be the same as the Torah. Which it is not, as I mentioned, the Torah states that Angels do not have freewill so they can not fall. The Torah also states that the devil is not an Angel. This alone shows that the Bible is not the word of God and that it is corrupt. The pagan God Mithra aka Horus will die for mankinds sins and is our so called risen saviour! Connect the dots, the pagan God Horus also known as Mithra is the Christian Jesus. The 12 disiple represent the 12 astrological signs. The cross is a sword because the Pagans who created your religion are blood thirsty warriors. The pagan God is also known as the SUN OF GOD!!!! The tribe of Judah (Jews) were taught how to live righteously by the holy prophets Moses & Abraham. This way of life is Islam! The Jews great each other by shalom Muslims by Salaam. They both mean the same. Jews each Kosher meat, Muslims eat Halal. Both are the same and can be eaten by both types of meat can be eaten by both parties. Muslims & Jews both fast at the same time.. ect, ect, the list goes on. Have you gone quiet again? They also do not believe that the Devil is an Angel nor that Angels have freewill. Or that the Messiah will be their King or he will be the son (sun) of God or God in human form. So explain to me how the Old Testament and Torah are the same. So how can foe your faith in the 666 Beast remain and grow stronger! HOW????

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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 07:11:58 AM »
I think that you are an uneducated ignorant red neck.If you know history then you will know that the belief of the Christian Jesus being the sun of God and the Christian religion is pagan. The Christian Jesus is known in pagan belief as the Sun of God. Horus or even as Mithra. As yo will be aware that the REAL Jesus was born to the tribe of Judah. This statement below was written by a Jew.... Watch the Zeitgeist movie....... Also, every claim your making about Islam and Mohammed (sws) is false and has no logic or truth behind it.
1) A trial for a capital crime has to be heard during the day- the trial in the gospels happens at night
2) A trial for a capital crime in Jerusalem could only be heard in the Chamber of Stone in the Temple- the trial in the gospels takes place in a private home
3) A full Sanhedrin of 70 Judges heard capital crimes in Jerusalem- in the gospels only a few judges are present.
4) Two witnesses who are certain and cannot contradict each other are needed. If they are not certain or contradict each other they are put on trial! - in the gospels the witnesses arrive late in the trial and are uncertain.
5) The person has to be warned by the witnesses IMMEDIATELY before the crime that they are engaging in a capital offense- no warnings are given in the gospels and the witnesees aren't even present when the trial starts!
6) The accused has to have acknowledged the warning and still continued to do the crime in front of the two people that warned him- in the gospels no warning or acknowledgement of warning is ever given
6) If somebody is not convicted by a Sanhedrin- it is FORBIDDEN to hand them over to secualr authorities.
7) Crucifixion was a Roman punishment- it was NEVER used by Jews
8) Pontius Pilates was an absolute ruler who was exceptionally cruel- so much so that he was removed from power for excessive cruelty by the Roman government. (one wonders at how bad he must have been to offend the sensibilities of people who saw rape, killing children and torture as valid tools of politics!) There is no reason for him to agree to anything from a powerless group of Jews who had no means of getting him to do anything at all! What the gospel account does make sense as, is an attempt to deflect the blame from the Roman's they wanted to convert onto the Jews who had rejected the attempt by a new religion to convert them!

You have your religion and I have mine, I sincerely hope you enjoy your time in hell with the 666 beast!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2009, 07:37:21 AM »
What? You had enough? Is your faith being tested? Are you scared that you may be coming to realize the truth that your Jesus is the 666 beast and that Islam is the only truth, the only way of life (religion) acceptable to the one true God!
The only path your on is to hell!!!!!!

Welcome to the forum King!
I will address the rest of your last two posts after we discuss your premise.

Your premise seems to suggest that the New Testament, that is about the new covenant we are given through Jesus Christ - that is about Jesus Christ Himself - then goes on to condemn Jesus Christ - the only perfect human in history as Muslims agree - as the "beast" of Revelation 13.
Surely I'm misunderstanding.

Here is a thread wherein that beast is explained through a sound hermeneutic exercise:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=112.0

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam__quran_and_666.htm

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 02:19:30 PM »
I can not deny the general belief that Muslims hold about Christians, which is that they are kind hearted people and known for their compassion. I know according to Christianity that the 666 beast will be a man that claims to be a prophet then claims to be God. Islam has their belief in the 666 beast (anti-christ), Muslims know him as Dajjal. He will have three statuses, he will be a man who at first claims to be a King then a prophet & then God. As you will be able to see, the Dajjal and the 666 beast are very similar or if not the same person. Apart from the first status of him claiming to be a King. In more depth, the Dajjal will claim to be the ''King'' of the Jews. The prophet he will claim to be, will be the Messiah. The dajjal is ''The false Messiah (Jesus)''. Finally he will claim to be God, God in human form. I have researched the matter and the Dajjal is the Christian jesus. As you know, the Christian Jesus claims to the King of the Jews, also the messiah and the son of God (God in human form). This is why I believe that the Christian Jesus is the 666 beast (Dajjal). I know this because according to Judaism, the Messiah will not be their King nor will he be the son of God (God in Human form). The anti-christ (Dajjal) will be in three forms but I'm only aware of two, in human form & a system. The description I have just given of Dajjal was of him in human form (King, Prophet and God). The Gog created Christianity. The Gog & Mog are a part of the anti-christ if you look it up in the Bible. If you look up the Gog in the Torah, Bible and Quran you will come to find that they are known in the modern world as the freemasons & Illuminate ect.. Their history is ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome and now with most of the modern governments, including the Muslims governments. This is why you will see such acts as capital punishment in Muslim countries which is not Islamic. The Dajjal will have one eye, this is a sign of him and his system. If you look at the back of the American dollar bill, you will find the one eyes on top of a pyramid and written underneath ''novus sector orda'', which means ''new world order''. This is the anti-christ (Dajjal) system I am talking about. This symbol can be found every where if you pay attention. The freemasons and co are setting up the system for the anti-christ (Dajjal). The Dajjal in pagan belief is know as Mithra or Horus also known as the Sun of God. As you will be able to tell, its is the same as the Christian belief in the Son of God... To be continued... Let me know if you want to know any more in depth knowledge and I will try and help. I am very tired and wanting to go to bed... As salaam alaikum (may Gods peace and blessings be upon you)..

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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 04:09:08 PM »
I will address this post too, but you didn't really answer the question. Maybe I am laboring under a misunderstanding.
You keep citing the Quran. Where in the Quran is there a reference to 666?

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You're saying that the New Testament of which Jesus is the whole subject warns us that Jesus is the beast?
Do you belong to some sort of offshoot Islamic cult?

Muslims I have run into believe Jesus is the Messiah.
Are you saying that the Messiah - the most important element in the Old or New Testament - is the beast?

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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2009, 05:27:14 AM »

In Islam we call the beast ''Dajjal''. Dajjal is not in the Quran but in the hadith (the sayings and doings) of the prophet Mohammed (sws). No I am not a member of an Islamic cult. I am a sunni Muslim. I do as all Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet, only a prophet and not God. In particular he was the Messiah, a special prophet. I always refer to the Christian Jesus as the ''Christian Jesus'' and the Muslim Jesus as the ''REAL Jesus''. The Christian Jesus and the Muslim Jesus are two different people. The Christian Jesus is trying to disguise himself as the the Muslim Jesus aka the REAL Jesus (The Messiah). Most educated Muslims will agree with me that the Christian Jesus is not the real Jesus and is the 666 beast aka Dajjal.

One of the biggest Islamic preachers in the united states of America is Sheikh Hamza Yusuf. I am sure that you would of heard of him. He agrees with me that the Christian Jesus is the pagan SUN of God ''Mithra or Horus'' aka the 666 beast (Dajjal). 

Watch his full lecture on youtube about the Dajjal and how he is the Christian Jesus on you tube: Part 1: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aZm01kQgwI4  Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PhzQN2nGmY&feature=related  Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9FI0cORj7M&feature=related  Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=822GFBUqRvo&feature=related  Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSnnOGNNI0c&feature=related  Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gXITP_a6aA&feature=related  Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4jPmZDX_Mw&feature=related  Part 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItOFfdcyrik&feature=related  Part 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX_UPxB4knU&feature=related  Part 10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ef7gQf9igU&feature=related  Part 11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K1TgAkv3G4&feature=related  Part 12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXD4ivMbicQ&feature=related

Another video linking the Christian Jesus with the pagan son God Mithra is the Zeitgeist Movie: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

I was discussing this topic with another Christian the other day and they said ''we'll if you claim that our Jesus is the Sun of God Mithra then you should know considering Allah is the moon God''. My response was that It specifically says in the Holy Quran not to worship the Sun or the Moon.

Holy Quran, Surah (Chapter) 41.37


YUSUFALI: Among His Signs are the Night and the Day, and the Sun and the Moon. Do not prostrate to the sun and the moon, but prostrate to Allah, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve.

I also pointed out that the REAL Jesus spoke the Aramaic language, even according to Christianity. The word for God in Aramaic is ''AaLaH''. So I went on to say, did the REAL Jesus worship God or the Moon?? The REAL Jesus or even the Christian Jesus (Dajjal aka 666 beast) could surely of not worshiped the Moon God ''AaLaH''?..... The English word for God is obviously ''God'' and the Arabic word for God is ''Allah''. Arabic speaking Christians call God Allah. They are both the same, with the same meanings but in different languages.

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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2009, 05:13:30 PM »
Most educated Muslims will agree with me that the Christian Jesus is not the real Jesus and is the 666 beast aka Dajjal.
But surely you can see how preposterous your idea is. The New Testament and ALL of the prophets, disciples, and apostles that you are required to reject, is the same place that the concept of the number 666 comes from.

Can you briefly suspend your spamming and address this point that I have repeated 3 times now so I can start addressing your past posts before you spam some more. The reason we are here is for dialogue.

The 666 concept comes from the book that you reject. How does that make any sense? It's oxymoronic.

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 07:12:54 AM »
The 666 beast is a Biblical concept. The Islamic anti-christ is known as Dajjal. The 666 beast is the same person or thing as the Dajjal. No, I am not required to reject any of Gods prophets, I am only going to reject the 666 beast aka the Christian Jesus. Neither am I very bothered about rejecting the disciples Jesus had according to Christianity. I will now show you the similarities between the Sun of God Mithra and the Christian concept of Jesus (the Son of God). The Mithraic God (the Sun of God) was born on December 25th. The Christian Jesus being the pagan Sun God is why Christians worship on SUNday, not SONday. Dajjal is also a Sun God. Mithra is believed to be able to give life and resurrect. Mithra is also believed to die for the sins of mankind. Mithra dying for the sins of mankind was his purpose, it was his act. He also has twelve disciples. They represent the twelve astrological (Horoscope) signs. Including the twelve disciples and the Christian Jesus aka Mithra (Dajjal aka the 666 beast) gives you the number 13. 13 in Christianity is the Devils number. Also the mother of Mithra was worshipped. In Islam we believe Mary, the mother of the REAL Jesus to be the most pious women who will ever live. But we don not worship her like Christians worship Mary. Muslims only worship the one and only God (Allah).

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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2009, 10:58:54 AM »
The 666 beast is a Biblical concept.

But you reject the bible. You reject ALL of the New Testament prophets and apostles. So how can you turn around and pluck the number 666 out of it as if it rejects itself. Absolutely preposterous.
"The bible condemns itself with the number 666".
Jesus, the Messiah, is the beast.
Absolutely mad.

The Islamic anti-christ is known as Dajjal. The 666 beast is the same person or thing as the Dajjal.

No it isn't. There is lots of phony doctrine out there.
Of the 4 verses that use the term antichrist, not a single one indicates an individual.
Antichrist is the spirit that lives in each person that rejects the Son of God. You are an antichrist.
Discuss that on it's own thread:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=252.0
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/antichrist.htm

No, I am not required to reject any of Gods prophets,......

You are required to reject ALL of God's prophets to follow the antichrist Mohammed.
All of the New Testament prophets, and the WHOLE SUBJECT of it, is Jesus life, crucifixion, death and resurrection.
His shed blood. YOU MUST REJECT THEM ALL for your SINGLE STAND-ALONE false prophet.
And Old Testament prophets like Isaiah:
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
And Moses:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=219.0
And all the rest of the Old Testament prophets.

.... I am only going to reject the 666 beast aka the Christian Jesus.

The most important prophet. The only begotten Son of God. Through Old Testament prophecy and New Testament fulfillment. Rejecting the blood that would save you.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=54.0

Neither am I very bothered about rejecting the disciples Jesus had according to Christianity.

EXACTLY. You are required to to follow Mohammed. You denied it in your third sentence above.

I will now show you the similarities between the Sun of God Mithra and the Christian concept of Jesus (the Son of God). The Mithraic God (the Sun of God) was born on December 25th. The Christian Jesus being the pagan Sun God is why Christians worship on SUNday, not SONday.

Constantine is the reason for that. He was a converted pagan and exerted considerable pagan influence on the ecclesia in the third century. Some question his conversion. But the Word of God is true, in spite of Constantine.
Many Christians worship on the Jewish Sabbath - Saturday. God doesn't condemn us for getting the day wrong.

Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Muslims parade around pretending to have something to do with the old covenant God had with His people, the Jews, but you don't even worship on Saturday.
No, my friend, Mohammedanism is a STAND-ALONE 6th century religion recited by a 6th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

Dajjal is also a Sun God. Mithra is believed to be able to give life and resurrect. Mithra is also believed to die for the sins of mankind. Mithra dying for the sins of mankind was his purpose, it was his act. He also has twelve disciples. They represent the twelve astrological (Horoscope) signs. Including the twelve disciples and the Christian Jesus aka Mithra (Dajjal aka the 666 beast) gives you the number 13. 13 in Christianity is the Devils number.

Please show me where.

Also the mother of Mithra was worshipped. In Islam we believe Mary, the mother of the REAL Jesus to be the most pious women who will ever live.

Mohammed got his Mary worship from Roman Catholicism. He spent time with a defrocked priest.
Mary was simply chosen to be the vessel.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=16.msg184#msg184
Even Mary knew she needed a Savior:
Luk 1:46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, 47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
But you reject the blood that would save you.

But we don not worship her like Christians worship Mary.

Christians don't worship Mary. Roman Catholics do. The same guy that kissed the Quran - the very book that is full of blasphemy against the Jesus the pope is deluded into believing he serves.

Muslims only worship the one and only God (Allah).

God's name is YHWH - Yahweh.
Translated into English - "I AM".
Allah does not mean I AM in Arabic.
Allah is the pagan supreme rock god deity from the Kabba.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkrgObVwTSc

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Re: chat with King-panther
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2009, 11:09:15 AM »
I think that you are an uneducated ignorant red neck.If you know history then you will know that the belief of the Christian Jesus being the sun of God and the Christian religion is pagan. The Christian Jesus is known in pagan belief as the Sun of God. Horus or even as Mithra. As yo will be aware that the REAL Jesus was born to the tribe of Judah. This statement below was written by a Jew.... Watch the Zeitgeist movie....... Also, every claim your making about Islam and Mohammed (sws) is false and has no logic or truth behind it.
1) A trial for a capital crime has to be heard during the day- the trial in the gospels happens at night
2) A trial for a capital crime in Jerusalem could only be heard in the Chamber of Stone in the Temple- the trial in the gospels takes place in a private home
3) A full Sanhedrin of 70 Judges heard capital crimes in Jerusalem- in the gospels only a few judges are present.
4) Two witnesses who are certain and cannot contradict each other are needed. If they are not certain or contradict each other they are put on trial! - in the gospels the witnesses arrive late in the trial and are uncertain.
5) The person has to be warned by the witnesses IMMEDIATELY before the crime that they are engaging in a capital offense- no warnings are given in the gospels and the witnesees aren't even present when the trial starts!
6) The accused has to have acknowledged the warning and still continued to do the crime in front of the two people that warned him- in the gospels no warning or acknowledgement of warning is ever given
6) If somebody is not convicted by a Sanhedrin- it is FORBIDDEN to hand them over to secualr authorities.
7) Crucifixion was a Roman punishment- it was NEVER used by Jews
8) Pontius Pilates was an absolute ruler who was exceptionally cruel- so much so that he was removed from power for excessive cruelty by the Roman government. (one wonders at how bad he must have been to offend the sensibilities of people who saw rape, killing children and torture as valid tools of politics!) There is no reason for him to agree to anything from a powerless group of Jews who had no means of getting him to do anything at all! What the gospel account does make sense as, is an attempt to deflect the blame from the Roman's they wanted to convert onto the Jews who had rejected the attempt by a new religion to convert them!

You have your religion and I have mine, I sincerely hope you enjoy your time in hell with the 666 beast!!!!


If the Jews you quote are saying that is wasn't Jews that killed Jesus I agree. But it wasn't the Romans either.
It was the sinful nature of mankind that killed Jesus. It was you and I that killed Jesus, my friend.

Rev 13:8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.

Hbr 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.