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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2011, 07:42:05 AM »
Ever PMs on 9-11. All replies in this post, are quoted in their entirety in the next post, so you can skip this one.

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You mean the goal Theodor Herzl had.
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Once again the whole ante-semite thingt was a joke. Seems you have quite the rep all over youtube for not ever giving an answer to the question given to you. As I said before this is not one persons channel. Just as you copy and paste the same things over and over for "read-only participants" mostly Muslim. We work this channel and varios others to spread truth. Another point missed, I didn't link you to Scoffield. I was referring to why I dont trust reference Bibles. Nazi's are anti-Zionists, huh? Wow that's quite a stretch. So much info is around about the Zionist Jews that ran Hitler's concentration camps. See how the name Nazi was formed. One hint, it was NA at first. Rather than worry about my focus look into the Theodor Herzl-like belief structure you have fallen into. Talmudic Jews are the true Nazi's my good friend.. And please if you never look into anything else I give you, look into the story of the U.S.S. Liberty and ask yourself why the Israeli's aboard that plane recieved awards at home.
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I went to your forum. It was even more proof to us of your ego stroking. I lump all Jews into that category by saying Talmudic Jews, huh. Never considered them dirty apes. Thanks for the attempt at putting words in my mouth though. What you call Islamic propaganda that I look into comes mostly from Christians and ex-Zionists.I am thinking you have never enlisted and went over into the Middle East. You will see protesters with signs against Zionism but uplifting Judaism. When I askedabout Obama, you fired back about why he was donning a Muslim garb my point exactly. He doesnt tell the truth. If Mr. Bush sympathized with the Jews so much why did he's family do business with the Bin-Ladens?
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For one that talks on replacement theology so much. You work replacement arguements redundanly. Those things about Ben-Yossef i mentioned you went right back to the preterist thing. Someone in the psychiatrac fied could easily have a heyday with you might good friend. I guess you will use the preterist question after this. Why would Netanyahu say, "We have just about squeezed out Hungry and Poland financially. Once we have dried up the goyim they can blow of the map as far as I'm concerned." Or is that anti-semitism on my part or Islamic propanda from Maa-riv?

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2011, 07:43:24 AM »
[[[[You mean the goal Theodor Herzl had.]]]]]

I see. So Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at all. It was a Jew that wanted to exterminate the Jews!

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2011, 07:43:39 AM »
[[[[Once again the whole ante-semite thingt was a joke. Seems you have quite the rep all over youtube for not ever giving an answer to the question given to you.]]]]

I'm so flattered! I didn't know I had a YouTube reputation!
As for your accusation, please be more specific.
The last conversation I had before you was with TheAlsalaam who gave me 22 points, each of which I answered one by one, even splitting some into additional parts.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11248#msg11248

You can see from the copy and pasted chat that he is lying about my not answering, but then all of Muhammad's followers are necessarily liars.

1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

Yet he kept insisting I didn't answer him even though most of his points I had previously answered even multiple times. If you will review the thread I think you will find I couldn't have done a more thorough job.

If you review our chat I believe you will find I did the same there. If not please tell me which point I didn't address and I would be happy to. Surely you aren't expecting me to answer to the way over-the-top preposterous nonsense that you can't even support yourself.

[[[[As I said before this is not one persons channel. Just as you copy and paste the same things over and over for "read-only participants" mostly Muslim. We work this channel and varios others to spread truth. Another point missed, I didn't link you to Scoffield. I was referring to why I dont trust reference Bibles. Nazi's are anti-Zionists, huh? Wow that's quite a stretch.]]]]

Nazi's not only want the Jews out of Zion, they want Jews out of the whole world. They want to EXTERMINATE Jews. Now why don't you take a moment and contemplate who you are defending.

[[[[So much info is around about the Zionist Jews that ran Hitler's concentration camps.]]]]

It's true the Nazis pressed lots of Jews into their service in the camps. Can you possibly be so naive as to not understand that some people are so afraid of dying that they would do anything to keep from being tortured or executed?

[[[[See how the name Nazi was formed. One hint, it was NA at first. Rather than worry about my focus look into the Theodor Herzl-like belief structure you have fallen into. Talmudic Jews are the true Nazi's my good friend..]]]]

With your evermore surprising defense of Nazis I am having trouble understanding. Are you saying that you are on the side of the Nazis in WWII?

[[[[And please if you never look into anything else I give you, look into the story of the U.S.S. Liberty and ask yourself why the Israeli's aboard that plane recieved awards at home.]]]]

The answer of course is because of the spectacular job Israeli pilots did of vanquishing Israel's enemy during the 6 day war. That enemy being Islam, which has been at war against the non-Islamic world for 1400 years.

Perhaps you could explain what you believe Israel's motivation would have been, behind that friendly fire incident, having been by intent.

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2011, 07:51:18 AM »
[[[[I went to your forum. It was even more proof to us of your ego stroking. I lump all Jews into that category by saying Talmudic Jews, huh. Never considered them dirty apes.]]]]

You missed the point again. The point I was making that that you judge ALL Jews as though they were the same, regardless of the condition of an individual's heart.
In my opinion, by extension, you have therefore lumped yourself into a group of Gentiles, that includes all Gentiles, regardless of the condition of their hearts.

[[[Thanks for the attempt at putting words in my mouth though. What you call Islamic propaganda that I look into comes mostly from Christians and ex-Zionists. I am thinking you have never enlisted and went over into the Middle East.]]]]

Vietnam was the flavor of the day when I was eligible for military service, and no, I didn't enlist.

[[[[You will see protesters with signs against Zionism but uplifting Judaism.]]]]

I hadn't yet seen quite the extent of self-indoctrination as I have with you. Seems you base your world opinion, on the actions of individuals that you wish represented the whole. You see a protest sign that confirms what you are predisposed to believe, and voila! That must mean it represents all members of a particular group that you are stereotyping and generalizing.

[[[[When I askedabout Obama, you fired back about why he was donning a Muslim garb my point exactly. He doesnt tell the truth. If Mr. Bush sympathized with the Jews so much why did he's family do business with the Bin-Ladens?]]]]]

Seems your focus is on the flesh, and this world.
ALL kingdoms of the world have been Satan's legal possession ever since Adam's fall. The U.S. did pretty well, right up until our once-great republic divorced itself from God in 1947.
I am engaged preaching Christ crucified to 1.5 billion people that are compelled the believe the EXACT OPPOSITE by the false prophet Muhammad and his adopted and adapted Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship rituals.

sent with THE NAME ALLAH - MOON GOD? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slLBam06iyg

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2011, 07:52:50 AM »
[[[[For one that talks on replacement theology so much. You work replacement arguements redundanly. Those things about Ben-Yossef i mentioned you went right back to the preterist thing.]]]]

Preterism is the source of replacement theology. It is the source of such as Roman church murder of Jews, and an excuse for those like Hitler and skinheads. Perterism and replacement theology go hand in hand.

I deal in broad questions. When I asked you who you believe THE false prophet of the book of Revelation was/is, you didn't reply. Did you miss the question?

[[[[Someone in the psychiatrac fied could easily have a heyday with you might good friend. I guess you will use the preterist question after this. Why would Netanyahu say, "We have just about squeezed out Hungry and Poland financially. Once we have dried up the goyim they can blow of the map as far as I'm concerned." Or is that anti-semitism on my part or Islamic propanda from Maa-riv?]]]]

Why don't you being by including sources for the claims like this Netanyahu you make? I didn't have any luck googling this quote.

JIHAD! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9FYYo5EINU

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2011, 07:53:22 AM »
I'll look into Ben-Yossef today.

[[[[See Ben-Yossef talk about "war now" instead of "peace now". Look into Eustace Mullins or Benjamin Freedman. What about the five Israelis caught on 911 that were "only there to document the event." When American media outlets showed Palestinians dancing on 911 German media outlets showed from a different angle they were being teased with pie and candy.]]]]]

I was so distracted by your suggestion that the Palestinians were dancing on 9-11 because of being "teased with pie and candy" that I didn't revisit the prior sentence.
Though considering Iran's centrifuges and the rest of what is going on over there, it wouldn't be a surprise that some in Israel would want to go to war. The only reason they aren't under attack now, besides the thousands of random katyusha rockets raining down on them, is because their neighbors are too cowardly.

It's too bad the U.S. doesn't understand the weapons God gave us to fight this 1400 year long war of Islam vs the non-islamic war, as I believe leafleting with the truth could mitigate matters fairly quickly.

MOHAMMED'S NIGHT JOURNEY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twwVjrhagL0

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2011, 07:56:33 AM »
Please answer the following.
Do you understand that Muhammad declared the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and thus 1.5 billion of the false prophet Muhammad's followers are required to DENY the crucifixion and blood that would save them as an article of their faith in Muhammad?
Please DO NOT OBFUSCATE in answer.

Islam DENIES the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCE_sti-uZc

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2011, 07:59:16 AM »
Do you understand that according to Islam's own books, Muhammad was a mass murdering, female prisoner raping, thief?

http://www.petewaldo.com/jihad.htm

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2011, 08:04:55 AM »
Please let me correct that.

Do you understand that according to Islam's own books, the false prophet Muhammad IS REVEALED AS a mass murdering, female prisoner raping, thief?

http://www.petewaldo.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2011, 08:20:04 AM »
It's too bad the U.S. doesn't understand the weapons God gave us to fight this 1400 year long war of Islam vs the non-islamic war, as I believe leafleting with the truth could mitigate matters fairly quickly.

But meant to write

It's too bad the U.S. doesn't understand the weapons God gave us to fight this 1400 year long war of Islam vs the non-islamic WORLD, as I believe leafleting with the truth could mitigate matters fairly quickly.

Sent with "Muslims believe in Jesus and all the prophets." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kCxOGGM5w

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2011, 09:36:03 AM »
9-12 he replied with

C'mon man nine messages? I don't have the time nor do do i care about this arguement.

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2011, 09:37:02 AM »
9-12

Then please just indulge me by answering the content of these two
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Please answer the following.
Do you understand that Muhammad declared the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and thus 1.5 billion of the false prophet Muhammad's followers are required to DENY the crucifixion and blood that would save them as an article of their faith in Muhammad?
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Do you understand that according to Islam's own books, Muhammad was a mass murdering, female prisoner raping, thief?

http://www.petewaldo.com/jihad.htm

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2011, 12:25:06 PM »
9-12

Why would that matter so much to you if I do or don't understand?


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« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2011, 12:25:56 PM »
9-12

[[[[Why would that matter so much to you if I do or don't understand?]]]]

A lot of Christians are ignorant to those matters of fact.
If you had read the prior PM in which I asked it you would have seen that I asked you not to obfuscate because this is exactly the kind of answer I anticipated.

You raised a ton of points and facts that are apparently only known to you, to which I answered many, yet you claimed that I avoid answering. When I answer to yet more of your points one by one, rather than read them you reply

"C'mon man nine messages? I don't have the time nor do do i care about this arguement."

Surely you can see your own hypocrisy and false witness you bore against me.

The reason I wanted you to understand that Muslims must reject the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and follow a mass murdering, prisoner raping thief, is to make sure you knew that it was their side you have chosen, against the people who share the Old Testament of our scriptures with us.

There is no shortage of Muslims engaging in taqiyyah, that is Islamic subterfuge, that pose as Christians online. While they can go on and on, about this little detail or that little detail, or about what this or that person said, they run away when fundamentals are discussed. They cannot admit to these irrefutable matters of fact about Muhammad and his cult.

Why couldn't you have simply answered yes or no, to my Muslims having to reject the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and matter of fact that they follow a mass murdering, prisoner raping thief as Muhammad is revealed through their own books?

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2011, 01:04:48 PM »
Followed by a series of one line PMs with attached anti-zioinist videos, rather than answer to my replies. I will only copy and paste responsive posts from here on out.
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I sent you a few videos. And before you say it, no I do not solely based my opinions on videos I see on youtube. No one I know poses as Muslims on youtube. Though I must say many Israelis have been caught working youtube to sway American minds. My answer is clear. I don't look into Islam. What is strange is all the accusations you make toward Islam, they may be true they may be false, I for sure see these things out of Talmudic Jews and some of those thing out of Tuetonic Zionism that has infiltrated every religion.

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« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2011, 01:53:21 PM »
More obfuscation.
Perhaps if I rephrase and number the points you can stop obfuscating.

1. DO YOU AGREE that Muslims are compelled to believe the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel?

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus ... but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.

2. DO YOU AGREE that Muhammad is revealed through Islam's own books as a mass murdering, prisoner raping, thief?

Bukhari:V5B59N448 "They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sa'd to give the verdict. Sad said, 'I give my judgment that their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'"

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.

3. DO YOU AGREE that Muhammad and all of his followers ARE ANTICHRIST?

Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

1 John 2:22 .... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:...

If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2011, 01:55:56 PM »
9-12 Ever

Before I could give an answer to that I would have to know the time period Muhammed ordered the beheading of the Jews. Then I could go from there. Here is the former Israeli Prime Minister with some very special words.

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« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2011, 01:59:09 PM »
[[[[Before I could give an answer to that I would have to know the time period Muhammed ordered the beheading of the Jews. Then I could go from there. Here is the former Israeli Prime Minister with some very special words.]]]]]

Muhammad attacked and slaughtered the Banu Quraiza in 627. The Jews never struck a blow.
But what does WHEN Muhammad BEHEADED those innocent Jewish farm boys that had just reached puberty, and their dads and grandpas, then sexually enslaving their sisters, moms and grandmas, followed by stealing all their property, have to do with THE FACT THAT Muhammad DID ORDER THAT all the boys that had reached puberty along with all the men, be brought before him and beheaded?

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

Tabari VIII:38 "The Prophet selected for himself from among the Jewish women of the Qurayza, Rayhanah bt. Amr. She became his concubine. When he predeceased her, she was still in his possession. When the Messenger of Allah took her as a captive, she showed herself averse to Islam and insisted on Judaism."

http://www.petewaldo.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm

There were 3 numbered questions, but you can't do it, can you? Try it again.
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1. DO YOU AGREE that Muslims are compelled to believe the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel?

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus ... but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.

2. DO YOU AGREE that Muhammad is revealed through Islam's own books as a mass murdering, prisoner raping, thief?

Bukhari:V5B59N448 "They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sa'd to give the verdict. Sad said, 'I give my judgment that their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'"

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.

3. DO YOU AGREE that Muhammad and all of his followers ARE ANTICHRIST?

Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

1 John 2:22 .... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:...

If you don't agree please state the reason you don't agree.

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2011, 04:37:34 PM »
9-12

And once again I DON'T CARE. I'm only concerned with my spiritual life. Do you ever think maybe Surah 9:30 may mean that they profess these things with their mouth but do not act on it? Do you have a "shred of historical or archeological evidence" it really happened? You have said yourself Muhammed was a liar. I cannot stress to you how much I do not care. Instead of worring about something that may or may not have happened hundreds of years ago, look at whats going on now. Lets say Muhammed did order the beheading and it did happen. Its not so much different today that Israel orders the genocide of Palestinians. Lets say they did sleep with the captive women. Zionist soldiers have raped numerous Palestinian women and I can send you videos of them torturing children and it will stay in your mind forever if you have children of your own. Lets say Muhammed and his followers are antichrist. Any religion that denounces Christ as the returning Messiah would be of anti-christ spirit. I'm not justifying Islam I'm just saying the country you feel theolgically bound to support is no different than the religion you spend your life speaking against if its really that way. There are usurpers everwhere you look. But we can look around and see the end draws near and I'd rather spend my days in the reading of the Word of God and knowing the true enemy than worrying about if Islam is right on wrong. You have fallen into the trap of Tuetonic/Rothschild Zionism my friend. You're education and your media has you feeling theoligically bound to support terror and turning a blind eye when it hits home. The Bible says the antichrist will be loved more than God by many. We can't have prayer in school now and the Christian flag has been replaced by the Israeli flag in many schools. There signs out that say " Be American, Stand by Israel' yet no reference to God. We worry about Irans nuclear development and turn a blind eye to the fact that Israel has had almost 200 for quite some time. I can go on and on why I don't care to look into to Islam because I see Zionism as the biggest problem. Look into the videos I sent you and feel the sting of truth. And see if you can honestly tell me Zionism is not a worldwide problem at all.

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« Reply #44 on: September 12, 2011, 05:01:41 PM »
9-12

[[[[And once again I DON'T CARE.]]]]]

Yet just one PM ago you said "Before I could give an answer to that I would have to know the time period Muhammed ordered the beheading of the Jews. Then I could go from there."

As if the "time period" would determine whether beheading those innocent Jewish farm boys, and their dads and grandpas, was mass murder or not.
Then I gave you the date of the mass murder of the Banu Quraiza and now you still can't admit that it was mass murder. But, of course, I'm not surprised.

[[[I'm only concerned with my spiritual life.]]]]

I am desperate for 1.5 billion people that have been deceived by the false prophet, into rejecting the blood that would save them, because of their faith in Muhammad. That's 1.5 billion antichrists, according to the scriptures because they must reject that Jesus is the Son of God as an article of their faith in Muhammad.
Maybe someday you'll get called to be concerned with someone beyond yourself too!

[[[[Do you ever think maybe Surah 9:30 may mean that they profess these things with their mouth but do not act on it?]]]]]

I see. Follow a religion but ignore it. Makes perfect sense doesn't it?

Besides which, when a Muslim confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, he has committed the MOST EGREGIOUS AND ONLY UNPARDONABLE SIN, in Muhammad's 7th century cult. Yet in scripture we find that condemned again....

1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

But hey, why let the truth get in the way, when you are so busy hating Israelis that your spirit moves you to run into the arms of the 1400 year long enemies of the God of the Bible, that aren't even allowed by Muhammad to be friends with you.
They are only allowed to fake friendship with kuffar in order to achieve their goal.
Which is, of course, the 1400 year long - and running - goal of conquest of the world and subjugation of all people on earth to Muhammad's followers. It is their duty.

Sahih Al-Bukhari - "Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its Pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah is made superior and He becomes the only God who may be worshiped. By Jihad Islam is propagated and made superior. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position. Their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, and Muslim rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape this duty dies as a hypocrite." page 580 of Maktba Dar-us-Salam's Sahih Al-Bukhari

That's 1/4 of mankind in the world today, that follow a cult whose doctrine requires the conquest and subjugation of the world to Muhammad's followers.
They nearly succeeded in conquest of nearly the whole known world during the Islamic first jihad, until stopped in France and Austria.

Yet you preposterously suggest that is the goal of "the" "Jews", which comprise .2% (that's right two tenths of one percent) of the world's population, only about 1/3 of which live in Israel, and who's religion, of course, has no such goal or doctrine of global conquest as the Muhammadan's does.

I'll answer the rest of this absolutely ridiculous PM in the forum so I don't wind up loosing a pile of work, in this desperately pitiful YouTube PM venue. Or having you complain about my having sent too thorough of a reply again, to which you still haven't replied, let alone read. But then the reason I engage in these chats is for folks who are seeking truth to benefit from our exchange.
I'll chip away at it over the next day or two at this link
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2764.msg11330#msg11330

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2011, 06:50:34 PM »
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And once again I DON'T CARE. I'm only concerned with my spiritual life. Do you ever think maybe Surah 9:30 may mean that they profess these things with their mouth but do not act on it? Do you have a "shred of historical or archeological evidence" it really happened?

Of course. The verses I gave you were from Islam's historical record. The mass murder of those Jews is one of the proudest moments to fundamental Muslims that GET Islam and do everything they can to emulate Muhammad's murder, rape and thievery.

You have said yourself Muhammed was a liar.

It isn't about what I say. It's about what the God you claim you follow says.

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

That's 1.5 billion liars that reject the blood of the Lamb of God, and deny that He is the Son of God, because of their faith in Muhammad. The people YOU SUPPORT ARE ALL LIARS - TO THE MAN - according to the God of the scriptures.

I cannot stress to you how much I do not care.

You already made that more than obvious by choosing to run with atheists, agnostics, Nazis, skinheads, and other anti-Zionists.

Instead of worring about something that may or may not have happened hundreds of years ago, look at whats going on now.

EXACTLY. Over 17,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks AROUND THE WORLD just since 9-11 which has absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH ZIONISM.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Over a thousand Christians martyred on the Ivory Coast recently by the new Muslim government that Obama supports.
Genocide of blacks in Libya by Muhammadan antichrists already.
That's on top of the over two million killed by Muhammadans - so far - in the Sudan alone. NOTHING TO DO WITH ZIONISM.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=51.0

Let alone the Sunni and Shiite mutual targeting for murder of each others innocent men women and children, slaughter of Islamic Ahmadiyya, and in order to preserve their "honor" father's and mother's murder of their own sons and daughters that have come to know the love of Jesus Christ. NOTHING TO DO WITH ZIONISM.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=54.0

But hey, those murderous thugs are your peeps, eigh? No shortage of little heads full of mush in training now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4d9HPw4a_k

Lets say Muhammed did order the beheading and it did happen.

It is a widely recognized historical event. Islamic fundamentalists declare it one of the most blessed events in Islamic history. But then I wouldn't doubt you deny the holocaust too, let alone the Islamic Mufti of Jerusalem's hand in it, with two Islamic panzer divisions in Hitler's army. If you don't deny it I wouldn't be surprised if you look on it fondly based on prior PMs.

Its not so much different today that Israel orders the genocide of Palestinians.

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.    2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,    3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,    4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;    5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.    6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,    7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Lets say they did sleep with the captive women.

It isn't about what WE say. I already showed you verses from Bukhari that is considered to be the most inspired hadith.

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

Zionist soldiers have raped numerous Palestinian women .........

But of course the only evidence for that is folks that the God of the bible labels as lying antichrists.
You can't even see that you are blinded to the FACT that Muhammad is a mass murdering rapist that is followed by 1.5 billion people. He is the guy they are supposed to emulate.

........ and I can send you videos of them torturing children ......

And I can send you a Muhammadan propaganda video where they have a girl posing as a scantily clad Jew that mocks the cross. So what? All you are proving is that you are gullible and your mind has been surrendered to propaganda.

....... and it will stay in your mind forever if you have children of your own. Lets say Muhammed and his followers are antichrist.

It isn't about what WE say. That would be nothing more than the unsupported hollow claims that you have tried to pedddle already. It's about what the scriptures say - which is the exact opposite of what the Quran says.

John 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

Any religion that denounces Christ as the returning Messiah would be of anti-christ spirit.

Any religion that denies that Jesus is the Son of God - which is the most important fundamental of Islam. Muhammadanism is a cult that fills it's followers with complete resolve to DISbelieve the whole subject of the Gospel.

I'm not justifying Islam I'm just saying the country you feel theolgically bound to support .......

I support all democracies that protect and champion the right to freedom and self-determination of their citizens. Israel happens to be the ONLY country in the Middle East that does, and shares our western values. You want to turn it into another female circumcising,  wife beating, Islamic slave state like the rest of the Middle East.

......... is no different than the religion you spend your life speaking against if its really that way.

Which is the natural conclusion of replacement theology.

I believe that some faithful Jews remain sovereignly blinded so they can't sin against the Gospel.

Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

That was penned well after the cross.
How could they be enemies of the Gospel but still be beloved?

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1582.0

Yahweh's people don't prostrate themselves to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day like the folks that you support do.

There are usurpers everwhere you look.

I don't have to look too far.

But we can look around and see the end draws near and I'd rather spend my days in the reading of the Word of God and knowing the true enemy ......

You mean the one that causes 1/4 of mankind to engage in thinly repackaged pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship rituals, and has caused the same group to martyr Yahweh's people over the last 1400 years, with another two million killed in the Sudan alone by their hand.

........ than worrying about if Islam is right on wrong.

You obviously don't have any children.

You have fallen into the trap of Tuetonic/Rothschild Zionism my friend.

You have joined the enemy through all the unsubstantiated hogwash you have indoctrinated yourself with and tried to peddle.

You're education and your media has you feeling theoligically bound to support terror ......

Well done! Particularly for one that admits he wishes to remain ignorant to Islam and the true source of murder, mayhem and misery AROUND THE WORLD today. Muhammad being one of the most consummate terrorists in world history and freely admitting to it.

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

....... and turning a blind eye when it hits home. The Bible says the antichrist will be loved more than God by many.

There are only 4 verses in scripture that contain the term antichrist and none of them say that.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=624.0

But then you haven't included a single verse of scripture. Only the propaganda you are a victim of.

We can't have prayer in school now and the Christian flag has been replaced by the Israeli flag in many schools.

Sure. The Everson Decision of 1947, or the big lie of so-called "separation of church and state", followed by the 1948  McCollum V. Board of education decision, must have required removing Christan flags and putting up Israeli flags to replace them. Yea. Like dat!

There signs out that say " Be American, Stand by Israel' yet no reference to God.

There are signs that say "no left turn" and "stop" too.

We worry about Irans nuclear development ........

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury." Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Your kind of guy! Put him on the list of atheists, agnostics, nazis, and skinheads that you join company with.

........ and turn a blind eye to the fact that Israel has had almost 200 for quite some time.

And being the only nation in the Middle East that shares our western values, where Muslims live in more freedom than they do in any Islam controlled country on earth, it's no surprise they have shown such amazing restraint from using them against all the aggressive neighbors that have come against them. Their already proven ability to exercise restraint and good judgment makes them the perfect candidates to continue to keep them, as a continuing deterrent to the enemy of all non-islamic mankind.

I can go on and on ......

You already have, while ignoring scripture, and instead going on about individuals.

........ why I don't care to look into to Islam because I see Zionism as the biggest problem.

Isn't that funny! The reason you see Zionism as the biggest problem is specifically because you haven't cared to look into Islam! Self-admitted blind bias! Well done! Islamic antichrists agree with you, and for the same reason!

Yet most of the places in which we find murder, mayhem and misery in the world today we find the hand of Islam. It has nothing to do with Zionism, but the 1400 year long goal of Islam of conquest and subjugation of all the people in the world to Muhammad's followers.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if every country on earth could be a female circumcising, wife beating, slave state?!

Look into the videos I sent you and feel the sting of truth.

Look into the truth, and you will find that the very people you are in bed with, are the 1400 year enemies of all non-Islamic mankind.

And see if you can honestly tell me Zionism is not a worldwide problem at all.

It would be the epitome of ignorance of me to believe that Zionism is a worldwide problem, with 2 million killed in the Sudan alone by Muhammadans, and over 17,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks ALL AROUND THE WORLD, just since 9-11.
The kind of abject ignorance that you not only admit to, but declare you insist on remaining in.

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2011, 08:03:24 AM »
Yawwwn. I dont care if you answer a single question of mine. And once again nice attempt at putting words in my my by saying I hate Israelis. Continue your quest at stopping the Islamic New World Order and their attempt at world conquest. I can't believe I'm only the first ant-zionist Christian you've encountered. I can easily tell you how that 2% does it but it would mean I hate all Jews if I explained. Just look into ZOG. You are without a doubt the most brainwashed individual I have ever encountered. As far as being concerned only about myself. We are all to be of the priesthood in our individual spiritual walk. Someone not reading or replying to your messages is a sure sign theyre not concerned. I am only sending videos back because I am seriously concerned about you.

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2011, 08:33:49 AM »
Yawwwn. I dont care if you answer a single question of mine.

Yet though I answered to a plethora of your empty claims and questions, the record of our chat indicates that all you could do is obfuscate and ignore when it came to answering mine. This after earlier bearing false witness against me of "Seems you have quite the rep all over youtube for not ever giving an answer to the question given to you." when it is you that has ignored and obfuscated throughout our chat. This forum is filled with chats in which I answer in great detail.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=32.0
Most recently
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2729.msg11248#msg11248

And once again nice attempt at putting words in my my by saying I hate Israelis.

You don't need to say, it to exhibit it, particularly by your support for so-called "Palestinians" that do.

Continue your quest at stopping the Islamic New World Order and their attempt at world conquest.

While you continue to insist on maintaining your ignorance to it so you can continue to support the enemies of Yahweh.

I can't believe I'm only the first ant-zionist Christian you've encountered.

I've encountered others, and their efforts to support their view were just as feeble as yours. However none of them admitted to carefully maintaining the blind bias that you have, by freely admitting you prevent yourself from investigating the enemies of Yahweh that you support.

I can easily tell you how that 2% .......

Already inflated the percentage of global Jewish population by a factor of 10!

....... does it but it would mean I hate all Jews if I explained.

As well as through your support of those that would turn Israel's democracy into another imperialistic, totalitarian, female circumcising, wife beating, Islamist slave state.

Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'" Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176

Just look into ZOG.

Well done! One doesn't have to look far to see that it confirms how you have characterized yourself throughout our chat, but have tried to deny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Occupation_Government
"Zionist Occupation Government or Zionist Occupied Government (abbreviated as ZOG) is an antisemitic conspiracy theory which holds that Jews secretly control a given country, while the formal government is a puppet regime.[1]

The expression is used by antisemitic groups such as white supremacists in the United States[2] and Europe,[3] ultra-nationalists such as Pamyat in Russia, and various far-right groups, including some in Poland.[4]"


You are without a doubt the most brainwashed individual I have ever encountered.

I see. Yet you brainwash yourself with ZOG while I preach Christ crucified to 1.5 billion antichrists.

As far as being concerned only about myself. We are all to be of the priesthood in our individual spiritual walk. Someone not reading or replying to your messages is a sure sign theyre not concerned.

At a minimum it's a sure sign that they are as incapable of replying as you.

I am only sending videos back because I am seriously concerned about you.

I see. A ZOG guy that insists on maintaining not only a blind bias, regarding the 1/4 of mankind that are enemies of Yahweh - the people of THE false prophet Muhammad - but supports them through that same blindness against Yahweh's people. Is concerned about a guy that works full time preaching Christ crucified to antichrists. You do have at least that in common. They too, have to carefully maintain their ignorance to the scripture, history, archaeology and geography of Muhammadanism, in order to continue to prostrate themselves before the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day.

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2011, 12:05:47 PM »
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I just found the following comment that you left on jefeisdguard's channel.

[[[[I'll admit Christ is the returning Messiah. Never said anything against Him. Muslims speak highly of Christ as did Muhammed. Man teaches the discord on views of Christ. If you will look thousands of Europeans are converting to Islam. There is a great awakening to the truth worldwide western media will never speak of.]]]]

No wonder you failed to admit that Jesus is the Son of God.
Why don't you just admit that you are a Muslim that is engaging in taqiyyah by making a false claim that you are Christian?

Why don't you confess that Jesus is the Son of God now?
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[[[[Thatt wasnt me talking. Again several work this channel.]]]]

I don't think it is "again" since I don't recall the first time you telling me that.
If all the people that "work this channel" are not Muslims, then why don't you confess that Jesus is the Son of God to reassure me?
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[[[[No problem there I've always felt that way. And yes I have told you that. This channel and others are here for a reason. I think you might wanna look into the U.S.S. liberty thing a little deeper. Was wondering why the Israelis recieved awards for bombing our troops with napalm.]]]]

Do not copy and paste, but type these words yourself, in reply to me "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God"

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Re: Chat with Ever
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2011, 07:59:32 AM »
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[[[[No problem there I've always felt that way. And yes I have told you that. This channel and others are here for a reason. I think you might wanna look into the U.S.S. liberty thing a little deeper. Was wondering why the Israelis recieved awards for bombing our troops with napalm.]]]]

Do not copy and paste, but type these words yourself, in reply to me "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God"
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I believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God. You really think I am a Muslim don't you? My point exactly, you've been brainwashed my friend. Its not replacement theology exposing the atrocities of Zionism. You're media leads you to believe someone doing such would be a Muslim trying to sway you're mind as it leads you to believe Iran persecutes the Jews.