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ER1011

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 Thanks for your kindness and response. You have shown me patience and agape love after all I just want to make and stand before my Lord & Savoir Yeshua/Jesus and hear those words well done thy good and faithful servant enter into the joy of the Lord. Some of the meanest and angry “saints” are those who get questioned about their doctrines especially the more popular one in American Christianity today.

 I received another email from it turned out one who believes in the pre-trib and other classic traditional teachings that go along with it….premill flavor and got rebuked telling me I am an embarrassment and to wake up.

 It is those responses that have motivated me to question and search the truth.

I just want someone to explain with agape when I have sincere questions. I have been reading the CARM forums and a lot is explained their.

I also have noticed that there are a lot of teachings/beliefs about Israel and the Jews. I simply as a Jew believe that body/called out ones/church/bride is made up of gentiles and jews but they all have the same in common and that is a circumcised heart/regenerated spirit. As I search and read more it amazes me how the enemy has twisted a lot of truth and there are many flavors of beliefs out their especially concerning prophecy.

It must be done as it sounds you have done the same of unwrapping the futuristic teaching and truly understanding the scriptures, that one is difficult as decades of teaching is engraved in me.

I will study and pray for revelation as the Lord has done with the pre-trib teaching.

Once again thanks for your answers and kindness as your response has made me search more.
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Re: More questions/comments about understanding the truth of the matter.....
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 01:54:10 PM »
Thanks for your kindness and response. You have shown me patience and agape love after all I just want to make and stand before my Lord & Savoir Yeshua/Jesus and hear those words well done thy good and faithful servant enter into the joy of the Lord. Some of the meanest and angry “saints” are those who get questioned about their doctrines especially the more popular one in American Christianity today.
 I received another email from it turned out one who believes in the pre-trib and other classic traditional teachings that go along with it….premill flavor and got rebuked telling me I am an embarrassment and to wake up.

The Berean spirit has vanished from the institutional "church" including the so-called non-denominational denominations. When I get a chance I will do a PDF tract of the subject of futurism VS the Gospel that inquisitively asks them questions.

It is those responses that have motivated me to question and search the truth.
 
I just want someone to explain with agape when I have sincere questions. I have been reading the CARM forums and a lot is explained their.

Have you been in the "preterism" and "eschatology" sections? If you click on my username you can find a list of "all started threads". You will find folks caught completely flat-footed.

I also have noticed that there are a lot of teachings/beliefs about Israel and the Jews. I simply as a Jew believe that body/called out ones/church/bride is made up of gentiles and jews but they all have the same in common and that is a circumcised heart/regenerated spirit.

I was beginning to teach futurism some years back, and kept running into difficulties, and finally asked the Lord right out loud to help me understand Jews in this Christian era. Without ever thinking about that request again, a couple weeks later I was given the very specific answer to my question within the false prophet that someone in a secular finance forum had directed me to. That's what began my journey:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/one_more_time.htm
I did a minimal verse by verse of Romans 11 here:
http://israelinbibleprophecy.com/spirit_of_slumber.htm

As I search and read more it amazes me how the enemy has twisted a lot of truth and there are many flavors of beliefs out their especially concerning prophecy.

Anti-Zionism is straight from Satan himself. Simply consider the fruit:
http://www.petewaldo.com/anti_zionism.htm

It must be done as it sounds you have done the same of unwrapping the futuristic teaching and truly understanding the scriptures, that one is difficult as decades of teaching is engraved in me.

We have to ask, is Jesus the ONE sacrifice FOREVER or not?

http://www.christianeschatology.com/futurism_dispensationalism.htm#futurism_vs_the_gospel
Are we the temple of God or not? Was the temple Jesus built in 3 days through His crucifixion death and resurrection insufficient, incomplete or unfinished?

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/temple_of_god.htm

I will study and pray for revelation as the Lord has done with the pre-trib teaching.
 
Once again thanks for your answers and kindness as your response has made me search more.

There is a lot to cover but please, please, please start by reading The False Prophet
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_great_detective.htm

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Re: More questions/comments about understanding the truth of the matter.....
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 01:56:10 PM »
In the whole history of this forum I have only modified a half dozen posts of forum members. I went ahead and modified yours since I put the answers in forum format following. Hope it's OK. I won't ever change a post of yours without your specific request from this point on.

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Re: More questions/comments about understanding the truth of the matter.....
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 03:35:33 PM »
Some of the meanest and angry “saints” are those who get questioned about their doctrines especially the more popular one in American Christianity today.

The reason is because they cannot defend what they believe. Or really even make any sense out of it.

I received another email from it turned out one who believes in the pre-trib and other classic traditional teachings that go along with it….premill flavor and got rebuked telling me I am an embarrassment and to wake up.

I encourage you to email him this link and ask if he can offer you answers to the questions posed there:
http://www.christianeschatology.com/futurism_dispensationalism.htm#futurism_vs_the_gospel

Or to this CARM thread where no futurist has yet.

And to simply hand the following PDF "Futurism VS the Gospel" to anyone similarly disposed:
http://www.christianeschatology.com/c18.pdf