Author Topic: There is no such thing as a land of "Palestine" or "Palestinians"  (Read 1591 times)

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I had prepared and posted the following thread in a "Christian" Forum that would seem to be in sheer terror of truth. A forum in which even discussion of church ordinances, for example, is prohibited under the ridiculously false accusation of "judaizing". The thread that follows was only up for a little while before it was unceremoniously removed. Fortunately having learned the lesson in those types of forums repeatedly, I copied the thread, before a few hours of work was removed without warning by administrators. Indeed there seems to be no shortage of those in the "church" today who seem unaware that nicolaitanism (victory over the laity), by men (and in this case women as well) that usurp the headship of Jesus Christ, is one of the things God expresses a personal hatred of. I praise the Lord we don't need to censor truth in this forum. On to the thread that was posted in their "end-time delusion" category:

A land of "Palestine" or a people called "Palestinians" is just another end-time delusion. I suppose we could allow folks to label themselves Narnians from a self-proclaimed land of Narnia, or Atlantans that claim to have come from Atlantis, and even offer them "observer" status at the U.N., but it wouldn't make that fiction become truth.

There is no shortage of error that results from confusing who the groups that are in conflict in Israel are. There are also a great many people engaged in the dialogue that hate Jews, who's 2500+ years of persecution continues on.

First, all of the people residing in Israel are all Israelis. There is no such thing as a "Palestinian" or a land of Palestine. The Philistines vanished thousands of years ago. The term "Palestine" was originally coined by a 2nd century Roman Emperor who referred to Israel as Palestine to insult the Jews he had just vanquished. The term was resurrected at least by the British when they screwed up Israel in the early 20th century.
But the land of Israel has only ever been Israel from the time that the Lord sent His people there to displace the Canaanites.

As Christians we understand that scripture divides mankind physically into two groups, so there are only Israeli Jews and Israeli Gentiles. Period. Additionally the new covenant scriptures NEVER refer to the land as "Palestine":

Matt 2:20-21 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead who sought the young child’s life. And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel.

The term "Palestinians" as used today is a lie through which Satan masks the true identity of those who should be referred to as Israeli Muslims. And in Israel, as with most everywhere else in the world where we find murder, mayhem and misery, we find the hand of the followers of the false prophet Muhammad to be responsible, with over two million killed or displaced in the Sudan alone. Just as it should be since the false prophet Muhammad commanded his people to conquer all kingdoms of the world, and subjugate all people, to denying the Son of God and rejecting His shed blood.

Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

It is very important for our brethren to understand what is happening to our brothers and sisters in many parts of the world. Were it not for the democracy of the Jewish State in Israel protecting their citizenry, we could expect the same there as well since we find churches burned in Egypt, Malaysia, Nigeria and most everywhere we find the hand of Islam.

Among the two groups of Jew and Gentile in Israel, are mainly faithful and unfaithful Jews, and Arabs of various national origin and religious affiliation, as well as non-religious agnostics and atheists in all ethnic groups. Israeli Jews and non-Muslim Arabs share a 200 year history of getting along with each other from the time that Jews began to be restored to their land in the early 19th century, after it had been rendered spiritually and physically desolate and desertified through 1200 years of Islam, having also been denuded of population. Relegated to wasteland.

In "A History of the Jews" Paul Johnson writes on page 321: "Between 1827 and 1839, largely through British efforts, the population of Jerusalem rose from 550 to 5,500 and in all Palestine it topped 10,000 - the real beginning of the Jewish return to the Promised Land. In 1838 Palmerston appointed the first western vice-consul in Jerusalem, W.T. Young, and told him 'to afford protection to the Jews generally'."

So the group in Israel causing problems is that of Israeli Muslims. This is because Muhammad's followers will not be satisfied until they have completed their conquest of Israel, imposed Islamic sharia law, and as their leaders proclaim "kill the Jews" and "drive the Jews into the sea". Belief in the last "hour" is such an important part of Islam that it is frequently mentioned side by side with belief in "Allah". Thus as Muhammad put regarding the obligation of his followers:

Sahih Bukhari B52 #177 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Just as they are called to, and are in the process of, conquering all of the other kingdoms of the world. Thus Israelis can be grouped into the two groups that are in conflict which are Israeli Muslims against Israeli non-Muslims. The same old 1400 year "dar al-Salaam" VS the "dar al-Harb". The "house of peace" conquest of the "house of war". If you are a non-Muslim you are in the house of war, and while you may not be at war against Islam, Islam has been at war against you for 1400 years.

Now this is important. While there is no shortage of those that call themselves Muslims that wish to live in peace - perhaps even a majority of them - that is contrary to the "religion" they ascribe to, making them apostates, "renegades" and "infidels" in the view of true Muslims that GET Islam and do what they can to do as Muhammad did, and commanded his followers to do. That's why they remain so silent when it comes to the terror being perpetrated by their brethren. Basically, they are leaving the heavy lifting to others. Those with discerning hearts, when possible, leave Islam and often become Christians. With over 6 million Muslims coming to Christ every year in Africa alone! Over a quarter of them coming to Christ through a dream, vision, or being directly spoken to by Jesus Christ. A new book that was just recommended to me is "Miraculous Movements" which I have received but not started yet while I am sure I will find very encouraging.

The democracy of the Jewish State continues to protect the freedom, liberty and right to self-determination of Israeli Jews, Christians, non-Muslim Arabs, and Muslims. The fact of the matter is that Muslims enjoy more freedom in Israel, than they do in any Muslim controlled country on earth.
So what about Israeli non-Muslim secular Arab's desires?

"In contrast, a poll of 507 Arab-Israelis conducted by the Israeli Democracy Institute in 2007 found that 75 percent profess support for Israel's status as a Jewish and democratic state which guarantees equal rights for minorities. Israeli Arab support for a constitution in general was 88 percent.[31]"

Which of course makes complete sense, because what non-Muslim Israeli of any ethnicity would want Israel converted into just another sharia law ruled, wife and concubine beating, little girl circumcising (FGM), Jew, Christian and "apostate" beheading, oppressive, totalitarian, imperialistic Islamic slave state?

AP - December 06, 2006 MOGADISHU, Somalia - "Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day will be beheaded, an Islamic courts official said Wednesday, adding the edict will be implemented in three days."

In Indonesia 3 teenage girls were beheaded on their way to their Christian school and one of their heads left on the steps of a Church. The note left behind reads: "We will murder 100 more Christian teenagers and their heads will be presented as presents."

The modern state of Israel was initially allowed, and even encouraged internationally, because of international guilt for having persecuted Jews throughout the wilderness of the Gentile nations for over 2500 years. Today, international anti-Zionist anti-semites are working feverishly to eliminate the Jewish state. After having built Gaza from next to nothing over the last half century or so, the Israelis were compelled to turn it over to the so-called "Palestinians" - that is, Muslims - in exchange for another empty promise of peace. The Israelis had built and operated greenhouses there which produced over 200 million dollars worth of produce. Also one of the largest dairies. Leading the world in irrigation technology and fruiting the desert per Ezekiel 36:35. The greenhouses were to be operated by the Muslims for their own profit. When the Muslims took control they ransacked and looted the greenhouses, and 3500 high-tech greenhouse jobs for "Palestinians" have been converted into 500 people scratching in the dirt in efforts to grow food.

Almost to the day from when they took over, the Israeli Muslims used Gaza not to produce, but as a closer launch pad from which they have rained thousands of rocket down on Israel, as capable of hitting schools and hospitals as any other target. And what about the Gaza Christians that had previously enjoyed the freedom and protection afforded by the democracy of the Jewish State?

"Christians can only continue living safely in the Gaza Strip if they accept Islamic law, including a ban on alcohol and on women roaming publicly without proper head coverings, an Islamist militant leader in Gaza told WND in an exclusive interview."
"The militant leader said Christians in Gaza who engage in "missionary activity" will be 'dealt with harshly.'"

Christians are subjugated to Muhammad's followers. The slavery of Islamic dhimmitude begins. To understand what is meant by women "roaming publicly" the Saudi example is instructive, where men lock their wives inside their houses when they leave, and any women found on the streets alone are fair game for rape. Women are not allowed to drive cars. 15 girl were burned alive because they had the audacity to attempt to flee a burning school building without wearing head scarves. The religious police forced them to go back inside the burning building.

Thus Satan, through anti-Semitism, has obscured the fact that there are basically only two sides. Israeli Muslims and Israeli non-Muslims.