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Chat with ala
« on: July 28, 2009, 08:44:39 AM »
ALA (1 day ago) Show Hide

I have heard this brother before he is very humble.

Similar reversion was Sheikh Yusuf Estes who also was a protestant minister.

Subhan Allah

PeteWaldo (22 hours ago) Show Hide

By his own admission Yusuf Estes was NEVER a Christian, since he said he and his father put money before ministry.
Luk 16:13 .... Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Plus it's not possible for a Christian to be deceived by a false prophet:

Mar 13:22 For false Christs and FALSE PROPHETS shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, IF [IT WERE] POSSIBLE, even the elect.

Come explore it with me:
brotherpete. com/index. php?board=12.0

Copy & paste and remove spaces after dots.

ALA (22 hours ago) Show Hide

LOL now your denying Yusuf estes was ever a christian.

Good point now join the dots and realise Jesus (pbuh) was never a Christian also.

Keep looking into it. And what a feeble comment oh please... on your basis how many actually Christians are there in this world

PeteWaldo (22 hours ago) Show Hide

Someone else had sent me this video, but it was uploaded by khalifahklothing, who censors truth and won't post my comments on his videos, so I explored this video in detail, for the YouTuber that sent it to me, here:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=488.0

ALA (22 hours ago) Show Hide

Probably becuase you post nonsense...
ever looked at the nonsense you post.

PeteWaldo (21 hours ago) Show Hide

The 1600 year record of God to mankind through ALL of the prophets and apostles must necessarily be considered "nonsense" to someone who follows Mohammed's 7th century stand-alone 23 year record.
Where do you suppose my first comment went, Alan? That's not the one that I removed. If you think you can defend Mohammed please join me here:
brotherpete. com/index. php

PeteWaldo (22 hours ago) Show Hide

Someone else had sent me this video so I explored it in detail, for the YouTuber that sent it to me, here:
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=488.0

ALA (22 hours ago) Show Hide

Mash Allah - in the last 10 years I have seen so many reverts in comparison to 1990's. It is amazing... It is like Qu'ran says there is NO COMPULSION in religion and the TRUTH STANDS firm alone.

PeteWaldo (21 hours ago) Show Hide

The 1600 year record of God to mankind through ALL of the prophets and apostles must necessarily be considered "nonsense" to someone who follows Mohammed's 7th century stand-alone 23 year record.
If you think you can defend Mohammed please join me here:
brotherpete. com/index. php

ALA (21 hours ago) Show Hide

How can you defend Jesus?

When the Israelite Jesus came for a specific mission, lived a specific way of life YET it is all changed when we analyse the Pauline Christianity. I for one have no need to debate you, I have debated many Bible Bashers here but you do not reason to logic nor do you reason to Reason but you RESORT to CONJECTURE

ALA (21 hours ago) Show Hide

Those who are troubled with Christianity and seek logical answers to their frustration will always find that logic in Islam. Those lost in conjecture will always be like you challenging me on the basis of CONJECTURE.

ALA (21 hours ago) Show Hide

Islam is closest in practice and monotheism tot he Israelite religion, ISlam is the closest to the Christians becuase we honour the Israelite Messiah - Al Masih Jesus (pbuh) and his honourable mother. Those seeking consistency in the montheistic faith find it in Islam - regardless of the MISTRANSLATION and MISINFORMATION you knowingly will convey against Islam. Like it or not people are reverting to Islam therefore there is a flaw in your BIBLE BASHING argument!!.

PeteWaldo (21 hours ago) Show Hide

"I for one have no need to debate you..."
Debate is the lair of liars.
I proposed discussion in a format where we could proceed thoughtfully over time - but you certainly aren't alone in your fear.

"Islam is closest in practice and monotheism tot he Israelite religion."

When did Muslims start following the 613 mitzvot (commandments) of Judaism?
See how preposterous your notion is?

Folks will convert to Islam, just not Christians. Perhaps a few deluded posers like the poor fellow above.

PeteWaldo (21 hours ago) Show Hide

"Those lost in conjecture will always be like you challenging me on the basis of CONJECTURE."

I cited scripture to show a Christian can't be fooled by a false prophet.
God's people have followed Him for 3500 years through His record.
That Muslims have to reject the 1600 year record of God to mankind, for Mohammed's 23 year 7th century record is a matter of fact not conjecture.
It's an IMPOSSIBILITY to follow both.
For Muslims that don't share Alan's fear:

brotherpete. com/index. php?board=12.0

PeteWaldo (20 hours ago) Show Hide

Why does he pick on Paul?
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1John 2:22..HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

ALA (12 hours ago) Show Hide

John 14:6 refers to every messenger who comes to his people in his time! he the messenger brings with him revelation from God and it is only through his message that you can acheive salvation. Abraham (pbuh) said the same, so did Moses (pbuh) so did David (pbuh) no different to Jesus (pbuh). AND so does the Qu'ran Al Furqaan

ALA (12 hours ago) Show Hide

Was Abraham (pbuh) a Jew - Offcourse NOT, Was Abraham even an Israelite - Offcourse not but he followed and created organised mootheistic beleif and was closest to God. Was Abraham (pbuh) practicing Christianity offcourse not. Was Abaham (pbuh) practicing the RELIGION of the Israelites - oh yes! was that religion given the name Judaism ( from the tribes of Judah) or Christianity (a roman Invention) - offcourse not.

ALA (12 hours ago) Show Hide

Abraham (pbuh) was defined by his action and his practice, he followed everything from God however fundamental Thus he submitted his free will and human consciousness to serve God alone.

ALA (12 hours ago) Show Hide

We muslims follow a religion that began with Adam was organised through Abraham (pbuh), enforced trough Moses (pbuh) brought strict codes of ethics and laws, David (pbuh) showed us how to govern as a nation and then Jesus (pbuh) gave us hope that God will never let them mislead you..

ALA (12 hours ago) Show Hide

and finally prophet Muhammad a Culmination of ALL those qualities, brought us clear transparent signs how to practice what began with Abraham through the laws of Moses (pbuh) and governed through the principles of David and Soloman (pbut) and gave mankind Hope that God's LAW will remain unchanged.. and restored the honour of Jesus (pbuh) and his honorable mother (pbuh). I urge you ALL to learn Islam become INFORMED in Islam as Opposed to Misinformed.

shalom
salam

ALA (12 hours ago) Show Hide

Ever muslim in the world beleives in Jesus (pbuh) The Messenger of God, we muslim beleive;

1) jesus was the Messiah
2) Jesus had a miraculous birth
3) Jesus was inspired by God in the cradle to teach mankind
4) Jesus was the word of God, the Living LAW
We beleive in Jesus and have never denied him and honour him more so than you Christians.. who practiced a religion that Jesus (pbuh) NEVER practiced himself.

ALA (12 hours ago) Show Hide

Do understand Paul?
Who was Paul: to this day his identity is unknown like the authors of the bible.
Who witnessed Paul?
How many of the Episltes were false?
Why is it Pauline Christianity breaks the covenant mad eby Abraham, breaks the LAWS of Moses & is a practice Not preached nor practiced by Jesus himself.

PeteWaldo (31 minutes ago) Show Hide

ALANSARALHAQ, I well understand your preference for this 500 character YouTube format where you can flush away truth with spam.
The same reason you are too afraid to join me where we can reasonably engage in discussion - TRUTH
The same reason your cowardly prophet killed poets rather than answer to them.
Same reason you can't ask your imam many questions:

Surah 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.

brotherpete. com/index. php

PeteWaldo (22 minutes ago) Show Hide

Same answer you flushed.
Why pick on Paul when you must reject ALL?

Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is MY BELOVED SON , in whom I am well pleased.
Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, [saying], Thou art MY BELOVED SON, in whom I am well pleased.
Luke 3:22 ...and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art MY BELOVED SON; in thee I am well pleased.
2Peter 1:17 ...when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is MY BELOVED SON...

PeteWaldo (15 minutes ago) Show Hide

You discuss the book of John as if his book is supposed to have some sort of meaning to you, when in fact you must reject it out of hand to follow Mohammed.
Don't you see how foolish it is for you to quote the bible?
Let's quote some more:

John 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that THIS IS THE SON OF GOD.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

brotherpete. com/index. php?board=33.0


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