6 - ANTICHRIST, AHMED DEEDAT, DECEPTION AND TAQIYYAH

[Pete]

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naliakbar video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpgRIGRbF8s
Now to the subject of the heart of the video you were responding to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9qHIbnrws
You characterized my discussion of Deedat's FALSE VERSE, that he pretended supported his contention that Islam is not antichrist, as such:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpgRIGRbF8s
"...dishonesty just shows here clearly..."
"...How could you sit there and be so dishonest with people..."
"...What do you as a Christian gain for being so dishonest..."
Then you went on to suggest that 1John 2:22 was not relevant, but in fact Deedat used part of 1John 2:22 to fabricate his false creation of a verse THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN SCRIPTURE. You went on:
"...why did you have to lie to people to get them to think that Deedat lied..."
But naliakbar did all the lying by accusing Pete of lying.
"...do you have to lie to get people to your faith?"
The answer, of course, is no. TRUTH IS WHAT HAS ALWAYS WON FOLKS TO MY FAITH. Not lies, swords and threats of death, like Islam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owCki_Wip5Q
That's why I was compelled to expose Deedat and HIS FALSE VERSION of God's Holy Word. Christianity is about truth.
JESUS IS THE TRUTH.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
The reason for Deedat's FAKE VERSE is obvious. According to the bible Islam IS ANTICHRIST. Each and every Muslim is AN ANTICHRIST. But don't feel singled out. Atheists are antichrists too.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
Most importantly: WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:
Deedat pretended to use the bible to prove that Islam is not antichrist, but like the rest of Islamic sophists he does nothing but delude Muslims, into continuing down the path of a 7th century false prophet WHOSE RELIGION IS THE OPPOSITE of that of the Christians and Jews at the most important places.
Deceived Muslim after deceived Muslim has come to me defending that Islam is not antichrist, having been deluded by Deedat into believing that God's Word supports them. Showing me the verses.
When they then see the plain truth of the actual verses that describe it, then it's the old "well we don't believe everything in the bible". Do you see how peculiar that is?
One can't pick and choose from the bible like: "well this seems to support Islam so I believe this, oh but this doesn't so it must be a lie"
On to Deedat's fake verse.
The version I saw was here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nA_-h2uuSA
In the U-Tube Mr. Deedat was asked "...can you vouch for the fact that Mohammed was not antichrist"
Since Mr. Deedat quoted 1 John 4:1 straight out of the King James Version of the Holy Bible almost flawlessly, it is difficult to imagine that he could misquote the very next verse so appallingly incorrectly, by accident.
He misquotes 1 John 4:2 which reads: 1Jo 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
Here he exchanged part of 1 John 2:22: "...that Jesus is the Christ..."
Mr. Deedat's hybrid creation then became: "...the spirit that confesseth that Jesus is the Christ is of God:"
Mr. Deedat then goes on to suggest that the verse he fabricated is a "test" for antichrist, but in true Islamic sophist tradition it is in fact a false test, and it is built on a false version of God's Holy Word.
Mr. Deedat's combining and confusing snippets of these two separate verses resulted in obscuring the sad truth that Islam is indeed antichrist.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
Surah 9.30 THE JEWS CALL ‘UZAIR A SON OF GOD, AND THE CHRISTIANS CALL CHRIST THE SON OF GOD..... GOD’S CURSE BE ON THEM: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
Islam is antichrist. "Shirk" manifest in declaration that God has no Son, is the most important fundamental in Islam.
That's why the one of Islam is opposite of the God of Christians and Jews at every turn.

Muslims - all Gentiles - MUST CHOOSE between the 1600 year record of the revelation of God to mankind, expressed in His Word through the prophets, and masses of witnesses.
Or the 23 year record of the recitations of a single, illiterate, 7th century individual's, unwitnessed "revelations" and his stand-alone religion that directly opposes God's Word, and replaced God's love and peace under the new covenant, with pillage, plunder, and imperialistic bloody conquest.
Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
To my Muslim could-become brethren, we exhort you to come into the love and the light of the one true God:
1Jo 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
Why not try reading God's Word? Have you ever approached it "as a child", with open eyes and an open heart?
Luke 18:17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
You can start in the Gospel of John here: http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm
   

[naliakbar]

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My first question is the following:
Was the last name of Jesus, Christ?  The answer ofcourse is NO, so it is known that Jesus Christ really means Jesus is the Christ.  Because what is the Christ? The Christ is (in this case) the Messiah to the Jews. So to say Jesus is the Christ is infact what is ment by Jesus Christ. I agree that Deedat did not qoute the verse word for word as you want it to, but he made what the verse means clear for the listener. Also when I realized you were talking about the word for word I did apologize to you in my vidoe comments. But as I explained to you here Jesus Christ = Jesus is the Christ!
So what I want for you to do is to tell me that Jesus Christ is NOT the same meaning of Jesus is the Christ. And if that is the case tell me what does Jesus Christ translate to, was it Jesus last name?

[Pete]

My first question is the following:
Was the last name of Jesus, Christ?  The answer ofcourse is NO, so it is known that Jesus Christ really means Jesus is the Christ.  Because what is the Christ? The Christ is (in this case) the Messiah to the Jews.  So to say Jesus is the Christ is infact what is ment by Jesus Christ.  I agree that Deedat did not qoute the verse word for word as you want it to, but he made what the verse means clear for the listener.  Also when I realized you were talking about the word for word I did apologize to you in my vidoe comments.  But as I explained to you here Jesus Christ = Jesus is the Christ!

So what I want for you to do is to tell me that Jesus Christ is NOT the same meaning of Jesus is the Christ.  And if that is the case tell me what does Jesus Christ translate to, was it Jesus' last name?

It doesn't matter. You can pretend you are not antichrist by PART of the definition for antichrist, but you can't.
Even secular historians will admit that Jesus lived on earth. Many of the same will readily admit that the historical record shows that Jesus died on the Cross too.
But if they deny that Jesus is THE Son of God they are antichrist. Just like Muslims.
1 John 2:22  ...HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

The term "the Son of God" is used 44 times in the KJV, and that doesn't count the vast number of verses where Jesus is referred to as THE Son like in the preceding verse. As detailed in the "THE SON OF GOD is different from other sons of God" thread: http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=56.0

See the "Jesus is the only begotten of the Father" thread. You have to deny ALL of the verses that make this claim.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=55.0

But then you deny Jesus' whole purpose of the Christ, that He died on the Cross to save us from our sin, so none of the rest matters.
See "Blood of the Lamb" thread:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=54.0
2Jo 1:9  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Jesus wasn't just another son of God. He was here before the world ever was:

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

2Timothy 1:9  Who hath saved us, and called [us] with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

1 Peter 1:19  But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:  20  Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Matthew 13:35  That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

John 17:24   Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Hebrews 9:26  For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

The answer, of course, is no. TRUTH IS WHAT HAS ALWAYS WON FOLKS TO MY FAITH. Not lies, swords and threats of death, like Islam

Tell me what sword, treath or death has won the faith of the biggest muslim pupulation out side of arabia, and that is malysia?  Which muslim army went there?  

The Muslim theme is immigrate and populate like bunnies. In India they even outpopulate the Hindus by 50%.
What sword? 2 million slain in the Sudan alone. And all of Northern Africa.

You mean like the sword that cut these teenage girls heads off on their way to Christian school?

In Indonesia 3 teenage girls were beheaded on their way to their Christian school and their heads left on the steps of a Church.  The note left behind reads:  "We will murder 100 more Christian teenagers and their heads will be presented as presents."

"Once again, women are the targets. In mid-March, rebels assaulted three women gathering firewood and cut off their ears, lips, and breasts."
"Starting in 2003, Janjaweed Arabs, a Sudan-backed militia, have driven 2 million villagers from their homes in ethnic-cleansing attacks designed to suppress local rebels."

"Eyewitness accounts detailing the militia attacks are horrifying. "They killed my 3-year-old son right in front of my eyes," one father from West Darfur said. Since last fall, women have reported more than 500 rapes. Three women said five militiamen beat and raped them last August. The women said, "After they abused us, they told us that now we would have Arab babies. And, if they would find any [more] women, they would rape them again to change the color of their children.""

Pure evil my friend. But the Muslims are simply trying to please their god:

Koran (Sura 8:12) I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

Yahoo - malaysia islam oppression -
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu74GlVdIJoYBtDVXNyoA?p=malaysia+islam+oppression&y=Search&fr=yfp-t-501&ei=UTF-8

Tell me what treath of death etc is gaining converts to islam in america and england?

As one English Imam put it: "England will be ruled under sharia law peacefully or by force. Those who do not stand in our way will live."
Islam is a cancer anywhere it has a foothold in the world. That's because it's interest is conquering the kingdoms of the world. These kingdoms are satan's property.

Tell me why the largest population of these are women who christians claim to be degraded in islam?  Your claim is baseless.

Women in Islam = 1/2 a man:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/index.htm#women

That's why I was compelled to expose Deedat and HIS FALSE VERSION of God's Holy Word. Christianity is about truth.
JESUS IS THE TRUTH.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I have no issue with John 14:6 Every prophet was the way the truth and the life, that no person of the community would go to god without their message, so in the time of moses, if they didn't follow moses' truth and way they would not get the eternal life of heaven with god.  So there is no issue with this. The problem is you take this to mean that Jesus is god and that again is where the problem is.

The problem is that you are an antichrist that also denies the very purpose of the Christ.
Above you see where Jesus was with God before the world was.

The reason for Deedat's FAKE VERSE is obvious. According to the bible Islam IS ANTICHRIST. Each and every Muslim is AN ANTICHRIST. But don't feel singled out. Atheists are antichrists too.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
Most importantly:
WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

As I explained but you cant seem to get this into your head, is that I do not deny that Jesus is the Son in the context of the OT.  Where a SON is defined as a messenger, holy man or prophet of god.  We accept the prophet Jesus.  But you have perverted what SON means, you say SON is GOD.  

Islam is the perversion that came along through an illiterate, pillaging lustful imperialistic criminal.
He has made you call God's Holy Word a perversion. You are on the fast track to an eternity in hell for following THE false prophet's false religion if you don't repent, my friend.

The first verse is a Christophany where Jesus showed Himself long before He came to earth:

Dan 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

The following verses are what you are calling a "perversion":

Mat 4:3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
Mat 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Mat 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
Mat 26:63 But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
Mat 27:40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest [it] in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.
[Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Mat 27:43    He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.
Mat 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
Mar 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
Mar 3:11 And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.
Mar 15:39 And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Luk 4:3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.
Luk 4:9 And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:
Luk 4:41 And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking [them] suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.
Luk 22:70 Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.
Jhn 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
Jhn 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
Jhn 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
Jhn 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
Jhn 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Jhn 11:4 When Jesus heard [that], he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby.
Jhn 11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.
Jhn 19:7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.

And now Satan's words, channeled through his prophet:

Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

That we take exception to, and because it is perverted, islam tells us anything that is perverted and leads to ascribing partners to god should not be used, this is why we don�t call Jesus the Son of god, because you will take that to mean that to mean that Jesus is god.

The OBVIOUS "PERVERSION" around here is satan's tool THE FALSE PROPHET MOHAMMED, AND ISLAM.

[Pete]

Deedat pretended to use the bible to prove that Islam is not antichrist, but like the rest of Islamic sophists he does nothing but delude Muslims, into continuing down the path of a 7th century false prophet WHOSE RELIGION IS THE OPPOSITE of that of the Christians and Jews at the most important places.

I would love for you to back up this claim.

THE BIBLE backs up this claim at every turn:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
Surah 112.2 Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; 3 He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

Pecularly and sadly, even though Muslims believe Mary was a virgin that was impregnated by God to conceive Jesus, the Quran requires them to deny that Jesus was begotten of the God, and worse, to deny that Jesus is the Son of God. This is the spirit of antichrist.
1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].


The name of the God of Abraham is YHWH (Yahweh), which means "I AM".  

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Allah does not mean "I AM" in Arabic.  Indeed, compelling archaeological evidence suggests it came from the name of the moon god.
Is the name the only difference?  Is Allah the God of Abraham?  

Genesis 12:2 And I will make of thee [Abram] a great nation [Israel], and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3  And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Hadith: "Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh servant of Allah, oh Muslim, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!"
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1463wmv&ak=null

Bible: Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Koran: (Sura 2:223) your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.

Bible: Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Koran (Sura 8:12) I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
(Sura 9:5)  But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war);...
(Sura 9:123)  O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers . . .

It should be painfully obvious that the verses compared above could not be inspired by the same God.  Not surprisingly then, of the 99 names of Allah - even after extensive revision - none indicate that he is a God of love.  A Muslim must choose between the God of the Christians and jews or the one of Islam that curses Christians and Jews.
Matthew 7:16  Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.  

tell me what does the muslim do that is not a part of what the jews and christians teach.

How about bloody imperialistic conquest against the non-Islamic world for 1400 years, for openers?
12,000 deadly terror attacks just since 9-11. And don't even start with Zionism being the reason for the slaughter in the Sudan and elsewhere around the world. It is satan's conquest, securing satan's kingdomd, using satan's people.

In addition to everything throughout this entire section of this forum.

The Jews are our elder brothers as far as faith goes, so lets use them as the measure stick, tell me what is the most important thing that our elder brothers taught us?

This is so laughable it is WAY beyond the pale. Try a Yahoo - Islam hates Jews -
Why?
Hadith: "Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh servant of Allah, oh Muslim, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!"
Video version: http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1463wmv&ak=null

Islam is the opposite.

Yes the 10 commandments, so why don't we go into it and see who follows the 10 commandments?

That you haven't chosen to kill your first kafir yet is irrelevant.
Another Muslim made a similar preposterous claim that Islam follows the 7 laws of Noah:

1. Prohibition of Idolatry: You shall not have any idols before God.
Every Muslim has to go march around a black stone and the Kaaba some time in his life.

2. Prohibition of Murder: You shall not murder. (Genesis 9:6)

Islamic imperialistic conquest of the First Jihad slaughter conquered almost the whole known world.
Second Jihad slaughter has murdered in over 12,000 deadly terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

3. Prohibition of Theft: You shall not steal.

Mohammed's petty thievery of caravan plundering escalated into the Islamic slaughter and theft of the First Jihad. Mohammed's "god" even had to give him a special chapter in the Koran related to all the stolen goods: Chapter 8 AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)
It is there that Mohammed detailed that 1/5 of the booty was to be his and Allah's. Interestingly Allah never collected his share.

4. Prohibition of Sexual Promiscuity: You shall not commit adultery.

What was it? 26 wives and how many concubines? And the average Joe gets 4 wives and concubines?
Islam flunks again.

5. Prohibition of Blasphemy: You shall not blaspheme God's name.

The name YHWH or "I AM" is so sacred to Jews they can't even speak it. Allah does not mean "I AM" in Arabic. Likely from the name of the moon god.

6. Prohibition of Cruelty to Animals: Do not eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive. (Genesis 9:4)

One of the starlets just recently came out against the inhumane way in which Muslims slaughter lambs.

7. Requirement to have just Laws: You shall set up an effective judiciary to enforce the preceding six laws fairly.

Islamic sharia women's word is 1/2 that of a man's. Women get 1/2 of the inheritance.

BIG FAT F ON THAT REPORT CARD. SORRY.

1 - GOD IS ONE. Has no partners
Muslim - Sura 112: Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.
Christians - God is one but this one is divided into 3 persons the father is a person the son is a person the spirit is a person, and these 3 persons are 1 god.  You read the bible you find the father is full of vengence that he wants his pound of flesh for every sin commited, the son is loving and caring, the spirit well I don't even know what kind of personality he has, but the point is that it is clear that the son and father have different personality, and because of this unless god has skitsofrenia where he keeps changing personality then you have 3 separate Gods.

God loves everyone. He has even extended His hand to save you from hell's fire. But you receive not the love of the truth. It is mankind's own fault if they wind up blaspheming God the way you do and wind up the recipient of God's wrath. He tried to save you through His Holy Word. You prefer to blaspheme against it because you follow and illiterate murderous 7th century reprobate.

SO it is clear that from the very fist commandment that we hold true of our jewish brothers you christians are NOT in the MOST important Place according to MOSES and JESUS (Mark 12:29), so of the things you call Most Important we already find you wanting.  I beg you to give up your belief that god is 3 beings and accept the monothiesm you claim you follow and come to islam.

You are trying to assign to Christians what they believe based on an ignorant 7th century desert dweller's opinion.
But you cannot expect to understand the things of the Spirit:

1Cr 2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

Had Mohammed been literate he may not have made such preposterous claims:

Mark 12:29...The Lord our God is one Lord 32...for there is one God; and there is none other but he:  

Nor would you if you weren't a simple tool of satan.

Deceived Muslim after deceived Muslim has come to me defending that Islam is not antichrist, having been deluded by Deedat into believing that God's Word supports them. Showing me the verses.
When they then see the plain truth of the actual verses that describe it, then it's the old "well we don't believe everything in the bible". Do you see how peculiar that is?
One can't pick and choose from the bible like: "well this seems to support Islam so I believe this, oh but this doesn't so it must be a lie".

If anyone is decieved I think it would be you, You have an issue with deedat's qoutation of a verse, and not even tried to understand what he stated.

Deluded Muslim after deluded Muslim quotes to me Deedat's false verse actually believing that the bible supports antichrist Islam. Then when I show them the next verse they give me the ole' "well the bible is corrupt" stuff. Do you see how laughable that is? At least it would be if 1.5 billion folks in the world weren't taking Mohammed's ride to perdition. But it ain't Disney my frined.
1John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:

 Can you find me where in the quran we are told that Jesus is not the Christ?  But I guess to a christians as yourself you deny that Jesus is the Christ and only accept a man with a last name of Christ  we don't accept the last name we accept the description.

You still pretend that partly qualifying will help. But it won't. You deny the Son of God. You are antichrist.

You started again on this verse that deedat qouted im not going to keep repeating what I said about this, tell me that deedat was wrong in saying that Jesus Christ = Jesus is the Christ.

Irrelavant for you. You even deny that Jesus died on the Cross to save you from your sins. Nothing else matters.

Islam is antichrist. "Shirk", manifest in declaration that God has no Son, is the most important fundamental in Islam.
That's why the one of Islam is opposite of the God of Christians and Jews at every turn.

Yes it is fundamental in islam that the ascribing of partners to god is forbidden, I am not going to sit here and tell you that this is FORBIDDEN in islam.  And as I explained to you about the sura 9:30 that you keep qouting, this is a fundamental fact that god curses those that ascribe partners to him.

Indeed. Islam is satan's book, denying the only begotten Son of God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZvFvObWF7I

Denying the blood of the Lamb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK3Rgcw5lDw

Muslims - all Gentiles - MUST CHOOSE between the 1600 year record of the revelation of God to mankind, expressed in His Word through the prophets, and masses of witnesses.

You are going to show yourself as a hyprocrite here, you talk about age of documents, ok lets look at age of documents, the Hindu scriptures which is tied to a living religion today has been dated back 5000 years ago and is compiled by various authors.  So according to your hyprocritical statement about age and various authors, if you truly stand by what you say you should convert to a hindu, ofcourse you know you wont do that, but you as well as I know that god did not incarnate as a monkey named Hanuman that helped God fight the devil.  But based on your logic of old and multiple writers this is the religion you should follow.

You are welcome to become a Hindu.
I will follow the 1600 year record of God to mankind through all of the prophets and legions of witnesses that are the Holy Bible. You can continue to follow the 23 year record of the unwitnessed revelations of a single 7th century illiterate INDIVIDUAL whose life and book is the opposite of God's revelation of Himself to mankind. Just remember, your life on this earth is but a fart in a global windstorm compared to your life to come. You are determining how you are going to spend that eternal life as you write. You could die today.

You talk about God's love, is it just me or if I open the bible I find that god commanded not only the killing of men, and women, but wanted virgins kept alive?  

1John 4:7  Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10  Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/first_epistle_john.htm#1_john_4

Tell me is that the only love your god shares for virgins?  Numbers 31:17-18 and read in verse 40 to see that god got 32 of the virgins.

To my Muslim could-become brethren, we exhort you to come into the love and the light of the one true God:

I invite you to Islam, to the religion of ONE god, who has no partners, who is self sufficient, who is merciful and just.

Islam is the record of the rantings of an illiterate 7th century murdering, pillaging, plundering, imperialistic conquerer who stands for sexual enslavment of women taken as war "booty".
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=AhmadsQuran3&p=r

I invite you to the path that leads to heaven not the path that leads to Hell.

But from the false prophet's book you even expect that YOU HAVE TO PASS by/through hell before proceeding on to heaven.
But that is simply another trick of satan, because there is NO COMMUTING BETWEEN HELL AND HEAVEN:

Luke 16:23-29 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that [would come] from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

Even in your bible god is critical of those that ascribe partners to him.  We just like you believe that jesus is the jewish messiah and those wicked and adulterous jews of jesus' time rejected him, you should realize that this makes us closer in faith than the jews, because we accept Jesus, what divides us is you take a man and make him god.

Why not try reading God's Word? Have you ever approached it "as a child", with open eyes and an open heart?

You ask me to approach the bible as a child and read it with an open eye and heart, have you done the same to the quran? If you read the quran in this format you will know it is god talking to you and know that he guides you.  For the parts of the bible I read, you know it is a man recording what he heard or saw, how can I attribute this to god?

The Quran is a rambling self-contradicting pile of reprobate nonsense that calls for men to oppress women, and justifies imperialistic conquest and violence against others as you have fully advocated.
The reason the claim is made that the Quran cannot be translated well is because about 1/5 of it's content is too unintelligible in Arabic to be understood.
Additionally, it would be about 1/5 it's length if the repetition were removed.
Repetition in God's Word is about multiple witnesses. Mohammed's so-called "revelations" were entirely unwitnesses.
However that doesn't mean that I believe Mohammed's words were uninspired, just that satan would have to be the inspiration of a book so opposite to the Word of God.