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Re: Parallels between Roman Catholicism and Islam
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2012, 12:40:30 PM »
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Re: Parallels between Roman Catholicism and Islam
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2012, 11:38:32 AM »
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1. Both have censored the differing points of view through murder
Both engaged in this kind of murder, because of an inability to defend indefensible doctrine.
Whether the Papal murder of Christian reformers, while - at least historically - teaching that non-Catholics are headed to hell.
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Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

2. Both the Roman Church and Islam have expressed hatred for Jews
Pope Stephen III: "With great sorrow and mortal anxiety, We have heard that the Jews have in a Christian land the same rights as Christians, that Christian men and women live under the same roof with these traitors and defile their souls day and night with blasphemies." (Epistle to the Bishop of Norbonne)
Pope Clement VIII: "The Bible itself says that the Jews are an accursed people."
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Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'"Bukhari V4 B52 #176

3. Death penalty for apostasy
"On the 31st of December, 1869, I forced the Rt. Rev. Bishop Foley, of Chicago, to swear before the civil court, at Kankakee, that the following sentence was an exact translation of the doctrine of the Church of Rome as taught today in all the Roman Catholic seminaries, colleges, and universities, through the "Summa Theologica" of Thomas Aquinas (vol. iv. p. 90). "Though heretics must not be tolerated because they deserve it, we must bear with them till, by a second admonition, they may be brought back to the faith of the church. But those who, after a second admonition, remain obstinate to their errors, must not only be excommunicated, but they must be delivered to the secular power to be exterminated."
http://www.biblebelievers.com/chiniquy/cc50_ch67.html
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Youtube search or Google - death for apostasy in Islam

4. Both believe they enter their religions as infants
The Roman Church teaches that one becomes a Christian by having a Priest sprinkle "holy water" on one's head, though there is no example of infant baptism in scripture.
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Islam teaches that if one is born to Muslim parents, then one is born a Muslim. Even that all people are born Muslims, and comically, those that "convert" to Islam are actually believed to be "reverts" back to what they were born as.

5. Anti-intellectualism
"In an age of barbarism the popes led the pack, in an age of enlightenment they trailed the field." - Peter de Rosa
Persecution of "heretics" like Galileo for understanding scientific principles, etc. etc.
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"The history of Islam has been one of anti-intellectualism. Islam inherited a vast body of information from the Greeks, but eventually did little with it. The answer is found in the educational system of early and later Islam."

".....the Arab world translates just 330 books every year, about 20% of what Greece alone does."
"In the last 1,200 years years of Islam, just 100,000 books have been translated into Arabic, about what Spain does in a single year. Seven out of 10 Turks have never even read a book."

6. Lying for God
"It is often more to the glory of God and the good of our neighbor to cover the faith than to confess it; for example, if concealed among heretics, you may accomplish a greater amount of good; or if, by declaring our religion, more of evil would follow - for example, great trouble, death, the hostility of a tyrant." (liguori, "Theologia Moralis, t. ii n. 14, p 117 Mechlin, 1845.)
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Google the Islamic concept of "taqiyyah", or lying in the way of Allah - Islamic subterfuge or dissimulation.

7. Repetitive prayer - Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
In the Catholic Rosary recital "hail Mary full of grace" is repeated 53 times in a standard Rosary (as an aside, according to scripture, it is Jesus alone that is full of grace).
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From "Infidel" Ali explains part of salat, "You say Praise be to Allah thirty-three times; God forgive me thirty-three times; Allah is great thirty-three times; and then, if you choose, you may also say Gratitude to Allah."
That's a total of 495 repetitions of just those first three prayers - every day - because Muslims are commanded to perform salat fives times a day.

8. Both use beads to keep track of repetitive prayers.

9. Idolatry - though Roman Catholics and Muslims both deny it.
Roman Catholics venerate statues and Orthodox venerate icons
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Muslims prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day. Even travel to it and march around it, and kiss it as Muhammad did.

10. Veneration of Mary - "It is a fact that Moslems from various nations, especially from the Middle East, make so many pilgrimages to Our Lady of Fatima's Shrine in Portugal that Portuguese officials have expressed concern. The combination of an Islamic name and Islamic devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary is a great attraction to Moslems. God is writing straight with crooked lines, as we will see. Fatima is a part of Heaven's Peace Plan. It is hope for the world."
http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/OLISLAM.HTM

11. Imperialistic conquest and subjugation of others to their religion. Crusades, inquisitions, etc. Pope even supporting the "New World Order" (in which he would presumably be the voice of Christianity)
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Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle.....

12. Conquering also through population. The Pope populating with Roman Catholics deprived of birth control.
Another device is through questions asked of married women at auricular confession.
In the early days of the U.S. the Roman church putting efforts into populating U.S. cities with Irish Catholics to take over U.S. politics beginning in population centers.
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Google - Muslim population demographics conquest

13. Both are religions of salvation through works that teach that we earn our own way to heaven through our own good deeds, rather than salvation being a gift of God through faith.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Misunderstanding that good deeds and works are the RESULT of salvation, NOT the path to it:
Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

14. Propitiation of sin promised by leaders, for shedding the blood of others while engaged in imperialistic conquest.

"If those who go thither lose their lives on land or sea during the journey, or in battle against the pagans, their sins will at once be forgiven; I grant this through the power of God conferred on me... 11"
http://www.provethebible.net/T2-Hist/H-0501.htm
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Propitiation of sin through the first drop of blood spilled by an Islamic so-called "martyr" (who dies inadvertently while in the act of slaughtering others during imperialistic conquest) .....

"The Sword is the key of heaven and hell; a drop of blood shed in the cause of Allah, a night spent in arms, is of more avail than two months of fasting and prayer; whoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven, and at the day of judgment his limbs shall be supplied by the wings of angels and cherubim."

Sahih Muslim Book #020, Hadith #4681 The tradition has been narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Qais. He heard it from his father who, while facing the enemy, reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Surely, the gates of paradise are under the shadows of the swords. A man in a shabby condition got up and said; Abu Musa, did you hear the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say this? He said: Yes. (The narrator said): He returned to his friends and said: I greet you (a farewell greeting). Then he broke the sheath of his sword, threw it away, advanced with his (naked) sword towards the enemy and fought (them) with it until he was slain.