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Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« on: November 14, 2009, 08:47:04 AM »
This how Beast murdered our muslims borther and sister :

An iraqi girl been raped by usa force and than they burned  her :

http://www.asiantribune.com/sites/asiantribune.com/files/2pic.JPG

http://www.asiantribune.com/sites/asiantribune.com/files/1Pic_0.JPG

Americans raping 12-year-olds
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?...

American monsters used child prostitutes
http://www.atlargely.com/atlargely/20...
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/190...
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=...

Abu Ghraib photos shows rape of women & children
http://informationclearinghouse.info/...
http://www.infowars.com/us-military-i...

Photos show detainees sodomized & raped
http://informationclearinghouse.info/...

U.S. raped prisoners with broken bottles, revealed former British ambassador Craig Murray. This is the immoral horror that is OK, when its done by The White Man, but terrorism when its done by others
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/ambassado...
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/V...
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?o...

Ugly American: CIA terrorist druged & raped girls in Algeria
http://www.infowars.com/the-ugly-amer...

According to Human Rights activists & former prisoners, female detainees are being raped by U.S. troops
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail.aspx?id=...

U.S. soldiers raping Iraqi women
http://www.democracynow.org/2005/3/29...

U.S. torturing females in Afghan prisons
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail.aspx?id=...
http://www.aztlan.net/strange_case_of...

American soldiers raped & executed Iraqi child & her family
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/wor...

Drunken American troops took turns to rape Iraqi child
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/midd...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/18/sol...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wor...

Rape of women by American Occupation Forces
http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_rap...

U.S. troops raped & burned Iraqi child
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news...

American soldier admits Iraq girl rape
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_eas...

U.S. soldier poured kerosene on raped, slain Iraqi
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/0...

U.S. soldier described rapes & murders
http://www.informationclearinghouse.i...

Rape, Murder, & the American GI
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/40481/

American soldiers played golf before raping child
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/...

Americans admit boys were sodomized in Iraq prison
http://www.truthnews.us/?p=2935
http://www.infowars.com/us-officials-...

American soldiers regularly rape Japanese women
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009...

British soldiers gang-raped & mutilated Iraqi civilians
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep...


Remember what jesus(Christian version) told  you in  gospel accourding to Luke 19:27

New International Version (1984)
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"

New American Standard Bible (1995)
"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."

International Standard Version (2008)
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!'"

GOD'S WORD- Translation (1995)
Bring my enemies, who didn't want me to be their king. Kill them in front of me.'"

King James Bible
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2009, 10:19:56 AM »
This how Beast murdered our muslims borther and sister :

An iraqi girl been raped by usa force and than they burned  her :

http://www.asiantribune.com/sites/asiantribune.com/files/2pic.JPG

http://www.asiantribune.com/sites/asiantribune.com/files/1Pic_0.JPG

If you do this again you will be banned.
The pictures are divorced from any context. Indeed from the source link it is likely an Asian girl, not Iraqi.
Folks are not allowed to make up their own fantasies and post them in this forum.

But why on earth would a Muslim be complaining about soldiers raping women? It is what Mohammed and his boys were all about. Their MO. Capturing, raping and sexually enslaving women as spoils of war. The Quran calls for it.

"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives ... and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ... this only for thee, and not for believers [at large]; we know what we have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hand possess; - in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And God is oft-forgiving, most merciful. (Sura 33:50-51)

Even pimping them out.

Sura 24:33:..But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),    

So when they don't desire chastity, pimp them out and make a gain. Perhaps they want to share in the gain or maybe get some distance from her filthy captor for a little while.
But then even if you compel them, Allah is forgiving!
Pretty convenient god for an army of imperialistic, murdering thieves.


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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2009, 10:47:06 AM »
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New International Version (1984)
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"

New American Standard Bible (1995)
"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."

International Standard Version (2008)
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!'"

GOD'S WORD- Translation (1995)
Bring my enemies, who didn't want me to be their king. Kill them in front of me.'"

King James Bible
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

You muslims never come up with anything new do you. Are you just a illiterate as your raping, murdering, thieving, pedophile of a prophet. IF, and that is a huge if, you had read the rest of the chapter you would have seen that these verses come at the end of a story or parable. The one speaking in this verse is a character in that parable. This, unlike all the passages in the koran that call for violence against non-believers, was not an open ended command to kill anyone. So you can try to peddle your lies as Muhammad did or you can just give reading the gospels a chance and see what happens.
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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2009, 11:31:56 AM »
Remember what jesus(Christian version) told  you in  gospel accourding to Luke 19:27

New International Version (1984)
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"

New American Standard Bible (1995)
"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."

International Standard Version (2008)
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!'"

GOD'S WORD- Translation (1995)
Bring my enemies, who didn't want me to be their king. Kill them in front of me.'"

King James Bible
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Who was being quoted as saying those words?

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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2009, 02:59:33 PM »
You muslims never come up with anything new do you. Are you just a illiterate as your raping, murdering, thieving, pedophile of a prophet. IF, and that is a huge if, you had read the rest of the chapter you would have seen that these verses come at the end of a story or parable. The one speaking in this verse is a character in that parable. This, unlike all the passages in the koran that call for violence against non-believers, was not an open ended command to kill anyone. So you can try to peddle your lies as Muhammad did or you can just give reading the gospels a chance and see what happens. 0)))))))))))


the same for you take half of the verses and past over here . muslims are not allowed to kill non believers even mohamed (PBUH) said  i will be against you (ment us the muslims )  in the day of judment  .


Find an excuse for this :

And Moses said to them: "Have you kept all the women alive? 16 Look, these women caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the LORD in the incident of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 17 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man intimately. 18 But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately. 19
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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2009, 07:48:11 AM »
the same for you take half of the verses and past over here . muslims are not allowed to kill non believers even mohamed (PBUH) said  i will be against you (ment us the muslims )  in the day of judment  .

False. Your lies are directly contradicted by the Quran

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

8.67 It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

You are ignoring 1400 years of imperialistic rape, pillage, plunder and slaughter of Islamic Jihad. Whether the First Islamic Jihad that slaughtered all the way up to Tours France and Vienna Austria, or today's Second Jihad with over 14,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=731.0

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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2009, 11:08:52 AM »
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Find an excuse for this :

And Moses said to them: "Have you kept all the women alive? 16 Look, these women caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the LORD in the incident of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 17 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man intimately. 18 But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately. 19

If you had read even this verse you will clearly see that the command came was given because the people in question had led Israel into idolatry and caused a plague to spread among them. The command was given as a precaution so that it didn't happen again. Secondly it is contained within the context of history. In other words the command is given to a specific people, at a specific time, for a specific purpose and was not ever to be taken as an open ended command to kill. Nice try but you will have to do better. Problem is all you are armed with is Muhammad's word on the matter and even he had a difficult time answering his critics. So difficult in fact he had them murdered.
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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2009, 04:19:17 PM »
I read the verses well . it's speaking of moses saying to to kill every male and ever female have sex with man , but leaven young girls for you . but by the way let say that i am wrong about the verses what about the crimes that western soldiers did to muslims
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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2009, 11:05:15 PM »
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I read the verses well . it's speaking of moses saying to to kill every male and ever female have sex with man

I never said that Moses did not tell the Israelites to kill the males and keep the virgins. I said that it was punishment for leading Israel into idolotry and bringing a plague on them. Furthermore, like most muslims you missed the WHOLE point of the reply. That this isn't an open ended command from God to kill people who don't believe like us. It was an historical event that is kept completely within the context of history. An order given to a specific people, at a specific time, for a specific purpose. This is completely different than the violence in the koran because it leaves the command to kill open to all muslims in perpetuity.

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but by the way let say that i am wrong about the verses what about the crimes that western soldiers did to muslims

What about it? You seem to be laboring under the delusion that all people in the western hemisphere are Christian. IF a western soldier has ever done anything wrong to a muslim then he most certainly is not Christian despite what he might say or you think. You know why? As Christians we can recoginize our own by this.

Jhn 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. 

So you can try to draw parallels between Islamic violence and Christianity but you will fail to do so as all who have tried to do have.

Doth that man love his Lord who would be willing to see Jesus wearing a crown of thorns, while for himself he craves a chaplet of laurel? Shall Jesus ascend to his throne by the cross, and do we expect to be carried there on the shoulders of applauding crowds? Charles H. Spurgeon

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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 07:31:15 AM »
... but by the way let say that i am wrong about the verses what about the crimes that western soldiers did to muslims

Irrelevant (and just look at your ridiculous sources!).
You are resorting to the typical Muslim fallback of pretending that western culture, or the U.S., or the military = Christianity, which of course is false.  
You seek out lies - however non-credible the source - to support your mind full of lies, because you follow the father of lies. The spirit of antichrist has inverted your understanding of good and evil.

Reply to the posts above accessed by the links below. Continuing to ignore them is not an option since this is your thread.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=828.msg3251#msg3251
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=828.msg3276#msg3276
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=828.msg3257#msg3257

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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 10:02:55 AM »
Look at your excuses about that .

First this source from  western website  like bbc .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6152118.stm

there is some picture if you want a proof .

you Nazis has fallen to spread lies about islam in the world and now every crime that you did aren't forbbiden .

The issue is one of morality or, more specifically, the lack of it. The zionists and the west seems to believe two things: first that they are the owners and keepers of all moral standards and second that they can impose these upon the rest of the world by any means. Now we've seen what this way of thinking and acting has led to: double standards of measuring and the loss through arrogance, of any form of moral behavior.

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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 12:30:56 PM »
What do you not understand about this? WESTERN DOES NOT EQUAL CHRISTIANITY. We have atheists, pagans, agnostics and all sorts of people over here. The world is not evenly divided into Christian and muslim.

Nazis are not Christians because they practice hate. A practice that is particularly condemned in the Bible.

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.  


Mat 5:21 - Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:  

Mat 5:22   But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.  

The Nazis were friends of Islam. Hitler had two Islamic Panzer divisions. And the Mufti of Jerusalem welcomed Hitler with open arms. Hitlers hate of the Jews was only ever equaled by Muhammad's. Try again.
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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 03:28:23 PM »
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The Nazis were friends of Islam. Hitler had two Islamic Panzer divisions. And the Mufti of Jerusalem welcomed Hitler with open arms. Hitlers hate of the Jews was only ever equaled by Muhammad's. Try again

is that joke ? when hitler was teen he was one of those who are called soldier of Christ , and he have many Christian friend too , and remembered he said that i will kill arabs after he finish the west because we are cousin to jew form abraham . nice try .


and quran foribde killing of others :


.....So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person - unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth - it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur'an 5: 32)



"Those who do not call on any other god together with Allah and do not kill anyone God has made inviolate, except with the right to do so, and do not fornicate; anyone who does that will receive an evil punishment" (Qur'an 25: 68)



Say: 'Come and I will recite to you what your Lord has made forbidden for you': that you do not associate anything with Him; that you are good to your parents; that you do not kill your children because of poverty - We will provide for you and them; that you do not approach indecency - outward or inward; that you do not kill any person God has made inviolate - except with the right to do so. That is what He instructs you to do so that hopefully you will use your intellect. (Qur'an 6: 151



Those who act cruelly and unjustly in the sacred lands, those who yearn for the ways of the ignorant and those who wrongly shed human blood.' (Reported in Bukhari)
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2009, 07:32:27 AM »
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The Nazis were friends of Islam. Hitler had two Islamic Panzer divisions. And the Mufti of Jerusalem welcomed Hitler with open arms. Hitlers hate of the Jews was only ever equaled by Muhammad's. Try again

is that joke ? when hitler was teen he was one of those who are called soldier of Christ , and he have many Christian friend too , and remembered he said that i will kill arabs after he finish the west because we are cousin to jew form abraham . nice try .


and quran foribde killing of others :


.....So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person - unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth - it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur'an 5: 32)



"Those who do not call on any other god together with Allah and do not kill anyone God has made inviolate, except with the right to do so, and do not fornicate; anyone who does that will receive an evil punishment" (Qur'an 25: 68)



Say: 'Come and I will recite to you what your Lord has made forbidden for you': that you do not associate anything with Him; that you are good to your parents; that you do not kill your children because of poverty - We will provide for you and them; that you do not approach indecency - outward or inward; that you do not kill any person God has made inviolate - except with the right to do so. That is what He instructs you to do so that hopefully you will use your intellect. (Qur'an 6: 151



Those who act cruelly and unjustly in the sacred lands, those who yearn for the ways of the ignorant and those who wrongly shed human blood.' (Reported in Bukhari)

You miss the whole point. You are pretending that the non-islamic world is Christian but that is simply not true. As if the criminal activity in the OP were somehow sanctioned within Christianity.
Even if all of the charges in your original post were true, every one of those activities would be considered unlawful under all non-islamic secular state laws, under all non-islamic military laws, and hated by God Himself.
That means that the entirety of your OP is irrelevant and has nothing whatsoever to do with the Islam and Christian discussions in this forum. The thread belongs in a political forum.

EXCEPT for the fact that Mohammed's phony god allah sanctions the capture, rape and pressing into sexual slavery of women taken as spoils of war. Mohammed's phony book approves it

"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ... this only for thee, and not for believers [at large]; we know what we have appointed for them as to their wives and the  captives whom their right hand possess; - in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And God is oft-forgiving, most merciful. (Sura 33:50-51)

So your phony god makes "lawful" the rape and sexual enslavement of women taken as spoils of war.
Even pimping them out as prostitutes.

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),    

So when they don't desire chastity, pimp them out and make a gain. Perhaps they want to share in the gain or maybe get some distance from her filthy captor for a little while.
But then even if you compel them, Allah is forgiving!
Pretty convenient god for an army of imperialistic, conquering, murdering thieves.

You need to answer these posts:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=828.msg3276#msg3276
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=828.msg3257#msg3257

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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2009, 07:41:38 AM »
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The Nazis were friends of Islam. Hitler had two Islamic Panzer divisions. And the Mufti of Jerusalem welcomed Hitler with open arms. Hitlers hate of the Jews was only ever equaled by Muhammad's. Try again

is that joke ? when hitler was teen he was one of those who are called soldier of Christ ,....

But it's easy to see that he wasn't. Indeed the famous satanist Madame Blavatsky's book was found in his nightstand as his bedtime reading. He was into the occult. Here is how we know he wasn't a Christian:

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

You see, instead of love for Jews, Hitler hated Jews and wanted them exterminated, just like the Jew hating Mohammed did, and his followers unto today.

...... and he have many Christian friend too , and remembered he said that i will kill arabs after he finish the west because we are cousin to jew form abraham . nice try .

It's a matter of historical fact that the Islamic Mufti of Jerusalem worked hand in hand with Hitler in genocide of Jews. It's a matter of historical fact that there were 2 Islamic panzer divisions in Hitler's army - and more. Here is footage of the Mufti and Hitler:
http://www.youtube.com/user/brotherjw#p/f/18/iZHWhsc7wvg

All you have to do is yahoo the subject, but you won't. You have to pretend history doesn't exist, whether Muslims own Islamic history from your hadith that exposes the reprobate nature of your false prophet, or any other history that demonstrates Mohammed's religion as being nothing more than murderous and reprobate.
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu5cUowJL_BcBpllXNyoA?p=islamic+mufti+jerusalem+hitler+genocide+jews&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701&sao=0

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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2009, 11:35:09 AM »
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and quran foribde killing of others :


.....So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person - unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth - it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur'an 5: 32)


Wow. I am soooo surprised you used this verse. Assuming you aren't as illiterate as Muhammad read the verse slowly. "SO WE DECREED FOR THE TRIBE OF ISRAEL". This verse speaks nothing of muslims or anyone else.

Let's do a little exegesis.

33. The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.

34. Except for those who (having fled away and then) came back (as Muslims) with repentance before they fall into your power; in that case, know that Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

35. O you who believe! Do your duty to Allah and fear Him. Seek the means of approach to Him, and strive hard in His Cause (jihad) as much as you can. So that you may be successful.


So muslims are still free to kill non-muslims. Gotcha

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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2009, 11:51:12 AM »
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You miss the whole point. You are pretending that the non-islamic world is Christian but that is simply not true. As if the criminal activity in the OP were somehow sanctioned within Christianity.
Even if all of the charges in your original post were true, every one of those activities would be considered unlawful under all non-islamic secular state laws, under all non-islamic military laws, and hated by God Himself.
That means that the entirety of your OP is irrelevant and has nothing whatsoever to do with the discussions in this forum. The thread belongs in a political forum.

EXCEPT for the fact that Mohammed's phony god allah sanctions the capture, rape and pressing into sexual slavery of women taken as spoils of war. Mohammed's phony book approves it

"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ... this only for thee, and not for believers [at large]; we know what we have appointed for them as to their wives and the  captives whom their right hand possess; - in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And God is oft-forgiving, most merciful. (Sura 33:50-51)

So your phony god makes "lawful" the rape and sexual enslavement of women taken as spoils of war.
Even pimping them out as prostitutes.

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),   

So when they don't desire chastity, pimp them out and make a gain. Perhaps they want to share in the gain or maybe get some distance from her filthy captor for a little while.
But then even if you compel them, Allah is forgiving!




Pretty convenient god for an army of imperialistic, conquering, murdering thieves.


I am not missing the whole point . hitler was christian in his teen age . Christian love ? that is big lie the murdering of jews was before medieval time .


Mohamed  (PBUH) was not murdered but you christian are  even in modern time.

God want  virgin woman .


 32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.

 36 The half share of those who fought in the battle was:
       337,500 sheep, 37 of which the tribute for the LORD was 675;

 38 36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the LORD was 72;

 39 30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the LORD was 61;

 40 16,000 people, of which the tribute for the LORD was 32.
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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2009, 11:55:47 AM »
No you lair you just want to justify your crime by saying it was done by muslims .

Muslims how save jews in WWII :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y61RAP4joWU

Muslims aren't free to kill people it forbbiden but christian are free because thier sins are already forgiven so no need to worry .

this how you love other people .

a.Don't eat any dead animals that you find lying around. But it's okay to give it to strangers or sell it to foreigners (Deut 14:21)
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2009, 01:39:40 PM »
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No you lair you just want to justify your crime by saying it was done by muslims .

Muslims how save jews in WWII :


Hitler could have called himself whatever he wished but it didn't make it so. Jesus gave Christians specific instructions on what not to do. One of those things is not to hate and murder. Anyone who is doing this is not a Christian.

Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Since Hitler violated these commands it doesn't matter what he called himself. He also said Jesus wasn't a Jew, but we both know Jesus was in fact a Jew.

The point is I can call myself a flying, purple people eater. It doesn't make it true.

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Muslims aren't free to kill people it forbbiden but christian are free because thier sins are already forgiven so no need to worry .

this how you love other people .

a.Don't eat any dead animals that you find lying around. But it's okay to give it to strangers or sell it to foreigners (Deut 14:21)
 

Well if you believe muslims aren't allowed to kill people I wish you had been able to clue Muhammad in on that because he commanded muslims to do just that. For no other reason than the fact they would not accept him as a prophet. Remember what he said to his own tribe for rejecting his claims.

"I will bring you slaughter"

Your understanding of sin in Christianity is about as good as your understanding of history. You aren't allowed to commit sin as much as you want and you are good to go. You can get forgiveness for sin if you truly repent and mean not to do it again. It takes a loving heart to truly repent.

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a.Don't eat any dead animals that you find lying around. But it's okay to give it to strangers or sell it to foreigners (Deut 14:21)


You keep quoting from OT laws given to the Jews. These laws were to keep them healthy and upright before God. They were to guide them so that they would be found holy before God. At this time they were the ONLY holy people on earth and so had to stay that way. Furthermore what has this to do with your post. Changing the subject again?

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I am not missing the whole point . hitler was christian in his teen age . Christian love ? that is big lie the murdering of jews was before medieval time .


Mohamed  (PBUH) was not murdered but you christian are  even in modern time.

God want  virgin woman .


 32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.

 36 The half share of those who fought in the battle was:
       337,500 sheep, 37 of which the tribute for the LORD was 675;

 38 36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the LORD was 72;

 39 30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the LORD was 61;

 40 16,000 people, of which the tribute for the LORD was 32.
 

You are missing the whole point. You suggest that the whole western world is Christian and every bad thing that happens is a reflection on Christianity. That simply is not true.

I have already addressed your claims on Hitler above so I will not waste my time again.

And again you are quoting from the OT. God didn't want the virgins. He just would not allow them to be killed since they had not yet been defiled. The people the Israelites were fighting with were evil and idolotors who made human sacrafice. This was something God simply could not allow to continue. What do you not understand about that?
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Re: Jesus love( Christian version) but isa (PBUH) was mercful
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2009, 08:00:17 AM »
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You miss the whole point. You are pretending that the non-islamic world is Christian but that is simply not true. As if the criminal activity in the OP were somehow sanctioned within Christianity.
Even if all of the charges in your original post were true, every one of those activities would be considered unlawful under all non-islamic secular state laws, under all non-islamic military laws, and hated by God Himself.
That means that the entirety of your OP is irrelevant and has nothing whatsoever to do with the discussions in this forum. The thread belongs in a political forum.

EXCEPT for the fact that Mohammed's phony god allah sanctions the capture, rape and pressing into sexual slavery of women taken as spoils of war. Mohammed's phony book approves it

"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ... this only for thee, and not for believers [at large]; we know what we have appointed for them as to their wives and the  captives whom their right hand possess; - in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And God is oft-forgiving, most merciful. (Sura 33:50-51)

So your phony god makes "lawful" the rape and sexual enslavement of women taken as spoils of war.
Even pimping them out as prostitutes.

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),    

So when they don't desire chastity, pimp them out and make a gain. Perhaps they want to share in the gain or maybe get some distance from her filthy captor for a little while.
But then even if you compel them, Allah is forgiving!




Pretty convenient god for an army of imperialistic, conquering, murdering thieves.


I am not missing the whole point . hitler was christian in his teen age .

Again, repeating a lie, does not make it more true, but makes you more of a liar. Hitler was never a Christian as proven by the scriptures that I presented to you.
There has never been a shortage of people that profess themselves to be Christian that aren't. Roman Catholics believe that one becomes a Christian when a priest sprinkles water on one's head as an infant, but this is false.
One becomes a Christian through a circumcision of the heart. One becomes a changed person and is called out of the kingdoms of this world and enters the kingdom of God.

Christian love ? that is big lie the murdering of jews was before medieval time .

While the Roman Church was responsible for the murder of millions of Jews, Muslims and Christians, those murderous acts were not Christian. The book of Revelation describes the Roman Church as that Great Whore. Here is how we know those acts were specifically UNChristian

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


Mohamed  (PBUH) was not murdered....

Mohammed was technically murdered by poisoning. However he got such a small dose that it took him a couple of years to succumb to it's effects.
.... but you christian are  even in modern time.

But you are straying off subject. You posted regarding a bunch of unproven allegations of behavior of individual soldiers which are all illegal under any laws, secular or God's.

But you failed to answer to the atrocities sanctioned by your Allah, specifically the capture, rape and sexual enslavement of women and girls taken as spoils of war. By continuing to not answer to this all your are doing is proving that you share your false prophet's cowardice. Here is your phony god Allah sanctioning rape and sexually enslaving of prisoners (in the 7th century):

"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives... and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ... this only for thee, and not for believers [at large]; we know what we have appointed for them as to their wives and the  captives whom their right hand possess; - in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And God is oft-forgiving, most merciful. (Sura 33:50-51)

Why is it you repeatedly refuse to answer to the reprobate nature of Mohammed and his "Allah" revealed in the verse above?