"The term 'begotten' was put in the bible later. Scholars have thrown it out."

[Peter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY7Rb_4xUTg
First, we have over 5300 partial or complete manuscripts of God's Word that were penned prior to 300AD, in virtually every language that was known to man, that were read all over the known world.
To suggest it was tampered with would require that scribes from Syria, Babylonia, Galatia, Asia, India, Rome, Egypt, Greece, Carthage, Tarshish and Macedonia - to name a few - all made the same mistake, at the same time, for the same doctrinal purpose. Preposterous notion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqaTORB5WdU

Next lets look at the Koine Greek from the Textus Receptus or majority Greek Text:

(KJV) 1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

The reference to "Him that begat" is of course a reference to God and "that is begotten of him" to Jesus Christ and His having been conceived by a virgin by the will of God. Of course nothing to do with God actually having sex with Mary, as some 7th century desert dwelling illiterate might imagine, yet Mary did conceive God's only begotten Son. Even Muslims believe Jesus was uniquely created, in just this way, from all other people born in the history of the world. They would say that God said "be", and Mary became pregnant with Jesus.

The Greek word translated as "begat" from Strong's definitions:

him that begat
New Testament Greek Definition:
1080 gennao {ghen-nah'-o}
from a variation of 1085; TDNT - 1:665,114; v
AV - begat 49, be born 39, bear 2, gender 2, bring forth 1,
be delivered 1, misc 3; 97
1) of men who fathered children
1a) to be born
1b) to be begotten
1b1) of women giving birth to children
2) metaph.
2a) to engender, cause to arise, excite
2b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his
way of life, to convert someone
2c) of God making Christ his son
2d) of God making men his sons through faith in Christ's work

We can see from the word count that the Greek word "gennao" is translated as "begat" (or "begotten") 49 times in the King James bible.
To make the preposterously ignorant claim that it is translated wrong in the above verse, would obviously require that ALL 49 INSTANCES OF IT WERE TRANSLATED WRONG because "gennao" is the same word used in each instance.

Please visit thread "Jesus is the only begotten Son of God": http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=55.0

[vaheedkhan]

It means born, i speak greek, study the old ancient and speak, and speak the modern one as well...Learn in the old dictionairy (begotten)...

[Peter]

It means born, i speak greek, study the old ancient and speak, and speak the modern one as well...Learn in the old dictionairy (begotten)...

Strong's is an interlinear for 1st century Koine Greek to English. That is what I quoted above that showed the the Koine Greek term gennao is translated as "begat" on 49 occasions in the KJV.
Didn't you read the original post?

[Peter]

An example from our buddy Dazednconfused. Also offers insight into the futility of trying to stay on a topic with such.

[[[[[Re: Brotherjw YT PROFILE Part 04 Jan 04, 2010
[[[[[Brotherjw YT PROFILE Part 04


××× 12). Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and WITHOUT SHEDDING OF BLOOD IS NO REMISSION.

>>> To prove the credibility of Pauls account, first answer point 03 above !

××× That's easy. Pauls accounts are cooberated throughout the Gospel by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's accounts.

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

>>> UNBELIEVABLE !

YOU !

a Bible Scholar NOT aware the word BEGOTTEN was discovered by 32 Christian Scholars of the Highest Eminence led by Bruce Metzger and backed by 50 Co-Operating Denominations

to be An Interpolation, A Later Addition, A FABRICATION ! and

THROWN OUT OF THE WINDOW !

Check RSV Bible, NIV Bible and several others !

××× 13). Rom 6:23 For the WAGES OF SIN [is] DEATH; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

>>> see above]]]]] (later note: of course the "above" didn't answer to the original point of blood sacrifice to atone for sin, at all)


Sure. That's why the Koine Greek term "gennao" is translated as "begat" and "begotten" on 49 other occasions.

1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

him that begat
New Testament Greek Definition:
1080 gennao {ghen-nah'-o}
from a variation of 1085; TDNT - 1:665,114; v
AV - begat 49, be born 39, bear 2, gender 2, bring forth 1,
be delivered 1, misc 3; 97
1) of men who fathered children
1a) to be born
1b) to be begotten
1b1) of women giving birth to children
2) metaph.
2a) to engender, cause to arise, excite
2b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his
way of life, to convert someone
2c) of God making Christ his son
2d) of God making men his sons through faith in Christ's work

But hey, use a pop bible if you want. Here's the NASB

1 John 5:1 Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him

It says the same thing.
You see, the stupidity of your argument is, that to follow Mohammed you have to deny that Jesus had a father.
You have to deny that Jesus is the Son of God.
Even though at the same time you believe that Jesus is the ONLY person in human history, to be conceived by a virgin, by the will of God.
Can you see how preposterous your position is?