my rant ... Debates with Muslims on Youtube, they never will debate Mohammed!

[MTLbobiras]

I have been involved in many debates with Muslims, my dissapointment is that based on the attitude of "thye never like to clean the garbage from there own backyard but seem to complain to christians hoe they should clean ther trash becuse it's really bad!". What I mean by this is never will they sit and analyze or accept facts that are being said to them regarding that Anti-Christ prophet Mohammed. regardless whether I can give them lots of points straight from there own Holy books (Quran & Hadith) Hadith being the more detailed specific of the two they always turn around and tell me that I am lying or that the hadith is a man-made book that contains errors!!, They only follow the Quran not the Hadith. I then ask them straight out so are you telling me the Hadith is a lie? or is it you that is lying. The never reply, NEVER!  I guess when it's conveneint to lie because Mohammed and the cult of ISLAM is outright exposed, then the hadith is "corrupt or prone to error" If that is not self-denial to the max, then what is? usually they comeback with comments or remarks from the new testament regarding christ, always trying to down play him, back stab him every chance they get. I always follow up, please answer the questions of the "Bogus" prophet. How do you acknowledge such a man, that outright lies, that get's authority from "allah' to lie, this is another self-denial part that needs to get examined, If there' claims that "allah" is all powerfull and wants them to submit, then why would he authorize lying from Mohammed? Why would he turn his eyes when Mohammed put orders directly to assanate some one "because he hurt alla and his appostle" I mean, can muslims not see threw all this smoke? Do they not have a brain like you and I, to really take a step back and say" just a minute, something is really wrong here". I personally believe the majority do. Then again I guess the power of Satan is something Mortals do not understand and I guess this is why these poor souls are trapped, and are like part of a "mafia" so to speak that they cannot question the boss, and if they want out, they pay with there lives (apostacy). Such a pitty, Hopefully Jesus does not take long to come and finally put a stop to all this madness, and get rids of these fornificators of the soul and heart as soon as possible!`

[Mike S]

I have been involved in many debates with Muslims, my dissapointment is that based on the attitude of "thye never like to clean the garbage from there own backyard but seem to complain to christians hoe they should clean ther trash becuse it's really bad!". What I mean by this is never will they sit and analyze or accept facts that are being said to them regarding that Anti-Christ prophet Mohammed. regardless whether I can give them lots of points straight from there own Holy books (Quran & Hadith) Hadith being the more detailed specific of the two they always turn around and tell me that I am lying or that the hadith is a man-made book that contains errors!!, They only follow the Quran not the Hadith. I then ask them straight out so are you telling me the Hadith is a lie? or is it you that is lying. The never reply, NEVER!  I guess when it's conveneint to lie because Mohammed and the cult of ISLAM is outright exposed, then the hadith is "corrupt or prone to error" If that is not self-denial to the max, then what is? usually they comeback with comments or remarks from the new testament regarding christ, always trying to down play him, back stab him every chance they get. I always follow up, please answer the questions of the "Bogus" prophet. How do you acknowledge such a man, that outright lies, that get's authority from "allah' to lie, this is another self-denial part that needs to get examined, If there' claims that "allah" is all powerfull and wants them to submit, then why would he authorize lying from Mohammed? Why would he turn his eyes when Mohammed put orders directly to assanate some one "because he hurt alla and his appostle" I mean, can muslims not see threw all this smoke? Do they not have a brain like you and I, to really take a step back and say" just a minute, something is really wrong here". I personally believe the majority do. Then again I guess the power of Satan is something Mortals do not understand and I guess this is why these poor souls are trapped, and are like part of a "mafia" so to speak that they cannot question the boss, and if they want out, they pay with there lives (apostacy). Such a pitty, Hopefully Jesus does not take long to come and finally put a stop to all this madness, and get rids of these fornificators of the soul and heart as soon as possible!`

Consider the centuries of marriages involving first cousins among the Muslim peoples. That may be why they can't see through all the smoke and mirrors.

Don't give up - but a more fruitful witness would be getting to know some of them personally, and living a righteous life before them.  They will see that you are different from the rest of them. Can't do that on the Internet. Jesus tells us to love our enemies, so we need to see them through God's eyes, not ours.

[MTLbobiras]

Greetings Mike ,


thanks for the kind words of encouragement, I would like to say that I have some muslim friends that I do share time with usually at work and so forth, They are very OK from a people perspective, not violent or anything of that nature, it's the armchair warriors on the internet that are full of hate as they can put on a mask behind the keyboard and spew the filth like they normally do. I know the ones up close, show respect that I am Christian and I show them respect as well, but when it comes down to core belief, I acknowledge Jesus Christ the son of God, the alpha and omega, they don't, and I do not believe that a majority of them do this willingly, I am sure some of them can "see". However they are trapped in this submission cult. and they probably fear for there lively hood as well. again thank for the kind words bro, I appreciate it,very much!

[Mike S]

Hi MTL -

Trapped is a good description of their situation. They are told not to question Islam or Muhammad,and their families will disown them if they convert. Jesus himself said that is the way it would be. Those who see a vision of Christ, however, commit to him  and do not waiver. It has been said that on the average, it takes 7 years of working with a Muslim to bring them to a point of conversion to Christ.
We have to know the religion, and what they believe about Christ and the Bible to be able to break through to them.

Here in the USA, we have had it too easy, and the American Dream has infiltrated our faith. I just finished reading Radical, by David Platt, pastor of The Church at Brook Hills in Birmingham, AL. It is changing the way I view faith, and Jesus's mandates to us. I highly recommend the book. On an aside, the Christians of China are praying that the church in the US undergoes persecution. That seems to be the only way we (as a whole) will wake up. It will definitely weed out many who are just going through the motions, but will strengthen our faith, and cause the Gospel to be spread further. The church in America has become comfortable and fat, and we need to wake up from our slumber.

God Bless -Mike

[Peter]

Hi MTL -

Trapped is a good description of their situation. They are told not to question Islam or Muhammad,and their families will disown them if they convert. Jesus himself said that is the way it would be.

Indeed Mike and in spades! Never hurts to add a verse for our Muslim read-only participants out there.

Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Discussed here.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=213.0