Why Do 1.5 Billion People Today Follow Mohammed?

[Mujaheed]

My friend, it is you that has failed to present a pre-Mohammed historical record of Mecca. Your next adventure of pretending that the Old Testament is about Mecca won't magically create a 2900 year historical record of Mecca either. Nor will hurling unfounded accusations.

YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE HURLING UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS< FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE SEEKING THE TRUTH BE AWARE THAT BROTHER PETE HAS NOTHING TO OFFER BUT HIS VERY WEAK MINDED OPINION< HE HAS BEEN ILL INFORMED AND DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENTER INTO A PROPERE DISCUSSION< EVERY THING COME BACK TO THREE INSULTS< HE BAD MOUTHS THE GREATEST RELIGION ON EARTH< HE BAD MOUTHS CATHOLICS AND ALL THE DENOMINATIONS THAT DIS AGREES WITH HIM< HE BAD MOUTHS JEWS AND ONLY BELIEVES HIS VERSION WITH ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT FOR EVEN A PERSON LIKE ME THAT HAS ACCEPTED JESUS AS THE MESSIAH< HIS VIRGIN BIRTH< HIS SCOND COMING AND THAT HE HAS BEEN SENT TO THE JEWS THAT WENT ASTRAY<

PLEASE DO NOT BE CONFUSD BY HIS PROPAGANDA IT IS NOT RELIGION BUT POLITICS HE SHOULD BE IN. JUST READ HIS POSTS.

You have been shown, that those that you yourself correctly believe to have been 6th century illiterate pagan ignoramuses before Mohammed, couldn't possibly have penned, nor preserved, a historical record of Mecca. Let alone a 2900 year steady stream of ignoramuses before them, penning and preserving a history of Mecca (that the actual record suggests wasn't even settled until the 4th century AD). Nor does any such record exist.

NO YOU HAVE NOT SHOWN ME ANYTHING OTHER THAN OPINIONS THAT ARE NOT BASED ON ANYTHING GODLY! YOU EQUATE ILLITERATE WITH STUPID (HOW FEEBLE MNDED ARE YOU?) YOU CONFUSE THE TRUTH WITH TONS OF POLITICAL RHETORIC< HOW MANY DIED AND YOU ANSWER NONE< ZERO QUESTIONS< SO REALLY HAVE ZERO ABILITY TO ENTER INTO A DISCUSSION OTHER THAN COPY AND PASTE TIRED UNFOUNDED ARGUMENTS.

Therefore even you understand, that all of the Islamic "tradition" that you have been indoctrinated to believe about Mecca, Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael is all created 7th and 8th century fictional poppycock. http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1176.0

FICTIONAL? HAVE YOU BEEN DELUDED INTO THINKING THAT YOU THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAS A VIEW? ARE YOU SO ARROGANT THAT YOU REPEAT A STATEMENT LIKE YOU DO ABOUT THE ILLITTERATE PROPHET AND I HAVE TO BELIEVE YOU WITHOUT SO MUCH AS ASHRED OF EVIDENCE< RON WYATT A CHRISTIAN SCHOLAR HAS PROVEN WHERE SINAI IS WHERE HAGAR IS AND IF YOU TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF <<< LONG ENOUGH YOU WILL GET A GLIMPSE OF TRUTH
PLEASE STOP YOUR BEATING AROUND THE BUSG AND ENTER A DISCUSSION, IF YOU DONT WANT TO LET SOMEONE ELSE DO IT FOR YOU BUT DONT EMBARRASS YOURSELF AND INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE WITH THS NONESENSE OF REPEATING INSULTS, YOU ARE DEGRADING YOURSELF>

As much as you repeatedly try to make it about Dr. Amari, even you can see the ridiculous notion of believing there is a historical record of Mecca, that preceded Mohammed. All Dr. Amari did is point out, that this fact is also confirmed through the actual historical and archaeological records of Arabia.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=56.0
I'm sorry you don't like it my friend, but surely by now even you can see, that is simply the way it is.

RON WYATT PROVED THAT MOSES WAS IN THE ARABIAN PENINSULA DOES THAT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU?
HOW MANY OTHER LIES HAVE THE INTERPRETERS OF THE BIBLE TOLD? ARABIC, ARAMAIC AND HEBREW ARE VERY CLOSE ARE THEY NOT?, WHERE DID INCENSE AND MYRR COME FROM? WHO TRADED WITH JERUSALEM?
HOW MANY TRIBES IN MADINA (YATHRIB AND WHO WERE THEY WAITING FOR.

ALLAH SAYS IN THE QURAN, VERILY YOUR LORD IS ALLAH HE CREATED IN SIX DAYS AND ROSE UPON HIS THRONE. WHER THE HELL DOES AMARI GET OFF ON CALLING (AL_THE IELAAH-GOD) A MOON GOD? YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLES IGNORANCE ON THIS SITE< ARENT YOU) QUESS WHAT< I AM NOT GULLIBLE

Mecca was, is, and will always remain, over 1200 kilometers away from THE Holy Land. [/quote]

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My dear Peter, no amount of truth will change your hard headed misguided interpretations and opinions, your heart has hardened and this is evident from all the posts I have read, indicate, you quote the Bible but you do not believe the verse, you talk about Jesus but you seem to have no inclination as to what Jesus expects from you, you have absolutely no motivation to speak the truth.

1. No opinion but yours matter (Arrogant Ignoramus)
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Following links offered for Muslim read-only participants of the forum that are seeking truth. Not so much for hopelessly indoctrinated suicide murderers. http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg7992#msg7992

2. Quoting verse of verse indicates knowing of the lines but not understanding its meaning or purpose

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/#power_of_the_sword
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=731.0

3. Slander and hate speech towards someone that introduce over 2 billion people to Jesus and all the Prophets

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=336.0

4. Not discussing a topic and diverting attention from the Bible (samson story was never explored You rather discuss Islam than your Own Bible)

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg7872#msg7872
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg7884#msg7884
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg7898#msg7898
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg7899#msg7899
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg7910#msg7910
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg7911#msg7911
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg7914#msg7914
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg7927#msg7927
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg7995#msg7995

5. presenting the work of Rafat Amari is meaningless as he has not excavated Makkah so his "evidence" is circumstantial. Any self respecting archeologist would ask if you inspected the actual site. He never did but came to wild conclusions.

Attacking one messenger won't magically create a pre-4th century history or archaeology of Mecca from thin air.
Why not Google - ancient towns in Saudi Arabia - or - history and archaeology of Mecca -?
http://www.historyofmecca.com/

6. You love opinion (scribes and Pharisees) Your own, that of Pagan writers, the Greeks (pagans) Romans(pagans) and Ellis Skollfield (highly opinionated self styled Sholar that drew his own conclusions from his own analyses like many before him (some even started new cults)

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=14.0

7. You do not accept the all of the New or old testaments, YOU ARE VERY SELECTIVE OF THE VERSES YOU PREFER,

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1175.0

(heres some home work, find all the verses where Jesu says he is not God but a man and find all the verses that implies he is, there are none that actually directly say he is, and compare the two lists and then give us your conclusion.

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=40.0

8. find the passages that say a comforter

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=224.0
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=952.0

and counselor

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=9&t=KJV#6
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=Counsellor&t=KJV&sf=5

will come with 100 thousand saints and look into archeology and history as to who the bible refers to.

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1656.0

9. Prophecy of Like unto Moses (Moses was obviously not born of a virgin so else could it be?)

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=219.0

10. Read the Quran' from cover to cover like I did with the Bible and then start to engage in Islam-Christian dialogue.

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=877.msg8000#msg8000

Further going in circles will be moved to "Extensions of Chats"

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IS THIS A DISCUSSION OR I WILL DIRECT YOU TO THE UNQUALIFIED OPINION OF INDIVIUALS SEEKING FAME AND FORTUNE THROUGH RELIGION. I HATE THE OPINIONS THAT ARE BASED ON THEIR LIMITED INTELLECTS< DRAWING CONCLUSIONS THE TWO HORNED BEAST MUST BE ISLAM AND THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES, WHERE ALL THE LAWS OF THE BIBLE ARE ACTUALLY THE LAW OF THE LAND AND THE PLACES THAT ARE FREE (FREEDOM TO BREAK ANY COMMAND AT WILL) ACTUALLY WOMAN ARE ENCOURAGED TO DRESS LIKE THEY WANT< YOU CAN PRAY WHEN EVER YOU WANT AND THE 316 Laws you wont even attempt to keep the FIRST ONE, YOUR LORD GOD IS ONE, YOU DEFY THE LAW BY SAYING THAT A PROPHET IS GOD"S SON< WHAT UTTER BLASPHEMY.

[Peter]

When are you going to put a little effort into learning how the quote function operates? Are you happy with the way your posts turn out? If you don't understand something at this link just ask. http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=39.0

Also the search function works very well in this forum. Before initiating a subject please to a key word search there.

Blaspheming God's Word by copy and pasting the stupidity of others, won't magically create a 2900 year history for Mohammed's phony 7th century repackaged 6th century paganism, when you now already understand that no pre-Mohammed historical record could possibly exist.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1900.msg7951#msg7951

Even the alternate location of Mt. Sinai is still 1,000 kilometers from Mecca, and the times of Ishmael were about 900 years before the first caravan route was established along the Red Sea in Arabia.
Discuss this Paran foolishness on its own thread at the link, after reading the posts of the others that tried the same nonsense.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1483.0

Perhaps next you will be trying to present the Baca is Mecca dung load.
You are squandering your time chasing foolish nonsense, while you reject the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
The hour is late. You could die today, my friend.

AGAIN I ASK YOU NOT TELL LIES TO THIS FORUM
AGAIN YOU PERSIST WITH YOU IGNORANT APPROACH
THERe IS NO GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS!

There is no Old Testament "according to" YHWH either. He inspired and assigned His WITNESSES that are responsible for His record. Just as Yahshua did His WITNESSES. Multiple WITNESSES are essential to establishing something as being credible. The EXACT OPPOSITE of Mohammed's STAND-ALONE 7th century rambling on.

WHY WOULD YOU ACCEPT ONE LONE UNSUBSTANTIATED SCHOLARS OPINION AND NOT MULTIPLE SCHOLARS THAT CONCUR? YOUR BIASE IS TOO DEEP ROOTED TO HAVE A MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION WITH YOU>

THIS ENTIRE WEBSITE IS FILLED WITH OPINION CONJECTURE< ASSUMPTIONS AND MISGUIDANCE
THERE IS NO STORY THAT MAKES SENSE AND IF YOU DO PRESENT SAMSON A VALID BIBLICAL STORY ONE IS DISMISSED

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM< YOU NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP< YOUR EGO AND DISBELIEF (SATAN) HAS SUCH A STRONG GRIUP ON YOU THAT YOU ARE MADE DEAF DUMB AND BLIND TO THE TRUTH>

YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WASTING TIME HERE< REPENT IN THE NAME OF YOUR CREATOR AND SUSTAINER< REPENT AND RETURN TO THE COMMAND OF YOUR LORD GOD IS ONE (NO SON AND DEFINITELY NOT A GHOST OR SPIRIT THAT IS SATAN)

This blasphemy against the Word of God, even as the poor fellow follows the testimony of A SINGLE 7th century illiterate reprobate, that WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel. A "prophet" with no fulfilled prophecy, that not a single person ever heard his alter-ego "Allah"s voice give a single so-called "revelation" to.