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Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

Is this the Prince of Peace letting us down again? Notice this regards peace "on earth". Christians find peace in Jesus Christ and in the kingdom of God. We are specifically called out of this world. The kingdoms of this world were given into satan's hand at Adam's fall. The passage continues:

Luke 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Not just division among nations or something like that, but even division within households. Nowhere is this division more apparent than in a Muslim family where one member receives the truth and the love of Jesus Christ. The rest of his family remain in the spirit of antichrist, and the Christian member begins his life IN Christ. Under sharia law the punishment for "apostasy" or leaving Islam is death. A converts own family may turn him in. He looses family, friends, job, inheritance, community, basically sacrificing everything.

If you think this is only reserved for to those middle eastern countries that are still stuck in the 6th century, consider this report on a CANADIAN Muslim, turned Christian whose own mother had him tortured and ultimately ordered a hit on him:
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Here is an example of a father in Basra who stood on his daughter's neck as he started stabbing her. People shouted for her brothers whereupon they rushed to the aid of their sister. Then their father told them why he was doing what he was doing, and the two brothers helped their father kill their sister. Her transgression?

"Seventeen-year-old Rand Abdel-Qader told her best friend how she had fallen for Paul, a 22-year-old she met at a charity where she worked as a volunteer.

When her father learned she had been seen speaking to a foreigner he rushed home and butchered her, strangling and stabbing her while screaming that he was "cleansing his honour."

"Her funeral was done without any of the traditional mourning because she was deemed 'impure'. Her uncles were said to have spat on her body."

Rather than the exception, this is quite common in the Islamic world.

Yahoo: Basra honor killing.

$100 per hit.

Here is a mother in Canada that put a hit on her own son, who was thrown over a 4th floor mall railing, because he converted to Christianity.
Jesus brought DIVISION INDEED!

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Re: Luke 12:51 ...I am come to give peace on earth?...Nay; but rather division
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2009, 04:36:40 PM »
If you all knew if you all werent corrupted, this by i mean both muslim and christians.

God the only one god (allah) does not loveth fools on this earth who carries corruptions as the family has. Thei judgement be met.

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Re: Luke 12:51 ...I am come to give peace on earth?...Nay; but rather division
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2009, 07:18:52 AM »
If you all knew if you all werent corrupted, this by i mean both muslim and christians.

God the only one god (allah) does not loveth fools on this earth who carries corruptions as the family has. Thei judgement be met.

Over 5300 partial or complete manuscripts of God's Word were penned prior to 300AD, in virtually every language that was known to man, that were read all over the known world.
To suggest it was corrupted would require that scribes from Syria, Babylonia, Galatia, Asia, India, Rome, Egypt, Greece, Carthage, Tarshish and Macedonia - to name a few - all made the same mistake, at the same time, for the same doctrinal purpose.
Preposterous notion.

You see, the only reason you have to believe the bible is corrupted, is because it is inconsistent with what your STAND-ALONE 6th century false prophet taught over his 23 year record.

To believe in Mohammed, you necessarily have to reject the 1600 year revelation of God to mankind, through all of the prophets, and legions of witnesses.