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chat with sh
« on: January 24, 2009, 09:14:40 AM »
[[What do you have to say to that? You're so up your own arse it's unreal, GROW UP. You can only see what YOU think is "bad" in others, it's NOT EVEN BAD. It's purely TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. What do you have to say about my quotes?]]]

I responded to them. What I see is a poor boy searching through the new covenant we Gentiles were given through Jesus Christ, desperately trying to find something to criticize, and the best he can come up with is a discussion about who one invites into one's house. You yourself must realize what a stark contrast this is to the reprobate mind and actions of Mohammed, let alone the preposterous 23 year record of A SINGLE 6th century individual false prophet whose whimsical book is THE PERFECT OPPOSITE of the 1600 year record of revelation of God to mankind.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

[[[ That they're taken out of context? Double standards. Stop acting like you're the know-all of Islam ......]]]

A Christian only needs to know A SINGLE VERSE from the Quran to know everything a Christian needs to know:

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "WE KILLED CHRIST Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:-

That, my friend, is Islam in a nut shell. THE PERFECT OPPOSITE of ALL of the prophets, disciples and apostles of the New Testament and new covenant we are given through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

Without Jesus we go to our grave with our sins.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

[[[......when you clearly have NO real knowledge about it, you misled self-righteous waste of time and space. You're actually pathetic, grow up. Trying to force your own religion......]]]

God's Word that I quote may seem like force to you, because Islam has never been able to stand up to the light of the truth of God's Word. Indeed it is a sharp sword:

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the SWORD OF THE SPIRIT, which is the word of God:

Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance [was] as the sun shineth in his strength.

That's of course why bibles are banned in Islamic countries, why Muslims that come to Jesus Christ are killed for apostasy, and why Mohammed even prevents you from making friends with the kuffar. Because Mohammed knew you would find the truth.

[[[..... upon others and defaming a religion to make yours seem better.]]]

It isn't about better or worse. It is about being IN Christ or being ANTICHRIST:

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...

Do you deny the record that God gave us? Mohammed did.
What did God make him?

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave of his Son.

You do realize that Islam is the only specifically anti-another-religion, religion on earth.

[[[[ You're SUCH a 2-faced person......]]]

If I have shown you two faces please inform me as to which two they are.

The bible warned us about Mohammed's inspiration:

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

And about the result that Mohammed would become:

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[[[..... it's unreal. Start acting your age pal. You're a fool.]]]

Not an unusual accusation for someone steeped in the spirit of antichrist. For a Christian it's a different matter:

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, THOU FOOL, shall be in danger of hell fire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc

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Re: chat with sh
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2009, 02:48:55 PM »
[[I'm in danger of Hellfire? and you call Islam barbaric for threatening with punishments of Hell?]]]

Your last note closed: "You're a fool."
I merely quoted God's Word on the subject. Again:

Mat 5:22...but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

[[[ Did you actually just call me an anti-Christ?]]]

It's not about what I call you.
It's what the Word of God calls you. Do you deny the Son of God?:

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

But God didn't limit it to labeling you an antichrist.

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave of his Son.

He also made you a liar for rejecting the record that He gave of His Son. It isn't about what I say.

[[[ Go away. You're not worth my time. & stop trying to prove to me that everything you say is true and nothing else is,]]]

As I pointed out it isn't about what I say but what is revealed through the 1600 year record of God to mankind through ALL of the prophets and legions of witnesses.

But turning away from the truth of God's Word has always been Islam's way. That's why bibles are banned in Islamic countries. That's why Muslims that come to Christ are killed. That's why Mohammed prevents you from making friends with kuffar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhgpDfkLSME

[[[ I don't try and tell you the Quran is DEFINITELY true, not because I lack faith, in my eyes it is, but because it would make me look like an arrogant prick, exactly how you come off.]]]

I am pointing out that the bible warns repeatedly about false prophets and Mohammed was THE PERFECT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament and new covenant.

[[[ You have no proof that Christianity is true,]]]

Daniel predicted the Jews control of Israel in 1948, and Jerusalem in 1967, right to the years, in two parallel prophecies that span 2500 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdi8PzPWrb8
Text version:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

[[[I have no proof, Atheists have no real proof, so don't try and tell me you're bringing me the truth. ]]]

Either the Christians and Jews that follow the revelation of God to mankind through ALL of the prophets and legions of witnesses is true, or the 23 year record of A SINGLE 6th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament is true. Each of us must decide as our eternal life depends on it.

If a single of these characterization (I left lots out) is incorrect please tell me which.

Please see the video attached.

[[[You think you know about Islam when you don't have a clue, you make stupid assumations.]]]

A Christian only needs a single verse from the Quran to know that it is THE PERFECT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ and the WHOLE SUBJECT of the New TEstament and new covenant that we Gentiles received through Him. Here is the deadliest verse in the Quran:

Surah 4:157 That THEY SAID (in boast), "WE KILLED CHRIST Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:-

Mat 26:28 For this is MY BLOOD of the new testament, which is SHED FOR MANY for the remission of sins.

Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?

There is NOTHING AMBIGUOUS in those verses.

[[[ I could do the same about Christianity by believing the few quotes I gave you which I PURPOSELY took out of context, but I'm not that ignorant or stupid (I've read the entire Bible,]]]

But it's not the same at all. God's people have been following Him from Moses through Jesus and unto today. Mohammedanism was created by A SINGLE 6th century INDIVIDUAL that was and taught, THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

[[[ I know Christianity's a religion of peace,....]]]

And what about Mohammedanism? The imperialistic pillage, plunder, murder and sexual enslavement of the First Islamic Jihad conquered nearly the whole known world until stopped in Tour France.
The 12,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11 are simply a continuation of the 1400 year Islamic conquest of the non-Islamic world. The dar el salaam conquest of the dar el harb. Nothing new at all from the time Mohammed plundered his first caravan.

[[[.... 99% of my friends are Christian, so dealing with you isn't a problem, there are complete idiots in every religion,.....[[[

The body of Christ is made up of many parts. Your friends have already shown you, through themselves, the peace they enjoy from being filled with the Holy Ghost and having a life in Jesus Christ can bring. Think of me more like the slap upside the head and shake you by the lapels to wake you up guy, who is desperate that you could die tomorrow, that doesn't want you to march down Mohammed's path to perdition if you do.

[[[...... I think you're the first Christian idiot I've encountered, good job *rolls eyes*), so I'll leave you to rot in your narrow mind. Bye]]]

One must make a choice. One way is to consider the fruit. Look at your friends. Look at Christians around the world. How many are throwing rocks at mosques or synagogues? How many Muslims are throwing rocks at synagogues? How many Christians kill other Christians for becoming apostate? The very concept of it is so preposterous. Look at terrorism in India recently. Look at Indonesia:

In Indonesia 3 teenage girls were beheaded on their way to their Christian school and one head left on the steps of a Church. The note left behind reads: "We will murder 100 more Christian teenagers and their heads will be presented as presents."

Or the Sudan:
"Once again, women are the targets. In mid-March, rebels assaulted three women gathering firewood and cut off their ears, lips, and breasts."
"Starting in 2003, Janjaweed Arabs, a Sudan-backed militia, have driven 2 million villagers from their homes in ethnic-cleansing attacks designed to suppress local rebels."

"Eyewitness accounts detailing the militia attacks are horrifying. "They killed my 3-year-old son right in front of my eyes," one father from West Darfur said. Since last fall, women have reported more than 500 rapes. Three women said five militiamen beat and raped them last August. The women said, "After they abused us, they told us that now we would have Arab babies. And, if they would find any [more] women, they would rape them again to change the color of their children.""

AP - December 06, 2006 MOGADISHU, Somalia - "Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day will be beheaded, an Islamic courts official said Wednesday, adding the edict will be implemented in three days."

Rape in Islam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V22qDQqMPL0

Marrying children:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-DA4WmfFWI

YouTube is full of imams spewing their venom of conquest of the kuffar, in mosques, even in England.

Even if you are peaceful who do you think your religion is being given over to? Who will prevail? The peaceful element or the Saudi style radicals that are financing Islam all around the world? If you lived in Dearborn Michigan you would know the answer, because once the Saudis came over and stayed in the mosque for a few weeks, the women went from about 5% wearing hijab to 95% wearing it. Even in operating room scrubs!

No my friend, you will play ball with the radicals, or get your head cut off as an apostate, and you know that in your heart of hearts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Rdej28pP4

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Re: chat with sh
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2009, 02:53:32 PM »
[[[Stop trying to force your beliefs onto me,......]]]

What force? I have simply been showing you what the Word of God says. The same Word that your Chrisitan friends believe.

[[[.... I don't believe in them.]]]

No Muslim can because Mohammed's STAND-ALONE 6th century religion is the EXACT AND PERFECT OPPOSITE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Rdej28pP4

[[[ Have a problem with it? Grow up and deal with it,]]]

I have been dealing with it by showing you the Word of God.

[[[[ I don't care. but don't start spewing all this bulls**t about my beliefs .....]]]

How is it bull? You deny the Son of God and deny the blood that would save you. Deny ALL of the prophets and apostles and witnesses of the New Testament to follow a single 6th century illiterate individual whose behavior is more than detailed in your own books.

bukhari (6:298) Narrated 'Aisha about her childhood:

The Prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in Itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses).

[[[.....because I'm fully entitled to shout at you for it. ]]]

Who would suggest you weren't? I think it's the cutting off of heads of those that disagree that offends most non-muslims:

In Indonesia 3 teenage girls were beheaded on their way to their Christian school and one head left on the steps of a Church. The note left behind reads: "We will murder 100 more Christian teenagers and their heads will be presented as presents."

What if they were your daughters?

[[[Oh, okay, so a few Muslims that go against the VERY FUNDAMENTALS of Islam do some messed up things?]]]

The ones involved in imperialistic conquest are the ones that GET ISLAM. They are following in your prophet's footsteps. They are obeying the Quran and pleasing allah the best way they know how:

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

[[[ Does that make it okay for you to judge 1.2 billion people by that minority?]]]

I am not their or your judge:

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave of his Son.

Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?

[[[ That's like me judging you by the Klu Klux Klan,.....]]]

Not at all. The Klan had no more to do with God's Word than the Catholic church murder of Muslims, Jews, AND CHRISTIANS. Here's how we can know:

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Mark 12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF. There is none other commandment greater than these.

The most violent thing Jesus did was overturn the tables of the moneychangers.
Mohammed? pillage, plunder, imperialistic conquest, sexual enslaving women as spoils of war, doing a child, taking his stepson's wife, etc. etc.

[[[[..... except your pathetic media won't show the bad sides of your own society,.....]]]

What does society have to do with Christianity?

[[[.......... only those of others, to make yourselves seem that little bit better but we can all see straight through it. I live in the UK, my Christian friends aren't like you, they appreciate my beliefs, don't try to force theirs on me and understand that I'm a GOOD, REAL Muslim and even THEY know what Islam is about. There's just a few brainwashed pricks like you that need their heads sorting out.]]]

If your friends support Mohammedanism, they don't understand the Quran or the bible. There is no shortage of people that believe themselves to be Christian.

Mohammed's Quran is in such a textual mess that a whopping 71 out of only 114 suras are subject to abrogation:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0

[[[ A couple of guessed prophecies don't make you religion correct, there are plenty like that in Islam.......]]]

I've seen some of these presumed in Islam but they can hardly be considered the same. And those aren't the only two problems assigned to us by prophecy. Here are more "coincidences":
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#revelation_1260_days

[[[[..... but do you recognise their existance? No. Why? because you're an ignorant twat that chooses to avoid anything that might be nice about something he doesn't agree with, you attempt to pick out hateful things about my religion but quite frankly I laugh at how pathetic you can be.]]]

Islam is about a 23 year record of the ramblings of A SINGLE 6th century INDIVIDUAL. That is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the 1600 year revelation of God to mankind.

[[[[ I know my religion better than you do, don't try and educate me on mine,......]]]

I simply showed you that denying Jesus as the Son of God and denying His blood will condemn you, ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORD.

1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

[[[[....... because I could waste my time getting hundreds of quotes to show you how wrong you are but you're clearly not worth my time.]]]

But you would be showing me how A SINGLE 6th century illiterate is the EXACT OPPOSITE of ALL of the prophets and legions of witnesses in the 1600 year record of God's Word. It's preposterous just on the face of it.

[[[ I showed your messages to A LOT of my Christian friends, and their parents. 2 of whom are Vicars,......]]]

If Roman Catholic, even the Pope sold out Jesus and kissed the Quran, the very book whose God curses Him for believing in the Son of God. Why not ask the vicar what he thinks of these verses:

Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "WE KILLED CHRIST Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear... FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT

Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious HAS BEGOTTEN A SON!" 89 INDEED YE HAVE PUT FORTH A THING MOST MONSTROUS!

Here's my King James bible on the subject:

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

God isn't about what we wish He is. We can only know about Him through His Word.
There are churches here in the U.S., specifically the Episcopal Church, that is the U.S. version of the "Church of England".
They ordained a homosexual as bishop. Why not ask the vicar what he thinks of that. What do you think of that my friend?
The bible prophesied a great apostasy just before Jesus return. Men are making their own God all across the spectrum.
That's why I rely on the Word of God. That's how I know Mohammed and his teachings are the PERFECT OPPOSITE.

[[[..... they told me to ignore you because you're just as bad as Muslim extremists.....]]]

Yea right. Like all Christian fundamentalists I want to behead people for disagreeing with me.
You see, Christians understand that judgment and punishment is left to God. All we can do is pity those that follow a false prophet.
Muslims seek to subjugate all the people of the world into their religion, and when they gain control of a country they ban bibles.

[[[...... and your views should be completely ignored as you don't correctly represent Christians :)]]]

You have been being condemned by the Word of God, not me.

[[[[ I'm gonna agree with them more than you,....]]]]

That's because their vacant hollow words soothe your rebellion from God to follow a single false prophet. Print out the comments and show them. Ask them if these verses exist in their bible too.

[[[[..... seeing as you know, they're Vicars,......]]]

A Vicar is a person who least understands authority in the church. He is deluded into believing that because men have said he is in a position of authority over God's heritage, that that makes him the authority. But all he has been is trained like a monkey into doctrine. Much of it contrary to the Word of God.
But Jesus Christ is still the head of the true church. Not the pope, pastor or vicar.

[[[...... and you're nothing but a mindless uneducated twat.]]]

The verses I share with you are simply that. No ambiguity in them. It's up to you to decide whether you want to continue to reject God or embrace Him.

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, EVEN DENYING THE LORD THAT BOUGHT THEM, AND BRING UPON THEMSELVES SWIFT DESTRUCTION.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

[[[[ Don't bother replying, I really don't want to waste any more of my time on an old fool like you. GO AWAY]]]

Please note the attached video. May God bless you and show you the truth of His Son our Savior Jesus Christ.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Rdej28pP4

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Re: chat with sh
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2009, 04:29:05 PM »
[[[Oh dear God, you're actually so deluded it's unreal. Please remove your head from your anus and leave me alone, I really don't have the time for someone like you.]]]

I would not have replied the last time per your request except you seemed, and even still seem to think it is about me, rather than the Word of God.

It is you and it is any vicar that are deluded. This may be why:

2Thes 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [EVEN HIM],WHOSE COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE A LIE: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dejfJNF2_s

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 04:29:50 PM »
[[[http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YI6gErxo44I&feature=rec-HM-r2

May Allah have mercy on you too ignorant one ;D]]]

God's name is not allah. You blaspheme God's name at least 540 times a day if you perform the prayers of salat.

"Allah" does not equal YHWH, because the word "allah" does not mean "I AM" in Arabic.

Exd 3:13...and they shall say to me, What [is] his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Nor is allah another word for "God" as some Mulsims try to pretend. To suggest "allah" is simply a substitute for the TERM "God", and not a NAME, then a Muslim would have to be comfortable saying: "Neptune is the pagan Greek allah of the sea."

First pillar of the Islamic faith:
There is no ilah but Allah.

Revelation 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JgdMQioMV4