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I have posted the following:

Christianity:
Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Islam:
Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

Simply because they are unbelievers.

And received the following answer:

Surah al-Anfal 8:12 only refers to the desbelievers at the Battle of Bedr.

Go to Osama bin Laden and tell him you love him.

The bastard will rip your head off and start stepping on it.

I wonder if the whole world can love their enemies.

They can't.

Love for enemies is weak and pathetic and leads to enemies killing you and winning over you.

You must kill the mischief makers and terrorists instead of loving them.

My Reply:

"Love for enemies is weak and pathetic and leads to enemies killing you and winning over you."

That is satan speaking through you my friend. Islam is carnal, about winning the kingdoms of this world. antichrist. The kingdoms of this world are satan's legal possession ever since Adam's fall. You are concerned about death in this world, as if it matters.

No, my friend, it is the eternal death that should concern you.
For Christians:

Phl 1:21 For to me to live [is] Christ, and to die [is] gain.
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The difficulty for Muslims to understand this concept comes from being a 1400 year AGGRESSOR against the non-Islamic world, and very much in full swing around the world today.

John 13:34  A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35  By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

1 John 4:7  Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

Does this preclude coming to the defense of those that are unable to help themselves?
An illustration might help.

I you looked out your front window and saw your neighbor coming out of her house, and a 250 pound man walking down the sidewalk ran up and knocked her down and started to rape her, would you consider it a matter between the woman and her attacker?

Sadaam Hussein murdered thousands of Kurds at Anfal using weapons of mass destruction (gas). He brutally attacked those who opposed him (mainly Shiites). He paid $20,000 to the survivors of anyone who blew themselves up among the Jews. Was that a matter purely between Saddam and the innocent Jewish victims? The innocent Kurds?

America was repeatedly attacked by Islam domestically and internationally, and thousands of Americans have been killed. America finally responded, and continues to do so.

Islam is on the attack around the world. It has only to do with Jihad, and nothing to do with America or Israel or Zionism.
What does Zionism have to do with 3 teenage girls being beheaded on their way to Christian school in Indonesia?
The bombings in India?
The attacks in Russia?
The 11,904 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11? http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

The dar el salam has been at war against the dar el harb for 1400 years. Though Islamic conquest was quiet for a time because the religion of Islam destroyed the productive capacity of what were formerly pretty ingenious people. Today they are no more productive, but the tremendous transfer of western wealth into the oil producing countries has allowed them to rekindle what Islam does best. Attack and conquer non-Muslims, just like it has for 1400 years.

America was turned into a secular state in 1947. Though even today America sends money to countries that are very much our enemies, in a misguided effort to help the people there. Far better would be to send goods directly. Food with labels that say "United States Food Aid" and galvanized tin for roofs with a big U.S.A. stamped on the underside, so the citizens actually see the transfer, rather than going into the pockets of reprobate governments. Consider even our secular Peace Corps.

America loved the Japanese so much that we gave them a new constitution that has allowed them to live in freedom, peace, and self-determination. We helped Germany rebuild after ending German and Islamic genocide against the Jews in WW2. We helped win the freedom and self-determination for the people of Iraq. From this point forward it will be theirs to loose. Just like the vanquished before them, we are helping rebuild there too. This is how a great power loves it's enemies on a national level. Certainly formerly much greater, before we kicked God out of our governance.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2008, 08:12:41 AM by Pete »
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Matthew, my for-fathers said about you when you were kept questioning him...

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Matthew, my for-fathers said about you when you were kept questioning him...
Said what, about who?