George Soros, the Club of Rome & the 10 horns of the Scarlet Beast

[Peter]

There was a particularly good Glenn Beck Show on Thursday March 31, in which he knitted together the people, governments and powers that are uniting to march against Israel.
http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/march/glenn-beck-show-march-31-2011-iranian-regime-preparing-for-twelfth-imam/

Zechariah 12:3  And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Zechariah 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn.

Zechariah 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Joel 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

As we see the whole world come against Israel one has to wonder if we aren't on the very verge of the return of Jesus Christ. ...

Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Since the kings receive the power, yet don't have a kingdom, it alludes to a shadow government with behind the scenes puppeteers. A shadow CFR style government, over which the kings have one mind, perhaps manifest in guys like George Soros and the Rockefellers, who receive power with the Islamic kingdom beast, for an hour. If the day-year language of prophecy is intended, an "hour" would be a couple of weeks. Since we can't see the workings of this shadow government, could today mark the end of that hour and the day of Christ's return? Of course, if you die today, it will be the equivalent.

That 10 horns - 10 kings - manifest in the "Club of Rome" and their 1973 report "Regionalized and Adaptive Model of The Global World System".  

The Club of Rome was founded in 1968 (the year after the "times of the Gentiles" were fulfilled in Jerusalem) at David Rockefeller’s estate in Bellagio, Italy. The Club divided the world up into 10, what they themselves referred to as, "kingdoms".
Is it a surprise the likes of George Soros associated?

"Diego Hidalgo– CoR executive member, co-founder (with Gorbachev) of the Club of Madrid, founder and President of the European Council on Foreign Relations in association with George Soros."

For more on this subject.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/scarlet_beast.htm#159
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_scarlet_beast.htm#club_rome

The 10 kingdoms of the world as divided up by the Club of Rome.

First map from Nicolo Nicolov, The World Conspiracy (Portland OR, Nicolov 1974) p220

listed here http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/revealed/club_of_rome.pdf



Since the above map was drawn, Mexico and Central America were merged into kingdom 1. That's what NAFTA was all about, as well as a 10 lane highway to run through the backbone of this kingdom from Mexico to Canada.
NAFTA was voted in by a strange cast of characters from both sides of the isle in Congress, with the most common thread connecting these strange bedfellows being membership in the CFR, who jammed the legislation through.

Just as the map that appeared in the website of the Club of Rome in the 1990s has been taken down, so too has their 1973 report "Regionalized and Adaptive Model of The Global World System"
But apparently at least part of it is still available in print.



This subject of the 10 kings is just another thread, in a virtually complete tapestry of fulfilled prophecy, when Revelation is viewed through the traditional continuous historic context that Christians and Jews universally hold for Old Testament prophecy, and the Reformers held for the book of Revelation as well.

With turmoil throughout Islamic countries, and Obama determined to arm Islamist terrorists, with Obama's team supporting all who are determined to come against Israel, could we be on the very verge of the return of Jesus Christ TODAY? Are you prepared to stand before our judge, Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God?

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

[annazakiya]

I sort of can't believe no one is replying to your posts like this.

I read Ellis Skolfield's writings on this about a year ago. I've been thinking alot about the '10 kingdoms', because it seems that if they were going to be established, it would still be quite a bit of time in the future, don't you think?

However, this:

Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

does not say that the kingdoms actually happen at all, does it? (As you have pretty much said Peter). And it is very likely we would not know when the 'hour' is occurring.

[Peter]

I sort of can't believe no one is replying to your posts like this.

I think the reason few folks post is because the forum challenges the doctrines they have been taught. Most of their questions already have answers in here, which are inconsistent with what they have been taught, so they are shy about posting because the evidence may be overwhelming. Most come to read. About 10 to 20 at any given time on a 24 hour basis lately, but some of those are digital spiders and bots.

I read Ellis Skolfield's writings on this about a year ago. I've been thinking alot about the '10 kingdoms', because it seems that if they were going to be established, it would still be quite a bit of time in the future, don't you think?

However, this:

Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

does not say that the kingdoms actually happen at all, does it? (As you have pretty much said Peter). And it is very likely we would not know when the 'hour' is occurring.

I agree. Also you will find that members tend not to select future dates, or abuse unfulfilled prophecy, as if it were meant for us to predict the future by. Isaac Newton expressed it thus:

"The folly of interpreters has been to foretell times and things by this prophecy [Revelation], as if God designed to make them prophets. By this rashness they have not only exposed themselves, but brought the prophecy also into contempt. The design of God was much otherwise. He gave this and the prophecies of the Old Testament, not to gratify men's curiosities by enabling them to foreknow things, but that after they were fulfilled they might be interpreted by the event, and his own providence, not the interpreters', be then manifested thereby to the world. For the event of things predicted many ages before will then be a convincing argument that the world is governed by Providence." - Sir Isaac Newton
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm

Since the 10 horned government is described as having "...received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast." It could be a shadow government. While I would guess there may be some rough sledding ahead (if I engaged in guessing about unfulfilled prophecy), what if the "one hour" referenced were the last 15 days? Then all prophecy could be fulfilled and Jesus could be due TODAY! Would there be any shortage of surprised Christians, in spite of their scriptures?

1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

Futurists can't believe Jesus could return because they expect Him to return at the end of their future 7 year tribulation. And preterists believe Jesus already returned or partial-preterists that the world has to be Christianized before He returns.

There is no shortage of murder and mayhem in John's "whole world" with another 1,000 Christians slaughtered on the Ivory Coast by the new Islamic government that Obama supports.

[annazakiya]

Is there also some doctrine about Jesus coming back and then ruling for a 'millenia' (on earth I think)? I've come across references to it during my internet travels.

[Peter]

Is there also some doctrine about Jesus coming back and then ruling for a 'millenia' (on earth I think)? I've come across references to it during my internet travels.

The best question is what on earth would it be for?

Revelation 10:7  But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Revelation 11:15  And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

A paper on the doctrine and it's history by brother Skolfeld.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=347.0

Bifids and Chiasms (for a little more background)
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1299.0

[annazakiya]

Thanks, I had wondered what they were talking about. Boy there are alot of confused people out there.


I have read about bifids and chiasms and also listened to Ellis speaking on youtube about it. Makes perfect sense. It is almost as if people don't want to know the truth, like they want these false interpretations to be true. It is so sad.

[Peter]

Thanks, I had wondered what they were talking about. Boy there are alot of confused people out there.


I have read about bifids and chiasms and also listened to Ellis speaking on youtube about it. Makes perfect sense. It is almost as if people don't want to know the truth, like they want these false interpretations to be true. It is so sad.

Don't forget you are talking about a religious belief. It is so unthinkable that a doctrine a person has held so closely and unshakably as a cherished belief, for so long, could not only be in error, but be in error virtually in it's entirety. It takes a spirit like the Jews at Berea had to be able to set a doctrine aside. In fact Jews are still the same way today. If 8 Jews are in a room they will likely have 8 different opinions about a scripture related topic, but they can discuss them and consider another person's view.

Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Yet the most provably heretical part of futurism, the "pre-trib rapture", seems the part they are most reluctant to set aside. It is taught heavily in futurist churches. Some overcome it, perhaps more from embarrassment of having to believe they are supposed to be removed from tribulation, rather than suffering tribulation for our Lord.

2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will  live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Why aren't teams of "churchgoers" standing in front of every mosque in the U.S., England and everywhere it would be easy to do, passing out tracts of the Gospel of John? Could Islam be God's judgment against Christians and Jews whose "traditions make the Word of God of none effect"?

But at least futurists know how to love Jews. It's a different story with those that hold the replacement theology that accompanies preterism.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2675.0