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The muslims say the Jews did it. The fruit-loops conspiracy idiots say our own Government pulled it off, which would be amazing, but of course impossible and its ridiculous and ludicrous. This gives our enemies, make no mistake terrorist are our enemies and want to kill us, support. Yet America lets this kind of propaganda go. I am not saying squelch free speech but more people should use their free speech to rebuke this crap-ola. Every time a muslims opens his mouth there should be 2 or 10 others rebuking them.
I took Bible basics classes over the years. We went over religions of the world in an hour and it was matter of fact. We never dwelled on their teachings, Buddhist, Hindu or Muslims, nor did we criticize them, just contrast the difference. It was superficial and this was in the 80's.
Skolfield has written about the central role of Islam as the end-time foe of God's people for almost 30 years. This will help put things in sharp focus if you haven't read it.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/contents_tfp.htm Still in Church we don't address the attacks on Christianity and the world by Islam.
The western "church" has gone increasingly ecumenical. We even witnessed the pope kissing the very book whose phony god - satan - curses Christians and Jews for believing in the Son of God.
Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
And even worse regarding the CORE SUBJECT of the Word of God:
Surah 4.157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Those are all a Christian needs to know from the Quran, though there is lots of other fun stuff like pimping out your sex slaves and Mohammed's heaven. A chicken and wine serving bordello in the sky:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=264.0 Where islamic mosque spend great deal of time teaching false doctrine about Christianity.
And some non-elect in the west are deceived. However, 3/4 of those that join Islam leave within 4 years. Likely the 1.4 that doesn't are women stuck with kids by a Muslim. Also most of the "converts" are likely prisoners.
As I have said before if you have a muslim for a Bible teacher, you have a fool for a teacher.
WE SHOULD LOOK AT ISLAM IN CHURCH AND WHAT THEY TEACH ABOUT CHRISTIANITY.
The church can't, without taking a critical look at the heresy it teaches in regard to the book of Revelation.
BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WE WILL NEED TO WITNESS TO THEM....
The Lord has given me that opportunity every day, through my YouTube channels.
... AND DEAL WITH THEM. THE US POPULATION OF MUSLIMS IS TINY. WHO KNOWS WHERE IT WILL GO?
Their mandate: Immigrate - populate:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_beast.htm#islamic_invasionThey even outpopulate the Hindus in India by 50%.
It is the ignorance of the West about this Arab pagan death cult that is our true weakness. I am not being flip when I say islam is an ARAB PAGAN DEATH CULT.
Historical record firmly supports you. That's the wonderful thing about witnessing to them. It is PURE black and white. No grey area like dealing with a "Christian" cult or something like that.
Arab - Islam is clearly written by Arabs for Arabs. The old catch 22 is its written in arabic and only if you read it in arabic do you get the true fantasticness of it all.
That's a funny thing. The reason the Quran defies translation is because it is UNINTELLIGIBLE even to them. How can you translate something that you can't understand? That is the kind of thing that they consider a miracle. Like Mohammed's illiteracy is a miracle. That would maybe make south central Los Angeles the city of miracles!
They memorize the Quran, but don't understand it.
No wonder when we consider it's textual history and abrogation:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=96.0http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0Yet most people including many muslims don't speak Arabic. - "The Arabs are descendants of Abraham’s son Ishmael. With Ishmael being the son of a slave woman (Genesis 16:1-16) and Isaac being the promised son who would inherit the promises to Abraham (Genesis 21:1-3), obviously there would be some animosity between the two sons. As a result of Ishmael mocking Isaac (Genesis 21:9), Abraham sent Hagar and Ishmael away (Genesis 21:11-21). An angel even prophesied to Hagar that Ishmael would “live in hostility toward all his brothers†(Genesis 16:11-12)." (from got questions org) No arab could be a prophet. Of course the Bible said there are no more prophets after Jesus and there are no more books.
Could you help me with where this is written?
John wrote Revelation in about 95AD, over 60 years after Jesus crucifixion. And if John's prophecy isn't a stunner, I don't know what is.
PAGAN? The quran copied (incorrectly) out of the Bible or from the apocryphal and rejected Christian "lost books" of the day. The rest is from pagan Arab rituals. In Muhammad's days there where 100's of religions all doing their thing. He was not stupid. The devil is not stupid. He figured he could consolidate all of them but incorporating some of their rituals and teachings. The face a rock (MECCA) and wash feet to pray is an example. The social and cultural things in the Quran are all Arab medieval rituals. In Christianity God gave us freedom in our worship, to only be orderly and make a joyful noise. We can pray any time and facing any direction or in any position. God does not care about clean feet but clean and open hearts.
DEATH CULT? Yes they teach kids to DIE for Allah.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/#islamic_youthThere is almost NO way for a Muslim to get to paradise even by their own religion. The 5 pillars are not enough. Mohammad predicted there would be 60 sects of muslims and ONLY ONE would get paradise. OK but Mohammad was wrong there are actually several 100 muslim sects today. Which one is right? Well here is the DEATH PART. If you commit suicide or die fighting the infidel than you are a martyr . You are going to get 72 virgins. I wounder what the female martyr get 72 studs? Any way they are celebrated has HEROES.
It is interesting. I don't know if this is universal, but the reason they are so celebrated is that it is believed that the first drop of their blood so shed provides propitiation for 70 of their nearest and dearest relatives and friends.
Isn't that amazing? They can believe this, but then can't imagine that a Good God could do the same to provide propitiation for the sins of all who believe in the blood of Jesus Christ.
THAT IS SICK. Suicide? Even muslims that are not terrorist, polls show 80% of muslims in Canada and US (you would think moderate) say terrorism can be justified in sometimes. How about NEVER.
This is perhaps an interesting manifestation of the spirit of antichrist. The thing they can't seem to grasp is the difference between TARGETING INNOCENTS, as opposed to military targets and collateral damage. Like the "palestinians" using their families as shields for their rocket attacks.
The Quran is full of how they terrorised their enemies. THE BIGGEST PART OF A CULT IS YOU MUST STAY IN IT OR DIE. ISLAM IS YOU CHECK IN BUT CAN'T CHECK OUT. How many fatwas has islam declared on individuals. WHAT KIND OF RELIGION PUTS OUT HITS? NONE ITS A CULT AND A POLITICAL AND LEGAL (SHARIAH LAW) AND TOTAL SOCIAL SYSTEM, AKA THEOCRACY.
Perhaps only Satanic cults and the Mafia work like that. The "no compulsion" verse waaaaay back in sura 2 is abrogated by over 100 verses that suggest violence against non-believers.
Allah is the GREATEST of ALL Deceivers according to Islam. Really? God lies. Mohammad was great at deceiving people also so he could massacre them. Yea for mohammad? Any way I ramble, but there is something rotten in islam.
It is another comical irony since we know that Satan is the father of deception and lies.
I have been studying the Quran now for a year, and I am SHOCKED! Why does this not get out on cable TV.
Because no station will carry it. Even Skolfield will set up to speak at a church, but by the time the event rolls around the radio breaks the advertising contract and even the pastor of the church keeps it out of the bulletin. Everyone is threatened by it.
There are 100's of channels. I saw a history channel thing on Mohammad and the Quran. It was interesting. In the 2 hour long show, they mentioned the SWORD verse about killing infidels once towards the end briefly and said its controversial. Meaning that it does not mean what it says, never ending war against the infidel till they are dead or convert or pay taxes (protection money like the mafia, so they don't murder you).
Unless Islam rejects their violent teachings, terrorism will continue.
That's the whole point. They can't reject those verses without rejecting the Quran.
Many muslims obviously ignore those part of the quran, but the thing they don't realize, is Jihad has many phases.
They are nothimg more than apostates to the guys that GET islam. They would be killed as infidels along with you and I. It obviously isn't the peacenicks that prevail but the most radical among them. Look at Nigeria going for the "perfect" Saudi sharia model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fbXvq_ZIbw&feature=channel_page When low in number it is peaceful. However in the last stages mohammad commands the all out holy war, jihad. Muslims will be killed and persecute by other muslims of course, if they resist as well. Islam calls for muslims to DIE if they leave islam.
This happens as their population reaches only about 7 to 9% of a nations total.
They left out any thing controversial. I just heard a BOOK publishing company pulled a less than flattering book on mohammad for FEAR of protest. LET THEM PROTEST. We should protest them 10 to 1.
The Youtube video does such a great job contrasting the Bible and quran.
Issues make it as clear as comparitive verses:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htmMore verses here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swKU22q73mkWe where asleep at the wheel before 9/11.
And we are asleep at the wheel again. It's as though it never happened.
We (America, the West, Free democracies) are STILL in denial. I AM NOT. I'm not saying I know all about Islam and geopolitical events, nor can I predict the future, but I am pretty well read and I AM SHOCKED. I am shocked more people are not shocked at what ISLAM is all about.
You should download and save websites and videos and such. Soon this stuff will disappear from the internet and it will be up to you to keep it alive.
Islam has figured out how to exploit the hospitality, tolerance and freedoms of the West. Sweden, Netherlands and UK are front lines. UK seems to be going down the appeasement route they did with Nazi Germany about 70 yrs ago.
UK and even more so Sweden and Netherlands are defenseless in many ways, mostly because they got rid of God, Jesus Christ. Secular European societies are prime and ripe for Islamic fanaticism to take over. Where there is no God evil fills in.
And secular Canada is their target in our hemisphere. This kid's own mother put a hit on him in Canada:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y70Z_hmOGWwEven the devil knows who God is. This is why Christianity is under attack.
Including the church. That may be why God kept John alive so late in life. So he could write about error that was already in the church.
A freightening thing to get to understand is the root of modern bible versions. If you haven't read this book you should:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=81.0Another great and important book is "Pagan Christianity" by Frank Viola.
There is no doubt that Israelites, Jews who made the covenant with God to fulfill his plans, the chosen people (not because they are better or more in number) are targets, no doubt. To destroy the Jews or Israel is to destroy God's plan. God promised to curse those who try to do this. In the end times many Jews will come to call Jesus their Lord and Savior. Many already do.
God bless you brother.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/one_more_time.htmhttp://www.beholdthebeast.com/timeless_covenant.htmHowever we can't be complacent and expect God to bless us and take care of business. We must go out and make deciples of all nations. Be the LIGHT of the world. WE NEED TO ANSWER ISLAM.
Thanks for doing the Lords work, in the name of Jesus Christ, AMEN!
Welcome to the forum and thanks so much for the encouragement brother. You have no idea how much it means to me. You can see this is a pretty lonely place since I take no prisoners in the church either.
Pretty much everyone's doctrinal ox gets gored.
I hope you don't mind that I split the topic off so it wouldn't get lost. Don't be afraid to start a new thread bro.