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Re: PM chat with np
« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2009, 08:49:18 AM »
[[[Of course. Obama is of Satan because Islam is of Satan

HE IS OF SATAN WE KNOW THAT VERY WELL ! BUT HOW CAN SATAN TO GO AGAINST ISLAM WHEN HE IS THE CREATOR OF IT ?]]]

You've got it backwards. Obama is PRO ISLAM. HE IS A MUSLIM.
He just spoke in the Egypt and fired another shot over the bow of free speech regarding Islam being regulated.
He is also to sign onto a U.N. treaty (or already did) wherein speech will be regulated on a global basis. Speech regarding Islam will, of course, be controlled by antichrist Muslims as it always is in Muslim countries. As you well know by your fear of the forum, Islam cannot stand the light of truth of God's Word.

He is also seeking reconciliation with the Muslims through the sell-out of Israel. We know, of course, that it's impossible to reconcile with people that are vowed to destruction of another people, and that's why the Arab Muslims have never held their end of a single agreement made with Israel. The whole seed of Ishmael thing.


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Re: PM chat with np
« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2009, 08:50:08 AM »
[[[The Christians do not understand my friend. The very scriptures they read warn us of their perversion of scripture.]]]

This is oxymoronic.

[[[ Why don't the "Christians" keep the Sabbath.]]]

For me, every day is a Sabbath.

[[[ Why do they keep pagan holidays such as christmas .....]]]

Certainly bringing trees into a house and such customs are pagan.
But do you really think it pagan for someone who follows Jesus Christ to observe His very birth? The most miraculous event in the history of mankind.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

[[[......and easter that are not in scripture.]]]

Since you worship Mohammed's OPPOSITE of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ it must be difficult for you to see why sons of God celebrate the ONLY source of mankind's salvation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rtYAO3UxA

[[[ They do not have the peace of YAHUshua.]]]

And you find that peace through a murdering, pillaging, plundering 7th century rapist?

[[[ Many of them are waking up! However Christianity is not even in the scriptures.]]]

Please explain. The Messiah is throughout the scriptures from the beginning. He is what the scriptures ARE ABOUT. The Word made flesh.

[[[ It is a delusion my friend, a man made delusion.]]]

Could be spoken by a Jew that hasn't yet recognized Jesus as his Messiah. As his promised Son.

[[[ This is why they call him "jesus" which means NOTHING in Hebrew, Greek or English!]]]

That's a pretty feeble "why". Jesus is the English translation of Yeshua.
But why would he pick on English? For example
* Dutch: Jezus
* French: Jésus
* German: Jesus
* Italian: Gesí¹
* Spanish: Jesíºs

[[[The Catholics invented "christianity".]]]

No Jesus "invented" Christianity. It is about His life, death and resurrection to save mankind from our sin.
Certainly no small amount of paganism was brought into the "church" by Constantine and Roman Catholicism. But I have been telling you that for a year and a half np.

But the worship of God through Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit is what the New Testament / the new covenant, is about. It was "invented" by God Himself. Prophesied in the Old Testament and fulfilled in the New Testament.

[[[[ The early believers were only called "Christians" by Greek unbelievers it was not what they called themselves!]]]

While this claim is made isn't it interesting that the author didn't offer what they did call themselves.
Can you break down term for me np?
Christ - ian. Those who follow Christ. Who are IN Christ and Christ IN us.
Mohammed - an. Those who follow Mohammed.

[[[[ The Vatican is EVIL! They worship images and seek to conquer the world with bloodshed.]]]

I have been telling you this for a year and a half. While you have been telling me that I am in error by not observing communion as practiced through the horrific heresy of the Roman and Orthodox doctrine of transubstantiation.

I have encouraged you to read "Pagan Christianity" by Frank Viola
I am reading a very good book now titled "50 years in the Roman Church" written in the 19th century by an X-Catholic priest. Some very interesting observations from within the RCC of the very evil that you mention.
It would be a good book for you to read.

[[[ You may hear some truth from Christians but hey every religion has to have a piece of truth to be believed! ]]]

Where is the truth in the Quran? Chapter 8? Spoils of War - Booty?

[[[[However what is absolute truth is ???? and his name is not on their lips. ]]]

This person fulfills this verse:
Isa 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

Do you understand? The person writing this suggests people are saved or lost by the translation of a name they use, rather than through the condition of their heart.

[[[YAHUshua warned us few would be saved listen closely:
Matthew 7
13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

He speaks of "Christians" here saying
Matthew 24
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.]]]

So where do you suppose that warning to Christians that work iniquity puts Mohammedan antichrists?

[[[[Why does he say depart from me because they work iniquity which means sin. Sin according to "New Testament" is
# 1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the Torah.]]]

But that isn't what it says. That's why you find comfort in the falsehoods of men np, rather than going directly to God's Word. There is no reference to "Torah".

1Jo 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) 1 John 3:4 | paV <3956> {EVERYONE} o <3588> {THAT} poiwn <4160> (5723) thn <3588> {PRACTISES} amartian <266> {SIN,} kai <2532> thn <3588> {ALSO} anomian <458> {LAWLESSNESS} poiei <4160> (5719) {PRACTISES;} kai <2532> h <3588> {AND} amartia <266> {SIN} estin <2076> (5748) h <3588> {IS} anomia <458> {LAWLESSNESS.}

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33 But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Mark 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. 31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Hbr 8:13 In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.

Hbr 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than [that of] Abel.

[[[So he tells them to depart because they break the Torah!]]]

False premeses result in false conclusions.
But where would that put Mohammedan antichrists that worship on Mohammed's Friday?

[[[The christians teach to break torah! I teach to keep Torah the same way YAHUshua taught to keep torah! ]]]

This is beginning to smell like a Messianic that I recently ran across who is likely an X-Roman Catholic. A guy who claimed that back when he was a Christian he used to write malicious software programs to ruin other peoples hard drives. Do you think that describes a Christian?

[[[There are others that teach this also I call them brothers.]]]

A better term for them would be Galatians.
If this is written by a regenerate, but still blinded Jew I can understand. If it is written by someone who believes that Jesus is the Messiah then he has little to no understanding about what that new covenant is.
There is no shortage of those that believe we are saved through the flesh including Roman Catholics.

Rom 10:4 For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

It's about love. Once a person loves, the law is in our hearts.

Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

And for our misguided Galatian friend writing, I wish him the best of luck, as he will need it. Particularly since his letter would seem somewhat short of an expression of love:

Jam 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rtYAO3UxA

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Re: PM chat with np
« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2009, 10:03:43 AM »
1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

1Cr 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7EdyCL54_8