Jehovah's Witness

[Peter]

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm#cults

The 19th century brought us

Mary Baker Eddy - Christian Science
Joseph Smith - LDS Mormon
Charles Taze Russell - Jehovah's Witness
William Miller - Millerites associated into SDA
Ellen White - SDA Seventh Day Adventists
John Nelson Darby - dispensationalism futurism (Dr. Harry Ironside on futurism)
Madame Blavatsky - Theosophical Society - satanist acquaintence of Westcott and Hort
Westcott and Hort - wrote corrupt 19th century minority Greek text that is the basis of the majority of modern bible versions.
United and Oneness Pentecostal Church - several individuals 19th and 20th century
Pope Pius IX - 1854 dogma of the "immaculate conception"

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Certainly not limited to the 19th century.

Ribera - 16th century - futurist doctrine creator and seed for Darby's doctrine
Alcazar - 17th century - preterist doctrine
Manuel de Lacunza - 18th century - middle man between Ribera and Darby

Here's a summary of Alcazar - Ribera - de Lacunza - Darby.

Constantine - 3rd-4th century - Roman church - For those in the bondage of the Roman church it is absolutely essential that husbands and fathers understand the 13th century dogma of auricular confession. Your family's spirutual future is at stake.

2Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him].

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm#cults

[Pete]

2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4  And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

[Kathleen]

I really don't know much about Jehovah's Witness but one time it happened that a JW argued that in John 1:1 and John 1:14, God is different from the 'Word' and the Word is 'god' not 'God'.

He emphasized the lowercase letter indicating that Jesus is not God but a god, thus he's not God in the flesh. He was only with God.

Could it be just a result of the corrupted translation? 

I don't know what other beliefs they have..but I want to learn more about JW.
However, I do know that regardless of the small/capital letters, there are many biblical evidence that Jesus is God.
Praise the Lord.

[Pete]

By the way, pete and peter are the same guy in here. One of my id's as administrator. But when I log in as Pete I don't risk being able to remove or edit someone else's posts by mistake as it is a standard log-in.


In the Koina Greek there were no upper and lower case letters. They were completely determined by the translators. That's why the interlinear is in all caps.

Best way to learn about Jehova's Witness is Yahoo their name along with the word "cult". This will provide the shortest distance to finding out specific differences from what we believe in an efficient manner. In other words the LAST things that you would likely learn from a JW.

The 19th century went particularly hard on the church:

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm#cults

Mary Baker Eddy - Christian Science
Joseph Smith - LDS Mormon
Charles Taze Russell - Jehovah's Witness
William Miller - Millerites associated into SDA
Ellen White - SDA Seventh Day Adventists
John Nelson Darby - dispensationalism futurism (Dr. Harry Ironside on futurism)
Madame Blavatsky - Theosophical Society - satanist acquaintence of Westcott and Hort
Westcott and Hort - wrote corrupt 19th century minority Greek text that is the basis of the majority of modern bible versions.
United and Oneness Pentecostal Church - several individuals 19th and 20th century

Certainly not limited to the 19th century.

Constantine - Roman Catholicism - 3rd-4th century
Ribera - futurist doctrine creator and seed for Darby's doctrine 16th century
Alcazar - preterist doctrine 17th century
Manuel de Lacunza - middle man between Ribera and Darby 18th century

[Pete]

Jhn 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

A little disappointing in the use of caps by the KJV translators. Since Jesus is saying he WAS before Abraham of hundreds of years before it is made apparent that the verse should be translated:

Jhn 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.

Sometimes the translators put in bracketed helper words that aren't so much help. I was blessed by the Textus Receptus Greek by this verse that someone had drawn my attention to and it raised some questions that caused me to go to the interlinear:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=108.0

I only use the Textus Receptus and the source is here: http://www.olivetree.com/cgi-bin/EnglishBible.htm

[Pete]

I really don't know much about Jehovah's Witness but one time it happened that a JW argued that in John 1:1 and John 1:14, God is different from the 'Word' and the Word is 'god' not 'God'.

He emphasized the lowercase letter indicating that Jesus is not God but a god, thus he's not God in the flesh. He was only with God.

Again, a silly basis to argue scripture. Also very importantly the Jehova's bible is based on the 19th century corrupt minority Greek text written by two spiritualists/satanists that are actually credited as being fathers of the New Age movement. I know that sounds pretty fantastic but check this link out. I provided previously imputed Yahoo searches so all you have to do is click on them:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/new_age_bible_versions.htm
That corrupt Greek is also the source of most modern bible versions including Rupert Murdoch's NIV.

(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) John 1:1 |  en  <1722> {IN [THE]}  arch  <746> {BEGINNING}  hn  <2258> (5713) {WAS}  o  <3588> {THE}  logoV  <3056> {WORD,}  kai  <2532> {AND}  o  <3588> {THE}  logoV  <3056> {WORD}  hn  <2258> (5713) {WAS}  proV  <4314>  ton  <3588> {WITH}  qeon  <2316> {GOD,}  kai  <2532> {AND}  qeoV  <2316> {GOD}  hn  <2258> (5713) {WAS}  o  <3588> {THE}  logoV  <3056> {WORD.}

(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) John 1:14  kai  <2532> {AND}  o  <3588> {THE}  logoV  <3056> {WORD}  sarx  <4561> {FLESH}  egeneto  <1096> (5633) {BECAME,}  kai  <2532> {AND}  eskhnwsen  <4637> (5656) {TABERNACLED}  en  <1722> {AMONG}  hmin  <2254> {US,}  kai  <2532> {(AND}  eqeasameqa  <2300> (5662)  thn  <3588> {WE DISCERNED}  doxan  <1391>  autou  <846> {HIS GLORY,}  doxan  <1391> {A GLORY}  wV  <5613> {AS}  monogenouV  <3439> {OF AN ONLY BEGOTTEN}  para  <3844> {WITH}  patroV  <3962> {A FATHER,}  plhrhV  <4134> {FULL}  caritoV  <5485> {OF GRACE}  kai  <2532> {AND}  alhqeiaV  <225> {TRUTH.}


A lot of at least Muslim confusion comes from not understanding that Jesus was fully man while He was on earth in the flesh.