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PeteWaldo

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Re: The Untold Story-Islam Documentary by Tom Holland
« on: August 21, 2015, 04:19:04 AM »


Again:
"Those who believe [in the Qur.an], and those who follow the Jewish [Scriptures], and the Christians and the Sabians, any one who believe in God and the last day, and work righteousness shall have their reward with their Lord: on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." (Sura 2:62).

Now, read a counter "revelation" in Sura Imran:

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam [Submission to God] he will be in the ranks of those who have lost all spiritual good" (Sura 3:85)
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/contradictions_in_the_koran.htm



Response: Islam is submission to the will of Allah. So verse 2:62 shows no contradiction since it clear says the Christians, Jews and Sabians .........

Were moon god worshipers. They are where Muhammad actually got the praying 5 times a day from, not from riding around on a magic flying donkey-mule one night.
http://www.petewaldo.com/sabians_islam.htm
No surprise that the Sabian/Harannian moon god worshipers:

1. prayed five times a day
2. performed ablution
3. prostrated while praying
4. fasted for 30 days, beginning with observation of the moon, during the same month as Ramadan
5. wore long white robes

Sound familiar?

........ who believe in Allah, which makes them Muslims.

A filthy blasphemous lie. Muhammad's "Allah" is the exact opposite of our great God Yahweh. Let alone that the etymology of the name "Allah" came from the name of the Arabian pagan's moon god.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_name_allah.htm


Another fail.

Indeed you did.

Whereas we see you still cannot address the obvious contradiction in your Bible

700 or 7,000 horses?
1 Chronicles 18:4 and 2 Samuel 8:4

This post is pending inclusion in that thread after you reply to the question that was asked 5 times of you.

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Re: The Untold Story-Islam Documentary by Tom Holland
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2015, 08:16:00 PM »


Not regarding the Islamic fables that were all created and put to the pen in the 8th to 10th centuries AD, regarding Islam's false claims of anything ever having gone on in Mecca prior to the 4th century when it was initially settled. To claim otherwise is demonstrably pure Islamic hogwash that Muhammad's followers are stuck labeling "tradition" since it is completely unhistorical. As further explored of your feeble efforts, in the subject of Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael that I split off at this link:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=4724.0

Response: Yet your Bible says otherwise, as your own Bible says Kedar is from Arabia (Isaiah 21:13-16), who is also the son of Ishmael (Genesis 25:13), which means Ishmael is also in Arabia. Additionally, since he also dwelt in the wilderness of Paran (Genesis 21:21), than means Mt. Paran is also in Arabia.

That means that the person mentioned in Deuteronomy 33:2 that comes from Mt. Paran with 10,000 followers and a law is Muhammad (saw) as he is the only person in history who is documented in doing so as mentioned in the Battle of the Trench.

So your own Bible confirms Muhammad is a true Prophet. Debunked as usual.

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Re: The Untold Story-Islam Documentary by Tom Holland
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2015, 08:35:37 PM »
You are just spamming repetitively now, so I am going to give you a few days off, to review the forum rules, and to review your spamming redundant already replied to posts, that were set aside in violation of those rules. And for doing everything in your power to waste as much of our time as you possibly can. Doing everything in your power to ignore me and break the forum rules to the greatest extent that you can, so that you can go away saying "Gee, see, I told you Christian forums ban Muslims!", when it is you that broke your oath to us - just like the false prophet Muhammad recommends his followers do.

If you come back in here again posting non-responsive posts, and spamming away with the same old posts and points that have been answered to previously, you will get yourself a week off. Break the forum rules when you come back again and I will give you a month off. Understand how it works?

We will begin by discussing your lie in the post at this link when you return:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=4721.msg18247#msg18247