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Do Muslims worship the Arabian pagan's moon god?
« on: November 04, 2015, 05:47:45 AM »
Since many Muslims haven't investigated the source of their rituals, many don't recognize that they are adopted, adapted and thinly veneered pagan Arabian moon, sun, star, planet and jinn-devil worship rituals. A concerned forum member PM'd me the following, expressing concern that we take every measure to be sure to get this subject right:

Member:  Hey, Pete. Long time no chat! How's it going?

Pete:  Hi brother. How's it going with you?!
The article ("loonwatch" link below) gives away its UNscholarly nature when it begins by making fun of people who recognize the simple matter of fact, that the Muslims are indeed coming, and are here, because in fact they are - as evidenced most clearly by 9-11. Let alone that Islam's goal is to conquer the world and subjugate everyone to the blasphemy of Islam and its shahada.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm#terror

It is just another article that suggests "islamophobia", while ignoring the fact that nobody on earth has more reason to be Islamophobic than Muslims themselves, who face the death penalty for leaving Islam in at least 10 Islamic nation states.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/death_penalty_apostasy.htm

It's also a matter of fact that in nearly that many Islamic nation states they face the death penalty for even unfounded accusation of speaking about Muhammad and Islam in an unapproved manner.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/blasphemy_laws.htm#global_speech_regulation

So it can't possibly fit the definition of being a "phobia", because far from being unfounded, fear of Islam is completely justified around most of the world. Of course as Christians we don't need to fear such things, but prior to 9-11, wouldn't fear of Islam have been well founded for all of the people who wound up being killed in the World Trade Center?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamophobia_or_christian_love.htm
How about for the Nigerian Christians, Iraqi Yazidis, and Christians facing Islamic persecution and murder all around the world?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm

Member:    I can't remember if you ever posted any articles on your forum which asserted that Allah was an idol picked from 360 Pagan gods,.......

Pete:  Regarding how it was picked, Rafat Amari believes Muhammad whittled it down to two idols (including a yellow rukin from Yemen) and then one (black stone).
I use the number 360, that they were whittled down from, because the Hadith does:

Narrated Abdullah: When the Prophet entered Mecca on the day of the Conquest, there were 360 idols around the Ka'ba. The Prophet started striking them with a stick he had in his hand and was saying, "Truth has come and Falsehood will neither start nor will it reappear.  (Book #59, Hadith #583)
http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=360&translator=1&search=1&book=&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all

Member:  ....... but if you did, you may want to see this aritcle:

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/08/the-allah-is-the-moon-god-nonsense-could-be-the-stupidest-anti-muslim-conspiracy-theory-yet-page-ii/

    The article quotes a scholar telling a piece of the history of this, saying that the Pagan moon god was never called Allah. His name was Sin.

Pete:  In my opinion there really isn't such a thing as an Islamic "scholar", since they would have to begin by willfully ignoring the fundamental fact, that there is not a shred of historical or archaeological evidence that suggests that Mecca ever existed before about the 4th century AD.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/

The Arabian pagan's moon god went by many names, over some centuries. Even the Arabian language was new and still evolving in Muhammad's day, as evidenced by the fact that we don't have any written example of it from prior to about the 3rd century AD.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2561.0

I will trust Dr. Rafat Amari and his 20 year full time study (10 hours a day 6 days a week) of pre-Islamic Arabia and Islam, rather than some internet parrot, that is even in such abject ignorance that he uses the term "Islamophobia".
In "Islam: in Light of History" (which you need to read if you haven't), Amari described how the etymology of the name "Allah", suggests it evolved:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_name_allah.htm#etymology_name_allah

Member:   And Islam bans worship of the moon.

But that doesn't change the fact that the entirety of their worship rituals are pulled straight from pagan (Sabian/Harannian) Arabian moon, sun, star, planet and jinn-devil worship.
http://www.petewaldo.com/hajj_umrah.htm

And the Arabian pagans didn't worship idols either. They venerated idols as representing their deities, just as the Muslims venerate the Quraish pagan's black stone idol as representing their god "Allah".
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1050.msg6177#msg6177

Member:   They're not particularly fond of the moon or Sin in Islam, either.

Pete: Which is of course because so many have come to find out that their rituals come straight from Arabian pagan Star Family worship.

Member:   It's a short article, but may be of interest to you. It's always good to have solid information on a subject.

Pete:  I couldn't agree more. Please read Dr. Amari's book so you can be well informed on the subject. His first language is Arabic and much of his study included original source material gleaned on trips to Arabia.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/

There is perhaps no subject more important toward the death of Islam, since even an atheist or agnostic can embrace and run with the absence of history of Mecca prior to the 4th century AD.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/

Member:   Have a great day. Oh, and if you respond to this, you may want to email me. I don't check this forum regularly. Email:

Pete:  May the good Lord continue to bless you brother.

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Re: Do Muslims worship the Arabian pagan's moon god?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2015, 08:31:05 AM »
Member:   They're not particularly fond of the moon or Sin in Islam, either.

If not fond of the moon, then why do they adorn their mosques with a crescent moon?
Why the crescent moon on national flags?
Why do they celebrate Ramadan during the month that begins and ends by the sighting of the crescent moon?
Any surprise that the Harannian moon god worshipers (from whom Muhammad lifted the ritual) celebrated during the same month with many of the same traditions?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/origin_of_ramadan.htm