It is not what he did with the swords it is why the swords were purchased in the first place, here you have a man of peace buying swords what was it for? That is the question was it not for putting up a fight but when he found the roman army was with the priests then jesus changed his mind about what to do with the swords?
If not tell me what was the purpose of the swords? Like I said if it was not to put of a fight was it for pealing banannas?
It doesn't matter what you use a book for, it matters what was the intent of the book. The same is true with the swords, especially since jesus commanded his men to sell everything and buy swords, that tells me that there was a purpose for the swords.
Exactly. You have to believe first.
What? If I have to believe something before I understand what I am believing then this same stupid approach can be used for converting to any relgion even the one that believe that a gay fairy comes and blesses you with his farts in your sleep, all you have to do is believe it first then you will understand it, come on what kind of mind job do you have man? God's message should be clear, if god's true intentions is to guide me to truth. If god wanted me to just have a mind job he would nto give me the ability to think.
You believe in and follow a false prophet - not God. You are a Mohammedan.
God has shown you what to believe through His Word.
It is sad when people think you are like them, you are the one who is following a false prophet whos name is paul. That is who you follow, Jesus never claimed divinity.
It's about what Jesus said, and what God's Word says. Jesus was made manifest to reveal God to us. The Word made flesh. What did Jesus say?
Interestingly enough I answered this question in a vidoe, so watch it and you will get a verbal answer to this question from me for these 2 verses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwjgskYKBcEIndeed it does. But who are the signs from? Again you are just as the Pharisees.
I am not like the wicked and adulterous jews of Jesus, because I accept him as the messiah to the jews, I don't accept him as god. But you bring up an interesting question so answer it for me please:
WHAT WAS THE SIGN OF JONAH? That would be enough to answer this question of did jesus die for my sins.
We will not be brothers until you repent of your evil ways. Of Mohammed's evil ways. Indeed Mohammed's book even prevents you from being allowed to be my friend.
I know you as my brother in humanity, if you don't even know me as a brother in humanity no wonder you would not even listen to a single word is say, you cant even accept me as a part of your human family, yep this is the power of the holy spirit that makes you forget that we are related from our parents adam and eve. This is a bunch of bogus BS, I already explained to you this was more specific than friend, when you read the arabic it is more specifically Protecting friend, and the Yusuf Ali translation is the only one that I know of that captured this in his works. Like I said in my post to your sura 5:51 there is ample proof that I can be not only friends with christians and jews but even marry them.
That's absurd bull and you know it. The sword of Islam has for 1400 years been the bloody sword of imperialistic conquest.
It is you who is talking BS and trying to push that off on me. The quran teaches that there is no compulsion in religion, that truth stands clear from error. If I were to force you to pray etc, and you do it because you are forced then this according to the teachings of islam your pray will not be accepted and I will be punished for forcing you. So what you say is crap. Look how long muslims were in Spain for instance yet when muslims left there were still christians living there, interestingly enough there was not a single muslim alive in spain after the christian conquest. So which was more tollerant of other religions? Look palestine, today there are christians, jews and muslims who live as neighbors, even in this war thorn country by the zionists, yet this place was ruled by muslims for so long, so as the quran says all you follow is conjecture, you don't know the truth and because of that you give false claims. Even iran has a jewish polulation so that is enough to proove that what you say is false, yes the muslims controlled the land but the people still practiced their religions.
I'm sure the women in your audience will be really eager to read on. Particularly when they find that their word is worth 1/2 a man and their inheritance is 1/2. And they are deficient in intelligence:
Sura al-Baqara 2:282 - "The women asked, "What is deficient in our intelligence and religion, Messenger of God?" He answered, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in your intelligence."
Where do you get your stuff? What quran did you copy this from? Surely it could not be the quran that muslims use
Sura 2:282 -
002.282 - http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! When ye deal with each other, in transactions involving future obligations in a fixed period of time, reduce them to writing Let a scribe write down faithfully as between the parties: let not the scribe refuse to write: as Allah Has taught him, so let him write. Let him who incurs the liability dictate, but let him fear His Lord Allah, and not diminish aught of what he owes. If they party liable is mentally deficient, or weak, or unable Himself to dictate, Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her. The witnesses should not refuse when they are called on (For evidence). Disdain not to reduce to writing (your contract) for a future period, whether it be small or big: it is juster in the sight of Allah, More suitable as evidence, and more convenient to prevent doubts among yourselves but if it be a transaction which ye carry out on the spot among yourselves, there is no blame on you if ye reduce it not to writing. But take witness whenever ye make a commercial contract; and let neither scribe nor witness suffer harm. If ye do (such harm), it would be wickedness in you. So fear Allah; For it is Good that teaches you. And Allah is well acquainted with all things. If ye are on a journey, and cannot find a scribe, a pledge with possession (may serve the purpose). And if one of you deposits a thing on trust with another, let the trustee (faithfully) discharge his trust, and let him Fear his Lord conceal not evidence; for whoever conceals it, - his heart is tainted with sin. And Allah knoweth all that ye do. And there is a reason why 2 women and the verse is clear as to the reason it says "
so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her. " why is that, because god in his infinite wisdom knows women are hormonal, and in a situation where you are talking about wealth distribution, if they are upset with the person who should get more they in spite may say the opposite. Even with my wife and sister sometimes when they are in their monthly courses they say things that can cause a person to fight, but then you realize that they are on their monthlies, and you leave them alone as the quran instructs. But you want to talk about the rights of women lets see what your bible has to say about this.
1 CORINTHIANS 14:34-35 -34women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. [women are not even allowed to talk in the church]
1 Corinthians 11:3 - 3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. [you complain about the muslim being told that the man is the head of the woman but here your own bible tells you the same thing]
Deuteronomy 25: 11-12 - 11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity. [if a woman saves the life of her husband and grabs the balls of the other man you are to chop off her hands, this is the love for the wife that saved her husband]
Genesis 3:16 - 16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." [Again a woman is told that man will rule over her]
Exodus 21:7 - 7 "If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do. [this one takes the cake, a man can sell his daughter as a slave, and you have problem with islam saying that 2 women are equlivilent to 1 man in the recording of inheritance?]Particularly when the women find that the one of Islam gave Mohammed a special revelation JUST FOR MOHAMMED so ONLY HE could have as many wives as he wanted.
And another special "revelation" to allow him to take his step-son's wife for himself.
You have problem with the prophet's rights on the wives he had, did you know that after the revelation came for only 4 wives he did not re-marry after that, and he along with all the other men that had more than 4 were allowed to keep their wives but were not allowed to remarry until then ended up with less than 4? Not even he had rights to marry any other woman. Also you talk about his step son's wife, this was to get the people to understand that an adpoted child is not the same as your own children. Since we live by his example him doing this clarified this to us so we would not have any questions about this for the future.
According to the quran:
004.048
YUSUFALI: Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed. The only sin that god will NEVER forgive is ascribing partners to him, yet chistians have set up 3 partners with god and ask that we do the same. Before it is too late and you spend an eternity in hell change your ways and come to the truth. The day of judgement alone will be a day that is as 50,000 years can you even think to stand in hell for eternity. STOP ascribing partners with god it would be better for you.
The quran is a complete message that came to us via the prophet muhammad (saw) it has all truths in it from how to deal with myself to how to deal with enemies and everything between. The last and final message from god to mankind should be this complete, that it does not leave the guess work into it. Like for instance the church has the delema of homosexuality, islam doesn't, it says clearly it is wrong. You would expect the book of truth to be that plain.
As the quran requires me to tell you
004.171
YUSUFALI: O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.And that is what I say to you about this topic of god having a son.
