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Ian Liddle

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Revelation 13:5 fulfilled
« on: December 16, 2017, 05:04:18 AM »
Taking the seventh head on the 'beast from the sea' to be the Islamic Empire that was founded in the seventh century, accepting that this was the head that looked as if it had been mortally wounded and its deadly wound was healed, and noting that the beast himself is the eighth - and the very image of the seventh head, then the 'beast from the sea' was "spoken into being" (or "given breath") by the 'beast from the earth' on 29th June 2014 (when the Caliphate of Islamic State was proclaimed).  On the Biblical (Jewish) calendar this was 1st Tammuz 5774.  Revelation 13:5 says that the beast was given authority to continue for 42 months.  If we count on 42 Biblical (Jewish/lunar) months then that brings us to 1st Kislev 5778 - or 19th November 2017.  So what happened on that day?  According to news websites, on that very day the Syrian army took full control of Albu Kamal, the last urban stronghold of Islamic State in Syria.  Just two days earlier (on 17th November) the Iraqi army had captured Rawah, the last major town held by Islamic State in Iraq.  Therefore, after exactly 42 Biblical months from the day that their Caliphate was officially declared, to the very day, the fighters of this resurrected Caliphate were removed from their last town - and forced to hide out in remote villages and patches of desert - thus fulfilling Revelation 13:5, that this resurrected beast would only have authority (over a geographical region) for 42 months.  How accurate is that!

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Re: Revelation 13:5 fulfilled
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2017, 09:43:23 AM »
Taking the seventh head on the 'beast from the sea' to be the Islamic Empire that was founded in the seventh century, accepting that this was the head that looked as if it had been mortally wounded and its deadly wound was healed, and noting that the beast himself is the eighth - and the very image of the seventh head, then the 'beast from the sea' was "spoken into being" (or "given breath") by the 'beast from the earth' on 29th June 2014 (when the Caliphate of Islamic State was proclaimed).  On the Biblical (Jewish) calendar this was 1st Tammuz 5774.  Revelation 13:5 says that the beast was given authority to continue for 42 months.  If we count on 42 Biblical (Jewish/lunar) months then that brings us to 1st Kislev 5778 - or 19th November 2017.  So what happened on that day?  According to news websites, on that very day the Syrian army took full control of Albu Kamal, the last urban stronghold of Islamic State in Syria.  Just two days earlier (on 17th November) the Iraqi army had captured Rawah, the last major town held by Islamic State in Iraq.  Therefore, after exactly 42 Biblical months from the day that their Caliphate was officially declared, to the very day, the fighters of this resurrected Caliphate were removed from their last town - and forced to hide out in remote villages and patches of desert - thus fulfilling Revelation 13:5, that this resurrected beast would only have authority (over a geographical region) for 42 months.  How accurate is that!

Hi Ian. It may be an accurate math problem, but the event doesn't seem significant, since one quarter of mankind in the world today is still under the antichrist spell of THE false prophet Muhammad's Islamic kingdom beast. Orthodox Muslims still understand it is Islam's job to conquer the world and ultimately subjugate all of mankind to denying the crucifixion of Christ and denying that Jesus is the Son of God in blasphemy. Nor does it appear that The Islamic State either surrendered or was brought to an end. It is alive and well, as terror attacks will continue to attest. Remember....
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
How do you make war with an enemy that dresses as a civilian and hides like a coward among innocent non-combatants while firing more rockets into Israel, or blowing himself up? Particularly since there are so many more online, that will continue to incite others to do Satan's bidding.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#each_day

No my friend, I believe the beast will continue until the return of Christ, as I believe is prophesied.
Try this regarding the succession of the 8 heads/beasts as.....
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/johns_eight_beasts.htm

.....with the 7th head as the First Islamic Jihad, that was wounded to death in the Battle of Tours France (which is confirmed by Daniel's 1335 "days"), rendering Islam comparatively impotent for many centuries.....
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#daniel_1335_days

......with the deadly wound healed by the transfer of western wealth through oil purchase, which financed the Second Islamic Jihad, in the image of the First Islamic Jihad. Muslims worshiping the beast, since jihad is considered to be the pinnacle of Islamic worship.

Regarding Rev 13:5, it was 42 prophetic months (of days as years), from the founding of the Islamic abomination the "Dome of the Rock", until the Jews regained control of Jerusalem, bringing to a close the "times of the Gentiles" in Jerusalem.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#revelation_42_months

This is cross-confirmed by John's 1260 days, from the Dome of the Rock, until the Jews regained control of Israel.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#revelation_1260_days

I would encourage you to review the prophetic math problems summarized on this page.....
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

Followed by reading The False Prophet, by Ellis Skolfield where you will find still more:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_false_prophet.htm

Ian Liddle

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Re: Revelation 13:5 fulfilled
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 09:33:45 AM »
Hi Pete

Many thanks for your reply - and I accept what you say.  Regarding the seventh head on the beast, this was the historic Islamic Empire (or Caliphate), and the 42 months in Revelation 11:2 do indeed refer to the 1279 years from 688 A.D. to 1967.  I have no problem with that, I have believed that for several years, and I still do.

The problem is that the 'beast from the sea' itself is the eighth anti-God entity (see Revelation 17:11), the resurrected Caliphate, the "image" or replication of the seventh head that appeared "as if it had been mortally wounded and his deadly wound was healed".  Thus the 'beast from the sea' itself is the End-Times Caliphate that was spoken into being ("given breath") by the 'beast from the earth' (Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi) on 29th June 2014 - and there is absolutely no way that this eighth entity is going to continue for 1279 years!

Revelation 13:5 appears to me to refer to the 'beast from the sea' itself, the eighth entity, and not to one of its heads.  Like you, I had originally thought that the 42 months in Revelation 13:5 were simply a reference to the 42 months in Revelation 11:2, representing the time period of 1279 years that the "seventh head" was given authority to establish Gentile control over the holy city of Jerusalem.  However, on further reflection, the context of Revelation 13:5 (look back at verse 4) suggests that this verse appears to refer to the 'beast from the sea' itself, the eighth entity, and thus it refers to the resurrected Caliphate rather than to the original one.

Of course, Biblical prophecy is often multi-layered, and sometimes it has more than just one fulfillment.  If you wish, therefore, we could say that Revelation 13:5 points both to the time-period of 1279 years that commenced when the "seventh head" was given authority and also to a time-period that is relevant to the End-Times Caliphate (the eighth entity).  In respect of the End-Times Caliphate, the "42 months" cannot refer to 1279 years (far too long) and so this must have a different interpretation.  Applying the "days for years" principle in respect of the "seventh head" time-period, but applying literal Biblical months in respect of the End-Times Caliphate, allows us to distinguish between the two.

The "days for years" principle is clearly a correct one, because the calculations involving this principle are too accurate to be just a coincidence.  Likewise, I would contend that interpreting the "42 months" as literal Biblical months in respect of the End-Times Caliphate is also too precise to be just a coincidence.

Please note that I am only saying that authority was given to the End-Times Caliphate over a geographical area for 42 Biblical months (from 29th June 2014 to 19th November 2017).  I am not saying that the 'beast from the earth' has met his end, because he has not.  I am also not saying that all the followers or members of the 'beast from the sea' have died or gone away, because they have not.  I am only saying that a 42-month allotted time-span for the 'beast from the sea' to control territory has expired - but the 'beast from the earth' and his followers will continue to do their worst until the very end.  In particular, the "ten kings" who "receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast" still have their job to do in respect of the burning of 'Mystery Babylon'.

The reason that I posted my comments on the fulfillment of Revelation 13:5 is because I think that the fulfillment of this verse shows us how near to the very end of the age we are getting.  I mean, what else is left to happen?  With Revelation 13:5 fulfilled, we then move on to Revelation 14 - which gives us a sequence of events.  Verse 6 tells us of the angel with the everlasting gospel.  This angel has been giving dreams and visions to many people across the world already, and many Muslims in particular have come to faith in Jesus through dreams, visions and other supernatural occurrences - especially in countries like Iran - and there are millions of them (praise God!).  Verse 8 tells us that "Babylon is fallen", after which we are warned that those who persist in worshipping the 'beast from the earth' (Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi) and his "image" (the Caliphate that he spoke into being as a replication of the original Islamic Empire, even though it no longer "has authority") shall indeed "drink of the wine of the wrath of God".  Then, in verses 14 to 16, we can read that the faithful church is 'raptured'.  All of this suggests to me that the only "big" event now remaining before the 'rapture' is the fall of 'Mystery Babylon' - and, once this occurs, Jesus will be getting in to the heavenly elevator to come down on the clouds for us.  So, time is short!  And I think I will stop there.