Jesus was clear in what he said, where he said to us:
Mat7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. So from this One good fruit is enough to say that this is nto a corrupt tree. Ofcourse this goes with the most important of important laws are to remain unaltered, which is that GOD IS ONE!!!
The bible prohibits drunkenness too.
Could you please provide the place where this is forbidden in the bible? I would apreciate the verse.
Imperialistic bloody conquest of the First Jihad.
12,000 deadly terror attacks just since 9-11.
There is ample proof that the attacks of 9-11 was an inside job, and this is not from muslim sources but non muslim sources, a good place to start is the movie called loose change, so I question any of these attacks attributed to muslims because of the fact that there is enough proof to show that 9-11 was an inside job. As for the other claims you have about killing women and children, as I stated before, and I am tired of having the same conversation in multiple posts, the prophet NEVER condoned killing of women and children knowingly.
What does the bible say about Islamic salat?
I do hope that you paid attention to the context of the verse, it was talking about loud prayers, muslims don�t repeat those zikhir loudly it is to be said in a whisper, but even still hhere is the hyprocacy if what you are saying is truth, then this is where you should renounce christianity right now. Open up Matthew 26:36-50 and read the entire thing and pay special attention to the verses here as you read them especially to 26:44 - 44So he left them and went away once more and prayed the third time, saying the same thing.
So here Jesus himself is repeating himself and according to you he condemed such actions when worshiping god, so tell me how can you even think about continuing to believe that jesus knows what he is talking about according to your bible? Unless you misunderstand which I think you did, when I ask god to forgive me that is what I am asking god for, im not saying it out of ritual and those that say it out of ritual do so because they lack knowledge. And yes we are commanded to remember god atleast 5 times a day because you can die any time of the day and if you remember god he will remember you.
Fasting is not for the sake of God. All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags to Him
Islamic fasting. Get up before daylight, and pig out. Drink water all day, after the sun sets, pig out.
Those that pig out don't know the purpose behind their fast, the quran tells us we fast to gain nearness to god and to teach ourselves self restraint:, so because people forget the purpose of why they do things and pig out does not mean this is what it was intended for. Me personally I don�t eat any more than I do during the regular months infact I eat less, because I understand the purpose is not to starve myself but for the rememberance of god and to understand what my brothers who are less fortunate has to go through. So again this is just hog wash from you because it has no validity in islam, the prophet (Saw) use to start and end his fast on a few dates and water or milk. It was not a feast.
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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, that ye may (learn) self-restraint,-
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YUSUFALI: Ramadhan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur'an, as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and judgment (Between right and wrong). So every one of you who is present (at his home) during that month should spend it in fasting, but if any one is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed period (Should be made up) by days later. Allah intends every facility for you; He does not want to put to difficulties. (He wants you) to complete the prescribed period, and to glorify Him in that He has guided you; and perchance ye shall be grateful. In Islam a woman's word is half a man's so blow this nonsense elsewhere.
That is because you have no understanding, in islam it is a man's responsibility to take care of his wife, what ever a man works for the woman is entitled to 100% of it, what ever a woman works for the man is entitled to 0% of it. In islam we know that there is a difference between a man and woman, and as such treat them each differently. When a woman has her periods she is excused from praying, there is absolutley no excuse for a man to not pray in any normal circumstance. In this case the woman has more of an advantage than the man, but in all it is balanced. Your problem is that you don�t recognize that your woman is not the same as you. And because of that you don�t realize that she should be treated differently than you. God in his infinite wisdom made us muslim men know this.
What I am doing here is showing the injustice of Mohammed's delusion of 1.5 billion people in the world today. Let alone all the lost that have followed the false prophet for the last 1400 years.
What you are doing is making false allegations on the prophet which I am going to do my best with the limited knowledge I have to answer them all. You know what is really interesting it is that when you compare the number of practicing muslims to practicing christians the number is even greater and you have over a billion more people than we have in islam. I wonder why is that? Could it be that muslims feel that closeness to god that we run to our prayers rather than walk?
1400 years of murderous evil unleashed against the non-Islamic world.
You have not answered the question because the question is according to jesus no bad tree can bear good fruit, I gave you a few of the good fruits and instead of talking about that, you are talking about something you want to show as a bad fruit, sir, the bible you believe in says no good tree can bear bad fruit and no bad tree can bear good fruit, so you need to show that ALL the fruits of islam is bad and ofcourse you cant, because the unity in islam is enough to show a good fruit, as an indian muslim I feel just as comfortable going to an african mosque or a cocasian mosque, or a chinese mosque where all they speak is chinese, this is a uniting of the world that comes from islam, can you as a christian go to a church where the entire thing is done in a language that is forign to you, and it would be as if you were at home in your regular church?
I never indicated that the Quran was uninspired. The source of it's inspiration is obvious to anyone in the non-Islamic world that knows anything about Islam.
Mat 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.
I asked you this before but you keep posing this over and over again, what is the sign of jonah?
Sent strong delusion that we should believe that God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son?
I will get into this once we can close off some of these discussions, because I am tired of switching topics with christians in conversation, if we don�t come to a definitive solution then what was the point of wasting almost 4 hours just reading and repling to this the posts that I did reply to. So lets discuss the 3 topics we are back and forth with until they are closed but do remind me once we have finished this topic about 2 cor 2:11 I promise you I will disucss this with you.
Here is a verse that mentions both that perhaps suggests that the Spirit of God remains in those Jews that have been sovereignly blinded by God, and the Comforter manifestation of the Spirit that is given to Christians:
So now you have the manifestation of the holy spirit as the comforter, so you have Father, Son, Holy Ghost, Comforter�. You guys are worst than hindus atleast they know what they believe. Your excuse for this is the same reasoning that hindus give for the manifestation of Durga as Kali. Or any of the other avatars that they have.
KJV Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
I havent seen this one for a while, it is great that you bring it up. I first want to make sure that the reading audience understands the language of the jews, because apparently this christian does not. If we open up the following verse we find:
Psalm 82:6 - "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'So for the jews to call someone Mighty God, or ever lasting father to them was not a problem because it is in their tradition to use such terms for themselves. According to jewish tradition Hezekiah was the person who was given these names and in his life he was addressed as Mighty God. Also from the verse you qouted from the Tanach it says "For a child has been born to us" meaning that it happened already not in the future so from 2 angles this has been disprooven to say jesus is god.
Muslims understand that Jesus is a manifestation of God. That the Virgin Mary's conception of Him was miraculous, and unlike any other prophet or apostle. Then amazingly, they deny that Jesus was begotten of God. Consider the term beget:
1. To father; sire.
2. To cause to exist or occur; produce: Violence begets more violence.
If God didn't beget Jesus, then who caused Jesus to exist?
Muslims believe that the virgin Mary became pregnant by God having sent His Spirit to Mary. It's obvious from the term, that if Mary became pregnant by God, then God begat Jesus.
But you have to deny all of the verses that use the term begotten in the bible because of the absurd verse in the Quran that forces you to deny the obvious.
We do not say god begot Jesus, Jesus to us is a creation just like Adam, you and I both agree that Adam was not god, and he was more miraclously created than jesus, jesus required a mother, Adam didn�t. And you say something that is a lie, we don�t believe god impregnated mary with the holy spirit, the quran says the holy spirit (angel) told mary that she will be pregnant and when she asked how, the spirt told her god only has to will a thing into being and it is. So don�t misrepresent our teachings to trick other people to believe we believe what you believe that mary was impregnated by the spirit of god. I deny that the term begotten in the bible can refer to god especailly when we are talking about god having children.
And don't give me that stupid Islamic "Christians believe God had fleshly carnal relations with Mary" stuff.
You understand Mary's conception of Jesus to have been of God too.
I understand that god only has to say BE and it is, so the conception of jesus to mary was only a will of god, that is a powerful god, that is what I expect of god in my minute knowledge of god that god does not have to do antyhing he just says to it be and it will be.
That is how God begat Jesus.
You and your false prophet are the only ones that lower God around here.
I follow His Word. You follow the 23 year record of the recitations of the unwitnessed "revelations" of a 7th century false prophet, that run DIRECTLY CONTRARY to the Word of God
Really it doenst sound like this is how mary will concieve when I read the bible, it says
Luke 1:35
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.That does not sound like god just willing it into being it sounds like something else. And I am not lowering god to sex, tell me when you read this statement from luke do you get any inclination that god willed jesus into being? I know you will find it hard to be honest but I am giving you the benefit of doubt.
