PeteWaldo (6 days ago)
This is an invite to all Muslims that don't share Tc's cowardice, and want to show me the truth of Mohammed's stand-alone 7th century religion.
Give me a link to any Muslim forum that doesn't ban truth. Let's talk about why it is that you follow the EXACT OPPOSITE of that revealed to God's people in the 1600 year record of His Word through ALL of the prophets and "messengers" of God.
Failing a Muslim forum that won't ban truth, please join me here:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.phpShow me.
Tc (6 days ago)
Show Me that you don't believe in what you are accusing Islam with , and prove to me that the Bible isn't as George Shaw says " The most dangerous book on earth " This is a challenge to any christian who isn't as ignorant and all talk like
PeteWaldo , so bring it on .
brotherjw (6 days ago)
"...prove to me that Bible isn't as George Shaw says..."
Should we be surprised that you support Mohammed by quoting an atheist communist?
"Show Me..." How can I when you have already displayed your fear of coming to the forum where I can answer ALL your questions thoroughly and leisurely. Where they won't be rotated away the way they have here.
Again, for those that don't share Tc's cowardice please join me in the forum, or invite me to yours:
brotherpete. com/index. php
brotherjw (6 days ago)
(PS PeteWaldo and brotherjw are both my channels. I accidentally used my second ID so please don't be confused)
far (1 day ago)
You'll find that every single muslim forum or popular muslim would ban you if you question their theology. Guess why?
I don't know.
far (1 day ago)
Let me guess... the argument against Deedat by the christians would be that the holy spirit has taught christians that Jesus is a trinity, and Jesus is "God" Is that what they want me to believe?
PeteWaldo (23 hours ago)
No far. The argument against Deedat is that he was a liar that created his own phony bible verse, and from it, a false test for antichrist.
He engaged in this fraud repeatedly.
Exposed here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIcFrom the same version he pretended to quote from:
1John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER...The reason for the bans is Muslim cowardice.
far (22 hours ago)
Pete... Deedat gives 1 john 4:1... you give me 1 john 1:1...???
What??? And then you give 1 john4:1 that Deedat spoke of? And claim it wasn't there? What!?!?
I say it is you who deny that Jesus is ha b'nei, Benei Elohim, and when you say Jesus is the god, thus denying the father being a separate entity.
Maybe you're right on the Muslim cowardices.
PeteWaldo (9 hours ago)
Deedat quoted 1John 4:1 out of the KJV. But he created his own version of 4:2.
You apparently didn't watch the video.
Copy and paste and remove the spaces after the dots:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=335.0Also, I gave you 1John 2:22-23 is because it is a test of PERSONS rather than SPIRITS.
It's 1400 years too late to try the spirits that met Mohammed in the cave. That made him writhe on the ground and foam at the mouth (according to the hadith).
Does John's First Epistle confirm Mohamed?
far (8 hours ago)
"And just as it says it is a test of SPIRITS. The spirit must be asked, not the person."
You say that spirits are not interchangeable for prophet? Can you then solve this: Mark 1:23-24 Mark 3:11-12 - every spirit that knows Jesus is christ in flesh of God, even evil ones? John 4:1 solves? the issue. It applies spirit - believe not all of them but try them. Why? What are we looking for False prophets - prophets/humans interchangeable with the term spirits. As in Codex Syriacus's John 14:26.
PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)
This is why liars love this YouTube 500 character format. Soon your foolishness will be hidden on the next page.
That's why you share the cowardice of those before you on this video and are too afraid to seek out the truth by exploring this in depth in the forum.
NEVER are the Koine Greek terms :
pneuma (spirit) and prophetes (prophet) interchangeable.
EXACTLY. Try the SPIRITS. That's why it's 1400 years too late to try the spirit of Mohammed's cave who even he said was jinn.
far (6 hours ago)
I wouldn't mind taking this to PM, especially since I have tons of emails (mostly replies to comments) to go through, and it's kept me up for a second day.
The koine greek terms might not be interchangeable, but we're not using greek understanding, we're using biblical text and hebrew methods. The spirit you try are the people doing a prophets job - the muslim that comes to you. It's 1400 years too late for muslims to accept Jesus?
far (8 hours ago)
1 John 4 confirms to every spirit that is human, and not a false prophet, the individual to bring the god to more parts of the world after Jesus, being Muhammad. No one else in history get's this status. Paul brings the anti-law, and paganism.
PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)
You and Deedat seem to want to insist that John's First Epistle confirms Mohammed. Let's take a look:
1Jo 5:12
He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.1John 4:14
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world. 15 Whosoever shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.far (6 hours ago)
And what is the son according to what the biblical authors understood? Of the majority, as hebrew (jewish) understanding. Not of greek Hercules understanding, never such a method. We accept he is the b'nei ha-elohim. Do you accept that Jesus is b'nei ha-elohim? Or bnei alaha? in aramaic? Do you? Because if you don't, then you do not confess that Jesus in the son of ho theos. And neither does ton theon dwells in you and you in ton theon.
PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)
1Jo 5:10
He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.1John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...far (6 hours ago)
They would be liars and anti-christs if they rather than called Jesus the christ, but instead called him the god. Since the god and being Christ - anointed by others, is not the same thing. And the god supreme above all, no one chose the god.
PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)
1John 2:1
And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.1 John 5:1
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.So does John's First Epistle confirm antichrist Mohammed? See how easy it is to expose? Deedat's buffoonery and yours?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_APeteWaldo (7 hours ago)
Just as easy to expose as the preposterous suggestion of the subject video above. Deedat pretends to use the Bible to show that Mohammed is the "Comforter" and then ignores EXACT AND SPECIFIC scriptural evidence that CONCLUSIVELY PROVES THAT IS A LIE:
John 14:26
But THE COMFORTER, [which is] THE HOLY GHOST, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8B27AD5932A91 6C2
far (4 hours ago)
I mentioned the Codex Syriacus (Syriac Sinaiticus) regarding john 14:26. Where there is no mention of holy in the text.
But even so, even if the holy is there. There is not ever a "which is" in any bible. But it would suggest two things. The comforter shall come, with the holy ghost, by the god. He implies that it cannot be a holy ghost, since holy ghosts are not gendered, but mostly protrayed as female, or a dove.
PeteWaldo (1 hour ago)
"The Syriac Sinaitic (syrsin), known also as Sinaitic Palimpsest, of Saint Catherine's Monastery, Mount Sinai is a late 4th century manuscript of 358 pages, containing a translation of the four canonical gospels of the New Testament into Syriac, which have been overwritten by a vita (biography) of female saints and martyrs with a date corresponding to AD 778."
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_SinaiticusCome join me if you don't share your false prophet's cowardice:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.phpfar (55 minutes ago)
As I said, Jesus came with the holy spirit. He was a spirit of truth.
PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)
1John 1:3
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.far (5 hours ago)
The blood of Jesus cannot be anything other than in hebrew context. And what would it mean it mean to the israelites or the lost sheep? It would imply according to my understanding of arabic. The life giving nutrients, life being of religion and belief (death being of sins accumulated from irreligion and anti-religion of the god), being given to us from the one who handed it out, that was Jesus Christ, bnei ha-elohim. Or? do you walk into lights like moths?
PeteWaldo (5 hours ago)
"I wouldn't mind taking this to PM..."
That's because it is another dark alley where you can hide from the truth.
I can keep our conversation between just you and I in the forum.
NOBODY has ever even been warned, let alone banned.
We can quote each other, post live links, and have an organized chat at our leisure, conveniently stored over time. Keep each other accountable.
Come join me friend. Create any user ID you want. You don't have to compromise your YouTube ID:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.phpfar (4 hours ago)
Actually you can just take video snippets of my comments, and your testimony would be enough for most sane people.
No Jesus warns us in Mark 8:15.
And that would apply to anyone who promoted paul's line.
"Reverent of the Bible but hostile to the Church of England, Blake was influenced by the ideals and ambitions of the French and American revolutions" - French revolution being atheistic... American being masonic dressed as such fancy unbiblical ideals.
PeteWaldo (1 hour ago)
God's people have followed Him for 3500 years, through 2 covenants, revealed in the 1600 year record of God to mankind, through ALL of the prophets and witnesses of His Word.
ONE MUST CHOOSE.
Either Jesus and ALL the prophets and witnesses of God's word are false, or Mohammed - who never performed a single miracle, who never had A SINGLE FULFILLED prophecy, and who not a soul ever heard Gabriel or Allah speak to, who WAS and taught THE EXACT OPPOSITE, of Jesus Christ - was false.
PeteWaldo (1 hour ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Rdej28pP4http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=564.0far (46 minutes ago)
Islam is not the opposite of Jesus's teachings? Not the greek gentiles who learned in a way that was not of Jesus's flock? You claim that those not of christ's flock are good enough evidence?
far (49 minutes ago)
The god's humans have followed him since Adam...
Why do you think it's Jesus who's coming back? Doesn't he say that he will say to those who call out his name and say "lord, lord... look at these wonderful works we've done in your name" and there are many such who proclaim in Jesus's name.
As for miracles... compared to bread and fish... the quran is the result of Abraham's prayer. And you claim a book is nothing? You want material evidence, to see God!? Such as the 'Year of the elephant'?
