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naliakbar video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpgRIGRbF8s&watch_response
naliakbar even goes as far as to defend polygamy, even in today's world.
Do you suppose he ever inquired of a woman as to what her thoughts might be on the subject?
Do you suppose he will disclose this opinion to a prospective wife?

But then in Islam a woman's "evidence" is only worth half a man's because of her "deficiency in intelligence" anyway, so it would seem perhaps it really doesn't matter what she thinks.

Sura al-Baqara 2:282 - The women asked, "What is deficient in our intelligence and religion, Messenger of God?" He answered, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in your intelligence.

Perhaps we can't expect women to be "intelligent" enough to know if they would like to share a husband with 3 other wives or not.

Women in Islam:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/#women


He even goes to suggest dishonesty on my part by quoting:
Koran: (Sura 2:223) your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.

But what does the bible say:
Bible: Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

He then proclaims that his point is supported by Surah 4:129 Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self-restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Suggesting the surah tells men to be fair and just to their wives. Now to most it clearly reads that men "are never able to be fair and just as between women" but to practice "self-restraint".

And of course that self-restraint for "disobedience" in a husband's opinion of a wife is kick her out of bed first and then beat her if she doesn't come around.

Sura (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/003-wife-beating.htm



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Re: 11 - naliakbar's stunning defense of polygamy in today's world
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 04:08:30 PM »
Pasted here from "censoring" thread.


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And in any matter that is brought to court under sharia law.
That you are blind to inequity you've already expressed through your favor of polygamy.
The claim that there must be 2 women for 1 man as witness in every case is plainly false if you open the quran 24:4 states that 4 witnesses are needed to accuse a person of fornication, it is not specific of male or female this is something that 1 male is equal to 1 female.
Yes I do favor pologamy, and it is rather simply why, the prophets of your bible were polygamist, and also from a practical stand point, according to the US censor Bureau, there is 143 Million Females to 138 Million Males that is an average of 96 men to 100 women, the question is what happens to these 4 women who don't get a husband? Islam says no they can marry a man that is already married.
http://factfinder.census.gov/jsp/saff/SAFFInfo.jsp?_pageId=tp3_gender

You've outdone yourself naliakbar. Even the title of the article speaks to your disturbed sense of reason: "More Boys than Girls, but More Women than Men"

On average men die before women. So there is a slight imbalance in the number of older females to males.
Indeed it's sad, that old women have a reduced field, if they are shopping for a new husband.

And you and your false prophet Mohammed's solution to there being more old ladies then old men? To allow men 4 wives. One doesn't need to be a rocket scientist to understand, that for each man that is assigned 4 wives, 3 young men that are of marrying age, would then have to do without.
By your own perverted logic, 3/4 of young men would then have to turn to homosexuality.

And if the dirty old lechers nailed women from 9 years old and up, like the prophet Mohammed, you can begin to see how bleak indeed, matters would be, for the unmarried male.
Then 3/4 of eligible males would not be able to find an eligible female.
Even worse, the 4 women assigned to the one man, would then have to vie for the attentions of this single, modern day, greedy, filthy pervert, reprobate pig of a so-called "husband".

But then Mohammed's Islam has never been about any regard whatsoever, of the desires of women.  

Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

There are reasons that civil societies outlawed polygamy. But, of course, always the opposite of civility, under sharia law men can take 4 wives. Or perhaps I should say, 4 women can be assigned to them by their fathers/slave masters, while at the same time these "men" can also fornicate with concubines on the side. Perfectly within Mohammed's law. http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/slavery.htm

You likely won't even be able to see how reprobate your suggestion is, because satan is guiding your eyes, deluding you into believing your lusts will be satisfied somewhere short of in hell.

Surah 24:33 ... Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, IF they would preserve their chastity. AND IF ONE FORCE THEM, then (unto them), after their compulsion, lo! ALLAH WILL BE FORGIVING, Merciful.

So beat your slave until she says she doesn't want chastity, then you can pimp her out on the streets for cash. BUT if forced, Mohammed's god will forgive the pimp anyway!

Why not ask your wife how much she would enjoy you taking another 3 wives + concubines?

Do you say it is ok for them to become lesbians?  Islam says no they can marry a man that is already married.
I suspect not a lot of old ladies become lesbians at that point in their lives.
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Re: 11 - naliakbar's stunning defense of polygamy in today's world
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2008, 08:51:10 AM »
Muslim men can take another wife without even telling their current wife.
This creates competition between women rather than friendship or sisterhood.
No family structure with the permanent threat of instability.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLgeMo0XE7k&feature
« Last Edit: June 23, 2008, 08:53:25 AM by Pete »
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