More YouTube discussion on antichrist Deedat

[Pete]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9qHIbnrws&watch_response


IS (2 weeks ago)
Sura 5 : "O muslim don't take ... friends"... the arabic word used is "walli" and it means "protector", not friend.

PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)
I see. So you got it right and the translators got it wrong.
You seem to have missed the word AND:

YUSUFALI:...take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends AND protectors...And HE amongst you THAT TURNS TO THEM (FOR FRIENDSHIP) IS OF THEM...
PICKTHAL:...Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends...
SHAKIR:...do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends...

The Quran isn't about what western liberals wish it were. That's why there is Islamic murder all around the world.

IS (2 weeks ago)
Don't play on that field, the christians killed more people than the whole planet gathered,and if you base your religious thinking on who kills more, this shows how hypocrit or ignorant you are.

How many jews did u killed? and how many did we saved from u? (in spain, and Jerusalem, center of Europe...Hitler...)

Have fun with your son of god pagan worshipping

PeteWaldo (2 weeks ago)
Then you're done trying to argue against if you make FRIENDS with kafir you are OF THEM.
You're right. We we have to base our opinion on what our books say. Here's why Muslims murder:
Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
Here's why Christians don't:
Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you...
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bod (1 week ago)
In Christian calendar Buddha died. But actually the spirit of Buddha is here and now. I dreamt that I have been reborn so many lives, and when I woke up people are still debating and trying to find that illusionary truth of the word "GOD." Life of the unlightened one is full of surffering. I am still here because I couldn't get rid of greed, anger, and ignorance. Can any God save me indiscriminately? Do I need a scientist to remove the defilements from my mind?

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
There's only one truth and it's not an illusion.
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus will release you from "greed, anger", the "defilements" in your mind and "ignorance" of truth, if you ask Him. Feel free to PM me.
visit: islamandthetruth . com for testimonies.

Regarding familiar spirits:
2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

If they're not of God they are of Satan.

Summadat (1 week ago)
And this is exactly why christianity is in the predicament it is in now. As politicians and priests sought to reconcile, they laid out their own religion- full of flaws to make it more palatable. So now churches are inventing religious rules as if they had some special authority from God to do so! Accepting homosexuality, putting women on pulpits etc.

Jesus NEVER equated himself with God, so you should ask yourself if u are following the religion of Jesus or that of your priest.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Christianity isn't in a predicament.
The Roman Church? Sure, it's in a crisis, exactly for the reason you detail. Because MEN usurp authority that belongs to Jesus Christ. Nothing new. Jesus warned the Pharisees of the same: Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

But you go on to false teach for which you will be held accountable:
Jhon 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.
Greek neuter gender. One essence.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
God and Jesus are co-existent:

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

You have chosen the 23 year verbal record of a 7th century illiterate over the 1600 year record of revelation of God to mankind through the prophets and legions of witnesses. Mohammed was, and taught, the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ. Islam is antichrist.
islamandthetruth . com

By the way sammadat. How many identities have you gone through, or do you have, on YouTube?

bod (1 week ago)
Jesus died out of his great compassion for his followers. Look around you today many people died for others too even for people not in their leagues. Anyone is son of god, the god within you.
The mind can be good or evil. Don't believe it? Ask yourself, the truth is within you.
I beg people would use YouTube to spread compassion and loving kindness, not arguments. We need peace here and now.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Indeed there were and are other sons of God. But there is only ONE BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. To deny THE Don of God is to deny the Father that sent Him:
1 John 2:22...HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER

I am using YouTube to do what I can to bring the truth of God's Word to those that the same Word indicates are going to suffer eternally as a result of a false prophet, or from simply remaining unregenerate.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
This isn't a semantic peeing contest as Ahmed Deedat apparently thought. It is about where each of us will spend our eternity.

bod (1 week ago)
Everyone feels the Essence of God, Buddha, Jesus, Allah... within us. The Mind can be good and can be evil. Believe it? Ask yourself. The truth is within us. We need to use kind words, manifest their teachings. Hide the Ego, the "I" you will find peace within us, and happiness will stay. Who wants to wander from the objection of gaining spiritual happiness in this short lifetime?

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Folks deceive themselves into believing they "feel" the "essence of God".

Deu 11:16 Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them;

Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Happiness in this world, though a wonderful thing to be blessed with, is not what matters most bodetanh.

Summadat (1 week ago)
Why is it that some bibles have decided to drop the word 'begotten' from their transcriptions? Are you then implying that God had sexual relations with his creation? Can someone be that arrogant and insolent to infer such a thing?

Why is it that Jesus never said that he is God's begotten son? He mentioned many times that he has been 'sent'< Anyone that is sent can only be a messenger. Besides, the creation of Adam is far more miraculous that the creation of Jesus- Adam had no parents.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Sadly Satan not only found his way into the institutional "church", but also into modern bible versions. Almost all are based on a corrupt 19th century minority Greek text written by two satanists.
Don't expect the same kind of attack on the Quran. It is already his.
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Summadat (1 week ago)
I am uncertain to say that this is bravery or cowardice. You are brave in that you actually said "there is one truth...". Surprisingly, you go on to insist that the bible is the truth. There is no error in the truth- the truth is pure.

I challenge you to find one error in the Qur'an. Need I find you any from the bible? Many presenters did that already.

Jesus did not care if the people loved his teachings, he brought the truth that he was taught.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
The errors in the Quran are legion, even after all of the smoothing that was attempted in it's lengthy construction.
Yahoo - errors in the Quran.
In just it's 23 year record of the recitations of an illiterate there are so many contradictions that there had to be a rule of abrogation instituted. For example the spurious verse that occurs early in the Quran of "no compulsion in religion" is abrogated by over a hundred later verses calling for violence against non-Muslims.

Summadat (1 week ago)
You point out that Islam is a violent religion- yet you ignore the Islamic wisdom that govern any such actions. Apparently you forgot that Jesus also said "I also brought the sword". Death is but an inevitable part of life, but you don't have to accept that either. Didn't Jesus describe the punishment for the wrongdoers that go to Hell? Do you think that death is worse that Hell?

There is one truth Pete, i agree with u there, but you have only presented your opinions.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Islamic "wisdom" in action:

2 million slain in the Sudan.
In Indonesia 3 teenage girls were beheaded on their way to their Christian school. "We will murder 100 more Christian teenagers and their heads will be presented as presents."

"...rebels assaulted three women gathering firewood and cut off their ears, lips, and breasts."
"...Janjaweed Arabs...have driven 2 million villagers from their homes in ethnic-cleansing attacks..."

"They killed my 3-year-old son right in front of my eyes,"

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

That's not an opinion summadat. You have chosen to follow a false prophet to perdition. THE OPPOSITE OF JESUS CHRIST AND THE GOD OF THE BIBLE. Forever is a long time.
Please take a moment to review the verses you must deny at this link:
islamandthetruth . com/jesus . htm

Summadat (1 week ago)
Yeah, you found those statements in the bible. The same way a teacher would tell u that u can't pass the chemistry class without them. How can someone claim to have knowledge of something when they have no access to the source of the knowledge?

Next, if you aspire that Jesus is such a glorious being, then why would you try to 'come unto the Father' if you have Jesus? But in ur bible he also says that he has no say over who enters paradise- nor any knowledge of the day of judgement- u said?

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Not having access to the source is why a Muslim or other unregenerate cannot understand the things of the kingdom of God.

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

Jesus has no say in whose in or out?
That's not what the bible says:

John 5:22 For THE FATHER judgeth no man, but HATH COMMITTED ALL JUDGMENT UNTO THE SON:

[Pete]

Summadat (1 week ago)
Well, there are evil people in every religion, just as there are pedophiles among priests. The crime committed by one who claims to be a member does not delegitimize the institution to which the member ascribes.

Killing innocent ones is an action of ignorance, and ascribing such and action to Islam is just as ignorant.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
That's the whole point. There aren't evil people in Christianity.

Only Christian posers can be evil. Like those pedophile priests or those popes who murdered millions of Jews, Muslims AND Christians.

But the biggest evil person in Islam is the false prophet himself. Pillaging, plundering, sexually enslaving, and imperialistic bloody conquest. And his followers after him for 1400 years - because of his book:
Sura 8:12...smite all their finger-tips off them

even today: thereligionofpeace . com

bo (1 week ago)
"When Jesus said I and the Father are One."
A Buddhist would understand this as Emptiness. That's the concept: The One in the All, and The All is the One. Jesus died for his compassion to his fellows . Think of all those are dying everyday for freedom of others. Compassion and loving kindness is our salvation.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Love is certainly the most important way that God is manifest in our lives. But then, it's one of the two most important commandments:

Mark 12:29...And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart...soul...mind, and...strength: this [is] the first commandment. 31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Love is the FRUIT of our salvation. It is NOT the source of our salvation.

Summadat (1 week ago)
Well of course, Love the Lord God, worship Him- Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Muhammad, Zakariya all taught this exact same thing! And they all made it abundantly clear that God is ONE! But you say that God is the one who died for the sins that only He can forgive.

For the non-thinker- death is the soul being taken from the body by the Angel of Death. Then do you say that God has a soul? That an angel that God created came and took His soul? Exactly where is your authority to say such things?

Summadat (1 week ago)
He died in compassion and selflessness? But your bible has him saying the ugliest of words that only an ingrate would say "Why have thou forsaken me?' No prophet would say such a thing! No slightly honorable person would say such a thing to his own parent! But u ascribe such a statement to the one u call savior?

Islam holds that Jesus would never make such a comment. We believe that he was never crucified- something that the bible itself present contradictory reports.

bo (1 week ago)
Religion should be viewed as a means not an end to everything.

Think of this way: As a teenager you sneak out of the house to cross a river to meet your lover, there is nothing around and the water is high, and you don't know how to swim. Look around, there is a small boat tucked under a tree. You use it to cross to the other side to meet your lover. Because of this you want to keep the boat for yourself forever, can't let lose of it . Your lover decides to leave you....

Summadat (1 week ago)
How do you reconcile: 'The Father is Greater than me' and 'go worship the Father' with 'The Father and I are one' and 'you are in me and I am in you and they are in us and we will all be one'?

You have no understanding of the english grammar then. A translation conveys an intended meaning. 'Before Abraham was born, I was'...what? I was what? I was present? I was using preaching? I existed? One bible translated it as 'I existed before...' Bur u say otherwise- perhaps u know more than Jesus

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
God and Jesus are coexistent are ONE. "Before Abraham was I AM". That's God's name for openers:

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

From the foundation:
Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Summadat (1 week ago)
Well you have merely presented your interpretation which is a gross deviation from the truth. If someone walks into a class and asks "Who is John?" and then I stand and say "I am"- does this implies that I am god? Or the God is John? Such an interpretation is nothing short of ignorant.

Are these statements the same: Before Abraham was, I am; and 'Before Abraham was, God'? If such was the intended meaning, why don't the translators post the intended meaning? "Before Abraham was, I am god"?

Bee (3 days ago)
My brother in the first testament Yahweh also referred to Himself as I Am. If you take the time to read John 8: 53 to 59 you will see that Jesus refers to himself as I AM that is why it was offensive to the Jews and they tried to stone Him. Your argument above is out of context. Its the kind of silly argument the likes of the late (may his soul rest in peace) Ahmad Deedat would use. All I can say is read and search for truth. If you are worried about interpretation go to the Greek or Hebrew.

Summadat (3 days ago)
Ignorance flourishes:

You say 'I am' is a name- as was used in the verse u referenced.

If someone says: 'Before Abraham was, Josh'- You would ask what is it about Josh? Would you assume that the person is referring to himself as named Josh? Or would you think that there is more to the statement?

So if 'I Am' was used as a name- apply it here: "Before Abraham was, I Am" You should now ask: I Am what? or I am who?!! But you were told it means God- and you unquestionably agreed.

PeteWaldo (3 days ago)
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have SUFFERED SINCE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.

Bee (2 days ago)
My brother why don't you read. In exodus 3:14
And God said to Moses, I AM, and I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE and HE said, you shall say this to the Israelites, I AM has sent me to you. Jesus making reference to this that is why they sort to stone HIM. Let us debate like men with rational, seeking truth and not calling each other names please. We all love THE CREATOR do we not? PS I understand your argument but it is out of context.

Bee (2 days ago)
No it was not a name that was being referred to in the scripture it was a state of being, a state of existance, an eternal existance. In John 8:53 Jesus has said he exised before Abraham. Why don't you read? PS nobody needs to tell you, you can read it. Then no one can deceive you.

Summadat (2 days ago)
Did Jesus not call himself a prophet? Did Jesus ever say "I am God"? Did Jesus ever say "Worship me"? Did Jesus ever said "I am God in human form"? Did Jesus not call himself the son of man? Did Jesus not call himself the son of david?

Why would God, after demanding that all worship and Exalting are directed to Him in your book, turn around and debase Himself to become of the lowest of creation? Did Jesus preach that God is three as one? Didn't Jesus say that God is only One? But u differ!

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
Jesus was a prophet. He prophesied the temple being torn down, every stone, just as it was, and lots more. Also have a slew of miracles by Him and the apostles, unlike your 7th century prophet, that was the OPPOSITE of them.

You prefer a stand-alone 7th century religion recited by an illiterate that is the OPPOSITE. You deny the prophets, because what they were and taught were the OPPOSITE of Mohammed.
If you don't deny the writings of the prophets, you must deny your 7th century religion.

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
God is only one.
Mark 12:29...The Lord our God is one Lord: 32...for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

The Father and Son are one. Just as Jesus said.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD.
14 And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER,) full of grace and truth.

Cephas112 (6 days ago)
is that your website? good vid.

PeteWaldo (6 days ago)
Thanks. I publish a few:
First one: beholdthebeast . com
Lots of info and 2 free online books. The False Prophet and Islam Reviewed - a good primer on Islam vs Christianity by a Nigerian X-Muslim.
Second: israelinbibleprophecy . com
The text version of most of the videos and more, geared more toward folks in the church.
Third: islamandthetruth . com
Geared to introduce the gospels to Muslims.
Fourth: brotherpete . com
Mainly houses the Ecclesia Forum.
Come join us.
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PeteWaldo (2 days ago)
OH HEY CEPHAS112! Just noticed it was you bro!

Summadat (2 days ago)
Did Jesus himself preach about the trinity in ur bible? Did he not warn about false prophets in ur book? You say that Jesus is 'God incarnate' but did Jesus tell u to say so? Didn't Jesus instruct u to worship God Alone?

Did Jesus ask his followers to define his purpose and mission? By ascribing things to Jesus that grossly contradicts what he preached is making your own definition of Jesus' purpose- even after he told you that he was sent to do, and only do what he was sent to do by God.

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
Indeed He did warn:
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

2Pe2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, EVEN DENYING THE LORD THAT BOUGHT THEM, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

1 John 2:22...HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

The false prophet Mohammed came as a wolf in wolf's clothing!

Heb10:29 OF HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

bod (1 week ago)
Often time on TV, or radio, politians were heard of correcting themselves (or subliminally accuse of others as liars)something like this:"The comments were taken out of context". Is it possible to interprete a lie within a lie?
I personally think all religion leaders should come together and write an honest bible in clear, precise, and universal language which contains all truth nothing but the truth of morality and spirituality for next generations to base on....

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
God gave us the plan in His Word. Just that most Christians don't bother to pick it up anymore and so have failed the rest of society as a result. The ecclesia never was a building. It is an assembly of the "called out". In the first century they met in houses, the way many real churches do again, today.
Indoctrinated institutional church doesn't have much patience for truth. They've too much invested in their doctrines.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
There is only one leader in my church and that is Jesus Christ.
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

[Pete]

Summadat (1 week ago)
All religious leaders should write an honest bible? That is quite an oxymoron. That is like a cup or pure tainted water! The truth is already written in the Qur'an. Like it or not it is the truth. The truth does not change whether you choose to embrace it or deny it. It is simply the truth. Many people dislike the discipline required in Islam so they dislike the religion- but they recognize that it is the truth. Emotion does not nullify the truth.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)
Why do people dislike Islam? Because it is antichrist.
What does God say about Islamic "discipline"?

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Good works are the RESULT of salvation NOT the path to it.

Summadat (6 days ago)
"29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. 31You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. 32He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David"

- Did Jesus lie about his paternity? Look what was said about him in the bible?!

Summadat (3 days ago)
Well Pete, apparently you can respond to those ambiguous things- but I showed you a verse in your bible where 'God pronounced that Jesus' father is David'. Making it absolutely clear that Jesus is not a part of God as you wrongfully stipulate.

Next- that verse 'Revelation 13:8' is talking about the anti-christ. Besides, many things are written in the bible, but where can you show that Jesus himself taught those things? Or else it is simply the perception of another man, wrong and untrue!

PeteWaldo (2 days ago)
That's silly. What you did was remove a verse from it's context and pretend that it somehow nullifies 47 verses that call Jesus the Son of God, 64 that refer to Him as the Son, and many of the 84 that refer to Jesus as the Son of Man. islamandthetruth . com/jesus . htm

Revelation 13:8 talks about a "beast". Daniel defined the term in the context of the figurative language of a dream or vision in prophecy:
Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth...

PeteWaldo (2 days ago)
Same beast figures appear in Daniel
Dan 7:4 The first [was] like a lion...
7:5...a second, like to a bear..
7:6...another, like a leopard...
7:7...a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible....

lion = babylon = Iraq
bear = medo-persia = Iran
leopard = greece = Syria/Lebanon

Revelation 13:2... the beast ...was like unto a leopard ...feet were as [the feet] of a bear...mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

More detail: watch?v=dSCCeRdTIxU

Bee (2 days ago)
Try 1 Chronicles 17. Solomon did not meet the criteria set out here. Jesus is an ancestor of David through Mary. He can be referred to as the son of David. Also read Matthew 22:42-46 and Psalm 110.

Summadat (2 days ago)
Exactly! Jesus has an ancestry! God is the Alpha- you said it yourself! How then can you say that a descendant preceeded the ancestor? You speak out of a lack of knowledge only.

PeteWaldo (2 days ago)
PS
Regarding:
Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

The suggestion of paternity would require David, who lived about 1,000 BC, to have physically fathered Jesus.

Here's your difficulty:
1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

Summadat (2 days ago)
And therein lies the difficulty for u:

You claim that God is the son of Himself- something that cannot be found spoken by neither God or Jesus! Then your bible goes on to say that God said that David is the father of Jesus. Jesus called himself son of man also.

While in your old testament, God elated himself over everything else- you suggest that God is the son of man, a prophet, the messiah, son of david, of nazareth- and NEVER can you point as to Jesus saying 'I am God'.

PeteWaldo (2 days ago)
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

It doesn't matter who says what in the bible. God Himself even calls Jesus His Son as the witnesses attest.
islamandthetruth . com/jesus . htm

Again, until you repent from Islam, as a natural man you will continue to put your effort into MISunderstanding.

PeteWaldo (2 days ago)
But you are missing a much larger issue and the entire purpose of Jesus Christ.

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "WE KILLED JESUS CHRIST Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them...FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:-

If you don't repent you will be lost to your sin.
Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD IS NO REMISSION.

Summadat (2 days ago)
You robbed the surah of its meaning. It also said that anyone who differed from it is full of doubts and follow only conjecture. I am SURE that Jesus christ was never crucified- just as I am SURE that you can not find contradiction in the Qur'an.

Not only that, the verse suggests that another man was killed instead- so by your own beliefs then, it meant that there was blood shed, just not that of Jesus.

PeteWaldo (2 days ago)
I cut out the irrelevant part as characters are limited. Everyone with a relationship with Jesus Christ has no doubts whatsoever.

Likely even most secular historians have no doubts that Jesus died on the Cross.

Witnesses wrote of it in scripture, but you choose to believe a an illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, imperialistic conquerer, that denied God's record of Jesus' crucifixion, 7 centuries later.
A false prophet whose life and teaching was the OPPOSITE of that of Jesus Christ.

Summadat (1 day ago)
The stench of ignorance in your writing. Do you pray as Jesus prayed? He prayed prostrating, and prayed to God.

Jesus said God is one. You say God is three in one- though neither God nor Jesus said so.

Jesus Used to fast regularly, do the christians do so?

Jesus never claimed divinity, but you said that he is divine.

Why do you say those things of others which you have no right to say? Don't let your arrogance and pride lead to you a worst destination

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
That's the Word of God convicting you.

I pray as I was instructed to do:
1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.

It's about RELATIONSHIP.

Here's how I do not pray:
Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Many Christians do fast, but Muslims do not.
Pigging out before the sun rises, not eating all day, and then pigging out after dark is not fasting.

And we aren't saved through acts of the flesh.

Summadat (1 day ago)
Abstinence from food is the easiest part of fasting- ask any Muslim. The hardest part is securing the speech and refraining from small sins. It is an act of spiritual cleansing and discipline. You don't know what that is yet.

Do you pray to God as Jesus told you to do? Or do you disobey him and pray to Jesus instead?
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[[[The hardest part is securing the speech and refraining from small sins.]]]

I guess that explains why so many Muslims on YouTube often use language like drunken sailors.
Christians are convicted by the Holy Ghost on a minute by minute, second by second basis, regarding speech and "small" sin.
God is everpresent in our lives. Is IN us.
Seems you have a special time where you exercise self-control, and then perhaps live like the devil the rest of the time.
watch?v=UZ_26AE0G_8

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
And those that follow THE false prophet?

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

That may be written in the figurative language of a prophetic vision, but it doesn't spell a picnic.

Who do you think THE FALSE PROPHET is? The tooth fairy?
Or one that came along 7 centuries later and denied the Son and His shed blood on the Cross?
The OPPOSITE

Summadat (1 day ago)
A false prophet that gave abundantly in charity? A false prophet that commanded his followers to worship God and God only? A false prophet that kept the family ties? A false prophet that acknowledge that Jesus is the Messiah? A false prophet that honored Moses and Abraham and all the other messengers? A false prophet that orders others to do good and obedient to their parents? Wow! Aren't these the same things Jesus taught? How insolent can you be!

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
Would Satan get folks to follow him if he said "I'm Satan, follow me."?

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

The truth is that Jesus is the Son of God and He died on the Cross.
Your 7th century prophet rejected that. Islam's the opposite of the Word of God.
Without shedding of blood there is no remission of sin, Old Testament or New.
Jesus died on the Cross to save you from the torment described. Deny that blood and you will die with your sins.

Summadat (1 day ago)
Didn't Jesus prophesied many false prophets to come? What makes you think that 'Revelations' was not one of them? Anyone that claim to be a prophet after Muhammad is a false prophet. Anyone that claims Jesus is God is telling a lie, knowingly or unknowingly. If you say that Jesus is divine, then you are preaching that something that Jesus never taught!

And I can sincerely smile, knowing that Jesus will acknowledge Muhammad upon his return to clear up the corruption of his identity.

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
How many false prophets have claimed the volume of souls that Mohammed has? Another 1/4 of mankind, 1.5 billion souls in the world today.
HOW MANY FALSE PROPHETS HAVE SET UP RELIGIONS THAT ARE THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF CHRISTIANITY?
ANTI-RELIGION, RELIGIONS?
THAT PRETEND ROOTS IN CHRISTIANITY BUT DENY THE SON OF GOD, AND DENY HIS SHED BLOOD ON THE CROSS? That deny the new covenant, the core of Gods Word, Old and New Testament.
Indeed the opposite.
How many THE false prophets are there? One.

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
That "THE" is a definite article in Revelation.

1.5 billion souls
Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
Here's the "beast" from that verse:
Dan 7:4 The first [was] like a lion...
7:5...a second, like to a bear..
7:6...another, like a leopard...
7:7...a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible....

lion = babylon = Iraq
bear = medo-persia = Iran
leopard = greece = Syria/Lebanon

Revelation 13:2... the beast ...was like unto a leopard ...feet were as [the feet] of a bear...mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

More detail: watch?v=dSCCeRdTIxU

Summadat (23 hours ago)
God said in the Qur'an that is was made to appear to them that they killed Jesus, but they did not! What part of that you do not believe? You have no problem suggesting that God would allow his own 'son' to be killed, but you have a problem believing that God would make it appear that way to the wrong-doers? Your logic has imploded long ago!

Summadat (23 hours ago)
One false prophet- so I guess you regard Joseph smith as a true prophet. The 'zealously learning' man (Paul) that use to persecute the christians ended up claiming that Jesus made him a messenger to the christians. How absurd! Is he not a false prophet? All prophets of God claim to be sent by God- Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Muhammad- they all said that God sent them. Not Paul. Paul said that Jesus sent him. Did Jesus say 'I am God'? If he did not, then your entire philosophy is your baseless

Summadat (23 hours ago)
Apparently Paul has more influence in your religion that Jesus did. Jesus never said he was God. Jesus called himself son of God- only fools take this literally, as he instructed everyone to call God their Father. That is in your bible. He also called himself son of Man, of David, of Nazareth- but this you deny because it contradicts your own inclinations, filtering the words you want and discarding those you do not wish to accept- all the while claiming that Jesus is who he never said he was