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In the Name of Allah
« on: March 14, 2010, 09:34:18 AM »
This is an important website detailing the Quran and Hadith
http://www.inthenameofallah.org/
Video versions
http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran
List of videos by subject
http://www.al-rassooli.com/AhmadsQuran3/

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Re: In the Name of Allah
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 12:11:06 PM »
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/so_who_is_allah.htm

Islam Reviewed
 10 - SO WHO IS ALLAH?

Muslims use the remotest language possible to describe Allah. They try
to make him as transcendent as possible in order to discourage people
from conducting research on him. If you ask a Muslim to define Allah, he
will just beat about the bush, ascribing attributes to him that neither
belong to him nor befit him. But Allah is not as mysterious as Islam
would like the world to believe. He has been at the Ka'aba stone all
along. Certainly, Christians have not prayed enough to displace him and
we may never do so until he meets his doom in the valley of Megiddo.

Some say that the word Allah was or is derived from the Syriac
Alaha. But the name Allah was in existence long before Islam. That is
evidenced from the name Abdullah (meaning servant of Allah) - the
name of Muhammad's father. The question is this: To whom was this
name originally revealed? Certainly none of the Biblical prophets ever
referred to it. There is absolutely no trace of that name in the Bible. It is
Arabic, not Israelite.

But in the mind of Islamic scholars, anything (negative or positive)
done to further the cause of Islam is justifiable, so they can lie and claim
that the name of Allah was revealed to Adam, Abraham or even Ishmael.
Lies can be told about those patriarchs because they have been dead a
long time and aren't around to refute any false claims. And they never
leave Abraham alone.

In pre-Islamic Arabia, that Muslims now refer to as "Al-Jahiliya,"
meaning a period of ignorance, the Arabians were grossly paganistic. In
and around Ka'aba, the Arabs worshiped 360 idols. Each clan had their
own particular idols to worship. It is provable that Allah was one of the
360 idols that Muhammad's Hashimite clan worshiped.

Muhammad's grandfather, Abdul Muttalib, was the leader of Mecca
and a custodian of Ka'aba's 360 idols. The Koran confirms that he was a
pagan. The names that Muhammad's grandfather gave his children are
further proof that Muhammad was from a family of idol devotees.
Muhammad's father was named Abdullah, meaning servant of Allah.
The name of Muhammad's uncle was Abdul Manaf, meaning servant of

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Manaf. His other name was Abu Talib, meaning father of Talib. This is
indisputable proof that Allah and Manaf were clannish idols worshiped
by Muhammad and his people. Islamic scholars try to hide the historic
fact that Muhammad worshiped idols before and after he claimed to be
a prophet. But they can't do away with the record of the Koran itself.

That Muhammad was later fascinated by the monotheistic creed of
Jews and Nestorian Christians is beyond question. He encountered many
of them at Mecca and on his business trips to Syria. His wife, Khadija,
was a Catholic, as was Waraqa ibn Naufal, his secret tutor.

Now, Muhammad wanted to unite the Arab race under a theocratic
setting, but there was no way he could carry along all those 360 idols, so
Muhammad decided to pick from among the idols of his clan. Naturally
he picked Allah, the idol for which his father was named. Any of the
idols would have served; an idol is an idol. It is the demon behind an
idol that deceives the mind and heart.

Those who try to single out Allah and deify him above the other
Meccan idols should remember that Muhammad could just as easily
have picked Manaf, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, or any of the others; and his choice
didn't win the support of everyone, including his uncle, Abdul Manaf.
That is clear from the fact that Abdul didn't submit to Allah and Islam
until his death. He held on to Manaf.

This elevation of one idol over the other 359 angered the other
Meccan clans. The purported persecution of Muhammad was nothing
but an inter-tribal or inter-clannish quarrel over whose idol should be or
whose should not be venerated. In the same vein, the Koran was written
in Muhammad's dialect (Quraish). To pacify the other tribes, Muhammad
told them (with concocted "revelations") that the preserved tablet in
heaven was written in Quraish. The world was then asked to swallow the
Islamic lie that all the Ka'aba idols were destroyed. It just isn't true.
About four of those idols are said to remain. The custodians of Ka'aba
should open the stone to independent inspectors should anyone dispute
this.

Just  as  Islam led 1.2 billion Muslims and even some ignorant
Christians to believe that Jesus is Isa or Esau, so it has tried to make the

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world believe that Allah is God. But there is no link between Allah and
the Bible God, who revealed His name to be Yahweh, or the "I AM."1
Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary calls the name of the true God a
"Tetragrammaton," which means that it is made up of four letters. Those
Hebrew letters are transliterated YHWH  or JHVH. They are usually
pronounced Yahweh or Jehovah. Yahweh means the "I AM." That name
defines God's eternal being and divine nature: The only true, almighty,
personal, holy God, and "the Father of spirits" (Numbers 16:22, cf. John
4:24), The God who revealed Himself to His people, made a covenant
with them, became their law giver, to Whom all honor and worship is
due.

If God's name was really Allah, why didn't He give that name to the
prophet Moses or to any of the other Old Testament prophets? Why
didn't Jesus ever hint that God might have a name different than the one
already revealed to the prophets? The Supreme Being is eternal isn't He?

If God is without beginning or end, isn't His name also eternal and
unchanging? Of course, but if the Koran is correct, then nobody knew
God's name before Muhammad, and God didn't know what He was
talking about when He told Moses that His name was "I AM that I AM."

It was at the burning bush that God revealed Himself to Moses as
the "I AM" (Exodus 3:14). "I AM" portrays His eternal existence, with no
beginning and no end. He is the only eternal God, there is no other.
There is no room for any usurper idol, no matter what he calls himself.
The name Allah does not belong to the true God, but to an Arabian idol.

But there is more. When Jesus called Himself "I AM" in John 8:58,
He said in effect that He is the same "I AM" who spoke to Moses at the
burning bush. The Jews understood exactly what Jesus meant, and tried
to stone Him for it (John 8:59). They knew that Jesus was declaring
Himself to be the final, perfect and practical revelation of true God. The
prophet Isaiah knew it, too, when he called Jesus "Emanuel," meaning
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1 The etymological root of Yahweh is actually an unused Hebrew verb, havah (the
verb to be). JHVH, the "I AM," appears in English Bibles as GOD or LORD, depending
on the translation. The Jews today do not speak or write the word havah, say "I
AM," or write the name of G-d in any form, because they consider the name of G-d
too holy to utter or write. They leave out a letter in G-d, as you see here, or address
Him as Ha Shem, which simply means "The Name."
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"God with us." This is not polytheism, God the Father and Jesus His Son
are one Being, one essence. Jesus said:

 John 10:30 "I and My Father are One."
This is the only true and eternal God. All others are idols or imagined
gods.1

I can hear some of you screaming, "Ha! That isn't so; Allah is just
another name for God. Arabs worship the same God we do, under a
different name."

That view is held by many misinformed people, but it is wrong.
Granted, Allah is the Arabic term for their god, but is Allah the name of
the sovereign and almighty God who created the universe? Aside from
Muhammad (whose prophethood the Islamic scholars have yet to prove)
there is no record anywhere on earth of God having spoken through
Arabs. In fact, the Bible says just the opposite. The last book of the Bible
was written at the end of the 1st century. One of its final statements is:
Rev 22:18 . . . If any man shall add unto these things, God shall
add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.

Isn't that what Muhammad did? Didn't he claim to be a prophet long
after God commanded that no one should add to His already revealed
Word? So what does this prove, that an entire race can be wrong in their
conception of deity? Well, the Bible says, "Let God be true, but every
man a liar," (Romans 3:4). This means that anything written that is
counter to God's Word is a lie. Since the supreme Being has told us that
His name is Yahweh, the "I AM," whoever claims His name is something
else has been influenced by the devil (John 8:44).

You would think Christians would distance themselves from anyone
who believes that God didn't know His own name, but such is not the
case. The Christians of Hausa stock worship and praise Allah. So long as
Christians bow to Allah, victory over Islam will not happen. Little wonder
that mission efforts among Muslims have had little effect. One who
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1 Another verse in the Bible perfectly describes the oneness of Jesus the Son with
God the Father, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and
the  government  shall  be  upon  his  shoulder:  and  his  name  shall  be  called
Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of
Peace."
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names the name of Christ and bows down to any false god, by whatever
name, is just asking for the enemy to brand the number 666 on his
forehead. Didn't Scripture forewarn us of this danger? Yes indeed:

And he opened his mouth (the dragon inspired  beast) in
blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his
tabernacle and them that dwell in heaven. And all that dwell
upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written
in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the
world. (Revelation 13:6, 8)

It is really blasphemy to slander the concept of the fatherhood of
God and deity of Jesus Christ His Son. Those who do so, don't really
know God. The above quote is very clear: everyone whose name is not
written in Jesus' book of life is worshiping Satan (the dragon). The list
of those in the dragon's clutches is endless. It includes Muslims,
hypocritical Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Hari Krishna, Rosicrucians,
Satanists, drug addicts, homosexuals, rapists, pornographers, those who
dabble into the occult and anyone else who turns away from Jesus, the
Son of God.

Many Christians unwittingly worship the dragon in one way or the
other. Some even sing choruses with Allah's name. If you call yourself a
Christian and continue to revere Allah, then something is desperately
wrong with your understanding of Christianity. The true God is a jealous
God who will not tolerate the worship of any but Him. The Old Testa-
ment nation of Israel was destroyed because they worshiped other gods,
and God has not changed. Maybe you are really sealed with Allah's seal
- with a "666" on your forehead, or maybe your name  is not in the
Lamb's book of life - a Christless Christian - worshiping the dragon.
(Rev. 13:8).

Some yet argue that the Allah the Christians worship is different
from the Allah of the Muslims. They say that Christians and Muslims
differ in their understanding of the character of Allah. But who has a
greater  claim to Allah than the Muslims, and how many Allah's are
there? Many who call themselves Christians are a kind of Rachel in
Christian disguise.1 In the same way, many so-called Christians who
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1 Rachel, due to her lack of a personal knowledge of the "I AM," stole her father's
idol, Gen. 31:19.
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don't have a correct understanding of the God of the Bible go a-whoring
after the Islamic god of Allah. They use every argument under heaven to
justify their spiritual bankruptcy, but to no avail. Arguments that do not
agree with God's Word, no matter how logical they may seem, will only
lead to strong delusion.

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that
perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they
might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong
delusion, that they should believe a lie. (2Thess. 2:10-11)

The translators of the Hausa Bible have aggravated the problem.
They substituted the name Allah for Yahweh, thereby bringing many
Christians under the influence of the dragon. Some are of the opinion
that before the name "Allah" was used in the Hausa Bible, scholars must
have done extensive research to support their position. But no kind of
research excuses an inaccurate Bible translation. God knew what His
name was when He inspired the Bible, and He gave nobody the authority
to change it. Truth is not discovered through human research, no matter
how scholarly, but by divine enlightenment through the exact Word of
God. Rest assured that any Bible translator who confused Allah with
Yahweh was not inspired by God to do so.

The Origin of Islam among the Hausas

How did the Hausa come about the name "Allah" in the first place?
Well, Sunni Islam came to the Hausa people in the fourteenth century
through the influence of Sudanic and Arab merchants. However, the
purity of that Islam was questioned by a Fulani speaking scholar and
religious leader, Uthman Dan Fodio, who in 1802 declared Jihad against
the traditional Hausa rulers, replacing the indigenous Hausa aristocracy
with a Fulani feudalism. 1
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1 Islamic purity was merely a pretext. The underlying aim of the Jihadists was to
foist Fulani imperial hegemony on the people of Africa south of the Sahara. The
usual tactic of Islam is to use their religion for political gain. That is clearly seen
in the overthrow of the Hausa kingship. The Sokoto caliphate, with its emirate
system entrenched in almost all parts of Northern Nigeria was able to enslave a
whole race. The Islam entrenched at the end of Uthman Dan Fodio's revolution was
no different from the Islam it supposedly purged. Neither is the present Islam as
practiced by the descendants of Uthman Dan Fodio different from the Islam of the
time of the Hausa kings. Islam is the only system where the enslaved do not aspire
 for freedom because the masters tell their victims that it is the will of Allah. This
is why there will never be democracy in the Arab world. And the West will always
look the other way. That Uthman Dan Fodio's hidden agenda was colonialism is
unquestionable - he gave out flags to lieutenants who moved into various parts of
Nigeria  for settlement. They then fueled inter-tribal feuds in those areas. The
Fulanis pretended to play the role of peace makers, or like the case of Ilorin, they
waged war with the natives to break off from the yoke of the Alafin in Oyo empire.
Subsequently, they killed off these tribal heads and seized power in the confusion.
They even attacked the Borno empire, which was not only an Islamic state but had
refined scholars like El-Kanemi as their leaders.
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Hausa men of today not only worship Allah but think, eat, drink and
talk Allah so much so that the pre-Islamic name for the supreme being
has been all but lost. Many people including some Christians are ready
to argue at length that Hausas have had no other name for God but
Allah. Some even argue that Allah is an Hausa word. They are pitifully
wrong. Before Islam was introduced to the Hausas in the 14th century,
the Hausa name for the supreme being was "Ubangiji." That is a truth
that many Hausa men can still confirm.

So why was Allah substituted for Ubangiji? No one really knows. But
it is Arabic, and Arabic is the language of Islam.1 All Muslims are taught
to revere Arabic above their native tongues and Arabic is learned and
memorized by all. Arabic is so revered by some Muslims that they even
drink a concoction called "Ruwa Alo" (made by washing verses of the
Koran written on a slate - a superstition that is believed to be medicinal).
The simple confession of Islamic faith, "Lahi la illa llah Muhammadu
rasul la llah"2 may have knocked the Hausas' pre-Islamic name for God
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1 It should be rightly termed racism. Aside from Arabic, other languages considered
holy  in  Nigeria  are  those  of  the  early  Jihadists,  their  collaborators  or  victims;
Fulfulde, Hausa, Kanuri. Anyone who wants to fit into the system must speak these
languages. Through this radical Islamic racism many tribal languages have been
obliterated, such as Holma and Zunu. These were prominent languages in
Adamawa region, but they are no longer spoken. The Fulanis who brought Islam
to them told them their languages were an abomination and paganistic, but that
the Fulfulde and Hausa languages were holy.
     To join the Kanuri/Borno political system and enjoy the privileges of the state,
quite a number of tribes are disowning their languages. By the time they  identify
with Fulani, Kanuri or Hausa, they are enmeshed in Islam. People groups like the
Galgamas, Kotokos, and others prefer to be known as Kanuris, not because they
want to be, but because they feel insecure, and unaccepted as themselves.
2 "Lahi la illa llah Muhammadu rasul la llah" literally means: No god but the
god and Muhammad is messenger of the god.
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out of their language. That confession has no room for Ubangiji. Perhaps
the name "Ubangiji" was dropped to avoid any appearance of "polythe-
ism."

The Koran has always been used as a vehicle for exporting Arab
imperialism; conquered countries becoming vassal states of the caliphate.
Arab methods may have softened some over time, but their goals remain
the same: world conquest for Islam with an Arabian flavor. Egypt is a
case in point. Egypt today is more Arabian than Egyptian. In His book,
Black Gold and Holy War, PP. 8-9, Ishak Ibrahim, an Egyptian national,
paints a rather bleak picture of how the Arabs invaded his country and
then permeated Egypt with their culture:

"These latter invaders (the Arabs) not only occupied Egypt like
the previous  powers but through their cultural imperialism
permeated every area of Egyptian life, becoming within a few
years an integral part of it. The change they wrought was
permanent. Egypt's original heritage was never to be seen again
except dimly in the lives of a small minority of Coptic Christians
who refused total submission to the Arab enslavers. The high
cost of refusal often meant their own death. Through manipula-
tion, blackmail and outright obliteration of resistance, Islam
became the religion of the majority in Egypt. Few people were
asked to pay the high taxes (Jizya) the Arabs imposed, so their
only alternative (if they wanted to live) was to accept Islam, to
become "part of the faithful." Those too poor to pay taxes, yet
unwilling to convert to Islam, were martyred."

That is the Islamic method, with the ordinary man-on-the-street
forced into a satanic - convert or die - religious web. The ordinary
Muslim desperately needs our love and prayers. He needs to be freed
from the satanic bondage to which he was unwillingly enslaved. We
must repent of wishing him ill. I know what I am talking about, because
I've been there. I used to be a Muslim.

Many Christians in Nigeria, especially those in the north, are not
interested in reaching Muslims. Clergy and laity alike are of the opinion
that Muslims should die and go to Hell for killing Christians and burning
their churches. I believe such Christians are more wicked than the
Muslims they condemn.

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Truly speaking, Muslims are not wicked. What people see as
wickedness is religious fervor. They try as hard as they can to live by
what they believe. Muslims are not only ready to kill for Islam but to die
for it - a lesson, indeed, to those who say they believe in Jesus but are
not ready to make any sacrifice for Him.

The aversion towards Muslim people is everywhere. An American
missionologist, conducting a survey in Egypt, found that Coptic Chris-
tians (after 1,300 years of severe persecution from Islam) were against
the salvation of Muslims. The Coptics believe it would be grossly unfair
for Muslims to be saved and make it to heaven after enjoying everything
they have on earth at the expense of others.

We need to take to heart the example of Nelson Mandela of South
Africa. After being incarcerated for almost three decades by the support-
ers of Apartheid, he pardoned all those who jailed him, blaming nobody
but the system. Likewise we need to love Muslims but hate the demonic
Islamic system by which they are bound. We are not instructed to fight
human beings but the devil, not with physical weapons, but with the
weapons of God's Word and prayer (Ephesians 6:12). Love that does not
reach out to help those that are hurting is not God's kind of love. (See
Matthew 5:44).

I am convinced that if Jesus was physically present now, He would
not be going to the churches, but to mosques, to bring Muslims into the
kingdom. His parable in Luke 15:3-7 sets the example. Jesus didn't come
to save the righteous, but to bring sinners to repentance. Open the Bible,
read it, and fall upon your knees. We need to ask God to forgive us for
our hardened hearts and our negligence.

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Re: In the Name of Allah
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 11:16:51 AM »
Sorry, AnnaMuslim but you have some responsibilities to take care of before additional posts will be allowed in the forum. Please start here.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1079.msg5809#msg5809

I will move your post to storage with the rest of your spam.

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Re: In the Name of Allah
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 07:06:31 AM »
This is an important website detailing the Quran and Hadith
http://www.inthenameofallah.org/
Video versions
http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran
List of videos by subject
http://www.al-rassooli.com/AhmadsQuran3/

So lets tell you the real story of word 'Allah'.

ALLAH IN THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE

The Rev. C. I. Scofield, D. D. with a team of 8 Consulting Editors, also all D.D.’s in the "Scofield Reference Bible" thought it appropriate to spell the Hebrew word "Elah" (meaning God) alternatively as "Alah" The Christians had thus swallowed the camel — they seemed to have accepted at last that the name of God is Allah — but were still straining at the gnat by spelling Allah with one "L"! (Photographic reproduction of the Bible page showing the word "ALAH" is preserved here for posterity below). References were made in public lectures to this fact by the author of this booklet. Believe me, the subsequent "Scofield Reference Bible" has retained word for word the whole commentary of Genesis 1:1, but has, by a clever sleight-of-hand, blotted out the word "Alah" altogether. There is not even a gap where the word "Alah" once used to be. 1 This is in the Bible of the orthodox! One is hard pressed to keep up with their Jugglery.




Mrs. Ellen G. White, a "prophetess" of the Seventh Day Adventist Church, in her Bible Commentary Vol. 1, page 14, has this confession to make about the fallibility of the "Holy Bible."

"THE BIBLE WE READ TODAY IS THE WORK OF MANY COPYISTS WHO HAVE IN MOST INSTANCES DONE THEIR WORK WITH MARVELLOUS ACCURACY. BUT COPYISTS HAVE NOT BEEN INFALLIBLE, AND GOD MOST EVIDENTLY HAS [size=15t]NOT SEEN FIT [/size]TO PRESERVE THEM ALTOGETHER FROM ERROR IN TRANSCRIBING."

In the following pages of her commentary, Mrs. White testifies further: "I SAW THAT GOD HAD ESPECIALLY GUARDED THE BIBLE" (from what?) "YET WHEN COPIES OF IT WERE FEW, LEARNED MEN HAD IN SOME INSTANCES CHANGED THE WORDS, THINKING THAT THEY WERE MAKING IT PLAIN, WHEN IN REALITY THEY WERE MYSTIFYING THAT WHICH WAS PLAIN, BY CAUSING IT TO LEAN TO THEIR ESTABLISHED VIEWS, WHICH WERE GOVERNED BY TRADITION."

DEVELOPED SICKNESS





The mental malady is a cultivated one. This authoress and her followers can still trumpet from roof tops that "Truly, the Bible is the infallible Word of God." "Yes, it is adulterated, but pure" "It is human, yet divine." Do words have any meaning in their language? Yes, they have in their courts of law, but not in their theology. They carry a "poetic licence" in their preaching.

THE WITNESSES

The most vociferous of all the Bible-thumpers are the Jehovah's Witnesses. On page 5 of their "FOREWORD" mentioned earlier, they confess:

"IN COPYING THE INSPIRED ORIGINALS BY HAND THE ELEMENT OF HUMAN FRAILTY ENTERED IN, AND SO NONE OF THE THOUSANDS OF COPIES EXTANT TODAY IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE ARE PERFECT DUPLICATES. THE RESULT IS THAT NO TWO COPIES ARE EXACTLY ALIKE" Now you see, why the whole "foreword" of 27 pages is eliminated from their Bibles. Allah was making them to hang themselves with their own erudition.





SAY: "CALL UPON ALLAH,

OR CALL UPON RAHMAN

BY WHATEVER NAME YE CALL UPON HIM (it is well):

FOR TO HIM BELONG THE MOST BEAUTIFUL NAMES
   


Holy Qur'aan 17:110





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Re: In the Name of Allah
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 08:41:25 AM »
This is an important website detailing the Quran and Hadith
http://www.inthenameofallah.org/
Video versions
http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran
List of videos by subject
http://www.al-rassooli.com/AhmadsQuran3/

So lets tell you the real story of word 'Allah'.

ALLAH IN THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE

The Rev. C. I. Scofield, D. D. with a team of 8 Consulting Editors, also all D.D.’s in the "Scofield Reference Bible" thought it appropriate to spell the Hebrew word "Elah" (meaning God) alternatively as "Alah" The Christians had thus swallowed the camel — they seemed to have accepted at last that the name of God is Allah — but were still straining at the gnat by spelling Allah with one "L"!

See how you love to tickle your antichrist ears and seek comfort in the words of men?
C. I. Scofield introduced John Nelson Darby's false 19th futurist doctrine into part of the 20th century church, against the advice of sound bible scholars of his day.

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Re: In the Name of Allah
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 08:48:14 AM »
The following is written by Dr. Rafat Amari. These are his words, but they are based on his 20 year study of Islam. Until you bring EVIDENCE that Mecca existed before the 4th century, or the Kaaba before the early 5th century we can continue to depend on his accounts of the historical record. You would also have to bring historical or archaeological EVIDENCE to support the ridiculous 7th and 8th century fictional islamic history that demonstrates that Abraham and Ishmael ever had anything whatsoever to do with Mecca, and so far you are in epic failure in that regard.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1483.0

So what did Dr. Amari discover through the actual historical record?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1240.0

The Origin of "Allah' and How the Name was Developed from the god of the Moon in Arabia, as it is Attested in Various Arabian Inscriptions.

We know that the term "Allah," as the god of the moon, was derived from the Thamud god of the moon. His name was Hilal, or Hlal, which means "crescent." Later, the name "Hilal" became Hilah, as we see in many inscriptions which were found in Arabia. In the Thamud inscriptions he is found as H-ilah, Ha-ilah and H-alah. We see the same development for "Hilah," the moon deity in Yemen, where Almaqah is called "Halal,' or "Hilal, the Crescent." 15

Safaitic tribes were nomads wandering in many parts of Arabia, especially in the north. The god of the moon was found in their inscriptions as "H-lah." in the Safaitic inscriptions, the letter "H" pronounced as "Ha" is the definite article, "the." It corresponds to the Arabic, "Al."16 This led the Arabians to call him "Al-lah."

The big Star Athtar - Venus - Replaces the Moon for the Title of "Allah"

From the Thamudic inscriptions, we know that Venus worship endeavored to overshadow the worship of other deities of Arabia, willing to impose itself as the monotheistic worship of northern Arabia. The worshippers of "the big star' even underestimated the worship of the other members of the Star Family, such as the worship of the wife of the head, Ellat, which represented the sun, or the worship of the moon itself. Over time, Venus stole the title of "Allah" from the moon. Both the moon and the sun became subjects to Allah, the biggest star. We encounter this concept in the Qur'an, where it says:

He subjected the sun and the moon till they say Allah. (Sura 29:61)

This was because competition grew between the different members of the Star Family. The worshippers of Allah, the biggest star, considered other deities of the Star Family as subordinate to Allah, and maintained that he was the most important in the Star Family. They taught that the other stars became servants to Allah and worshipped him before his throne. The followers of Allah, the head of Arabian Star Family Worship, professed and fought against the followers and worshippers of the other members of the Star Family. This concept of the supremacy of the head of the Star Family over the rest of the members of the family is encountered very clearly in the Qur'an. In the Sura 36;38, we read, "the sun goes to an abiding place." Mohammed then explained this verse in his Hadith saying;

The sun goes to the throne of Allah where it worships the moon.

There are many Hadith of Mohammed in which he claimed that the setting sun goes to the throne of Allah. We quote a Hadith reported in Bukhari, the authoritative book containing the most-confirmed Hadith of Mohammed:

From Abi al-Thur. 'I asked the prophet, peace upon him from Allah, about the verse of Allah in the Qur'an which states that 'the sun goes to an abiding place,' the prophet answered; 'the sun's abiding place is under the throne.'17

Another hadith also reported in Bukhari:

I was with the prophet in the mosque when the sun was setting. he asked me: "Do you know where the sun goes after the sunset?" I answered: "Allah and his prophet better know." The prophet said: "The sun goes under the throne in order to worship, this is the interpretation of Allah's saying 'the sun goes to an abiding place'".18

Al-Tabari also reported a Hadith of Mohammed, in which he describes the sun and the moon going to the throne of Allah to worship.19

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Arabian Monotheism, Which is Based on the Star Venus-Athtar, is the Root of Mohammed's Monotheism

In later times, Athtar, which was the planet Venus, and called the son of the moon, was venerated by the Yemeni tribes. Athtar's worship spread to the north and replaced the moon as Allah. Athtar became the chief deity for monotheism in Arabia. his worshippers rejected the other gods who were worshipped in Arabia and insisted that Athtar, who became Allah, must be worshipped alone. This worship was at the root of Mohammed's monotheistic ideas.

The Qur'an copied the attributes given to Athtar and attributed them to Allah. in Yemeni inscriptions, we find Athtar Khaham, which corresponds in the Arabic of the Qur'an to 'al-Khadir" which means 'the potent," a term used to refer to Allah. We also find in the inscriptions attributed to Athtar the title: 'Athtar al-kaher," which means "Athtar the conqueror,' which we find also attributed to Allah in the Qur'an. We also find another term, 'Athtar Yaglin' which is translated in the Qur'an as "al-montakim," which means "the revenger" or "revengeful.' Still another term referring to Athtar was "Athtar Samum" corresponding to the Arabic of the Qur'an as 'Samie', or 'hearer.' All these titles were attributed to Allah in the Qur'an.31

We see, also, that Attar, in some Thamudic inscriptions, is given the title of 'Rami,' which, in the Arabic language of Mecca and the Qur'an, means 'Akbar,' translated 'the biggest.' This is the same title given to Allah in the Qur'an. The intention of the worshippers of Venus was to say that the Venus deity star was the biggest of all stars. Both Allah in the Qur'an, and Athtar in the Thamudic inscriptions are called 'Rahim,' which means merciful.32 in the inscriptions from the area of Teima, there is a mention of a star called 'Lame'h,' which means 'bright." This is most likely a reference to Venus, which is given in the inscriptions of the title of 'Rahim,'33

The Qur'an has copied many attributes of Arabian gods and given them to Allah. For example, the Thamud gods are described with the inscription;

he was not conceived nor generated nor born. 34

This expression often was used in the Jahiliyah period; in fact, Kes Bin Saideh mentioned it in his sayings.35 Mohammed used to listen to Kes Bin Saideh when he was young. The same idea was copied in the Qur'an and used about Allah, such as Surah al-khlas 112;3, 'he begetteth not, nor is he begotten." This became a verse in the Qur'an.

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Connections of Mecca with Athtar-Venus's worship, and with other Kaabahs that were built for the same kind of pagan worship.

The Athtar-Venus worship was in places like the Kaabah of mecca.39 Al-Masudi, another islamic historian, says that the Kaabah of Mecca is furnished in the same style as a Kaabah in Yemen, which is dedicated to the worship of Venus.40 This helps us see that the Kabbah in Mecca relates to the same worship of Venus (and others) in the Star Family.

Al-Masudi also reveals that, for each region in Arabia, there was a special star which was considered the main deity venerated by the inhabitants of the region. he goes on to say that Venus was the star of Mecca, Tathrib and Yemen.41

Athtar - Venus became Allah, who appears at mecca in the third pert of each night. Mohammed shared the same concepts of this star deity.

No wonder Venus snatched the title "Allah" from the moon. later, the same Athtar-Venus was called "Allah" in Mecca and in other parts of northern Arabia. Allah became a great and high star which descended every third part of the night to appear to his worshippers. We can see this from many authors who wrote about the life of Mohammed, and who wrote about the life and creeds of Jahiliyah, the period before Islam. Among the authors was Ali Bin Burnan al-Din al-Halabi, known as the author of Halabieh. he wrote that Allah descends to the heaven of this world when it is the last part of the night.42 It is clear that, by the word "Allah," they meant the morning star which they saw in the third portion of each night.

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The Hadith contains Mohammed's words, and is considered by Muslims as inspired. in the book of Sahih al-Bukhari, the book which contains the authoritative hadith of Mohammed, we find the words of Mohammed;

Allah, our lord, his name is blessed and high, descends to the heaven of this world every night when it remains in the last third of the night.43

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Islam is a form of the Arabian religion of the Star Family Worship of Mohammed's time. The veil that tries to hide this reality falls when we study the roots of the Islamic religion. The face of the old Arabian religion is easily recognized and identified.

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Much more in the book "Islam: In Light of History" by Dr. Rafat Amari
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/

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Re: In the Name of Allah
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 09:20:28 AM »
Punisher, no how much you wish it were so, the moon god's name "allah" will never mean "I AM", in Arabic, Koine Greek, or in any other language on earth.

Exd 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, [when] I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What [is] his name? what shall I say unto them?  14   And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.  

But because you reject the Scriptures you must believe the one true God is a liar, because you follow Mohammed's moon god "allah".
But then the Islamic kingdom "beast" blasphemy of God's name was prophesied

Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

See? You blaspheme God's name.

And you blaspheme His tabernacle every time you blaspheme the body of Christ.

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;  20   And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];  21   In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:  22   In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Hbr 8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.  

And you blaspheme them that dwell in heaven through your blasphemy against Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke John and all the rest of the witnesses of Jesus Christ, all to follow a 7th century false prophet whose corpse still lies rotting in it's shallow grave.

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Re: In the Name of Allah
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 11:47:34 AM »
Punisher, no how much you wish it were so, the moon god's name "allah" will never mean "I AM", in Arabic, Koine Greek, or in any other language on earth.

Exd 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, [when] I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What [is] his name? what shall I say unto them?  14   And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.  

But because you reject the Scriptures you must believe the one true God is a liar, because you follow Mohammed's moon god "allah".
But then the Islamic kingdom "beast" blasphemy of God's name was prophesied

Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

See? You blaspheme God's name.

And you blaspheme His tabernacle every time you blaspheme the body of Christ.

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;  20   And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];  21   In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:  22   In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Hbr 8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.  

And you blaspheme them that dwell in heaven through your blasphemy against Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke John and all the rest of the witnesses of Jesus Christ, all to follow a 7th century false prophet whose corpse still lies rotting in it's shallow grave.



Ok Dear Peter it's seem that in defending Christianity you have rejected your own book

let see more cases, so that u may believe in your own Bible


The words "elaw" in Aramaic, and "ilah" in Arabic are words that were derived from the root word "Allah".  Allah Almighty is the GOD of the Universe, and He is the Supreme GOD.  When Jesus cried to GOD Almighty "Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani?"   in Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34, he said "My God my God why have you foresaken me?" in English translation.  "Eloi" is derived from "Elaw", and the later is derived from "Allah".


Conclusion:
The Aramaic "Elaw" and the Arabic "Allah" are the same.  The Aramaic "Elaw" is derived from the Arabic "Allah", and it means "GOD".  "Allah" in Arabic also means "GOD", the Supreme GOD Almighty.  You can easily see the close similarity in their pronunciation.

 




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Re: In the Name of Allah
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 11:58:22 AM »
Punisher, no how much you wish it were so, the moon god's name "allah" will never mean "I AM", in Arabic, Koine Greek, or in any other language on earth.

Exd 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, [when] I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What [is] his name? what shall I say unto them?  14   And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.  

But because you reject the Scriptures you must believe the one true God is a liar, because you follow Mohammed's moon god "allah".
But then the Islamic kingdom "beast" blasphemy of God's name was prophesied

Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

See? You blaspheme God's name.

And you blaspheme His tabernacle every time you blaspheme the body of Christ.

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;  20   And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];  21   In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:  22   In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Hbr 8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.  

And you blaspheme them that dwell in heaven through your blasphemy against Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke John and all the rest of the witnesses of Jesus Christ, all to follow a 7th century false prophet whose corpse still lies rotting in it's shallow grave.



Ok Dear Peter it's seem that in defending Christianity you have rejected your own book

let see more cases, so that u may believe in your own Bible


The words "elaw" in Aramaic, and "ilah" in Arabic are words that were derived from the root word "Allah".  Allah Almighty is the GOD of the Universe, and He is the Supreme GOD.  When Jesus cried to GOD Almighty "Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani?"   in Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34, he said "My God my God why have you foresaken me?" in English translation.  "Eloi" is derived from "Elaw", and the later is derived from "Allah".


Conclusion:
The Aramaic "Elaw" and the Arabic "Allah" are the same.  The Aramaic "Elaw" is derived from the Arabic "Allah", and it means "GOD".  "Allah" in Arabic also means "GOD", the Supreme GOD Almighty.  You can easily see the close similarity in their pronunciation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
"Elohim is a Hebrew word which expresses concepts of divinity or deity, notably used as a name of God in Judaism. Its Arabic equivalent is Elohiah. Simply put, its the transliteration for the word 'divinity' in English."

That's a term for the concept of divinity, like the term God. Like the Arabic word ilah.

It is not God's name. God's name is YHWH - Yahweh - I AM. Just as He said it was.
You and all of Mohammed's followers are blasphemers of God's name, as I showed you was prophesied of Mohammed's Islamic kingdom "beast".
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1160.msg6238#msg6238

Arabic language bibles, and Arab Christians, blaspheme God's name without understanding what they are doing. I believe they will see their error, and come to repentance, thanks to this information age.

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Re: In the Name of Allah
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 12:00:27 PM »
See? You blaspheme God's name.


And you blaspheme His tabernacle every time you blaspheme the body of Christ.


Dear Peter what u do u say about the ur Anti Christ Paul, what he said, are u trying to igore it, or just defending the Paul, or Paul is more important than Jesus, Cau please throw some light on it.

and what about Paul's blasphemous statement:  
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Re: In the Name of Allah
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 12:08:40 PM »
See? You blaspheme God's name.


And you blaspheme His tabernacle every time you blaspheme the body of Christ.


Dear Peter what u do u say about the ur Anti Christ Paul, what he said, are u trying to igore it, or just defending the Paul, or Paul is more important than Jesus, Cau please throw some light on it.

and what about Paul's blasphemous statement about God  

Paul, like the rest of the authors of the new covenant was IN CHRIST, and Christ in him.

It is Mohammedans that are SPECIFICALLY ANTICHRIST through the most important fundamental of Mohammed's satanically inspired 7th century repackaged Arabian pagan star and demon worship.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=59.0

And phony Ishak and Tabari created 7th and 8th century Mohammedan fictional history.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1483.0

1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].