Conversation related to understanding Jewish people in scripture

[Pete]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpX0cxCt7mg
This is a copy and pasted PM exchange that is subject to be moved to the preterist section if the discussion turns more heavily that way.

[[[ Do you know why I named my video that?]]] (title: The Accuser of the Brethren is Back at It Again!)

Perhaps because that's what those were doing to their brethren, though I guess the "back at it again" is a bit lost on me.
I may have a little different understanding than most Christians in regard to the issue of salvation of Jews.
I consider genealogical Jews - that are regenerate - both "Messianic" - Christian, as well as those that haven't yet recognized Jesus as their Messiah, to be my brethren.
Those that I know, would never behave in the fashion of those on the video, being humble meek souls themselves, though if one of their own family converted they would likely hold the traditional funeral (even though he is still living) for him. While I understand that those Jews that love their God may not consider me their brother, I nonetheless consider them mine.
This link, or the attached video might help explain why I believe what I do. http://www.israelinbibleprophecy.com/spirit_of_slumber.htm

[[[[[I looked at your article and believe in the blindness in part but believe it is talking about believers whch can include Judah. But this is what I found out about Judah...
I titled it that because the accuser of the brethren (satan) is NOT a supernatural being but apostat Judah (Jews) and they are "back at it again!" since 1948 as I have in my title.
In Revelation 12:10c, “the accuser (national Judaism, in the NT Jews are identified as accusers more than 30 times) of our brothers (Christians) is cast down...” Note that in 20:3 satan (the adversary of Christianity, “synagogue of satan” Rev.2:9, 3:9) is bound specifically that “he should deceive the nations no more.” And then in verse 8 he ( the Zionist Jew, the great harlot, the deceiver of the nations) is released to “go out and deceive the nations” again!

Here's the rest of the article:
http://blog.properpreterism.org/2008/03/17/the-abyss.aspx ]]]

How can you expect to understand what Revelation 2:9 is about if you don't try to understand just what a Jew is?
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.
Though I was born Gentile, I am a Jew. At least more so than a genealogical Jew, that is agnostic or atheist. Bigots lump all Jews in scripture into one group.

Daniel date pinned the restoration of the Jews to their land in 1948 and to their city in 1967 - right to the year - and he did it 500 years BC as per attached video. Two parallel prophecies, spanning 2500 years each, in perfect parallel.
First year Belshazzar 552BC + 2500 = 1948
Third year Cyrus 533BC + 2500 = 1967
"...when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people..."
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm
I believe "Christian" anti-Zionists - largely from from Alcazar's preterist camp - may contain the highest number of candidates for synagogue of Satan. That's why some Presbyterian leaders even went as far as to meet with Hezbollah for example.
But Islamic violence isn't about Zionism. Otherwise they wouldn't be beheading Christian teenage girls in Indonesia, or blowing up things in India and Thailand. Islam is, and has always been, about global conquest. The dar el salam against the dar el harb.
The 12,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11 don't have anything to do with Zionism.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com<br />You are marching shoulder to shoulder with the Islamic fundamentalists, but somehow don't seem to notice. I'll pray for you.
Meanwhile I'd recommend more soul searching and less finger pointing. I believe you may well be the accuser of the brethren, my friend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdi8PzPWrb8

[[[ No, I don't believe Nero was the anti-christ, but there are different preterist views that I believe are biblical. I thought you were against a futurist view and therefore had a preterist view?]]]

Preterism was invented by a Catholic Jesuit named Alcazar in the 17th century to fool the reformers. Just as the futurist view was invented by Jesuit Ribera for the same reason in the 16th century. The reformers didn't buy it. Darby simply put his 7 year spin on Ribera/deLacunza/Irving's doctrine.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/end_time_myth.htm
My view is the traditional continuous-historic view of the reformers and much of the church until the 20th century. The same view you yourself hold for Old Testament prophecy. That prophecy is fulfilled steadily as the era it is written about gradually unfolds:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm

[[["Meanwhile I'd recommend more soul searching and less finger pointing. I believe you may well be the accuser of the brethren, my friend."
I'm not fingerpointing just using proper hermeneutics by letting scripture interpret scripture.]]]

But you didn't because you ignored WHAT SCRIPTURE SAYS a Jew is.

[[[Who are the brethren from your perspective?]]]

Just as the verses that define a Jew said:
Rom 2:29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.
My brethren are ALL those with a circumcision of the heart be they Jew or Gentile.

[[[ Did you find something BIBLICALLY wrong with that email I sent you? If so what? What you wrote above does not refute what I wrote to you about apostate Judah the accuser of the brethren. Unless maybe you agree, but it does not sound like it. If you disagree show me how I am misinterpreting using the Bible ONLY.]]]

You are genealogical Jew focused. So was Hitler. You narrowed the description of accuser to that group.

[[[[I titled it that because the accuser of the brethren (satan) is NOT a supernatural being but apostat Judah (Jews) and they are &quot;back at it again!&quot; since 1948 as I have in my title.
"Often I see this tendency in preterists because they misunderstanding Jesus' use of the term "generation" in Matthew 23.
"You are genealogical Jew focused. So was Hitler. You narrowed the description of accuser to that group."
Your above statement is not a biblical argument. It doesn't matter what I think it is what the Bible says that matters. As a Christian I'm not prejudice against any race EXCEPT those that reject Christ.
"Often I see this tendency in preterists because they misunderstanding Jesus' use of the term "generation" in Matthew 23."
You mean Matt 24 I think. So you hold a futurist view then it seems.]]]

You apparently didn't read what I wrote, nor took a look at the link I sent.

[[[ What is Jesus' right use of the term "generation".]]]

No I meant Matt 23: Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Now I am going to copy and paste our conversation into a thread in the forum. That way we can quote each other and be accountable to each other for prior statements. That way others can benefit too.
I spend enough time with Muslims misunderstanding, that subsequently prefer the dark alley of PMing as a result.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php
When I get a chance to move it and show you where it is. You can create any kind of identity you want. It need not be linked at all to your YouTube identity.

[[[[ That's fine let me know when and where, but later I have to leave for now.
No I meant Matt 23: Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
How does this verse pertain to a future eschatology?]]]]

[Pete]

[[[[ That's fine let me know when and where, but later I have to leave for now.

No I meant Matt 23: Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

How does this verse pertain to a future eschatology?]]]]

It has to do with the original topic which includes the relationship between God and His people.

Preterists condemn ALL Jews of that literal "generation" as though they were all guilty. This then continues to reinforce the kind of anti-semetism expressed in folks saying stuff like "the Jews" killed Jesus, etc.

But it should be obvious on the face of it that Jesus wouldn't be measuring men simply by the happenstance of their birth. Just because they happened to be 40 (age for serving in the temple I believe) or older.

When I study scripture I see two groups of genealogical Jews. Those regenerate and those unregenerate.
If I didn't discriminate then I would have to apply the same rule to Gentiles and lump Gentile atheists, agnostics and idol worshipers in with Christians, as though they were all the same too.


Can we find a reasonable way of understanding the term that IS TRANSLATED as generation in that verse?

Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

  [ye] generation
New Testament Greek Definition:
1081 gennema {ghen'-nay-mah}
from 1080; TDNT - 1:672,114; n n
AV - fruit 5, generation 4; 9
1) that which has been born or begotten
1a) the offspring or progeny of men or animals
1b) the fruits of the earth, the produce of agriculture

We can see that in the KJV it is translated as "fruit" even more often than it is "generation".
And then in:

 Matthew 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

generation - Check Strong's here
New Testament Greek Definition:
1074 genea {ghen-eh-ah'}
from (a presumed derivative of) 1085; TDNT - 1:662,114; n f
AV - generation 37, time 2, age 2, nation 1; 42
1) fathered, birth, nativity
2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family
2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the successive
members of a genealogy
2b) metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments,
pursuits, character
2b1) esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation
3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time
4) an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive
generation), a space of 30 - 33 years

We find a very reasonable way to understand the term that is translated as "generation" as men that share the same attributes, which is a perfect fit.

I would suggest that the "church" bears the guilt of at least one of the attributes that Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for:

Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

[Pete]

[[[ No, I don't believe Nero was the anti-christ, but there are different preterist views that I believe are biblical. I thought you were against a futurist view and therefore had a preterist view?]]]



Preterism was invented by a Catholic Jesuit named Alcazar in the 17th century to fool the reformers.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=alcazar+preterism&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

Just as the futurist view was invented by Jesuit Ribera for the same reason in the 16th century. The reformers didn't buy it. Darby simply put his 7 year spin on Ribera/deLacunza/Irving's doctrine.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/end_time_myth.htm

My view is the traditional continuous-historic view of the reformers and much of the church until the 20th century. The same view you yourself hold for Old Testament prophecy. That prophecy is fulfilled steadily as the era it is written about gradually unfolds:

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm



[[[You mean Matt 24 I think. So you hold a futurist view then it seems.]]]

I think this was the comment you made before you saw the PM concerning the traditional continuous-historic view that I hold. That you and I both hold for Old Testament prophecy. This is one of the reasons I wanted to move into this venue where we could plainly see what we had written and what we had missed.

My understanding is uniform for Old and New Testament prophecy.

[Pete]

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Daniel date pinned the restoration of the Jews to their land in 1948 and to their city in 1967 - right to the year - and he did it 500 years BC as per attached video. Two parallel prophecies, spanning 2500 years each, in perfect parallel.

First year Belshazzar 552BC + 2500 = 1948
Third year Cyrus 533BC + 2500 = 1967
when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

I believe "Christian" anti-Zionists - largely from from Alcazar's preterist camp - may contain the highest number of candidates for synagogue of Satan. That's why some Presbyterian leaders even went as far as to meet with Hezbollah for example.

But Islamic violence isn't about Zionism. Otherwise they wouldn't be beheading Christian teenage girls in Indonesia, or blowing up things in India and Thailand. Islam is, and has always been, about global conquest. The dar el salam against the dar el harb.

The 12,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11 don't have anything to do with Zionism.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
You are marching shoulder to shoulder with the Islamic fundamentalists, but somehow don't seem to notice. I'll pray for you.
Meanwhile I'd recommend more soul searching and less finger pointing. I believe you may well be the accuser of the brethren, my friend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdi8PzPWrb8

I don't know if you missed this or chose to ignore it. It is important for you to consider the above for our conversation to move forward.

A little more recent history of Israel might help:
"A History of the Jews" - Paul Johnson - page 321: "Between 1827 and 1839, largely through British efforts, the population of Jerusalem rose from 550 to 5,500 and in all Palestine it topped 10,000 - the real beginning of the Jewish return to the Promised Land. In 1838 Palmerston appointed the first western vice-consul in Jerusalem, W.T. Young, and told him "to afford protection to the Jews generally"
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/matthew_24_olivet_discourse.htm

Even by 1867 Mark Twain still described it thus: " ...[a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds-a silent mournful expanse....A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action....We never saw a human being on the whole route....There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

1300 years of Islamization completely desolated Jerusalem.

Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/matthew_24_olivet_discourse.htm

[Pete]

[[[[[I looked at your article and believe in the blindness in part but believe it is talking about believers whch can include Judah.

We can discuss this on a more specific thread:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=36.0

[Pete]

You are genealogical Jew focused. So was Hitler. You narrowed the description of accuser to that group.

" I titled it that because the accuser of the brethren (satan) is NOT a supernatural being but apostat Judah (Jews) and they are "back at it again!" since 1948 as I have in my title."

Often I see this tendency in preterists because they misunderstanding Jesus' use of the term "generation" in Matthew 23.



[[[ "You are genealogical Jew focused. So was Hitler. You narrowed the description of accuser to that group."

Your above statement is not a biblical argument. It doesn't matter what I think it is what the Bible says that matters. As a Christian I'm not prejudice against any race EXCEPT those that reject Christ.

If this is an honest statement then what does rejection of Christ have to do with 1948 and Jews?
Particularly since there is no such thing as a race that rejects Jesus Christ.

[Pete]

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In Revelation 12:10c, “the accuser (national Judaism, in the NT Jews are identified as accusers more than 30 times) of our brothers (Christians) is cast down...” Note that in 20:3 satan (the adversary of Christianity, “synagogue of satan” Rev.2:9, 3:9) is bound specifically that “he should deceive the nations no more.” And then in verse 8 he ( the Zionist Jew, the great harlot, the deceiver of the nations) is released to “go out and deceive the nations” again!

Did you even read Revelation 12:10 in the briefest of contexts by including 12:9?

(KJV) Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

The event happens, and then a voice proclaims the event.
So what would a reasonable understanding of the identity of the accuser of our brethren be?
Now look at what you wrote. I bolded parts for emphasis.
I would avoid the skinhead sites if I were you.

Might you be so busy bashing Jews you don't notice satan's direct accusation of the brethren when you see it:

Surah 9.30 The Jews call Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

1.5 billion accusers / tools of satan.
Did you know that declaring Jesus to be the Son of God (shirk) is the ONLY unforgivable sin in Islam?
Mohammed's stand-alone 7th century religion is THE PERFECT OPPOSITE of that inspired by God.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=56.0
   

[stevehauk]

Preterists condemn ALL Jews of that literal "generation" as though they were all guilty. This then continues to reinforce the kind of anti-semetism expressed in folks saying stuff like "the Jews" killed Jesus, etc.

Pete (if that's your name), regarding the statement you made about preterist above--you better do your researh a little better because that's a huge accusation that I can prove is wrong.  Go to preteristarchive.com, there is a vast array of preterism and I can tell you right now the Jews were just as divided then as Christians are today so it would be nonsense to ascribe all preterist as condemning all the jews of that generation.  That system of Judaism and probably most of the high priest, but not all Jews.

There were Jews that believed and Jews that didn't believe just like all other religions.  However the high priests of that time were the adversary whose kingdom was divided in Matt 12:25-26.  Therefore, what i stated earlier regarding the accuser of the brethren you still have not adressed.  My point is it IS biblical and that's all that matters was my point.  it doesn't matter what kind of person you think I might be or anything.  The only question a Christian should be asking is, is it biblical.

[Pete]

Do you find it a little hypocritical that earlier you wrote: "If you disagree show me how I am misinterpreting using the Bible ONLY." And now you state: "The only question a Christian should be asking is, is it biblical."

And I presented Rev 12:9 and 10 in the post immediately above your reply, which demonstrated the preposterous nature of your understanding of that section of scripture, and the definition of accuser, yet you ignored the Bible completely in your reply.

I even went on to show you the perfect accusation from a reprobate illiterate false prophet's stand-alone 7th century religion, and his deceived followers unto today, yet for some reason it wasn't even worth a mention. How come? Did you stop to wonder why? Forever is a very long time my friend.

[stevehauk]

Insert Quote
Do you find it a little hypocritical that earlier you wrote: "If you disagree show me how I am misinterpreting using the Bible ONLY." And now you state: "The only question a Christian should be asking is, is it biblical."

??

And I presented Rev 12:9 and 10 in the post immediately above your reply, which demonstrated the preposterous nature of your understanding of that section of scripture, and the definition of accuser, yet you ignored the Bible completely in your reply.

Sorry if I missed it.  Could you reply with it again?

I even went on to show you the perfect accusation from a reprobate illiterate false prophet's stand-alone 7th century religion, and his deceived followers unto today, yet for some reason it wasn't even worth a mention. How come? Did you stop to wonder why? Forever is a very long time my friend.

??  Again, I don't know what you mean.  Please elaborate some more.

[stevehauk]

I GOT IT, BUT PLEASE REPLY TO THE OTHER STATEMENTS OF YOURS I QUESTIONED:

Did you even read Revelation 12:10 in the briefest of contexts by including 12:9?

(KJV) Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

The event happens, and then a voice proclaims the event.
So what would a reasonable understanding of the identity of the accuser of our brethren be?
Now look at what you wrote. I bolded parts for emphasis.
I would avoid the skinhead sites if I were you.

WHO'S BEING THE ACCUSER NOW?!?  THAT'S A LITTLE UNCALLED FOR, I'M NOT PREJUDICE AGAINST ANYONE I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE BIBLE SYMBOLICALLY SAYS LITERALLY.  I'VE NEVER EVEN KNOWN A JEWISH PERSON!!


Might you be so busy bashing Jews you don't notice satan's direct accusation of the brethren when you see it:

Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

1.5 billion accusers / tools of satan.
Did you know that declaring Jesus to be the Son of God (shirk) is the ONLY unforgivable sin in Islam?
Mohammed's stand-alone 7th century religion is THE PERFECT OPPOSITE of that inspired by God.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE A CHRISTIAN.  YOU'RE MUSLIM??

ANYWAY DOES ISLAM FIND IT UNFORGIVABLE TO CALL THE FIRST ADAM (ADAM AND EVE), THE SON OF GOD???  BECAUSE HE IS AND I CAN PROVE IT.

[Pete]

Insert Quote
Do you find it a little hypocritical that earlier you wrote: "If you disagree show me how I am misinterpreting using the Bible ONLY." And now you state: "The only question a Christian should be asking is, is it biblical."

??

And I presented Rev 12:9 and 10 in the post immediately above your reply, which demonstrated the preposterous nature of your understanding of that section of scripture, and the definition of accuser, yet you ignored the Bible completely in your reply.

Sorry if I missed it.  Could you reply with it again?

Third post up: http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=144.msg466#msg466

I even went on to show you the perfect accusation from a reprobate illiterate false prophet's stand-alone 7th century religion, and his deceived followers unto today, yet for some reason it wasn't even worth a mention. How come? Did you stop to wonder why? Forever is a very long time my friend.

??  Again, I don't know what you mean.  Please elaborate some more.

Second half of third post up: http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=144.msg466#msg466

[Pete]

I GOT IT, BUT PLEASE REPLY TO THE OTHER STATEMENTS OF YOURS I QUESTIONED:

Did you even read Revelation 12:10 in the briefest of contexts by including 12:9?

(KJV) Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

The event happens, and then a voice proclaims the event.
So what would a reasonable understanding of the identity of the accuser of our brethren be?
Now look at what you wrote. I bolded parts for emphasis.
I would avoid the skinhead sites if I were you.

WHO'S BEING THE ACCUSER NOW?!?

That warped sick proof texted "interpretation" that the "accuser" is "(national Judaism...)" obviously has no basis because even a child could see that the verses reference Satan as the accuser.
A creation (not interpretation) so warped and misguided as that COULD NEVER be interpreted that way in context, and so is the stuff of skinheads.
That's why I recommended that you not visit sites of anti-Semite skinheads.

THAT'S A LITTLE UNCALLED FOR, I'M NOT PREJUDICE AGAINST ANYONE I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE BIBLE SYMBOLICALLY SAYS LITERALLY.

But you can see from just the 2 verses, that what you proffered cannot be what the bible says at all.
Did I label you prejudiced, or recommend that you not visit skinhead sites?

I'VE NEVER EVEN KNOWN A JEWISH PERSON!!

If you had known a Jewish person (with a circumcision of the heart) you likely wouldn't have been so gullible as to buy into such a warped interpretation.
But you can see from just the 2 verses that it isn't what the bible says at all.
Did I label you prejudiced, or recommend that you not visit skinhead sites?

Might you be so busy bashing Jews you don't notice satan's direct accusation of the brethren when you see it:

Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

1.5 billion accusers / tools of satan.
Did you know that declaring Jesus to be the Son of God (shirk) is the ONLY unforgivable sin in Islam?
Mohammed's stand-alone 7th century religion is THE PERFECT OPPOSITE of that inspired by God.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE A CHRISTIAN.  YOU'RE MUSLIM??

How does exposing the Quran as satanic and the exact OPPOSITE of God's Word make me a Muslim?
Or my declaring that "Mohammed's stand-alone 7th century religion is THE PERFECT OPPOSITE of that inspired by God." make me a Muslim?
Or my referring to Mohammed's followers as "tools of satan" make me a Muslim?

ANYWAY DOES ISLAM FIND IT UNFORGIVABLE TO CALL THE FIRST ADAM (ADAM AND EVE), THE SON OF GOD???  BECAUSE HE IS AND I CAN PROVE IT.

Please "prove" that Adam would be considered - at most - any more of A son of God than I am, which would have ended at Adam's fall anyway.

Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

There is ONLY ONE BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. And that is Jesus Christ.
In God's own words:
Mar 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, [saying], Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
That's singular Son.
http://cf.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=my+beloved+son&t=KJV

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=55.0