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Obama and his Kenyan and Indonesian Citizenship
« on: June 12, 2010, 12:04:23 PM »
Revamped OP
You can scroll to the 2:00 minute mark to skip the contrived fake video at the beginning of this video (which I admit I fell for)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8

On April 28, 2011 I downloaded a birth certificate which appears to be the same as the ones explored here including shadows around signatures and such:
more on document construction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc3b8xVJStU

rebuttal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9j7ksEw1YU

So today I did a quick search that took me to: http://www.slideshare.net/whitehouse/birth-certificatelongform
But you have to create a user ID now to download the PDF. The outlines around the print still appear not to have been repaired (tangled web?).

computer generated conclusion after 6 months and 2200 hours of investigation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDXhK0CbeaI

Has Obama spent $800,000 fighting the issue of his citizenship?

This subject popped up again and perhaps folks can post more evidence.
This is one former Hawaii government employee's testimony.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo3Aj2eqmS8

Why did Obama wait "2 - 2-1/2 years" to release his birth certificate?
"Normally I wouldn't comment on something like this, because obviously there's a lot of stuff swirlin in the press on any given day. .... n I've got other things to do."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=79PHwza4row
http://www.valuesvoternews.com/2011/04/finally-president-obama-releases-his.html

Does that seem like a plausable excuse in light of the several law suits prior to that time, and which continue into summer of 2012, along with polls such as the on back in August of 2010 in which only 42% of Americans polled believed he was a U.S. citizen?
http://www.valuesvoternews.com/2010/08/video-chris-matthews-reports-that-only.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yft0kz_fbnA

http://www.valuesvoternews.com/2009/07/snopescom-changes-hospital-of-obamas.html

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Obama's Kenyan Birth
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 09:54:23 AM »
Got this email today.
"Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital's name didn't come into existence until 1978. Before that time the hospital was called Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. On Obama's certificate it says he was born at Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...-long-form.pdf

The name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapiolani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?”

I posted it in YouTube (I don't know why since I never post political stuff) with an "Don't know if true" caveat and got called on it so I was stuck having to research it.
 
Here's the link from the white house
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

It does indeed say "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital"
________________________________

From the hospital site

"A Century of Care for Hawaii's Women and Children

This is the story of two hospitals: Kauikeolani Children's Hospital and Kapi‘olani Maternity Home.

Concerned about the welfare of Hawaii's mothers, Queen Kapi‘olani held luau and bazaars to raise the $8,000 needed to open Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1890. She endowed her legacy with “Kulia i ka nu‘u” or “Strive for the highest.”

In 1908, Albert and Emma Kauikeolani Wilcox donated $50,000 to start a children's hospital. The community, concerned that two of every seven infants in Hawai‘i did not live to see their first birthday, rallied to match the Wilcox's gift. A year later, Kauikeolani Children's Hospital opened.

The two hospitals joined in 1978 to become Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children. Staying true to its mission, the non-profit hospital has played a vital role in the health of Hawaii's women, children and adolescents."
http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx

This link claims that another birth certificate with that name was issued a day after Obama's.
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/yes-there-was-a-kapiolani-maternity-gynecological-hospital-in-1961/

What about Obama's own admission in the original post? Is there a context that could have been removed from that would change what he said?

“Well first of all, it’s true, I'm not an American. I was not born in Hawaii, and I wasn’t born in the United States of America. Uh .... I come from Kenya.”

The video clip ends abruptly. Did he conclude with "ha ha ha I'm only foolin"!?

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Re: Obama and his Kenyan and Indonesian Citizenship
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 10:11:55 AM »

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Re: Obama and his Kenyan and Indonesian Citizenship
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2011, 03:51:18 PM »
Obama Unconstitutional "President" Not President at all!

http://www.paulstramer.net/2011/07/obama-unconstitutional-president-not.html

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Re: Obama and his Kenyan and Indonesian Citizenship
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 08:03:41 AM »
http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/media-finally-paying-attention-to-eligibility/

Media finally paying attention to eligibility?
See which major networks plan on covering Cold Case Posse results

PHOENIX, Ariz. – Poll after poll in recent months has indicated that Americans have a high level of concern over Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president, with one poll showing fully half of the nation wants Congress to investigate the question.

But reporters for the traditional media – networks, major newspapers, major news corporations and conglomerates – mostly have giggled when talk turns to the serious question of just what the U.S. Constitution requires of presidents.

Nevertheless, media organizations from all political persuasions are seeking admittance to a news conference to be held by Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz.

The event is tomorrow at 1 p.m. Mountain Standard Time in Phoenix, 3 p.m. Eastern, and will be live-streamed by WND.

The topic of discussion will be an investigation by Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse into concerns about Obama’s eligibility. It’s the first time an official law enforcement report has addressed many of the allegations about the presumptive 2012 Democratic nominee for president.

The issues include Obama’s eligibility under the U.S. Constitution’s requirements, questions about his use of a Connecticut Social Security number and the image of his purported birth certificate from Hawaii.

In addition to the live-streaming, WND will make available to the public, the same day by email, the official report distributed to media by Arpaio’s investigators. Those interested in receiving the report can sign up for the free service.

Top national media organizations have indicated their plans to attend, and bookings for radio and television reports are in the works. Expected are reporters from the Associated Press, Reuters, Univision, the Washington Times and NBC, CBS and ABC affiliates, as well statewide radio networks, among many others.

Because of the circumstances, a decision was made to hold the press conference at the sheriff’s training center on the outskirts of Phoenix, rather than at the downtown office.

The event is expected to draw protesters who object to the sheriff’s office review of allegations that Obama may attempt to use a fraudulent document to have his name placed on the 2012 presidential election ballot in Arizona.

Without releasing any details, Arpaio has said the findings “could be a shock.”

He constituted a special five-member law enforcement posse last year to investigate allegations brought by members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party that the Obama birth certificate released to the public by the White House on April 27 might be a forgery.

The posse is made up of three former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys with law enforcement experience. Members have been examining evidence since September concerning Obama’s eligibility to be president under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, which requires a president to be a natural-born citizen.

Among other issues, there also have been allegations of Obama’s use of a Social Security number that corresponds to a Connecticut address, even though the president apparently had no links there.

WND earlier reported a private investigation found that the Social Security number being used by Obama does not pass a check with E-Verify, the electronic system the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has created to verify whether or not someone is authorized to work legally in the country.

Arpaio’s investigation is the first official law enforcement look at the allegations surrounding Obama’s eligibility. Many of the private investigators who have examined it contend there are too many questionable circumstances to believe that everything regarding Obama is above-board.

Arpaio previously told WND that when he launched his Cold Case Posse it was with the possibility that he would clear Obama.

He said it wasn’t an issue he could ignore, after 250 members of the tea party organization “came to me and asked their sheriff to investigate Obama and the birth certificate.”

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The WND TV live-streaming coverage of the news conference Thursday is possible through the support of the Western Center for Journalism.

The decisions in dozens of court cases over the last few years questioning Obama’s eligibility were typified by a recent decision in Georgia in which several individuals filed challenges to Obama’s name on the 2012 ballot and provided evidence to a hearing officer.

Even though Obama and his lawyer deliberately snubbed the case – the lawyer wrote the judge a letter in advance telling him Obama would not attend – the judge threw out the evidence presented by several attorneys and ruled in favor of Obama.

Similar ballot challenges are being filed in a long list of other states already.

The Arpaio investigators were given the case following a meeting held in the sheriff’s office Aug. 17, 2011, with tea party representatives from Surprise, Ariz., who presented a petition signed by more than 250 Maricopa County residents. The petitioners expressed concern that their voting rights could be irreparably compromised if Obama uses a forged birth certificate to be placed on the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona or otherwise is found to be ineligible.

The tea party letter formally stated the following charge: “The Surprise Tea Party is concerned that no law enforcement agency or other duly constituted government agency has conducted an investigation into the Obama birth certificate to determine if it is in fact an authentic copy of 1961 birth records on file for Barack Obama at the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu, or whether it, or they are forgeries.”

The posse was constituted as a 501(c)3 organization, designed to cost the people of Maricopa County nothing, while enabling people from around the country to contribute to its mission.

Those wishing to send a tax-deductible contribution directly to the Cold Case Posse may do so by mailing a check or money order to: MCSO Cold Case Posse, P.O. Box 74374, Phoenix, AZ 85087.

WND has reported that dozens of experts with varying ranges of competency who have looked at the situation believe the birth documentation image released by Obama last year is not genuine.

A flying-banner and billboard campaign to let people know about the questions regarding eligibility that was started by WND CEO and Editor Joseph Farah also has raised the public’s awareness of the situation.

Farah wrote recently that the underlying question to be determined is whether the U.S. Constitution remains the law of the land, or whether it has become “an archaic old document that needs to be amended.”

“At its core, it’s really quite simple: Does Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution dealing with who can serve as president of the United States simply mean that any citizen age 35 or older is eligible? If so, why did the founders use a different term altogether – ‘natural born citizen’? What is a ‘natural born citizen’? Is it anyone born in the United States? If so, why have candidates born outside the United States been deemed eligible? Do we owe it to America’s future to go back in history to determine what that term actually means?

“Until now, as hard as it may be to believe, no official vetting of Obama’s credentials has been done – not by the 50 secretaries of state who oversee elections, not by the Federal Elections Commission that administers the nation’s elections laws, not by the Electoral College, not by any judge in America, not by Congress, not by anyone,” he continued.

Even before the results become public, Farah said he’s confident there will be a significant impact.

“I strongly believe it could be a game-changer,” he said.

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Re: Obama and his Kenyan and Indonesian Citizenship
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2012, 09:07:05 AM »
Please go to link
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/pravda-asks-what-happened-to-american-media/

Even Russia's media recognizes the failure of the U.S. media.

Pravda asks: What happened to American media?
Accuses U.S. press of 'deliberately hiding evidence' of Obama's 'fraud'

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Obama_press_conference

It’s a twist of irony: The Russian news website Pravda has published an accusation that the American media is “tame,” afraid to publish news and is “deliberately hiding the evidence published on the internet about [President Obama's] defrauding of the American public and the deliberate evisceration of the Constitution of the United States.”

In a March 7 Pravda column, “Arizona sheriff finds Obama presidential qualifications forged,” Dianna Cotter, a senior at American Military University, blasts America’s mainstream media for their virtual silence about Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s six-month investigation into the controversy surrounding Obama’s birth certificate and his constitutional eligibility for office.

NOTE: In case you missed the news conference of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse,” you can view it here.

“A singularly remarkable event has taken place in the United States of America,” Cotter wrote. “This event occurred in Arizona on March 1st and was an earth shattering revelation. … Yet, in the five days since [Arpaio's] revelations there has been little in the way of serious reporting on the findings he presented in his presser. With 6 short videos, the Sheriff and his team presented a devastating case, one the tame US press is apparently unable to report.”

Cotter recalls Obama April 27, 2011, press conference in which he “walked into the White House Press room with a Cheshire cat like grin and a ‘Long Form Birth Certificate’ from the State of Hawaii in hand.”

Speaking from the podium, Obama declared, “We’re not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers.”

“Quite the barb from a man holding a forged document,” Cotter wrote. “That’s right, forged.

She notes that the investigation also uncovered an allegedly forged Selective Service Card for Obama.

“Forged documents are being used to qualify a President of the United States for the office he holds,” she contends. “Or is usurped the more accurate term?

“The silence from the main stream media in the US is deafening. It almost seems as if the press is terrified to even think the question, let alone ask it: Is the President a criminal? The press in Arpaio’s audience were certainly asking him to state precisely that, yet nowhere has the question been asked of the White House by the press. Instead the American Press is aggressively protecting the presumed President of the United States, pushing the fraud upon both America and the world, supporting a man who may well have usurped the office.”

She asks, “What has been the response from the Obama era press?

“Silence.

“Silence so loud it can be felt.”

Cotter lays out detailed evidence of a widespread cover-up and concludes:

    The American Press is deliberately hiding the evidence published on the internet about this defrauding of the American public and the deliberate evisceration of the Constitution of the United States. It is hiding Barack Obama’s Fraud as it has been revealed by a Sheriff in Arizona. The silence of the American press would be unbelievable if it weren’t so blatantly obvious.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/pravda-asks-what-happened-to-american-media/

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Re: Obama and his Kenyan and Indonesian Citizenship
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Re: Obama and his Kenyan and Indonesian Citizenship
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2012, 10:46:17 AM »
Media blackout on Obama eligibility near-total
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/media-blackout-on-eligibility-near-total/

Even though almost half of registered voters tell pollsters they are not convinced Barack Obama’s birth certificate is authentic – and even though the first official U.S. law enforcement investigation into the matter established “probable cause” that the document released with great fanfare by the White House last April is a computer-generated forgery – a virtual media blackout remains in effect on the most controversial story of the Obama presidency.

More at the link

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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2012, 09:21:22 AM »
Ann Barnhardt on Congress on Obama's foreign citizenship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iq0rxziwC_c#!

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Re: Obama and his Kenyan and Indonesian Citizenship
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2012, 07:06:01 AM »
Seems the latest judge when like the rest.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-eligibility-lawsuit-reaches-supreme-court/

Obama Eligibility Lawsuit Reaches Supreme Court
July 18, 2012 By Doug Book 39 Comments
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Of the dozens of lawsuits questioning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to be President of the United States, one has finally reached the docket of the Supreme Court. Should the Court accept the case for review, it will be the first upon which the justices will issue a substantive ruling—one based on the merits.

On February 3rd, Georgia Administrative Court Judge Michael Malihi ruled that Barack Obama is eligible to appear on the Georgia ballot. It was a case during which Malihi received not one scrap of evidence from Obama or his attorney. Subpoenas from plaintiffs were ignored; Obama’s clear burden of proof was NOT imposed. Plaintiff’s motions for contempt were neither acted upon nor forwarded to higher courts; and U.S. Supreme Court precedent took a back seat to the rambling, non-substantive pronouncement of dicta from an Indiana justice.

Yet in his 10 page ruling, Malihi had the monumental gall to claim “This decision is entirely based on the law, as well as the evidence and legal arguments presented at the hearing.” Malihi’s ruling was then rubber stamped through the Georgia Superior Court and eventually denied review by the state’s Supreme Court as both refused to apply basic principles of jurisprudence to the legally indefensible tripe offered by the Administrative Court judge.

But on June 28th, the Petition for Writ of Certiorari in Plaintiffs David Weldon, Carl Swensson and Kevin Richard Powell v Barack Obama was filed with the Supreme Court. These are the plaintiffs whose case had been argued before Judge Malihi by attorneys Van Irion and Mark Hatfield.

It is an important event because all other eligibility cases appealed to the Supreme Court had been dismissed in lower courts exclusively on procedural grounds, the plaintiff’s lack of standing being the most common. Such procedural decisions relieve judges from the potentially career-ending task of issuing an honest and legally supportable ruling dismissing Barack Obama from his job and opening him to charges of fraud. And cases dismissed on procedural grounds are almost NEVER taken up by the Supreme Court.

The Weldon v Obama case will pose 2 vitally important questions to the Court. First of all, “…whether states can be forced to accept any candidate from a political party for presentation on state ballots even when the candidates do not meet the required qualifications.”  Attorneys for Obama have argued that it is up to the particular political party to decide who their presidential nominee will be and that it is not necessary that the party obey state laws that demand the nominee be qualified to hold that office.

And most importantly, the Supreme Court could decide whether the “natural born citizen” definition written by the Supreme Court in the 1875 case of Minor v Happersett will at last be awarded the precedential status ignored by so many cowardly and corrupt judges in response to the matter of Obama’s eligibility.

The American public should know by early fall whether the Supreme Court is willing to rule on the question of Barack Obama’s eligibility for the White House by addressing the constitutional importance and definition of natural born citizen. In short, by its decision to hear or ignore the case, we will know whether the Court truly represents little more than the small but powerful cabal of Washington DC’s political ruling class made so evident by the ObamaCare ruling.