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chat with ali
« on: January 08, 2009, 09:11:25 AM »
Ali wrote:

jesus tought to belive in one god the lord nothing else thats what mosse tought then how can u say that jesus is god

if islam was anit chirst then we would not belive in the second comming of jesus whiich we do and he is going to kill the one eyed king the beast


so get ur facts right when jesus referd as god to ther father as an expresion like who creted me like ( he did not have a father therfore refred as god just belive the truth and u know islam right its is riten in ur bibile that jesus will be on the horse with this perosn and we belive is the thats immam mahdi



prohet muhhamed let some proficeis behind ie my army will destory the rommans which we did
islam tought science ie how the moon reflects light and the earth is sphere and the sun orbits and the earth orbist around its axis looked up

in ur bibile it sed god had a rest in created the world why woud a god need rest he the most powerfull u cannot compare god to a human being like u are


jews and the romans killed ur so called god and muhammed army destro them what does that tell u that jesus wasnt god he was the messenger of god



jesus did not say he was the son of god never did he say that but infact it was added after he died
what paul teeched totoall contradict what jesus tought looked up urslef the bibile the word of god has been changed by human being the quran will never change 1400 years look at the bibile omg

will when

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Re: chat with ali
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2009, 10:49:01 AM »
Ali wrote:

jesus tought to belive in one god the lord nothing else thats what mosse tought then how can u say that jesus is god

1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Jesus declared His divinity. That's why they wanted to stone Him. That's why He was crucified.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him:

John 10:30 I AND [MY] FATHER ARE ONE. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

if islam was anit chirst then we would not belive in the second comming of jesus whiich we do and he is going to kill the one eyed king the beast

It isn't about what you wish were true my friend. It is about what the Word of God says:

1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVETH NOT THE RECORD that GOD GAVE HIS SON.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON shall not see life; but THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

Islam is THE PERFECT OPPOSITE:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm


so get ur facts right when jesus referd as god to ther father as an expresion like who creted me like ( he did not have a father......

This is pure satanic blasphemy. Even you believe Jesus was born of a virgin by the will of God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geGTBo2X3sY&feature=channel_page

..... therfore refred as god just belive the truth and u know islam right its is riten in ur bibile that jesus will be on the horse with this perosn and we belive is the thats immam mahdi

You seem to want to use your misunderstanding of a PROPHETIC VISION in scripture to follow Islam.
The Quran is simply satanic blasphemy. You reject ALL of the New Testament prophets and the WHOLE SUBJECT of the New Testament which is the new covenant that would save you. Instead you will die marinating in your sins:

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

DEATH my friend.

 

prohet muhhamed let some proficeis behind ie my army will destory the rommans which we did
islam tought science ie how the moon reflects light and the earth is sphere and the sun orbits and the earth orbist around its axis looked up

Don't be silly. You're suggesting that the 1600 year record of God to mankind through all of the prophets and legions of witnesses in His Word, would be replaced by the PERFECT AND EXACT OPPOSITE in the 23 year record of recitations of A SINGLE, 6th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife stealing, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, bloody imperialistic conqueror. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

in ur bibile it sed god had a rest in created the world why woud a god need rest....

Where does it say He needed it? Just says He did.

..... he the most powerfull u cannot compare god to a human being like u are

jews and the romans killed ur so called god ....

It was the sinful nature of mankind that killed Jesus. You and I killed Jesus.

...and muhammed army destro them what does that tell u that jesus wasnt god he was the messenger of god


All of the kingdoms of this world were given into satan's hand at Adam's fall.
That's why Islam has always had an interest in controlling satan's kingdoms. You are his people.


jesus did not say he was the son of god.....

Surely even you are not that ignorant:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/jesus.htm

..... never did he say that but infact it was added after he died
what paul teeched totoall contradict....

Why single out Paul? You reject ALL of the prophets for a 6th century false prophet.

.... what jesus tought looked up urslef the bibile the word of god has been changed by human being the quran will never change 1400 years look at the bibile omg

will when

A whopping 71 out of only 114 suras in the Quran are subject to abrogation. Over the short period of 23 years apparently allah was lost in confusion.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0

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Re: chat with ali
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2009, 06:43:26 PM »
ali wrote:

how many time doe the bible get changed by a person look at the old testemnet and new testement u thick idiot if ur religion was so clled true then ansa me did ? who killes ur gods enemies the roamns jesus was a human being like jsut me and u but he had poweres from god so did mosess they alll taought islam not once did the eve say my religion is called judhaims poor old moses never herd the term of judahuims and jesus will he never once sed my religion is called christait but insted in the bibile christanity is refred from then enmies if chirst hence the reason why the called christans as the follwoers of jesus looked it up urslelf they U AND the jews will be cursed becuse u booth say that godhad a begtton son ie uzhar and jesusbut they were the messenger of god they all tought the sumbmisiion of god wihich is called islam in arabic

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Re: chat with ali
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2009, 06:51:16 PM »
ali wrote:

how many time doe the bible get changed by a person look at the old testemnet and new testement u thick idiot if ur religion was so clled true then ansa me did ?

Over 5300 partial or complete manuscripts of God’s Word were penned prior to 300AD, in virtually every language that was known to man, that were read all over the known world.
To suggest it was tampered with would require that scribes from Syria, Babylonia, Galatia, Asia, India, Rome, Egypt, Greece, Carthage, Tarshish and Macedonia - to name a few - all made the same mistake, at the same time, for the same doctrinal purpose.
Preposterous notion.
watch?v

who killes ur gods enemies the roamns jesus was a human being like jsut me and u.....

You are saying you were born of a virgin like Jesus? Conceived of a virgin by the will of God?
He was a man in the flesh. But a PERFECT MAN an example of what we should be. A sinless man.

..... but he had poweres from god so did mosess they alll taought islam not once did the eve say my religion is called judhaims poor old moses never herd the term of judahuims and jesus will he never once sed my religion is called christait but insted in the bibile christanity is refred from then enmies if chirst hence the reason why the called christans as the follwoers of jesus looked it up urslelf they U AND the jews will be cursed becuse u booth say that godhad a begtton son ie uzhar and jesusbut they were the messenger of god they all tought the sumbmisiion of god wihich is called islam in arabic
It is God's Word that says that God has begotten a Son:

Old Testament prophecy:
Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

New Testament:

Jhn 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Jhn 1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].

Jhn 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Act 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

Hbr 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Hbr 5:5  So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

1Jo 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

1Jo 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

1Jo 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.


Mohammedans follow the EXACT OPPOSITE as the Christians and Jews, in the person of a 6th century false prophet.

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Re: chat with ali
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2009, 08:06:19 PM »
ali (49 minutes ago)

u motherfuker we nt anitcrist its like we say u against muhammed do we call u anti mohammed

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You should be able to see through your adolescent language who is in complete control of your life. It is Satan, my friend. The same one that drove Mohammed. In regard to antichrist it isn't about what we say, but about what the Word of God says:

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...

Pretty simple my friend. You and Mohammed are antichrists.
_______________

And of course every Christian should be anti-Mohammed, anti the false prophet, as he was the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ, and his book the EXACT OPPOSITE of God's Word.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

Islam is antichrist. The perfect foe of God's people.

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Re: chat with ali
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 12:03:56 PM »
[[[[that verse u stated was only mentione once in the old tstement and guess what

they added that begoton son after 60 years whe jesus died so tak that ask ur scholers that and then relise it ]]]]

You've been lied to my friend. There are 10 verses that use the term begotten.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=55.0

All we have to do is check the Koine Greek:

him that begat
New Testament Greek Definition:
1080 gennao {ghen-nah'-o}
from a variation of 1085; TDNT - 1:665,114; v
AV - begat 49, be born 39, bear 2, gender 2, bring forth 1,
be delivered 1, misc 3; 97
1) of men who fathered children
1a) to be born
1b) to be begotten
1b1) of women giving birth to children
2) metaph.
2a) to engender, cause to arise, excite
2b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his
way of life, to convert someone
2c) of God making Christ his son
2d) of God making men his sons through faith in Christ's work

Same with this verse:

(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) 1 John 5:7 oti <3754> {BECAUSE} treiV <5140> {THREE} eisin <1526> (5748) {THERE ARE} oi <3588> {WHO} marturounteV <3140> (5723) {BEAR WITNESS} en <1722> tw <3588> {IN} ouranw <3772> {HEAVEN,} o <3588> {THE} pathr <3962> {FATHER,} o <3588> {THE} logoV <3056> {WORD,} kai <2532> {AND} to <3588> {THE} agion <40> {HOLY} pneuma <4151> {GHOST;} kai <2532> {AND} outoi <3778> oi <3588> {THESE} treiV <5140> {THREE} en <1520> {ONE} eisin <1526> (5748) {ARE.}

No mysteries. Simply check the Greek!



KJV 1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

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Re: chat with ali
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2009, 08:59:14 AM »
[[[[i havent been lied to .....]]]

Of course you have. That's why you have chosen the false prophet Mohammed's path and rejected all of the prophets and legions of witnesses of the 1600 year revelation of God to mankind.

It's God that made Mohammed a liar, not me:

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave of his Son.

[[[[....i do my resech i askd this top catholic person.....]]]

Why would you go to the same people that adorn their buildings with images of things that are in heaven?
The pope is even so apostate that one kissed the Quran and another bowed to mecca from inside a mosque.

[[[..... who is know a muslim abudur raheem green jeusus never said i am the begooton son.....]]]

He was never a Christian, or he couldn't be an antichrist Moslem. He is a liar just like Deedat and Mohammed. God made him so. Look at the attached video.

10 verses declare Jesus the begotten Son of God:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=55.0

This is perhaps the most blessed verse in Christianity:

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The original Koine Greek:

only begotten
New Testament Greek Definition:
3439 monogenes {mon-og-en-ace'}
from 3441 and 1096; TDNT - 4:737,606; adj
AV - only begotten 6, only 2, only child 1; 9
1) single of its kind, only
1a) used of only sons or daughters
(viewed in relation to their parents)
1b) used of Christ, denotes the only begotten son of God

You'll never find God if you look for Him through those with a 6th century Bedouin mentality simple-mindedness like Green.

[[[... neve id he say that in his life team he refred god to th father why bceuse he never had one and he is the creator it like saing gods my father....]]]

Why not read the verses for yourself. Here are the references to God His Father:

http://www.islamandthetruth.com/god_the_father.htm

[[[.... but its not only why cus my parents had sex and jesus is mum never had sex but how can a god be insihed his mum for 9 months usrley that even moe rebiluos oen ur heat u people av been.....]]]

But even you believe Jesus was conceived of a virgin by the will of God, unlike any man in the history of the world. Does this mean that God had sex with Mary? Of course not. Nobody believes that.
But rather than recognizing God as Jesus Son, you prefer to believe Jesus to be a bastard, because of your 6th century false prophet and his pea brain.

[[[..... curse i blive in jeuss is the mesneger of god like all the other prohet jesus....]]]]

You are antichrist my friend. You blaspheme Jesus at every turn by denying that He is the Son of God.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/jesus.htm

And by denying the very blood that would save you. That blood is THE WHOLE SUBJECT of the New Testament and new covenant that was given unto the GENTILES, like you and I.

Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?

If you don't repent you will die wallowing in your sins:

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, EVEN DENYING THE LORD THAT BOUGHT THEM, AND BRING UPON THEMSELVES SWIFT DESTRUCTION.

[[[[....... did not say there arent going to be more prohets in fact he said ive got alot of things to tell u but u wanrt be able to hack what ment he had lot of things left....]]]

This is simply more foolish lies from Deedat's playbook. What DOES THE BIBLE SAY about the Spirit of truth and the Comforter?

Let's see (same version deedat used):

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 [Even] THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom THE WORLD cannot receive, because it SEETH HIM NOT, neither knoweth him: but YE KNOW HIM; for he DWELLETH WITH YOU, and SHALL BE IN YOU.

The world "seeth him not" because Mohammed wasn't born yet?
The apostles "knew" Mohammed?
He "dwelleth with" them 500 years before he was born?
Mohamed was IN THEM?

John 14:26 But THE COMFORTER, [which is] THE HOLY GHOST, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Do you see what pathetic liars Deedat and Green are? Mohammed was to be IN the Apostles 500 years before he was born?

[[[..... thats when the last messnger ....]]]

The last messenger was John when he wrote the book of Revelation. Here is where we find Mohammed in the bible:

Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

But Mohammed came as a ravening wolf.
Here is what following your false prophet will do for you my friend:

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

ISLAM IS THE PERFECT OPPOSITE OF GOD AND HIS WORD:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

[[[...of god came and told the people so whos is the begooton son uzahr or jesus surly the can only be one but guess whta its not og how cn u compare god to a human beinf if a person comes to u and does magic are going to bvelive in him as god surley moses shud have been god ? nope like phaoras he fuoght he was god but in the quran it is stated 1400 there body of farun sud be perseved so people who come afer will see what happens to people who proclim god as a human being look it up urslef ]]]

ISLAM THE PERFECT OPPOSITE.

Mohammed the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ. The most violent thing Jesus did was overturn the tables of the moneychangers.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

Muslims the OPPOSITE of Christians with a lust for the kingdoms of the world - satan's kingdoms - Christians are in the kingdom of God, called out of this world:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc

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Re: chat with ali
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2009, 03:25:55 PM »
[[catholice are th real christans.....]]]

Come on ali. The Roman church killed Jews, Muslims AND CHRISTIANS. Don't you know anything about the Crusades or the inquisitions?
http://www.biblebelievers.com/foxes/fox105.htm

[[[.... were as u were create by a king protastent and how can u say that the pope like muhammed u fink u know it all]]]

It's obvious the pope is apostate. Here is what our bible says:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Here is what the satanic book that he kissed says:

Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

[[[....ok if i kill rape ur mom do mic\shief and then i say i belive in jesus then i can crry on killing why? becues u say jeus promised every one salvation which he did to the good people of his wos not the the people that commite sin every time my dear brtother islam doesnt promise u salavation why becuse god jughes people who there not who they follow....]]]

Salvation only comes through REPENTANCE or changing our direction:
1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such WERE some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

[[[...god will never die it is wrriten in ur bibile then why do u say that jesus the messeger of god died on the cross as u proclaim that a god cam unto the earth in the form as humn being .......]]]

But even you believe Jesus was born of a virgin by the will of God. That He was a perfect example to all of mankind when He was manifest in the flesh.

We can only know God by the way He revealed Himself to us. Like through His Spirit. Even you believe God has a Spirit. He manifest Himself through Jesus as the perfect example for all of mankind. Then he became the perfect martyr to die for the propitiation of sin for all mankind.

Have you ever heard that when a Muslim martyr blows himself up in a bus load of Jewish school children that he is a martyr? That the first drop of his blood provides propitiation for 70 of his nearest and dearest friends and relatives?

[[[......thats what the paggan followed dont give me u bull shit of the verse becuse jesus didnt rite the bibile when he died its was people who crupted the word of god well what do u mean 23 book vs 1600 book then im sure its a mircle who can an illetrate man do this why woud he want to this 4]]]

Though Mohammed was illiterate that doesn't mean he didn't surround himself with a few people who were literate. Like a defrocked Roman Catholic priest that was likely responsible for introducing the Roman Catholic heresy of Mary worship into the Quran.

[[[[for the sake of god my dear brother ask the free masosn and the anti chirst who the fearing islam ?]]]

We only have God's definition of antichrist to go on:

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...

What did God make Mohammed?
1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave of his Son.

[[[ why cuz what promised to us we woud defeat the bad army jesus will come bck on the earth so woud immn mahdi

not once did jesus say they will never and prophetes after john look it up i dont want u to quote if it wasnt for jesus .....]]]

You don't seem to realize that what you believe comes from what Mohammed deluded you into believing that God said. But since it is the EXACT OPPOSITE of that given to us by God, who do you think Mohammed was working for?

[[[.....so called resseruction then it woud have not be a religion it is even sted jhon > ?>>.....]]]

The reason the bible has so many prophets and legions of witnesses is precisely because we are not to trust the words of one man:

Mat 18:16... that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

That's why there were 12 Apostles to witness Jesus life, crucifixion and resurrection, along with hundreds, perhaps thousands, of witnesses.
Then 5 centuries Mohammed denies all of those witnesses. Do you see how odd that is? That Mohammed created a religion that is the EXACT OPPOSITE of Christianity? Denying the Son. Denying His blood that would save you.

[[[... said this if sumone comes to u after the dead in flsh and touches and sees u alive then thats means he did not die butinfact god rose him he was true prohet not a god an not a sun

[[[are u telling me that when a baby is in the mum womb that his born wid sin for what hes forfather....]]]

No because of Adam's fall. But until a person can understand the truth they are innocent. Where there is no law there is no transgression:

Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, [there is] no transgression.

If somebody is too young, or too retarded or something like that, they are not guilty of transgression. But those like you, my friend that understand, but reject the 1600 year record of God to mankind for the 23 year record of A SINGLE FALSE PROPHET, it is a very different matter:

Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?

If we hadn't met (or someone like me) you may have been innocent. But now you won't be able to plead ignorance when you stand before your creator and judge:

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

[[[.... has nope every one has to pay for there own deeds good or bad it is even mentioned in ur bibile no one can take ur deed unless ur follow the true way plz dnt give me this bull shit or else u wuld be curse like the jews and u why ascrbing god whits partners]]]

No partners.
Mark 12:29 ... The Lord our God is one Lord: ... 32 ... for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.

[[[....lokk at what jesus tought ....]]]

Here it is my friend:

Mat 26:28 For this is MY BLOOD of the new testament, which is SHED FOR MANY for the remission of sins.

Reject His blood and you will die wallowing in your sins.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Death or life. God gave you free will to choose.

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM

[[[[...and what paul and then tell me if trhey are 2 seprerat and as for muhammed wereing the wolf he wasnt get ur facts right ha hats hersay may friend ]]]]]

It isn't about Paul. You reject ALL the prophets for A SINGLE 6th century Bedouin mentality illiterate that was and taught THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2009, 06:21:59 PM »
we did no reject alll the prohets are u mad what they tought was islam the submiissin to gods will that it read thequran it goes the wre about 124.000 prohetes tht god sent to the world read the quran if god is the son why not adan onli cuz he sined if god wanted he woud not have sinned people have there own will why becuse they will pay for there own deeds



are u telling me god was a human the holly spirt we say is gabierl


but doesnt mean we say he god like u people do are been cursed or sumthing calling god a human being did jesu ever say in the bibile i m the god ifhe did then let me say this agian god has no beggin or end ?


ur religion is great but when u say god came to the world to save people whats the point of that when he sent down his prohets get done ha it lok like u well literlited but surle u have doubts of ur religion why cuz god will never hummilated him slf on the cross wha 4 the people who he created if jesus wanted to he coud have a mircle by praing to god and his friend well what we say was a soldier died for him on the cross and god put an image like him if u blive in jesus miracles and the power of god why cant u ber this becues it hurts u people to know that he was only human being fair enoouf he had a mricalosu birth and he never died and god rose his sole im sure as chrsiatans u shud belive this saying god died and then saying god save him which one god plz dnt 2 people can be god ur a plotheysim and dont say islam thats what the quran teaches god has challenged the mainkind to make a book betere then it

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2009, 06:23:32 PM »
[[[[[[we did no reject alll the prohets....]]]]

Which New Testament prophets do you accept?

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2009, 06:28:01 PM »
[[[[[[[are u telling me god was a human the holly spirt we say is gabierl ]]]

That's silly. The Spirit of God is the Holy Ghost. Same Spirit.

The Quran says: Sura 32.9: But He fashioned him in due proportion, and BREATHED INTO HIM SOMETHING OF HIS SPIRIT. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding):..

So does God have a Spirit or is Mohammed a liar?

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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2009, 01:31:00 PM »
[[[ we did no reject alll the prohets are u mad ....]]]

Let's start with John, Jesus' favorite apostle.
The attached video will help.
Do you accept John the apostle and prophet, or do you reject him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc

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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2009, 01:32:25 PM »
[[[paul he never meet jesus in his life and was a dicplie if paul did not meet jesus aftr his resurcition then it woud not have been a religion due to the fact he said all these things thats jesus never said and you know thats the truth look it up 4 urself ]]]

Why would you single out one apostle? You must necessarily reject ALL of the prophets, disciples, and apostles that walked and talked with Jesus and the WHOLE SUBJECT of the record they gave us which is the new covenant.

You must reject the bible because Mohammed and his book are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of the way God revealed Himself to mankind:
http://www.israelinbibleprophecy.com/islam_perfectly_opposite.htm

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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2009, 10:21:36 AM »
[[[where was all of jesus of dicple, they all betrayed him and let him die well thats what u think but if u belive in jesus coming bck to earth then he surly cannot have died but god rose him and made people belive that he died

if jesus was s so called god then he woud have know that judas the traiotr woud have decived him which he didnt untill when he relised that he tarited for some money god know all things and is the wise thefore he coud jesus coud not have been god.....]]]

You pitifully misunderstand.
Jesus even made the deal happen:

John 13:25 He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it? 26 Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped [it]. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave [it] to Judas Iscariot, [the son] of Simon. 27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

It was after Jesus did this and satan entered Judas that he went off to do his deal.

28 Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him. 29 For some [of them] thought, because Judas had the bag, that Jesus had said unto him, Buy [those things] that we have need of against the feast; or, that he should give something to the poor.

Read the passage in context here:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

[[[..... but insted he was the messenger of god look in the quran ....]]]

The Quran is Mohammed's satanic delusion. The PERFECT OPPOSITE of God's Word.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

[[[[....it is sted about 124,000 messenger of god came we do not reject them we actually belive in them but do u know who bulit the kaba abraham and ismail why it was god command go bck to histroy and ull find out they paried to god to ask for the a ture prohet in the family who tought wsidom and muhammed comes from the descedend abraham....]]]

Mohammed comes from Abraham's ILLIGETIMATE BASTARD SON ISHMAEL that Abraham made WITH HIS SERVANT Hagar.

Gen 16:3 And Sarai Abram's wife took HAGAR HER MAID the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. 4 And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes.

Now read closely:

Genesis 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou [art] with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. 12 And he will be a wild man; his hand [will be] against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

And so it still is with Hagar's offspring today. Over 12,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[[[..... was from iraq and travelled to araiba and he was going to scarifcise hes son but insted god gave him a got from hevens to scarifce not his son that how true he was in faith and this day was a day to rember and it is called eid ull adah and it was abrahm WHO told people to come to pilgrimage and ha dont quote me from the book u know that im right a man that never meet jesus beore and says all thses things that jesus sed which opposiet]]]

You are living in Mohammed's delusional fairyland. Heading for Satan's "fairyland" of hell.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc3vcr_MQYM